Line 6 HX Effects vs. Analog Effect Pedals - Audio Comparison (no talking)

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@GuitarBonedo 4 года назад

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@evilfab5195 4 года назад

Usually not a fan of Line 6 products. But to be honest, I must confess it's impressive. And the price range of HX Effects is really good. Well done !

@christiaandemarezoyens4720 3 года назад

I've always been a fan (with the exception of the hideous Variax), I still have the very first Pod they released. I'll receive my HX Stomp tomorrow, can't wait!

@JeremyJames_studio 3 года назад

@@christiaandemarezoyens4720 How did you find it Christiaan?

@christiaandemarezoyens4720 3 года назад

@@JeremyJames_studio I'm still getting familiar with everything this product can do! But so far, I'm really pleased with it. I work with film scoring and use a lot of guitar with multiple effects instead of synths like most composers use. The Stomp has many uses for me. For example, I can record with it at night so that I don't pester the neighbors with my amps by using the amp/cabinet sims. They are great and by using effects before the HX I can have two different configurations (stereo) of amps and cabs. Another way for me is to place a whole bunch of pedals as inserts so that I can bypass them, use the stomp effects and for a different part bypass them and use mine going through it. I really like the compressors in the Stomp and the copy of classics like Tube Screamer and Fuzzes are really good!

@JeremyJames_studio 3 года назад

@@christiaandemarezoyens4720 Yes it does sound so versatile. I already have a captor X for silent recording but I gotta say those stereo outs are seriously tempting!

@adownbeatexegete1549 2 месяца назад

Helix era Line 6 is way different than the POD era.

@roomtomove8004 4 года назад

... my conclusion: the HX sounds really good

@johnvcougar 4 года назад

I agree, it's its own thing. Fun comparison, tho'

@rocksteady9115 4 года назад

Sounds thin to my ears

@johnvcougar 4 года назад

@@rocksteady9115 it's very tweakable, and you have to invest time to get the sounds you want, but it pays back in flexibility and "remembory", plus the ability to send out external commands etc. I confess since getting mine I've hardly powered it on, being a bit disappointed with the OOB sounds, but watching the unit being used in the hands of the likes of Pete Thorn gives me the hope that there is a path forward. In the interim, my analog boards have grown substantially, so I've got some work to do before it satisfies my own comparisons. But I'm up for it.

@rocksteady9115 4 года назад

@@johnvcougar I'm sure it's use able but to my ears I don't like the digital thinness, I'll stick with the old school approach that has worked for 40 years

@johnvcougar 4 года назад

@@rocksteady9115 sure, mate, I get it. The HXFX is the only digital unit I have in my arsenal apart from my Ox, a DAW and my Korg keyboard. I'm an analog guy too.

@bigmonsterrock 3 года назад

I'm watching and listening to this at a professional music recording studio through professional monitors. From what I can tell, the HX comes extremely close to nailing most of the time-based effects like, chorus, delay, vibrato, phase, etc... but when it comes to the distortion pedals, it tends to sound a bit on the thin side. Still seems like it's worth the money.

@adityabali1939 3 года назад

Nothing some minimal EQ can’t fix

@Krabin_ 3 года назад

An Eq could help the thinness, but I completely agree. Almost every effect was matched almost perfectly except heavy distortion. Thinness can be fixed with an eq, but even the dynamics seemed off to me. Still, the helix is awesome!! Me wanty

@feliperodriguez5390 3 года назад

Agree... not sure if warmth could be good with EQ

@benjimontgomery9826 3 года назад

Moreover, we shall not forget that having a lot of pedals on the board causes a significant signal loss through the whole chain, so the overall tone could sound even thinner than an Helix HX (unless you use a buffer and one or more high quality power supplies). In this test, the single pedals are compared to the HX one by one!

@ctnicetune141 2 года назад

And yet this isn’t its main purpose. Does so much more but shows the versatility.

@alfredcakeburn1166 3 года назад

I went along to see a band who I believed would be using analogue old school pedals. Imagine my disgust in a loud noisy bar with sound bouncing all over the place to pick up that they were in fact using one of these modern doo-hickeys. It ruined my evening of musical philistinism. I shall never wear my leather dust coat to a gig again.

@heyyuyeung8729 3 года назад

Hahahahahaha

@rigormortiz9114 2 года назад

Imagine listening to vinyl and found out they are using digital multi effects. So disgusting...

@jimyoung9262 2 года назад

I bet they didn't even have a real Klon.

@nightpandas7178 Год назад

Idk bro that duster is pretty badass

@clintonrice8452 5 месяцев назад

If you’re a musical philistine, why do you care? By definition you don’t understand art.

@JammyGit 3 года назад

For the most part, a lot of the pedals are indistinguishable from the physical pedals, and this makes the Line 6 practically a pedal killer. I've heard versions on my Stomp of the Klon Centaur and Tone King and they're very close to the real ones so as far as I'm concerned the HX is plenty good enough 👍

@RadicalCaveman Год назад

The distortion ones are easily distinguishable, as is the Electric Mistress Some of the others sound a bit different, some very close. All of the differences favor the analog.

