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Line 6 Helix vs Fractal Axe-FX III - How do they compare using the same amp and IR Cabs?

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This video has a lot of setup and discussion - here are the time stamps if you want to jump around...
00:34 - How we set up the A/B test
03:31- The test - audio samples
06:57 - Our thoughts and discussion
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In this video we compare the Line 6 Helix and the Fractal Audio Axe-FX III. We used the song 'Glorious Day' to test each of these units against each other, and we built individual patches for each unit for this song specifically.
In each unit we used the following:
Vox AC30 amp model
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The reverb and delay effects in the two units are different - specifically the reverb, as each company uses its own algorithms, but the reverb and delay types and times were the same.
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@worshiptutorials 4 года назад

Here's one quick note about this test that makes it unfair, in my opinion - or at least not like what I'd do in the real world... The Morgan AC20 amp model in the Axe-FX is by far my favorite amp model I've ever heard on any platform. It's awesome, and it crushes the Vox AC30 models (in both Helix and Axe). It's the amp model I use in the Glorious Day song patch for Axe - it's the amp model I use probably 90% of the time when I play Axe-FX. If I dialed in my 'favorite' amp sound in Axe and compared it to my 'favorite' amp sound in Helix (the Matchless Jumped model), this comparison would be very different. So while this particular comparison evens the playing field between the two modelers and shows that they do sound very similar when you normalize as many of the factors that you can, it doesn't show how I would use each of them compared to each other in a real-world scenario. If Line 6 added the AC20 Deluxe model to the Helix, I would be very, very happy.

@jazzylei143 4 года назад

What happened to the kemper profiler stage? 😎 Please A/b it with helix 👏

@schlagdog 4 года назад

L6 will get right on that AC20. If they start today a year from now it will be out

@kirkhansen9680 4 года назад

+1 for the AC20 Deluxe model in the Helix!

@rangersfanalex 4 года назад

It sounds to me like the verbs are dialed in a little brighter and more full on the helix (which I like). Great job guys!

@WiliamShattner 4 года назад

The modeling world has matured and is totally adequate on both. Now it comes down to the user experience. For me personally, Helix wins usability.

@jonathanmartin3375 4 года назад

Helix users - "Helix sounds so much better" - AxeFX users " "AxeFX sounds so much better" Honestly, they sound so similar that nobody will know. Maybe you and the sound guy.

@mehegama 4 года назад

Jonathan Martin this comment here.

@jonathanmartin3375 4 года назад

@@mehegama I mean, don't get me wrong. I KNOW people beg for these comparison videos, and I thank WT for taking the time to do it. But users are so brand loyal in this market.

@mehegama 4 года назад

Jonathan Martin I have both and through the same ir, you need to be a sound engineer to tell the difference. As if two,say, dual recs will ever sound the same exactly. Most of it is cork sniffing

@iliatilev 4 года назад

my exact thoughts..

@legendfpv 3 года назад

Keep in mind this is just one amp model. The fractal units quickly pull away from the competition when viewed as a whole.

@TonyClarkGuitar 4 года назад

If you like that more midrange tone the Fractal was getting, add the Cali Graph EQ between the amp and the IR and fine tune the EQ. Done. That's where the magic lives in fine tuning the EQ of any amp patch.

@bigdogpretty 4 года назад

I ADORE my Helix, but I can barely tell the difference; both units sound fan-freaking-fabulous!

@Ozman77 3 года назад

When you listen through good headphones the Axe does sound more focused and somewhat more realistic. When you re-listen to the video through open air speakers the difference becomes much less noticeable. It really comes down to what you personally can live with. Not even these two who live with these devices daily could pick a Helix from an Axe3 from a Kemper, or from a pedalboard through the Iridium in the middle of a worship set live in the mix unless they simply guess right. Now the quad cortex is coming very soon, the Boss GT1000 will probably get an update that will improve the response of that unit, and the Headrush will probably up its game at some point, all leaving you with so many options your head will explode trying to make sure you own the best most authentic sounding non-real digital all in one unit.

@davidharrismusician 4 года назад

Wow, these are actually a lot different than I expected them to be...not a bad sound from either unit, but I feel like I'll definitely stick with my Helix!

@legendfpv 3 года назад

😂

@davidharrismusician 3 года назад

@@legendfpv ?

