Lincoln Riley and USC is a ‘BAD MARRIAGE’ - Paul Finebaum HITS OUT! | The Matt Barrie Show 

Agreed

He's a Sun Belt or Conference USA coach. That's the way they play football. In the Big Ten, you'd better be able to coach a pro-style offense with a base 4-3 or 3-4 defense. He's coaching in an NFL conference now, not the weak Pac-12 with its 150lb LBs and wacky 72-69 final scores.

Perhaps you're correct. I mean some of us in life aren't meant to be the head person....just meant to be a supporter and thrive in that role

He’s not he just like kliff kingsbury great of bad HC. He won with bob stoops players in a bad conference

Won a lot of Big 12 titles as HC of Oklahoma

It’s been Oregon and Stanford right?

Well sanctions set the program back & hiring lousy offensive minded HC they need to go back to tradition it’s the only way to get back to national prominence

@@uchihadabba699 Oregon, Utah and Washington all had more success in the last 15 year span than SC

@@uchihadabba699 In the past 15 years, USC has won fewer conference championships (1) than Stanford (3). Oregon has won seven during the same period.

I was about to type same thing, USC hasn't dominated anyone.

Fact!!! Plus I'm not a doctor but I know when I'm sick

Anyone with a brain saw that coming at USC.

All the best sports analysts work in Vegas and went to MIT. The people who say you have to have played the game are low IQ idiots.

He said the same thing about harbuagh how that turn out

A broken clock is right twice a day.

He’s not calling the Big 10 a juggernaut. It’s just a different type of conference that recruits a different style of player. It’s going to take time for some teams to recruit and build depth for that style of football. Particularly in the trenches. Oregon seems to already be there but the other pac12 teams are not.

Historically over the life cycle of the Pac12 Conference, USC was by far the most successful program.

They didn’t dominate recently. I think 2017 is their only Pac 12 Championship since 2008. That said, historically, USC was by far the most dominant program in the conference (especially in the “Pac 10” era). Even when they had ups and downs, they won the conference at some point in every decade. This might be their first decade (2020s) w/o a conference championship in a very long time

this is just easily, verifiably wrong. USC went from 4-8 before Riley to 11-3 with him. Two of those 3 losses were with an injured QB. But count it however you want. They got better after he arrived. The last 2 years have been a disappointment but they still haven't gone 4-8 since he arrived. Has he had more talent than they did in year 21-22? Probably but that's part of his job right? Think they get Caleb without him?

​@@sportbikejesushe's mediocre at USC Just face it, and his record speaks for itself. 12-11 in last 23 games. Losing to teams he has no business to. Tulane Minnesota Maryland.

@@sportbikejesus 9 blown two score leads to inferior teams and his salary is more than Nick Saban got paid as Alabama's head coach.

The jury is still out on Ryan Day, as it is with Sark and Kiffin. Jimbo is/was a fraud before getting fired by ATM. However, Jimbo was elite 10 years ago and a hot commodity in the coaching circles. There are very few elite coaches at any one time, and he was one. Not so much now.

@@sportbikejesus The TREND is downhill. He had a really good first year at Oklahoma, too, and then afterwards the downward slide began. That's his pattern. He has a great first year and then everything starts going to pot.

Riley’s salary isn’t published. So u don’t know the buyout.

88 million lol

Yep we are stuck with this loser

Heartbreaking for us in the Trojan Family. 😢

The guy don’t want to recruit SoCal kids for some odd reason and he don’t want to recruit at all. He keeps relying on the transfer portal.

Enough of this Clay Helton comparison. Clay inherted good talented players. Lincoln inherited Clay Helton's weak team. During Helton's tenture, we were unable to get commitments, because players knew that they were not going to coached up for the next level; players were very vocal on the topic. SC's problem started years before Lincoln and a lot of the blame is on Pat Haden. Of course, no one at SC is going to say anything negative about Pat because he's SC's golden boy. Firing coaches during the season was the worst thing to do, not fighting for Regie Bush and hring Clay Helton were equally reprehensible. I seen it all from McKay to Lincoln. And, stop acting like SC cannot compete within the BIG10. Why is it that we played the Alabama's and Oklahoma's and won, and come New Year's day, we defeated the BIG10. The is that we had players. When Lincoln came in, he said it was going to take about 5 years. We got spoiled with the Lincoln's success his first year. Now reality has settled in. I'm as frustrarted as anyone. I've stopped watching the games because we are making dumb moves. If you think hiring a new HC is correct, you are missguided, and probably think your microwave is too slow.