@jonmuir13 4 года назад

Plot twist, they actually switched the audio so all the analog pedals were the HX and vise versa

@jmclen7 2 года назад

I know that’s not true. The Helix ds-1 is just not right. Has this ridiculous sag that a properly functioning ds-1 doesn’t have. Still don’t know how they managed to mess that one up (as good as the other models are) but it can be clearly heard in the HX Effects demo here.

@MrHoogoorock 2 года назад

@@jmclen7 it’s in the programming setup in the helix , you can fix that issue.

@jmclen7 2 года назад

@@MrHoogoorock Oh really? Something like lowering the gain/changing the impedance? I know it can’t be that it was poorly modeled. Has to be a bug of some sort.

@MrHoogoorock 2 года назад

@@jmclen7 I do agree with you on the modelling, to me a big miss in the mid frequencies less full sound. to my point in bridging the gap in the difference have a look at the settings on the ds1 versus the helix for one the tone is right down on the helix. I’m going to jam on mine now to see what I can do, might even put an eq in front of it.

@jspic4907 4 года назад

Great demo. This machine is marvelous. All the effects are so close tomthe originals that if those had sounded like this, they would still be bona fide classics. In a mix, nobody could ever tell the difference.

@digitalchris6681 4 года назад

Well, I'll take the HX. Dozens of pedals in one unit; and who's to say that even the ones that sounded better in analogue (eg Rat) couldn't be bettered with a few HX settings tweaks ?

@IMonsterCoke 4 года назад

Amen, brother.

@danielbell4007 4 года назад

The rat models are not well liked even in HX friendly circles(kind of considered the weak link in the drive section by many). But considering the rest of the effects and options the HX effects and the HX stomp are still no nonsense, no brainer quality options.

@digitalchris6681 4 года назад

Daniel Bell Interesting. Almost all of my Helix setups use just the Deez One Mod for crunch, although I must admit I enjoy messing around with the other gazillion combinations of distortion pedals and settings.

@smokingun397 4 года назад

I doubt if any listener of music anywhere in the world would be judging how close the O/D sound is to an analog pedal :-)

@digitalchris6681 4 года назад

Smokin Gun So true. It's still fun doing the comparisons though..... I get as much enjoyment messing with valves, speakers, pedals, pickups, tone controls, wiring etc etc as I do playing it.

@mixodorians12 3 года назад

Cost of all those analogue pedals..I reckon around 2 grand, if you can actually still get them and they sounding consistent. Plus the cost of sticking them on a pedal board and lumping that gynormous thing around. And it getting nicked twice a week. Cost of a HXFX, 340 quid. I mean it is a no brainer. So what the sound isn't perfect. Modern technology is just sublime these days.

@jdl2180 3 года назад

More like 20,000 dollars.

@mrchrisbeaver 11 месяцев назад

Got to admit, I prefer the real pedals every time here but in terms of value for money the HX is really good

@Maysha6bona 4 года назад

Fair comment here: Most of the effects in Helix sound really good and indistinguishable (from their analog counterparts) in a mix.

@hadeseye2297 4 года назад

"in a mix" Yes.

@mehegama 3 года назад

@@hadeseye2297 and in general. there are loads and loads of vids that prove that in a blind test you cannot tell them apart. Not just helix but all major players in modelling

@hadeseye2297 3 года назад

@@mehegama "in modelling" Well I hear a big difference between my Katana and Blackstar valve amp. And their response to pedals is also different. But it all boils down to the tone you are into. There is this guy who's name I always forget. He plays his gigs using unmodded squier bullet among many other guitars. You can find interview with him on Marty Music channel. Guy plays bluesy stuff.

@georgechristiansen6785 3 года назад

And there is also the question of settings. Enough tweeking and i'd bet anyone money they could not tell the differences.

@AdamManley7 3 года назад

@@hadeseye2297 the katana is a solid state amp that’s not the same as digital modeling like the higher end helix stuff or the new pod go

@henrikhansen6617 4 года назад

I'm not a pedal snob, but I think every original effect sounded better than the HX. It was simply a matter of what sounded more inspiring. I didn't expect that.

@danielsandaarhus 4 года назад

Same!

@xdoctorblindx 4 года назад

I agree. I was expecting to not be able to tell much of a difference, but there was definitely some mojo missing in the HX emulations.

@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 4 года назад

No doubt, but in the context of a full song mix, Especially when frequencies of guitars are beating cut or boosted to sit in a mix, who would know? And I say that as someone who uses analog pedals.

@xdoctorblindx 4 года назад

@@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 Good point. I just think that so much of guitar "sound" is really about feel (how the signal chain responds to your fingers), and RAT sound especially "felt" wrong, if that makes sense haha.

@henrikhansen6617 4 года назад

Ride Yer Camel Definitely a valid point. I was mostly thinking about that initial sonic experience and response when you play gear that really speaks to you. In my experience it makes me want to play more and often inspires new stuff. On the other hand I often feel stifled in my playing and ideas if the sound isn't "there". I guess that's why guitarists spend so much time searching for good tone - it's simply vital to play something meaningful.