@johnnolan4312 4 года назад

By the time the sound translates to the board then the room/ congregation, nobody knows the difference. Thankyou for the comparison

@turkmusik 4 года назад

God knows the difference.

@solomondaniel6670 4 года назад

Yea man , barely anyone notices all these differences. At the end of the day what fits in the pocket is the king😇🙏

@JemmyJems 4 года назад

I listened to this with my eyes closed and opened them just to see which one was which after each switch. I was always wrong when I opened my eyes to which unit was showing. 😂

@narichey1981 4 года назад

Think the Helix could use a little more drive, and the mids sound like they are eq'd differently. But very close, nobody is going to be able to tell which live

@bikesnbeerz 4 года назад

I have the AXE FX III and Helix LT (for now) and the AXE wins for so many reasons. Primarily the FX though. No contest there. It's really a true studio in a box.

@speedriff 4 года назад

Spot on. I own a Helix Floor and I just bought the AxeFX III. Yes the fractal is more powerful, yes the amp models do sound a bit fuller as do the effects. Sadly Cliff and the guys at Fractal are engineers and they think like engineers sitting at a desk, not like performers on a stage. The AxeFX is a royal PITA to navigate through and set up. I took their word for it when they said they had made it much easier to use. No, they most certainly have not. Their interface architecture is still basically the same and is convoluted with entirely too many button pushes, knob turns, etc. to get to parameters that need to be edited. Nothing about it is intuitive (unless of course you are one of the designers...eye roll). Fractal engineers seem to adore the "Lets bury it in a submenu" way of doing things, performers do not. They want rapid access to parameters if they need to be tweaked (as per the example given in this video). Just hook up the FC-12 for the first time and try and find the tuner function. Seriously, what? It's just stupid. They both have their pros and cons but I'm pretty sure the Helix Floor has outsold all of the various models of Fractal units combined. There is a reason for that. Wise up, Cliff!

@ChrisHendrix117 4 года назад

Ok... I think we can all agree, regardless which platform you use, the rig that inspires you to play is the BEST! The rig with the most play time wins.

@worshiptutorials 4 года назад

For sure. Brad made this point during our discussion at the end.

@KYDY 4 года назад

I’ve A/B’ed both and the difference is immediately noticeable in person when you put a reverb block in each unit. The Axe-Fx has really high quality reverbs. In a full band mix, not too noticeable though. Strictly for amp tones, using the same IR, I couldn’t notice a difference for what I do. A slight difference might be noticed on distorted sustained chords in particular, Helix seems to have a more “flat” sound in the sustain that perhaps helps it be forward in the mix, while the Axe-Fx seems to have more complexity/movement in the chord sustain. I use and like both!

@cliffberry 4 года назад

Helix wet effects sounded wider but quite frankly; I would be happy with either. Keeping my helix with my helix native plugin for Logic.

@JA-no1qk 3 года назад

I just noticed the same thing literally two second before I read your comment! Hah! I like the width

@nicknchrist 4 года назад

Pretty impressed as per how the Helix sounds beside the Axe FX III

@etlifeform 4 года назад

Best side-by-side comparison out there! Thanks.

@kevinrasch7815 4 года назад

Great video! Thank you so much for making this. You have convinced me without a doubt to buy a Fractal FM3 as soon as my name reaches the top of the wait list. It has many of the same advantages as Axe FX III but without the disadvantages of costing more than Helix or having to deal with offstage hardware. The FM3 + FC6 combo gives you 9 programmable foot switches for $1,500. If you don’t already own an expression pedal, you can buy from Fractal for a little over $100 or buy another brand, such as Moog, and keep the whole rig under $1,600. Say goodbye to the law of diminishing returns!

@GtrMan863 4 года назад

Just add another EQ inside your Helix patch and it will sound exactly like the Axe FX

@meirwinston 4 года назад

Nope!

@billzaferatos2256 3 года назад

No it won't

@crownironman 4 года назад

I like Axe FX sound better, I would love playing through it better (I think) but I like the all-in-one of the Helix better than I like the sound of the Axe FX

@amirtak9886 9 месяцев назад

They sound exactly the same, I can hardly tell any difference. The best option for me is going to be the hx stomp xl with the york audio IRs I have. This video proves stock cabs have a bigger effect on tone than the amp models them selves.

@shatteredsquare 4 года назад

I'm glad I stopped by, my worship skills have measurably improved

@SoundPursuit 4 года назад

Thanks for doing this. I’m considering selling my rack mounted Mesa gear and cabinets for something I can actually carry by myself. This was extremely helpful. Thx again!!