“Done” or “down”?

Regardless of what school or conference you are a fan of the collapse of the PAC-12 largely falls on the head of former conference commissioner Larry Scott. During his Tenure (09-21), Scott drove it into the ground through terrible TV deals and other failures, leaving the marquee Universities with no choice but to abandon ship.

@@socalsugar I agree. Larry Scott fucked the Pac-12.

Riley, do Trojan Nation a favor, step down as coach ASAP …..bring along that UCLA reject Lynn …..

They are laughing all the way to the B1G Bank.

I agree. I'm not a PAC 8, PAC-10, or PAC-12 guy, but I have always hated USC. USC and UCLA's blatant money-grubbing greed, arrogance, and self-entitled hubris (with assists from Oregon and Washington) proved they were "BAD neighbors;" they DESTROYED a once-great conference (that also happened to make perfect sense time-zone wise and geographically speaking). And I DO NOT GIVE the EQUALLY GREEDY, SELFISH, and DIRTY BIG-10 and SEC "passes" either. It's absolutely insane and ASININE for the BIG-10 to be a coast-to-coast megaconference (and in the same process thereby force the ACC to become a coast-to-coast bloated conference too (because Stanford and Cal -- in search of a peer "upper tier" athletic and academic conference that they USED TO HAVE in the PAC-12 -- were forced to join the ACC rather than be relegated to the Mountain West of some other second-tier conference (no disrespect intended). In fact, it's ALL attributed to selfishness and greed to "keep up with the Joneses" in the race to inhale the most money at the BIG MONEY TV Deal trough. There is a virtual "arms race" between two megaconferences, the SEC and the Big 10. The SEC expanded on steroids (gobbling up some of the best legacy teams from the old SWC, Big 8, Big XII, etc.) and STILL may have its eyes on poaching several MORE teams from the ACC !!! The Big-10 previously poached Maryland (a charter founding member of the ACC) and Rutgers (Big East) in a greedy desire to expand from the Midwest to the Atlantic Ocean and the NYC TV market ... plus it poached Nebraska from the Big XII. All this occurred after having previously poached Penn State dedcades ago from the rolls of independent schools (which resulted in Penn State no longer able to maintain the great ANNUAL RIVALTY games every season against Pitt and West Virginia, And now the BIG-10 has poached 4 of the "best" West Coast football schools ... with the possibility of adding more eventually. In the process, the traditional Rose Bowl Game pitting the PAC-12 Champion and BIG-10 Champion (except for football playoff years) has been destroyed too. All for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ And, sadly, USC (back to the beginning) doesn't care ... because they arguably haven't had to "pay the price" for breaking up their former conference. They will make more $$$$$$$ by being an embarrassing non-championship member of the BIG-10 than by being a "big dog" of the PAC-12. MONEY is all they really care about -- certainly NOT the student athletes that will have to interrupt their classes and studies to travel coast-to-coast and across multiple time zones far more often ... and most certainly they do NOT care about the fans.

ol riley lower the program then dip out.

Mizzou actually won the SEC East in year 2 and 3 in the league, but not a lot since. They did have a great year last year.

I can't stand matt Barrie, he's a quack.

You are wrong. Compete means win games. When the clock read 00.00 who won can be the only measure. Face facts and fire Lincoln Riley.

@@hwillis7570 YOU ARE WRONG!!! That's NOT WHAT THAT MEANS ...You can be competitive and not win. That's why they have phrases like "it was a COMPETITIVE GAME" ALL 4 LOSSES IN FINAL POSSESSION....COME ON NOW They have been very competitive and better than every team they have lost to in the big 10, including #3 Penn State This all falls on LINCOLN RILEY AND POOR COACHING

Very tough question.