@kenmasters007 4 года назад

Love seeing those old school pedals! Would like to see a part 2 that compares the klon, zendrive, KoT and maybe some classic reverbs.

@robertguitar1746 4 года назад

Up!

@JohnShalamskas 10 месяцев назад

I watched a youtube video where the KoT was pretty much perfectly emulated on the Helix after a lot of tweaking, especially the eq. It used up 2 blocks though. Since I already have a KoT, I prefer placing it between the guitar and my HX Stomp XL. Saves 2 blocks and has dedicated knobs. Downside is no way to save settings, takes up more space, and requires more power and signal wiring.

@nataroonytrontime3976 4 года назад

In my opinion analoug effects are always better sounding but for the money line 6 is realy good and probably the best sounding multi effects unit on the market. Although the trem sounds more like a vibratone than a tremelo

@nedim_guitar 2 года назад

Great demo! I tried the Helix, but my problem was that I just sucked at tweaking it. I prefer my pedals and amps. It's more work in a way, but I have limited options, which is good! I still have a lot of versatility with pedals, but I don't have option paralysis and endless tweaking syndrome.

@MarlonKingShow 3 года назад

I came here to see the RAT sound, didnt sound as good imho, but all the other effects were very close, been considering this or a stomp to open up some more fx options and I can still use my rat at same time. Thanks for the demo, amazing matching and comparisons. Appreciate the effort to set this up.

@shortorderproductions8688 3 года назад

There has been a new RAT model added that sounds much closer to a real RAT. Line 6 stated that their original model was bugged.

@MarlonKingShow 3 года назад

@@shortorderproductions8688 thank you, really helpful to know.

@aaronshortmusic 4 года назад

Time based type effects sound amazing and some of the drives not as good but it’s convenient and amazing value plus it works great as an amp controller. We are spoiled for choice these days.

@darianolivares408 3 года назад

I hate pedal purists. Idc how good you think your ear is, when factoring in price, ease of transportation and ability to record, the difference in analog PEDALS is negligible. AMPS might be a different story but even with IRs an entire rig can fit right in your box from amps to mics etc.

@nightpandas7178 Год назад

Just the fact that you can set up 128 unique pedalboards and the quality is 99% of the standalone pedal makes this so worth it. Want to set up a jack white pedalboard? Done. How about a Nirvana pedalboard? Done. What about your Pantera sound? Black album board, psych rock board, or a Hendrix board, or set up a board per song and use snapshots. It's so versatile and I think the exact answer I've been looking for

@mrburns366 11 месяцев назад

Some of the analog effects were warmer than their digital counterparts but I'm sure that could be fixed with eq

@ProblemForSolution 22 дня назад

It can't really. Look at the bad stone example, the analog sounds way more "organic". Even if you boosted lows on the digital part it wouldn't sound as good.

@PoliteAF 3 года назад

Most of these effects sounded great, and the pedal seems like it can be set up in a lot of practical ways that would reduce the number of cables I run. I think I'll buy one... ...and a separate ProCo Rat.

@dyas4881 5 месяцев назад

too true

@stuartmoxham5889 4 года назад

They all sound different from the real pedals buts thats not really the point. The whole idea of a multi FX is convenience. It allow a guitarist to have a number of patches and change FX easily during a gig. It's ideal for a cover band playing lots of different venues. It's ideal for a guitarist that wants to create their own sound and experiment with different FX. For the cost of the HX Effects or a HX Stomp you get a great value package. However for a guitarist that needs a few pedals then separate pedals maybe a much better option. Also pedals don't have to be bought at all at the same time but they can be a money pit

@djkolcun 4 года назад

For me, it about the money. Guitarists can easily spend thousands of $ on effects pedals (I was well on my way to that). Helix offers all of those effects (maybe not exact, but really, really close in almost all cases) for a fraction of the cost.

@ThomasHope73 5 месяцев назад

Listening on good headphones, the difference is clear; the digital stuff lacks the vitality of the analogue. I hear it particularly in the high end; a lack of presence and air, but it’s more than cold frequencies; it’s the way they behave.

@rolandburt2856 3 года назад

These are close enough IMO that you can figure out which pedals you like best before your amp and experiment with different tones. If you get something you really like or want to incorporate in your core tone then go out and get the pedal it is emulating as yes, the actual pedal is going to sound a little better and probably be more responsive, sound better stacked with other gear, etc.... And you will still have a host of other very usable effects to work with in the HX. Some of which not only sound good, but actually really good. Another huge benefit to me is how readily you can play and switch the order of the effects or add modulated delays/verbs.

@richardsmith1055 7 месяцев назад

My ears don't lie, if you are a professional, Electro-harmonix is incomparable!

@poxcr 2 года назад

Wow! The Helix effects seem close enough to the real thing to be practically indistinguishable. Even then, the physical pedals sound perhaps slightly different, not necessarily better.