@stevieknighten 2 года назад

Do an updated version of this. Helix vs FM9

@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 4 года назад

Had AxeFxIII and helix, now I have Kemper and Overloud Th-U. To me the best of all is the Kemper but it’s old and have a lot of boring drawbacks (no usb audio, no dual amp, no color screen,..) and Th-U is better than AxeFxIII (yes!... made me sell the AxeFxIII....) The best for your money is THU (software) or HX Stomp (pedal) The best quality is on Kemper.

@eddiepool 4 года назад

The difference between good and great is in the detail... You have to be paying attention, to notice that detail. And in the end, you have to pay for that detail. The diminishing return argument falls apart when you can get an app+Bluetooth control pedal for less than $200. Bias Amp on iOS can amp match a sound to pretty close. Is the Helix/Kemper/AFX worth the price difference? To me... Yes they are. The detail, the feel, the flexibility - at each step up, in that order (Line6, Kemper, Fractal), they are definitely worth the difference.... To me....

@IgorHatesEverything 4 года назад

I don't own either unit but am in the market for both, which is why I'm listening to these comparisons. There is not nearly enough of a sound difference here to justify the roughly $1,000 price difference. I'm going with the Helix. They're both excellent.

@capacitiveguitarresistance 3 года назад

listening with monitors no noticeable difference but with headphones there was. Monitors seem more true. I prefer Helix though.

@joeyheshion8108 4 года назад

Real & authentic worship, with... a synthetic amp, synthetic speaker, cab, impulse response, synthetic delay, synthetic reverb and synthetic distortion pedal. :D Just kidding - don' flame me. I play the Axe-Fx III for worship on both guitar and bass, and LOVE IT!! I personally cannot understand why anyone would want to use a Kemper or Helix when the III is available. But... to each their own. Keep strummin' and making music all! Love what you guys do, and thanks for doing it.

@phillipsouthard8285 3 года назад

The problem is that the Axe Fx 3 (or Fm3) aren't "available". Theres a waitlist and even then they're twice the price. For someone who plays four songs on a Sunday as a volunteer, spending $3k+ on gear that you had to wait 3-9 months to get is unrealistic for most of us.

@flytebandtampa2499 2 года назад

I agree with most of your comments, I've owned the Helix and no matter what I tried, I just could not get that full sound, especially on crunch an high gain. I purchased presets from Rhett Schull, an others an although nice presets, it didn't satisfy. The iems while on Helix were also horrible, including bands wedges. I went back to my board an amp, but then took a plunge on fractal fm9. WORLDS APART! 2 live shows and the difference is amazing. I'm learning even more tips from Cooper and can't wait to play the fm9 this weekend again. Imo the fm9 is top dog. Only complaint is screen size an as u mentioned user friendliness on the fly. Great video.

@donnyraines3781 4 года назад

Listening to this through my studio (Event BAS 20/20) monitors, I hear a huge difference. I own both platforms myself and what I have found is that the base tones in the helix seem darker than the axe fx 3. The axe fx 3 has a high end thing that it just does with 90 percent of the IR'S. As demonstrated in this video, there is definently a top end sparkle in the axe fx 3. I prefer the tone from the helix on this particular test. The helix gets you there tone wise much faster than the axe fx 3. I find myself often with the axe fx 3 getting option paralisys. I have learned to grab an amp and then test 2 cab ir's ( one bright and one dark) blend them and then go to the tone knobs on the amp block and adjust. That seems to be the faster way to do it on the axe fx. On the helix, again, if you have a few good ir's (not a fan of the helix's stock cabs) you can dial in a great tone very fast. Gentlemen. I use your presets on a weekly basis on both platforms and love what you do. They're easily worth double what you charge us for. And we all sincerely thank you. God bless ya! Oh, and if you like some good Christian rock, check out faithhead.com! Keep on keeping on, and thank you for doing what you do for our awesome Lord and Savior! Edit: all of our newest album was recorded using axe fx3 and helix for all guitars and bass. They're both great live and studio tools.

@donnyraines3781 4 года назад

@@zwip778 Dont get me wrong, I love the "glassiness" you speak on, I was just giving my opinion solely on the 2 patches demonstrated. I like my praise and worship patch a little on the darker side just because on so many p&w songs the electric guitar is a support instrument. If I need it to stand out, I make it stand out by going to bridge position or kick on a treble boost....Merry Christmas everyone, God bless!