USC isn't getting blown out, but its lack of physicality and ability to tackle is a reflection of a head coach who operates like a coordinator. The QB and WRs might be able to get their work in without hitting and tackling in practices, but it sure hurts the readiness for the rest of the team. This has been an issue with Riley's teams for a while now. An ideological failing hits differently from missing on a few recruits or a bad QB from the transfer portal. I tend to believe that Oklahoma can bring in linemen. They just have a lousy one this year. We've seen Oklahoma bring in linemen before. They have had four drafted in the last two years. It makes sense it can be corrected. It isn't always quick on the OL, but still. FSU doesn't have a QB. They misevaluated DJ, and clearly the FR and RS FR aren't ready (and might not ever be). They'll try again when the portal opens after the season.

good question

Florida state

Right now FSU, then OU but they fired their OC so maybe they’ll improve. USC needs O line size and depth especially at OT. And needs twice as much talent at D line. USC can score 17-24 pts but give up 21-28 pts so - hard to tell nowadays if NIL $ is also problematic

Is defenses are always terrible

He also had to cheat

USC record vs Big10 is a dominant. This is a Lincoln Riley

Get a new line. And we know you prefer soy milk....or is it Bud Light?!

Please

Based on what, 1 game? You forget that TX BEAT UP Bama last year in Tuscaloosa and GA in their last matchup, Fiesta Bowl.

Texas went into Tuscaloosa and punked Saban just last yr. Btw dnt talk to soon they still have a high probability of making the SEC Champ game

@@knothyselfknotruth You're right. I just wanted to brag since nobody picked the Dogs to win the game. LOL

He is quite thin-skinned and stubborn, which is a bad combo for someone who needs to evolve to succeed. Dont think he has that in him.

4 big 12 championships. 2 playoffs, 2 Heisman trophy winners while at OU. That's a resume. They didn't pay him 110 M for no resume.

Pass

He better not take one step into Oklahoma.

It doesn't make sense for him to return to OU where hes absolutely hated for a demotion to OC. If he does get fired from USC in the next 1-2 years you'll see him taking a OC job in the NFL.

nooo

USC has a dominant record over BIG10. BIG10 would have to win 40 straight games to break even with USC lol pipe down bud. This USC ur talking about. We have a Lincoln Riley problem not BIG10 problem

Nope...just like cheating girlfriends...you fk her you keep her. He's USC's to take care of now...

Playing a team in a bowl is totally different. You have a month of planning , get to rest up etc. Playing physical big ten defenses week after week takes its toll. If Wisconsin didn’t blow it they really should be 2-5.

@@DownstreamV If they want to say "The Big 10 has more quality opponents and you have to play more consistently..." I will leave it alone. But he literally said "SC has never seen those athletes." It's a dumb thing to say. Also there is some nuance here that is being overlooked by pro pundits and YT commenters alike. SC hasn't been outclassed in any game. They keep losing by one score and have the lead late in the game. A loss is a loss but "these boys are too for them" is a dumb thing to say when they play competitive games against all of them. In fact, SC has repeatedly shot themselves in the foot. By definition, these are games they do have the talent and size to win but keep making stupid penalties, turnovers, and poor clock management. Did they lose? Yes. But they are losing in a way that league isn't too for them. Finally, about those bowl games. It's irritating to see the Big10 fans talk about them like they're the SEC. Look at the game SC played against Bama a few years ago. That's what outclassed looks like. The Big10 is famous for having multiple teams ranked highly all year long and then those same teams make it to the Rose Bowl or the BCS Championship or the CFP and in those cases, they're almost ALWAYS an easy win for a team from some other conference. Including the Pac 12.

Size of players

umm - leach is a branch of the Bob Stoops coaching tree

Just came here to point how dumb that comment was since SC plays (routinely beats) the best Big 10 teams in the Rose Bowl.

@sportbikejesus Typical "Fight on" fan, living in the days of Pete Carroll. Those days are gone , *buddy* . Lincoln will be fired. "Fight on" 😂😂

From who, the “legend”?

Hahahah​@@Commentleaver-c6x