Jean Hagen was brilliant throughout the movie. The way she portrayed Lina Lamont, she stole every scene she appeared in, imho ... Jean was a talented, talented lady.
Agree,she should have won the supporting actress Oscar that year.she was nominated but lost to Gloria Grahame and not sure why Grahame was nominated,never mind won for"Bad and the Beautiful"
The only losses that were worse were Grace Kelly over Judy Garland. Or Anna Magnani over Susan Hayward in I'll Cry Tomorrow. Kim Basinger over Gloria Stuart. Or the biggest surprise was Loretta Young over Rosalind Russell. Just saying
Am i the only one who REALLY wanted Donald O'Connor to keep singing when he starts? :D brilliant movies, brilliant scenes, brilliant actors.. Brilliant times :)
I don't even know why the conductor is asking, it's as if they are prepared to play any song and in any key she tells them, that's not how orchestras work :D
Jean Hagen is never given the attention she deserves. She is superb as Lina Lamont. Love when she screeches "Do ya think I'm stupid or something". At this everyone stares down at their shoes.
She actually dubs some of Debbie Reynolds talking bits in the movie (the parts where Debbie's character was overdubbing Jean Hagen's character, Lina's talking voice) because the director apparently couldn't stand Debbie's "midwestern twang". Source: look up the channel Lost Voices and there's a video called "Secrets of Hollywood voices" or something along that line. It's 1hr27mins long but it's worth the watch.
Actually, it was Betty Noyes who sang. Not Jean Hagen. She sang in "Would You" and "You Are My Lucky Star". But Jean Hagen's real speaking voice was used in the scenes where Debbie's character is dubbing for Jean's character, Lina Lamont.
@@craigrussell9894 Whatever that meant.... www.radiotimes.com/movies/2016-12-25/is-the-rain-milk-is-that-debbie-reynolds-voice-gene-kellys-widow-busts-the-myths-about-singin-in-the-rain/
Well Lina, in a way, was a victim. A product of the silent film Era. She knew that her career would be over if talking pictures became popular. When change comes; you either fight it, move with it or fade into the past. Lina chose to fight and therefore (in this era) she must be revealed and punished
The part where the guys pull the rope like they’re the happiest people in the world…SO FUNNY!!! I love that all three were just fed up with Lina and we’re enjoying every minute they had to destroy her 😂😂😂 This scene is hilarious and so chaotic!!
Donald O'Connor, brilliant as usual. He always brought the 34th flavor to anything he did. Love how all three collaborated in this scene. Donald should have kept singing 😅!
Whenever Mrs. Kuvasz thanks me for just about anything I respond with ...... "If I bring a little joy into your humdrum life, it makes me feel as though my hard work ain't been in vain for nothin'.
Jo Ann Greer was the real voice behind many actresses in big movie musicals. RU-vid Rita Hayworth singing Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered or My Funny Valentine. That's Jo Ann Greer. She also was the voice for June Allyson, Kim Novak, Esther Williams and more. Not detracting from these ladies acting abilities but the singing credit belongs to Jo Ann Greer.
At my theatre group our recent shows have been: peter pan, high school musical, chess, godspell, gypsy and singin in the rain! Hsm and peter p were what the younger kids did lol
Yes, but the way Jean Hagan said it with that awful voice was priceless...if she'd said, "E" it wouldn't have been half as funny. Some scenes require artistic license. It was also Hagan's last line in the film, so it had to be memorable. "E" wouldn't have cut it, and changing the key to an A-flat would have ruined the song, so...it's what we do in movies.
Not true. This is Debbie Reynolds voice. Jean Hagen DID dub Kathy's spoken line ('nothing can keep us apart, etc.') when Kathy is supposedly dubbing Lena's dialogue and the song 'Would You' when Kathy is singing for Lena was actually sung by Betty Noyles. The rest of the film Debbie did her own singing, but for the Dancing Cavalier section they wanted her to sound more mature.
I LOVE THIS SCENE WHEN EVERYONE FINE OUT THAT KATHIE DOING THE VOICE OF LINA . I ALWAYS WANT TO BE LIKE KATHIE SHE IS SO NICE AND KIND AND LINA IS A LITTLE BIT EVIL
I don't understand why they were so mean to her ALL THE TIME. She wasn't the brightest candle and she liked Don more than he liked him but still... she was alright. And Jean hagen portrayed her beautifully.
To me she was never "alright". The character was meant to not just be dumb, but also shallow and petty. Recall that when Don first introduces himself to her the flashback, she won't even speak to him until sees that R.F. the studio head likes him. Then there was her getting Cathy fired because of the ill-timed cake throw, and virtually blackmailing RF to destroy Cathy's career. Yes, a beautiful portrayal, but I don't regard the character as sympathetic.