@donnyraines3781 4 года назад

@@zwip778 also,you just taught me something on the helix I've not tried, my next preset build I will try the bias and master trick

@danielpolanco6708 4 года назад

+1 for helix! Sounds cleaner

@ESR66 4 года назад

I listened to it on quality headphones and it sounds clearer.

@aalazzawe 4 года назад

Axe-FX sounds more focused and real to me. It could be the effects

@kb22fender 4 года назад

I’m team Helix all the way. I’m pretty sure I’m not smart enough for the Fractal. Random question though: What guitar is this? It’s not your usual Shelton-that thing has three pickups, so this can’t just be a pick guard swap. Major mods? The Ristrettos were all the pickups you’d ever need?

@averageguitarist918 3 года назад

I really enjoy your reviews. I currently have an FM3. I am a little disappointed by the lack of CPU power. I feel like maybe I should have bought a Helix.......

@eanroad 4 года назад

Great vid! Would love to see y'all develop some Worship patches for the Hotone Ampero (for us folks on a budget). Cheers!

@chrispotts4830 4 года назад

I've used both. I experienced a small, but noticeable amount of latency in the Helix that I couldn't get used to. It felt like playing through an interface into a computer. I returned the Helix and bought an Iridium that I'm much happier with.

@HerroYuy246 4 года назад

Chris Potts latency? I can’t say I’ve ever felt that playing at home or on stage.

@paultiplea 4 года назад

Never experienced latency with my Helix. Maybe you got a lemon?

@joeljohnson9583 3 года назад

I just found that axefx is way easier to get a good sound. In the end if you really know how to EQ the helix you can make it sound good but I found it takes you lots of time to get sounds out of the helix that sound as good as stock Axefx sounds

@MattCrill 4 года назад

I think everyone wins b/c both sound great. Any differences that are noted (in the video or any of the comments) could be "fixed" with an EQ to taste (if you prefer the Axe then you may want to dial out the mids or for Helix may need to dial them up).

@rgoring81 4 года назад

I'm an axe3 owner and from where I'm listening, in this comparison, i hear the ax3 has more mids, more gain and lower delay mix. Thats just my opinion. I've also owned a helix rack before this and really both are awesome. pick which one makes you want to play. The morgan really is so good though!

@NadaSurfinAB 4 года назад

I agree. It's hard to compare Apples to Apples with different pedals, although I appreciate this comparison. To my ears, on iMac speakers with Boom 3 EQ, there were slight differences. The AxeFX sounded less open but maybe a touch more focussed because of a slight midrange bump and high end rolloff, and the Helix was more open and had more chime - and the delays were more "swoopy". However, there were things I liked in each example. If I was going to match the qualities I liked in the AxeFX track on the Helix, I would add a little more drive on the amp or OD models to make it push a little harder from the middle, and keep the chime and "swoop" in the Helix track. As is, you'd have to play each of these live to see how they sit in the FOH mix - but either way, they are each so close, that it would be easy to tweak each to work perfectly - and I might start by rolling off a little tone on the guitar for the Helix version for starters.

@Fallingoverbackwards 4 года назад

Great video, totally agree whatever amp modeler inspires someone to play is the right choice. One difference I wanted to point out is that for the thousand more which is a lot of money, you do get basically an pro level 8 i/o interface that is easily worth a thousand by itself and an fx unit that is at eventide level again that’s easily a thousand, and the big one is it can run 2 paths at once so 2 band members can run at the same time

@lincolnlee777 4 года назад

i love them both! i like the reverbs on the helix just a bit better. but there’s very little difference. call me crazy but i feel that the axe fx is just a little darker

@michaelthomas4156 4 года назад

Thank you for your comparison. My current application is mostly project studio. I believe I may sell my whole rig amps/cabs as I live in 2 apt home and want to be nice to neighbor. Also new lifting (weight) restrictions. I agree completely your comments on the difference in tone and the fractal may have something on the helix. A friend lent me a helix. I did not like it at all. Guess I will go fractal. I have also heard the fractal has a more realistic "feel" that is more musical. Take Care

@stormrising2623 4 года назад

Helix is fine for clean tones, I honestly cost tell the difference. But where it really stumbles is with the distortion. Don't typically use that in worship. But if you're into metal or rock the Axe is the only option. Line 6 gets nasally with distortion. So to me the Axe is more than worth the price difference as it gives you that flexibility. I can't stand the sound of the helix with distortion. Like nails on a chalkboard.