@zenquad 2 года назад

Well, to my ears the analog versions sound better every time. More dynamic and natural sounding.

@alexisdepena8635 2 года назад

@@zenquad 😂

@zenquad 2 года назад

@@alexisdepena8635 Don't you think so? Might be tone deaf then

@alexisdepena8635 2 года назад

@@zenquad i think you are a tone snob

@ST-ry7lr 2 года назад

@@zenquad I think if you were hearing these in person you could make a quality distinction, which would subjective, of course. But by the time you hear anything on youtube the sound has been converted and compressed so many times it's impossible to properly assess the sound quality of any of these devices.

@bladestratford 4 года назад

Well done video - thank you! The actual pedals sounded better to my ears almost every time but the differences were fairly subtle and I don't think you'd notice them in a live setting with a drummer. Great unit to gig with.

@laneonguitar64 3 года назад

plus, the settings could be bumped/tweaked a bit.....it is a great pedal in any situation.

@newstuff1107 2 года назад

I wonder if you had the image of the real pedal during the Helix audio if you would have guessed the same.

@gweeboyoda Год назад

@@newstuff1107 I went back and forth a couple times. The Line 6 consistently seems to always be a bit compressed, and there's a mild kind of warm background fuzz. The disparity is particularly noticeable on one of those last distortion pedals. But the first thing I clocked was the chorus not ringing or conveying as much space. Dunno how easy it is to fix these things if it's enough to make you care.

@GearStuffandThings 4 года назад

I used this in my rig for two years. With tweaking everything that’s emulated was able to be indistinguishable from its analog counterpart. The folks saying there are huge differences ... I call BS! Spend the time and tweak the effects

@arkman117 4 года назад

Huge differences no, almost indiscernible.

@ChickenThug55 4 года назад

Agree. Unless you have a main guitar solo portions like doing blues n stuff and it just sounds totally off because your setting on the HX is totally off. Even so, all talented players will make anything sound good.

@GearStuffandThings 4 года назад

@@ChickenThug55 you’d just have to set things per song which is super easy in hx

@2tallB 3 года назад

Re: tweaking - I think he could have had a better comparison if he took the time to match the tones better, there were often simple EQ differences. Also, it should be played through an amp not an OX. Other than that, it's still interesting.

@giannilauriola4863 3 года назад

In una scheda audio si. Prova in un ampli.

@TKDFORCEART 4 года назад

this comment section be like : I paid for my pedals so they are better than the HX

@lucasgoncalvesdefaria7121 4 года назад

TRUEEE I mean I paid all that money for one unit alone it has to be better right? ...right??

@yessitsme6884 4 года назад

I've replaced most of my effect pedals with a Helix. But I still can't get the Helix drives to push my amp the way analog drives do, so these stay. That's going into an already dirty amp (JCM800 style)

@bayesian2007 Месяц назад

Helix lacks bottom end punch.

@ryanleemartin7758 2 года назад

not a fan of the drives but everything else, very usable. And this thing seems great as a hub kind of device for other pedals on a board.

@boimesa8190 11 месяцев назад

l wish the small stone block sounded more authentic...

@etrou4 4 года назад

Helix does well only the sounds I don't like very much. I don't think it's a deal. I got me a very descent pedal board for cheaper than that and I can change the stuff I don't like anytime. The only advantage is that you can store your settings. Thanks for the video.

@gvgvhk.jg.4579 3 года назад

Helix sounds really good. The three pedals I didn't like were RAT, Big Muff and Arbiter Fuzz. The rest were very good, good or acceptable. Actually it's kind of interesting that pedals like fuzzes with very simple 5 transistor circuits are the most difficult to replicate...

@jimyoung9262 2 года назад

And most of us have a crap ton of them anyways😉

@KJ4VGA 2 года назад

Most if not all vintage fuzzes change depending on what is before and after them, so they can vary A LOT, even using the same exact pedal.

@JohnShalamskas 10 месяцев назад

Chaos is difficult to model. Fuzz and heavy distortion is very chaotic.

@mattrosenfeld4316 Год назад

Thank you for doing this comparison. Very good showcase. I actually just bought one of these to maybe use in conjunction with my analog pedalboard and I'm sorry. This thing comes close but it has an overall harshness that has been really displeasing. Even when just using delay and a clean amp signal the overall tone just gets harsh. Has anyone else experienced this? Many of these kinds of demos don't demonstrate distortion correctly. You really need to listen to what happens as the sound dies down and it doesn't compare to the analog pedals at that level. I still may keep it for the dealy, etc. It is a good and overall versatile box that I can see many uses for but the purist snob in me has questions. lol

@officialpoa3171 Месяц назад

*In order to make the VERY MOST out of that unit and moreover to tune those effects to be moreover identical, you will need to use the 10 band graphic EQ AFTER the effect. This way you can boost or cut particular frequencies that will provide that final bit of UMF, to bring the HX EFFECTS 100% identical emulations. Most of that EQ will be in the MIDRANGE*

@400_billion_suns 4 года назад

Can you repeat this test with either the Stomp, LT, or Helix Floor? The reason I'm asking is because those units have an analog variable input impedance circuit on the guitar input, which switches based on the effect you've chosen. It matters a LOT for things like fuzzes, and I think you'd get much closer matches to the real pedals by using the Helix units which have this extra impedance circuit.