He's not mean to her. She treats him like shit until he gets signed as a star and she doesn't care about him as a human being at all. He's polite to her even though she doesn't listen to him and disregards his boundaries, only being more forceful when she deliberate provokes him and does shitty things to people he cares about. She's dictatorial and unpleasant to everyone around her, she uses people, and she looks down on anyone she sees as beneath her, which is everyone. She's a great character, but she's not in any way meant to be a good person.
2:03 I read that it was actually Jean Hagan doing the actual singing right there. You can notice Debbie behind the curtain "mouthing" the lines, quite obviously pretending to be (to you, the viewer, that is) to be the one singing.
No, this is Debbie Reynolds voice. They are both mouthing to playback, because that's how they do full musical numbers in movies, but it's Reynolds' voice. Jean Hagen DID dub Kathy's spoken line ('nothing can keep us apart, etc.') when Kathy is supposedly dubbing Lena's dialogue and the song 'Would You' was actually sung by Betty Noyles. The rest of the film Debbie did her own singing, but for that song they wanted a more mature voice.
I wonder what happened after this scene. The reason the studio executive went along with Lina's selfishness (despite him pretty much hating her by this point) was because she had a strong lawsuit against him (not sure what the law was like in this universe, but her lawyer confirmed that she had a very strong lawsuit if the executive guy's action messed up her reputation). Lina didnt' really care too much about money, as she had enough money and was primarily interested in the glory and the spotlight, but the executive guy cared greatly about his money. And now with her reputation in tatters, Lina would have sued the studio (and the executive).
I think what saved the studio was that Lina had already outed herself when she went onstage to give her speech. That's why Don let her go..."it's Lina's big night and she's entitled to do the TALKING." He knew the instant she opened her mouth the critics and media in the audience would wonder why her voice was so different. Merely doing another dubbed song wouldn't save her from the inevitable rumors and speculation. If she sued, they could argue in court that NOT pulling back the curtain would merely have delayed the inevitable, and trying to keep it secret would result in more negative publicity and subsequent career damage when it finally got out.
@@Regfife "Delaying the inevitable" is not a defense, esp when the person who actually pulled the curtain was the executive (or whoever, and she would have strong suit against them). That's like saying, "a terminally ill patient was inevitably going to die, so I killed him" -- not a good defense.
The basis of her lawsuit was that she controls her own publicity, not the studio, and if the studio put out press releases she considered damaging, she could sue. They had a publicity campaign planned to celebrate Kathy as Lena's voice, which is what she was able to stop because that counts as her personal publicity. It doesn't mean anything that happens to make her looks silly gives her grounds. This whole thing isn't a press statement and Lena really does it to herself. She probably wouldn't have grounds to sue, and even if she did, it's not worth it to her. Like you said, the character wanted the glory and to keep her image, not money. Suing was a threat to get what she wanted. Now it doesn't matter because her image is already ruined.
Singin in The Rain Is One Of My Favorite Old Movie Musicals So Is Cover Girl And Gypsy Bye Bye Birdie AnnieAnnie Get Your Gun The Sound Of Music Mary Poppins Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Oliver West Side Story Anything Goes The King And I White Christmas Holiday Inn Top Hat Dancing Lady Follow The Fleet Flying Down To Rio The Barkley Of Broadway Shall We Dance Words And Music The Wizard Of Oz My Fair Lady The Music Man You Were Never Lovelier You'll Never Get Rich Guys And Dolls Brigadoon Good News Anchor Aweigh Take Me Out To The Ball Game Pal Joey A Funny Thing Happen On The Way To Forum Summer Stock The Pirate Gigi American Paris Three Little Words The Band Wagon Easter Parade Oklahoma Call Me Madam Theres No Business Like Show Business Gentlemen Prefer Blondes Hello Dolly Showboat Carousel South Pasific Cabaret Zeigfeld Follies Yankee Doodle Dandy Lets Dance Kiss Me Kate The Flower Drum Song The Phantom Of The Opera
I was very sad when Debbie Reynolds passed away in 2016. I was surprised and shocked when Kathy told Don (played by Gene Kelly) that she never wants to see him again when she was being told to dub Lina's voice by singing "Singin' in the Rain" behind the curtain. It really shattered Don's heart and my heart when she was saying that at him.
It's a risk he took. He came with the idea. There was no time to signal to Kathy that this was a plan to expose Lina. He may have a split second of doubt that his plan is going to work, but by the time they start pulling the curtain, he knows it will be all right in the end, as long as he acts fast. I don't think there was any time at all for heartbreak. It all happens so quickly.
In 1952 America was 89% white so that's where all the talent and resourceful creativity was coming from. Today America is 40% third world people so it will be some time until white people can makes movies like this again.