@PainterDans 4 года назад

Storm Rising I still like a real amp best, and the stomp is great for boost, effects and attenuation with the 4cm.

@mrtheroan 4 года назад

Axe is a little smoother. Definitely not better enough to justify the cost increase and the lack of ease of use compared to the Helix.

@jbbourbon178 4 года назад

Axe sounds thicker and dirtier, but I prefer the cleaner and more articulate sound of Helix

@brunobertotti6126 4 года назад

I think the Fractal has more gain in this comparision, but it is increblely close!

@akaboo69 2 года назад

I love my axe ii but I'm switching to helix because the difference is marginal and I want something easier to use.

@jorgea3507 2 года назад

Had the helix I ended up selling it. It just did t fill the room, that certain something especially in drive modes. With the fractal fm 9 the stock amps are incredible. I use live exclusively now, it feel more like amp in room. My only gripe is on the fly adjustments, as u mentioned helix was easier.

@awsomecp173 2 года назад

Thinking of purchasing a helix. Did you use the helix 3.0 firmware?

@justmehere6094 3 года назад

Axe FX is for those that REALLY want to tweak, or want to do complex signal paths, or like to created pedals and FX (because you can change almost everything on the stomps and fx, combine them in more complex ways etc. Helix for simple, good modelling, not doing rea complex stuff.

@scottschafer9913 3 года назад

My question is not so much the inline stuff of recording... which I know will be good with either. But what about the playing it live.... do either push more air like a real tube amp? Do either feel more like a real amp at volume?

@rata1983 4 года назад

Awesome video as always! Could you guys make a video on how you make videos lol, how to mix guitar, voice and video on a user friendly way for worship musicians wanting to up their game on the videos?? I have a axe fx III, a MacBook Pro with logic and Final Cut Pro but final cut has been really confusing for me at least. Or if you could direct me to any instructional you know of, thank you guys and keep up the great work!

@bmitchellmusic 4 года назад

FIRST REAL AMPS FOR LYFE

@dougkatie974 4 года назад

"bAcK iN mY dAy"

@SethDStanley 4 года назад

@DIY nah he's an iridium guy now :D

@jerrysitumorang5186 4 года назад

Question for you guys, I know this is kinda out of topic. But are you guys gonna start covering headrush gigboard / pedal board?

@GrafxsoundsPhoto 4 года назад

How did you know I stay up to 2a.m. playing? I just got the helix and love it. Bought one of your patches and used it in church this Sunday. So thanks!

@8sigreg 2 года назад

The FX3 running the Ares firmware sounds nothing like what a current one running the Cygnus firmware sounds like. In addition, both modelers in this comparison are so highly EQ'd they've lost the lows and highs that would differentiate them normally. Having had two Helix Floors and a Stomp, and FM3/FM9 and FX3 Fractals, all running their current firmware, I'm very familiar with their sounds and what they can do and sound like, and this doesn't represent either system well.

@superdaddy1973 4 года назад

Thank you for your videos. I know they have been great blessing to ones that are running the same equipment you have. But for ones that are on a budget or running older gear, is there a way for you to do videos on those kinds of boards as well? For example, I am running an older Line 6 M13 board, and I would really appreciate some videos on custom patches and uses for that.

@Sarg7 4 года назад

When you make patches for each song of the set. Do you just re-arrange each Sunday so your patches are right next to each other? A morgan in the Helix would be sweet!

@worshiptutorials 4 года назад

I just have a separate setlist in the Helix called 'Sunday', and I copy/paste the song patches for that weekend into it in the order we're doing them.

@TriumphWithoutGlory 4 года назад

The Axe sounds more "open" (but not as open as a tube amp) than the helix but in a mix with other instruments compression, effects, signal processing, both sound good to release a record no one can tell if it's one or the other ^^

@BeachJazzMusic 4 года назад

Great Video! I was just discussing this with my Sweetwater Rep. I can hear differences but I don't think one is better than the other and the differences are so subtle in tone that it's negligible. I would think the AxeFX III can probably do a lot more due to the power in the DSP processor but from this video I think it comes down to how much to you need? So now I'm more interested in the Tone Junkie IR's.