@TylerHodelin 4 года назад

The Boss DS-1 sounds so good here

@levijessegonzalez3629 4 года назад

Am I the only one that thinks the originals all sounded better? (Besides the tube screamer. Tie)

@400_billion_suns 4 года назад

The reason the fuzzes sound so bad, I'm guessing, is because the HX Effects doesn't have the variable input impedance circuitry that the fullblown Helix, LT, and Stomp have. Why they left this out on this unit is baffling, because it matters a lot for those particular effects. The fuzzes and such that sounded so poor in this video do not sound that way on my Helix Floor...

@billrand4138 4 года назад

yes been pissed of with this since i bought one

@pappyfightkid 3 года назад

I have the HX Stomp, and think it's awesome at what it does well. What I don't understand though, the amp models generally sound great, but the dirt pedal models are the weak link. Surely it's harder to model an amp than a pedal? Is it because the pedal models are made for the full range of Line 6 products with less capability?

@uniquetune0101 Год назад

*forget it, single pedals are light years ahead*

@dimayehonathankurbet8960 4 года назад

DS1 ANALOG SOUNDS MUCH BETTER THEN HELIX AND THAT IS THE REASON I SOLD MY HELIX ....THE FUZZ/DISTORTION MIMICS ARE JUST BAD.....

@simonpyza5270 3 года назад

I got rid of my Mobius, Time Factor, BB Xotic as well as Blue Sky reverb once I got HX Effects. It's simply amazing, you won't be able to tell the difference. Obviously you need a very good valve amp. I go with JK Amplifiers.

@DamienSawyer 9 месяцев назад

I got rid of the valve amp when I got a line 6 Catalyst.

@johnnybosnia554 2 года назад

5:55 Bonkers mate! Which song is that?

@tubular2times 2 года назад

IF you like the original tone you will tell a difference. If you don't care - then modulation is the way to go. Furthermore IF you like your set up and it give you confidence - then do that. However IMHO as much as I like the convenience of Helix, HeadRush etc. - I have ZERO patience for twiddling about to try and create sounds to replicate pedals I already know and love.

@andreguilhermediasarraiano9287 4 года назад

for me its not about tonal differences. there are some, but they are negligible. what makes me stick to analog pedals is the way the sound feels 'around' the notes that are being played... i dont know if i am being clear but its like the sound itself is similar, but i like all that comes togheter with the sound in an analog board. digital sounds good, not gonna lie, but also sounds kinda 'flat' or 'too quiet'. like too 'dry'. I know ppl will say 'just twerk the controls etc' but its not about that, it really isnt and im not fan boying and rejecting digital, i actually have a dd6... but still, after u make it 24bits, it doesnt feel bad, just feels different...

@arkman117 4 года назад

I just experienced that in this video do you know what it is? It reminds me of that pressure you feel in a room where there’s a hot mic, do you know what I’m referring to? You don’t necessarily notice it until someone turns the mic off then you go oh there’s a light pressure change, when you turn it back on you feel it, maybe sort of hear something it’s hard to describe other than it’s even and consistent and I feel like that’s in there with the hx, especially with the distortions it sort of makes them feel more even and the analogs response felt more wavy or flowing. It’s hard to describe but after I read your comment I feel like you experienced the same thing.

@andreguilhermediasarraiano9287 4 года назад

@@arkman117 u tottaly got what ur sayin, it is indeed that feeling! yesterday i was watching a review about the green ringer octaver vs a lovepedal one, and the pedal was so random, cause u never do the exact same thing twice, so as u keep doin the same riff, the pedal keeps reacting different, take a look! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-amShSi3VNwY.html&ab_channel=WaterBear-TheCollegeofMusic

@joeychainsaw666 4 года назад

Have you done a video like this with the Boss Katana? Would love to see it! I went back a year in your playlist, maybe I didn’t go far enough?

@caramidico 4 года назад

Modulaciones bastante bien, las distorsiones no tanto

@BadMofoMusicCritic 2 года назад

the analog stuff can at times be more inspiring - but that's not the point of this comparison. The HX is so impressive, and having the effect on hand is better than not having it at all. And they are surprisingly convincing to my ear. Yet of course, not quite the real thing.

@feedbackbro 2 года назад

Great demo. Nicely done. Also...I didn't realize the 70's chorus and the Pebble Phaser could sound that nice. Great stuff.

@uberkitsch3928 2 года назад

I have always disliked Line 6 as a matter of course, my bad! I have always believed that Multi effects units were a huge tone sucking waste of time. This however has changed my mind. I’ve had one for a few days now and I must say WOW! There are seemingly endless options. Stacking gain pedals, delays, etc.. The set up options have something for everyone! I own the vast majority of the “go to” stomps we all covet, this thing is the alternative everyone has been needing. Buy it.

