Limbus Company - Garden of Thorns vs Sign of Roses (Corresponding Fight) 

Sign of Roses is an Abnormality that, at first view, takes the form of a mass of white flesh covered in red eyes, bound to a wooden X cross (described as a "sign") by brambles from which roses blossom. However, it's implied by its boss fight that the flesh and cross are actually vital organs of the Abnormality, with the actual Abnormality being the entire rose garden. During its fight, it shows the ability to bloom flowers that absorb the "Sins" of people, before eventually killing them. There's a lot of debate about whether Sign of Roses is an Aberration of another Abnormality or not, with notable contenders being One Sin and a Hundred of Good Deeds, WhiteNight, and Flesh Idol. I don't think that this Abnormality is an Aberration. Project Moon tends to make Aberration extremely obvious both in appearance and name (Snow White's Apple/Ebony Queen's Apple, Funeral of The Dead Butterflies/Funeral of a Dying Butterfly etc...). The mere fact we argue about the status of Sign of Roses proves that it isn't one. The Abnormality obviously refers to the crucifixion of Jesus. It's tied to a cross just like Jesus was crucified, one of its E.G.O gifts is crown thorns, and church music play during its boss fight, Sins are a major theme of the Abnormality, and it could also be a reference to the "Miracle of the Roses", a miracle in Catholicism where roses suddenly blossom in reaction to divine activity. However, the Abnormality also inverts themes and imagery of Christianity; instead of asking others to overcome their Sins, it urges them to "let them blossom". I think I'm gonna use this occasion to talk a bit about what Sins are in this game. First thing first: Sins aren't bad. The most important thing to do is to throw out the idea that Sins are corruptions of humans to truly understand what the game means. Sins are the manifestations of human motivation and emotions. Did you notice that the colors of Sins are the colors of a rainbow ? And what is a rainbow ? It's an optical phenomenon where the white light of the sun (the mere mention of the sun opens a whole other can of worm) is refracted into its spectrum. In the world of Project Moon, the "Light" is essentially the light of human consciousness, from which all potential comes from. "Sins" is the Light refracted into its component ie: emotions. Sign of Roses, from a meta point of view, is also quite likely to be allegorical to E.G.O, Distortion, Lobotomy Corporation, the Seed of Light Project, and Carmen herself. The whole point of the Seed of Light Project was to seed the hearts of humans and let them grow their potential. People develop E.G.O once they confront and accept their Sins, while they Distort when they can't do so and succumb to them. On top of that, Lobotomy Corporation, for many reasons, was choke-full of flora symbolism and metaphors. But obviously, Carmen is the one to take the cake. Carmen's life can be cut into three parts: Human, where she was working on the Seed of Light Project, Bucket, following the bloodbath incident and Ayin extracting her brain stem to create Bucket and produce Cogito, and Voice, following the fall of L Corp and the White Nights, where she become one with Light and start to turn people into E.G.Oist and Distortions. Sign of Roses mainly dwells on Carmen's life as Bucket and Voice. Its flesh, being white and covered in red eyes, refers to Carmen's bleached white skin and red eyes. Destroying the flesh do not directly kill the Abnormality, just like Carmen's death was not her end. It being crucified just like Jesus symbolizes how Carmen was treated like a saint by everyone who came to know her, and her being sacrificed and becoming a martyr in the name of the Seed of Light Project. Even the appearance of her brain stem in the Bucket resembles a cross. The fact it's seemingly stuck to the cross may also represent how she was unable to go outside the Bucket, with the actual Abnormality being the rose garden referencing her state as a disembodied, omnipotent entity after the White Nights. The flesh being covered in eyes symbolizes how, even in the Bucket, she could sense her surroundings, as well as her being connected to the River of Humanity in this state, thus being able to peer into the collective psyche of humans. It also represents how, as the Voice, she's able to see everything happening in the City, gaze into the hearts of everyone, and even peer into other dimensions. Sign of Roses urging people to accept their Sins is pretty much Carmen's own philosophy at all stages of her life; that people should fully accept themselves, no matter the form their emotions take. Finally, the symbolism of roses. In Limbus Company, the main resource of gather is "Lunacy", described to be a crystal whose shape reminds of a rose, but its icon also resembles a brain. It's also described as "humanlike", and "to absorb the moisture from a certain river to bloom". Not only that, but the description also says to "move forward", humans need to "embrace the madness". All of this, from the brain-shape of Lunacy, to indirectly referencing the River of Humanity and Carmen's philosophy, gives it obvious links to her, and thus strengthening the parallels between Carmen and Sign of Roses. El Director really cooked with this Abnormality. I'm not gonna dwell a lot on the resistance and weakness of this Abnormality, or even the Sins in use in battle. It's all damage type weak to no Sins because it represents the entirety of humans' emotional spectrum. It uses all Sins evenly for the same reasons. Gregor's use of its E.G.O, Garden of Thorns, represents how deep inside, he wants to be able to freely give in to his emotions, but cannot due to fearing that his arms will go haywire if he does so. The E.G.O is also affiliated to all Sins, but has more inclination to Lust because it's his earnest wish. Him doing an impression of Jesus also creates parallels with the Christian prophet. Jesus was a Jewish man who willfully sacrificed himself to offer redemption to humans. Gregor, however, was an (implied to be ethnically Jewish) man forced to become a martyr and symbol of G Corp's armies as propaganda, before fleeing the war himself and now being drowned in guilt. Here, the sacrifice of Jesus is inverted, just like how Sign of Roses inverted Christian themes.

Still obsessed with Gregor’s corrosion line, the voice delivery of it is so good

the analysis of this one has to be very interesting

Nihil seems to have burned out for reasons unknown. Their last post being 3 days ago. So, as a substitute I shall post my analysis on the abnormality Sign of Roses. The abnormality takes form as a flesh with red eyes held to a cross by brambles. Which the MD event describe as, a signboard. The flesh is likely based on the X shaped cross Saint Andrew was crucified on, the signpost is also implied to be the 'tree'. While the brambles and rose represent pain and sin respeCtively. Sign of roses embodies the idea of embracing sin and coupled with its Christ like imagery makes it an aberration of One Sin. Anyways did you know that Andrew was the first follower of Christ? The sign and flesh are normal to all sin types but ineffective to all physical damage types likely to reinforce the 'embracing sin' idea. It possesses all seven affinities in its attacks. The flesh becoming more offensive and wrathful when there's less roses and returns to gloominess when the roses are regrown. The roses are weak to their respective sins because you're embracing your sin but take too long to embrace them and they embrace you instead, becoming another rose in the garden. Gregor resonance with it seems to be based on his want to move on from the 'garden' but he is so caught deep in the brambles that he accepts it, causing his identity to form with the 'brambles' which is shown in his corrosion. While the awakening is his rebellion, him lusting to escape and to gift his enemies with 'brambles'. Feel free to post your thoughts and feelings.

Nihil Nihil. more Abnormalities lore please :)

how gregor heal sp and hp at the start of the combat always?