@stormrising2623 4 года назад

If you're into clean tones for worship the helix will be great but if you play rock or metal the helix sounds terrible. Totally nasal tone. That's where the fractal shines with it's higher power processing and modeling engine.

@speedriff 4 года назад

Yeah but the Fractal is a convoluted mess to navigate through. The Helix is so much better in the way it's laid out and how it integrates with the musician. You won't be doing any patch tweaking while playing with the AxeFX. With the Helix it's easy.

@darthmaxo 4 года назад

Helix delay has much more presence and bounce back. Great vid guys.

@neilrichardson7204 4 года назад

That's down to settings not the unit

@ozmusic3035 4 года назад

The legend about axe fx3 being better than helix...helix way better thanks for the video

@HankCScorpio 4 года назад

Why does worship musicians copy the U2 sound? I mean where did it start?

@alienlovesecrets9379 4 года назад

Why not?

@markford4587 4 года назад

The modern worship guitar tone came out of the UK with the Vineyard stuff in the 80s and exploded from there

@pauljosse 2 года назад

Hèlix is as good as anything out

@calebwhitcraft1664 4 года назад

Granted I'm just listening through desktop computer speakers, but the Axe seems to have a more pronounced high-mid pop to it. They both sound great, and neither seems 'better', but much easier to hear the difference than I might have expected.

@jonesy5185 4 года назад

Axe FX sounded more open, cleaner highs, less muddy. Can you achieve the same through Eq? If so, then go the cheaper Helix

@billsstudio2528 4 года назад

Had Helix for about a year then sold it. Got FXIII recently and I prefer the Axe FXIII by a good margin. But Helix ain’t bad 😁

@LanceKeltnerMusic 3 года назад

Great demo. Why does all new Christian music sound like U2? It's neat, but it all sounds that way.

@bayronjnc314 2 года назад

Creo que el guitarrista usaba con frecuencia el delay, el ritmo, círculos de acordes similares.

@minalhembrom140 4 года назад

Helix is awesome

@crxshdxmmy 4 года назад

A touch more gain and compression, maybe a little EQ tweaking and I think this "comparison" comes out significantly more even. That said, the clarity you hear from the Helix here is actually quite nice in a couple of spots.

@dougkatie974 4 года назад

They both sound great! There's like a more prominent lower mid's thing going on in the AXE FX III. It's hard to not be biased being I love fractal. I'm loving the AX8 and it meets all my needs.

@zwip778 4 года назад

Doug Camero more low mids in helix by far. Ownhammer recommends a cut for helix at 400hz range with 2.1 q for parametric eq.

@malachiskelly3919 4 года назад

They don't sound that different to me... 🤔

@firubbi 2 года назад

axe-fx lll has around 800hz boost compare to helix.

@steveyoo7925 4 года назад

I see your point with diminishing returns, but it was unfortunate that you used modeling as an example given that the hx stomp is in the $500 range and gives you the same modelling as the helix haha. Bradford, what made you switch over from the hx stomp to the iridium on your board? Thanks for these videos, guys!

@DEADMEDIC 4 года назад

Axe fx for sure. But that’s not Saying helix or stomp cant get you through a fly gig. If all I could carry is my gig Bag then it’s stomp. But if I’m hanging in my studio space at home I’ll dig into axfx/kemper. But to be honest. It nice sometimes to just turn on stomp and not need to tweak as much on the parameters.

@SethDStanley 4 года назад

Axe sounds middy and the Helix sounds mid-scooped, and the Helix sounds like it has less gain applied in the patch. Both sit well in the mix though, just a preference thing really. Honestly with a little more EQ work I think you could have gotten the Helix to sound identical. I do wish the Helix had the AC20 and the Fender Princeton, those sound AMAZING in the AxeFX

@garyk66channel 4 года назад

Very helpful video. I did think the Fractal sounded a bit better, but I need simple and portable, so I’ll stay with Helix. BTW, on Helix I use the output at the end of the chain to give a dB boost, as opposed to adding a block. I think you can even assign it to a foot switch if you want. Any downside to that method?

@IntheDAW 4 года назад

The helix rack has the same IO that the axe fx has i think. It even has the clean di out. But the ace fx and the helix have a clean di channel that always gets recorded when using usb

@tompolinko2061 2 года назад

Please do another test between the two, now that Cynagus is out in axe fx 3, please.