@二加二 4 года назад

A great comparision, i think hx effect is very awsome, althought some of the pedal that emulate is abit diffrent but overall is amazing at the sound and the price

@Alex_Martz 5 месяцев назад

Excellent comparison! almost no difference on isolated tracks so no one will notice a difference in a mix or with a band, the HX effects is the best value for money multi FX, pair this with a Tone X One and you have a super compact and powerful rig

@MrFosamax 4 года назад

Analog small stone is tridimensional and with more orgánic sound. The DS-1 distortion emulation is very compressed and unstable signal.

@rayfromvegas 2 месяца назад

I like it but here’s a situation! Need to make quick adjustment and reach down to find the menus then go into the menu and scroll over to the adjustments to make your adjustment and then you hit save and then you play and then it’s still not right damnit!! By then the song is over and the lead singer is looking at you wanna fire you for fucking with your pedal to find that perfect setting. Just saying 😊

@goswo 3 года назад

Some effects (HX) sounds really good, others still have this “digital thing” I can hear (almost feel) and I hate it :-(

@mhoff7722 3 года назад

Same here. I didn't care for any of the distorted tones here analog or digital. They all sounded sterile and like they would "feel" digital. I know its a subjective thing we are describing but I had a similar experience with my M9 and my friend's Helix. I just couldn't dial in satisfying distorted sounds with the M9 into the front of a tube amp or with the Helix on it's own. Clean tones with effects and mild break up were fine.

@mhoff7722 3 года назад

@@anotheryoutubed Not necessarily. I guess it depends on how the analog pedals were used. Then again we're talking about RU-vid compression, headphones, speaker simulation playing a factor etc.. I'm speaking to just the distortion/drive style pedals. I like the sound of an analog boost or drive pushing a tube amp. I personally don't care for the sound of the DS-1 at 3:31 and the Helix right after that for example. To me that sounds like a cheap pedal going into a clean amp making solid state distortion. There is a place for that kind of sound I just wouldn't have a use for it. Just one person's opinion. This also takes me down that rabbit hole of sound vs. feel which is very subjective lol. I have a modded DS-1 that sounds pretty good on its own compared to a stock, brittle off the shelf DS-1. I had to use mine at a gig through an EHX 20 watt pedal power amp once as a back up "rig" and it sounded fine to the crowd but the non responsive sterile feel while I was playing was horrible lol. It definitely felt digital! When it comes to the "feel" and response of distortion/drive that is not mixed with tubes, although they can sound good, the digital and solid state on their own feel lifeless and non responsive to me.

@ampcruz2540 3 года назад

@@mhoff7722 lol

@xlilxillx 9 месяцев назад

rat and fuzz face were the only ones that sounded different really. an hx effects 2 could easily fix this with more processing power and 192khz sampling rate

@davidsalinas4872 11 дней назад

I switched over to the helix in 2016 and never looked back. i still gig with a tube amp, effects only. No modeling. and I don't miss my maxon od+ , OCD, delay pedal, etc. imo most of it is in your fingers.

@jturquoise 11 месяцев назад

I prefer using external effects through my xl stomp. Sounds better.

@antonsaviozzi 4 года назад

Tbh I’m so happy with my HXFX, I also have original pedals, I use it as smaller rig. Can’t find a true univibe sound close enough to the real stuff. Anyone?

@MrTelecosta 4 года назад

Sounded great, but some emulations are a bit off and the original pedals sound better(some are really good like the TS). It’s a great unit no doubt.

@jumpingman8160 4 года назад

The Small Stone is close but no cigar. The original tends to overtake the signal, the HX doesn't.

@MrTelecosta 4 года назад

Jumping Man the small stone emulation is quite off actually. There’s something in the mids of the original that the emulation on the line 6 doesn’t quite get. Then again these old EHX boxes are all over the place, I had two big box memory man and both sound drastically different. I’m saying this because I don’t know what pedal Line 6 based it’s emulation on ( it could be even a reissue small stone for all I know).

@jumpingman8160 4 года назад

@@MrTelecosta yes they differ quite a bit to themselves. The big box Stone I had was great to play with Synths and String Machines, the HX rendition though in the ball park of what I remember, doesn't sound like it. The Stone I had masked the og sound quite a bit, the HX version lets the dry signal on and the phasing seems to just hang over it a bit [almost as if running in paralel or something].

@jasonswitzer1748 Месяц назад

I’ll also admit that the Line6 gets close… but it’s not the same. What’s the cost difference between owning these sweet pedals vs the line6? I think it basically boils down to how much are you willing to spend. The Line6. Ay be “good enough.” I’d love a mid-engine Ferrari, but a mid-engine will have to be “good enough” type deal (honestly though, who’s holding their nose when picking the latest ‘Vette? Probably could have picked a better analogy).

@xdoctorblindx 4 года назад

The RAT emulation sounded particularly horrible. I'm glad I bought a RAT before trying it in Helix; otherwise, I'd never know how amazing it sounds.