@mytube24able1 4 года назад

To my ears, AXE has more...pardon the expression "balls" than the Helix. The sound is thicker and meatier, like a perfectly cooked steak. I own a Helix and debating an AXE. Maybe an AX8, or a used AXE rack.

@DanielGOFilho 4 года назад

Axe fx III is more crunch 👍🏽

@hjhy573 4 года назад

How

@aragorn767 3 года назад

USB Output 7/8 on the Helix are also a dry DI.

@brutalmorality5885 Год назад

Fractal only offers a 1 year warranty and that makes it a deal breaker for me...

@GuitarLessonSarasota 15 дней назад

3x more the tone than a $500 mfx? Honestly, using the same IR, compare the Vox in the zoom g6 $260 new…..

@joaoelbert 4 года назад

great tones! one question, tho: i recently bought the match modified IR pack by tonejunkie but i dont remember them having a dc-30 cab pack in the list (it says "matchless EDS cabinet").. could someone link me this IR pack? or is it the same as the match modified?

3 года назад

I think this was a very odd choice of a tone to demonstrate which device sounds better.

@spada60 4 года назад

Can the Ax FX3 free patch be used in the AX8

@peterschaefer1665 3 года назад

You kinda have to take all the effects off to hear the subtle differences guys.🤐

@jcaryali 3 года назад

Hello from Spain. I'm amateur guitarist and ever analog. I want to buy a digital pedalboard and i´d like your opinion because you have tried both models; FM3 or HELIX FLOOR?. With your experience, better sounds, effects, easiest to use or program presets...etc. THANKS

@jjthejjetplane 4 года назад

My personal preference is the helix. At least in this comparison. But that BY NO MEANS means the axe fx is inferior. Tastes are purely subjective.

@HaShemMetal 4 года назад

The axe fx has a funky piercing cut in the high mids that is uncomfortable to my ears in this comparison. The verb in the hellx is wider sounding as well. The axe sounds a bit “messier” for lack of a better term which can work in its favor for realism.

@SDA-Sound 3 года назад

am I the only one here who hears the AXE being played on the bridge pickup and the line 6 on the bridge/neck?

@bailey12444 4 года назад

I actually have both and I actually don’t really find a huge difference, lately I actually digging my Kemper a bit more.

@edwinkimmusic 4 года назад

Art Sal love the kemper.

@chrisstone-streetlightinte5629 4 года назад

Yeah those IRs make it so that both sound so close that I can't tell the difference if I'm not looking at the screen through my 280HD monitors.

@DaveSteele07 4 года назад

How do you get beyond not having amps on stage when the drums are the loudest thing on stage? In ear monitors just takes the soul out of playing music.

@matthewstiles353 4 года назад

Get a power amp and a really flat speaker.

@DaveSteele07 4 года назад

Matthew Stiles I wish it were that easy, The new regime seems determined to keep any amplification off stage. If that were the case I just would have got me a powered monitor.

@matthewstiles353 4 года назад

@@DaveSteele07 ohhh, I thought you meant not having a cab with a modeler in general. I was skeptical about transitioning to in-ears in church too. My only advice is to get a really nice molded set. It still doesn't quite "feel" right but even when I was using a high end nonmolded consumer set, it was extremely distracting compared to the molded 2 and 3 drivers. It also helps a lot when you can be your own monitor guy. We used axiom units which are kind of unsightly in my opinion, but as long as all the musicians are sending consistent signal and the engineer is sending you good, flat, dry signal, it can make things a lot easier. Granted it will never be the same as standing in front of an amp, at least with crystal clear audio it can be less distracting.

@DaveSteele07 4 года назад

@@matthewstiles353 our sound person has the keyboards on the same channel due to not having enough headphone outs. Instead of complaining about it, and ruin things for everyone else, I stepped down. I do appreciate your feedback though.

@matthewstiles353 4 года назад

@@DaveSteele07 Sorry to hear that. Good luck finding another fulfilling way to serve if you're called to it.

@MattMacKo 3 года назад

Axe FX 3 FM9???

@jerryreff1857 3 года назад

Fractal seemed a little brighter. Not worse or better. Just brighter

@KYDY 4 года назад

Your comparison has quite a stereo delay set up for the Helix while a fairly mono delay for the Axe-Fx. Probably not intended for the comparison, I thought I’d point it out. Fun video, cheers!

@hjhy573 4 года назад

Yes but actually no

@KYDY 4 года назад

@@hjhy573 Huh?