@nobodys.shapeshifter 4 года назад

The Rat is the only one that wasn’t passable. The others were at least close.

@xdoctorblindx 4 года назад

@@ncj73 Good to know!

@mrjsings 4 года назад

Clearly the Analog has a quality the Line 6 lacks, If you can hear the difference on Comp speakers then their will be a huge difference in the real world. The line 6 unit does capture the character of the analog units, but that's it. If you're looking for a small board and or playing in a cover band then the digital realm is for you. If you're doing something original and are looking to truly connect with something that shows up as inspiration, analog is the way to go.

@stefannita3439 4 года назад

The SD-1 and TS808 on the Helix sounded phenomenal. Y'all are bitching about the DS-1 model being bad but the actual physical analog DS-1 sounds like garbage anyway lmao

@hadeseye2297 4 года назад

I agree with DS-1.

@sendasantiguasgiddings 4 года назад

Your not wrong

@arscek 4 года назад

DS-1 is so bad that Satriani, Vai and many others used it for years in studio and live

@sendasantiguasgiddings 4 года назад

@@arscek Yes we are sure that it's on their board right now, aren't we? the only pedal that they own.....right.

@arscek 4 года назад

@@sendasantiguasgiddings what's your point? You're talking about another subject, not about the pedal's sound

@sendasantiguasgiddings 4 года назад

What I don’t understand about line6 is why make this one and the HX stomp? They are essentially the same and about the same price

@geokar16 4 года назад

The HX Stomp has got amp and cab simulations. This one doesn’t. It is for the guitarists who like the sound of their own amp

@sendasantiguasgiddings 4 года назад

@@geokar16 Ahhh makes sense now, thanks 🙏🏽

@wyattlauth1453 2 года назад

For me playing my hx stomp or analog pedals the biggest difference is in the compression of certain frequencies, resulting in a kind of filtered sound sometimes, and obviously usually less noise with the hx. Most effects are close enough to the originals to get the desired effect, and are probably even more desirable for recording. But I tend to use my analog effects for live sounds due to the more dynamic response and easier adjustment of settings. I don’t love using the hx knobs to tweak on the fly

@lematrix01 Год назад

For me the problem with all those emulations is the treble range around 3,5 to 7k. It always sounds to peaky and wrong.

@wolfganghuber3616 7 месяцев назад

The SD-1 was the only who really comes close with the HX Effects.That Phase90 for example sounds horrible in the digital version. My Opinion like always with Line 6 - Quantity, but not Quality.

@FLdb-wj4wc 4 года назад

In the video it sounds good but i had the hx effects and when you turn it on something bad happens to your tone. It's a tone suck. You loss some highs and the sound gets squashed. It happens before you even engage anything. You would never be able to tell playing in a bar but it was driving me crazy. Sold it. It was really easy to use and you can create a pedal board in 5 minutes. I wish it sounded better.

@Slothclawcolseslaw 4 года назад

I wish you still had it, you can change the input impedance. If you leave it set to auto, it will choose the impedance closest to the real version of the first pedal in your chain, which will stay even when the pedal is turned off. You can solve this by changing the input resistance setting from auto to 1 MOhm.

@janbrenner9488 3 года назад

This issue might change from amp to amp and if it is used 4CM or not. I use mine 4CM with a Boss Nextone Artist and there is almost no tone-suck at all.

@leandrobremer-music Месяц назад

On the Helix all effects sound either muddy or have no warmth or just like something you could recognize as that pedal but the real pedals simply sound beautiful. Digital still has a long way ahead unfortunately.

@jeffrysu09 Год назад

My friends whose job as guitarist for living said that he will always prefer pedals use than multieffect even the most expensive one as helix.. why? Because if you used helix, then you don't need fender / gibson, just an ordinary guitar is enough.. why? Because your fender / gibson will not much different in sound with Squier or Epiphone.. why? Because the sound mostly will come from the helix and not the guitar... That's my friend said.. Different case if you use pedals.. Your fender / gibson sound will be the dealbreaker one which could make the different..

@nobbynose4254 4 года назад

this unit is amazing I have one worth every cent

@djkolcun 4 года назад

Really appreciate this comparison - thank you!

@PramukoAji 4 года назад

Even the humble Boss DS-1 won against HX

@OniDasAlagoas 4 года назад

Exactly. If you know your sound, you should pick pedals. If you need something versatile to cover as many artist as possible, go for the simulators.

@sneifert1968 4 года назад

Oni das Alagoas That’s always been my mantra. If your in a cover band and need the versatility, go with digital modeling. If you want to develop a signature tone, analog and Tubes ( if you can afford the extra expense.)

@ShawnTheBassist369 2 года назад

my only worries about digital is it becomes obsolete so fast, what is the life span be for you need to repurchase the board

@KM-302 Год назад

I always find this type of comparison test irrelevant. The great advantage of these multi effects units is quality of sound and the many options. In reality, it's the feel and touch a video can't show. I spent a couple of weeks with a helix tweaking settings and thought I had it like for like with my pedalboard. Went back to my board, and it was night and day better to the feel. I will admit from an audience perspective, they'd notice no difference. I just wish they felt better to play!

@fragtagninja1633 4 года назад

The analog dirt pedals sounded better. Everything else was super usable, and sounded comparable IMHO. Possibly worth it for all the non dirt stuff on board. Could still save you big bucks.

@Zacharysharkhazard 4 года назад

Yeah that’s what my pedalboard looks like, I have an od, fuzz, distortion and reverb pedal and on top just a Boss ME-80 for modulations, compressors, delays, preamps, eq, presets, a volume/expression pedal, and all the other weird shit. In total my pedalboard’s definitely sub-$800, and I can get virtually any sound I want. Definitely the way to go ngl.

@morganghetti 4 года назад

You wouldnt be able to pick which one was which if they didn't tell you.

@slickcross 4 года назад

And this is why I will continue to play with my pedalboard and not get a Helix.

@eljinete666 4 года назад

im agree

@ledzeppelinqwe 4 года назад

Why?

@rocksteady9115 4 года назад

Exactly why I won't buy digital shite, helix, kemper, axe fx burnt the lot absolute crap

@ampcruz2540 3 года назад

@@rocksteady9115 well all your pedals are indeed digital circuits so what are u talking bout bro ???

@GNZLS-uhouho 7 месяцев назад

HX EFFECTS will solve all your problems without having to buy the actual device!

@manogyabishwakarma4107 4 года назад

After watching this video, I feel like I don't know what reality is anymore. I'm gonna get an HX soon, kudos to you guys for making this illustrative video.

@allidoisplay Год назад

that small stone tho 😍

@jakebarber7735 5 месяцев назад

Or get a Helix Floor and use it for everything but distortion and use analog distortion/fuzz pedals with the effects loops. At least thats what I do and it sounds rad

@rogerio_guitarist 4 года назад

I'm a bit disappointed. Most models sounded great, but a few sounded, well... digital/fizzy (I hoped not to repeat that cliché, but...). Very good value though.

@HankCScorpio 4 года назад

They all sound great, just like the originals. Impossible to tell in a mix.

@fluxahelmi 2 года назад

good video, thanks. love may analog pedals and tube amps,, modeling is too compressed and synthesizer like... don't like it..

@jkf9167 4 года назад

The OD, distortion and fuzz effects sounded great, but most of the modulation effects sounded comparatively weak to me. The chorus, phaser and trem FX immediately sounded a bit thin compared to the originals. But surprisingly, the Electric Mistress model sounded great.

@jr0706 2 года назад

I thought the drives sounded great till the DS-1 model.

@Prossdog 2 года назад

@@jr0706 the Rat was a good bit different too. Just seemed flat somehow. The overdrives and the Muff were almost indistinguishable.

@stephane406 2 месяца назад

Really a good sound effect, nice to hear it vs the pedals, just not convinced with the rat, but it's the only one.

@olsza6969 2 года назад

modulation similar. drives pedal more dynamic, delays both are ok

@shotgunrebels 4 года назад

This is the video I was looking for earlier this year! Thanks for the simple but effective comparisons.

@jasonplucas 2 года назад

Thanks for doing this, one of the best comparisons I’ve seen. Was interesting i much preferred the vox’s tremolo to the hx, also the phaser didn’t seem to have the definition of the pedal. But still overall can’t beat the versatility of this thing.

@xxxxneoxxxx 4 года назад

Simple. Sounds great.

@ssslayer Год назад

Can't understand why some models sound less sharp on Line6, but others are sounding nearly identical

@crisjohnalvarez6036 Год назад

Its like you hear the sound personaly and you hear the sound on television Sound artificial to me the hs stomp

@Theshark15z 2 года назад

This must be that good if Billy Corgan himself is using it.

@aaronchaffee1024 2 года назад

Actually liked the hx fuzz face over the original lol. Weird

@arkman117 4 года назад

I think for the first time ever, I might know what some of the purists are hearing, it’s hard to hear almost impossible on the delayed sounds, but especially in some of the distortions I noticed it, the voice is there, the tones accurate, sounds good, they all sound good, but there’s something else there, I think it’s probably that weird feeling you get when a mic is hot in the room there’s like a feel that you get in your ear even though there’s almost nothing playing it’s almost like an even pressure that, I’m not sure what to call it does anyone know what I’m talking about? It’s not a bad thing it’s just there the sounds feel like there’s some frequency that is held at a static flow or rate throughout the playback of the sound, it’s consistent, and with the other pedals it has a wavier feel, whatever it is, I’m no expert, ( maybe it’s just in my head to) again it sounds great I just noticed it and I’ve been sitting here for 30 mins trying understand what it is.

@G120-j6z 4 года назад

I think I might understand what you are getting at. It is very hard to explain, but the difference is there. The real effects have a more palpable, three dimension sound, the HD sound one dimensional, like some kind of life energy has been removed.. not sure if that is what you are hearing...