Many people are trying to evaluate lingsha on the basis of her team dmg increase, if you are trying to get the most out of any character a limited sustain is the last place you should look for. Limited sustains are primarily for comfort, their utilities are just a bonus. If you want the most dmg you should look out for supports, dps eidolons/lightcones.
As for Lingsha i disagree especially in her BiS Team. Lingshas E1 is a big Dmg increase in a Firefly Team since she already stacks Def Shred from Iron Cavalry. If you have Firefly,Ruan Mei and Lingsha E1 your FF getting a wopping 80% Def Shred. I would definitely agree on every other Scenario.
As far as i can tell. Gallagher's position in those robin 0 cycling arrangements is not going anywhere, and his flexibility too, but Lingsha has great versatility in a different way. As mentioned in the video, she can be used as a jade driver and is possibly the best sustain for content where there's mostly 5 enemies on the field. She's way more comfy as a healer with cleanses and heals across her entire kit, which can be very helpful if they start ramping up the damage output/speed of enemies like the Hoolay fight to pressure sustains. The bunny gives her some extra synergy with fua teams, and she is objectively the stronger choice on Firefly comps at e0, and only gets more powerful up to a 40% damage increase for the team at e1s1
One thing that should be noted though is that FF team is one of the easiest teams to go sustainless with due to FF self healing and RM/ITB having free chest and orb main stats, along with the action delays built into this team (FF cone, ITB delay, Ruan extension). With the rumored 5* limited Superbreak support coming it is possible that instead of replacing ITB you can opt for sustainless teams with said support and ITB.
@@td984exactly, that’s why a 4 star sustain was so sufficient for a long time, and not to mention they deal dmg when enemy is broken so enemy can’t even hit you during those time. With the help of Ruan Mei it’s hard for the enemy to even hit you
He will definitely join my Acheron Team. Unfortunately he will be just Decoration. in 90% of the Fights the Battle is already over before he even has the Chance to Ult and give Acheron Stacks 😅
Should be the other way around. FF appreciates having Gallagher more with QQP helping FF fill her ult gauge while in her Combustion state, and Gallagher can actually control his breaking capabilities so he wont steal from FF (esp with E2 FF), which in turn would be better overall DPS. On the other aide, Acheron team would appreciate the better healing Lingsha brings as opposed to FF/Break teams where enemies are broken of the time, so enemies dont take as much turn to deal damage
@@rv5938 QPQ is completely useless for Firefly she has a whopping 240 Ult Cost and regenerates 50% of her Energy on her own. Even IF you manage to land all QpQ Procs on FF during her combustion state thats not even close enough to bring her near 50% Energy so nonetheless she will need 2 Skills on her own to reach 100% energy again.
@@DantoriusD QPQ Gallagher is a legitimate way to make Firefly have 0 downtime on her ult once it expires because of how frequent Gallagher gets his turn. A LOT (like a MAJORITY of FF mains) use QPQ Gallagher because of it. Besides, you only need to fill up 40% of her gauge so she can keep her uptime (not to mention QPQ stops filling gauge once you're at least at 50% anyway).
@@rv5938 sory dude but i call BS. Please show me the LOT of FF Player who doing this. FF has 240 Ult Cost. She gets 60% by doing her own skill which is 144. Meaning you have to regenerate 96 Energy (-5 for Activating Ult) so 91 left. QPQ regenerates 16 Energy at S5. 91:16 =5,6 Turns. So you wanna make me believe you can fit almost 6 Gallagher Attacks during 4 Attacks of Firefly who already Outspeeds all of your Teammates. I give you the benefit of a Doubt because with some DDD Shenanigans,Windset....etc it can be Possible. BUT ON TOP of all that. ALL of Gallaghers QPQ Regens have to hit Firefly. You cant miss a single one of them. Sorry but absolute BS and you cant tell me "The majority" of FF users doing this Tech which is an absolute Gamble to rely on. Most Gallagher users i know who relatable 0 cycle MoC without 30 retries using What is real or even way better Multiplication.
She seems like a fantastic unit. But I only just recently got e6 Gallagher and spent all my jades on Robin and Feixiao, so no chance for me haha. I hope all lingsha wanters, shall be lingsha havers. Good luck with your pulls everyone!
I failed at huohuo and sparkle. So going to pull robin, next feixiao, though took 77 pull for feixiao and got that failed 50/50 aswell. For robin since i failed huohuo and sparkle rerun banner, 2x of 10 pulls finally get. Didn't expect there event before this lingsha like yesterday had to play the event for robin lightcone, rip jade. Was hoping gotten robin lightcone😢 since that atk % and regen too good to be used. I guess this banner had to skip and want to concentrate on adventurine to replace gepard(eventhough gepard really good)
@@seventwarior oooof. You're going to hate me, but yeah I did. Then I acidently pulled on Robins banner again, mistaking it for the light cone one and got her e1 in a single ten pull 💀
Giving you a tip as a top 1% firefly user Do not use HMC and RM's ult if it isn't inside of FF's turn, otherwise FF would consume a buff for a turn if your HMC and RM has watchmaker sets, Keep in mind, only do this if you don't plan to run any DDD on both of them
Idk exactly when he did that and i dont wanna watch the whole video again but if ure talking about the hmc ult at the start of wawe2 it was the eagle set for hmc to get ahead of ff and reduce toughness
i feel like top 1% ff would be running ddd, also break effect is so oversaturated on ff that it honestly doesn’t matter, especially on rm where her ult field uptime is far more important
Lingsha upside: Firefly can 0c without double ult cheese. Lingsha downside: Firefly can't double ult cheese with Lingsha. At least Lingsha can actualy sustain your team outside of break compositions.
her healing IS much better, but i've never had any issues sustaining my non-break teams with gallagher on manual either. on auto, on the other hand... yeah.....
Who cares if she can or cannot sustain outside of break, unless you have a very new account and don’t have other sustains? Her niche is break, and if she’s barely better than a free 4* it means she (at this very moment) is not a very valuable unit.
I use Gallagher with the same build in my FuA team, with acheron and with my imbibitor team. So the sustain outside of break is not a problem to begin with
@@leedevee Do you pull for every single limited sustains? Because the data shows that most people skipped their banners in favor of the shiny new DPS, and there have been no exception to this (even Huohuo & Aventurine). In other word, flexibility is VERY important because most people don't pull for sustains.
@@AevyCh I agree with you about unit felxibility but most players at this point already have 2 or more limited sustains so they'd only roll for sustains which are significant upgrades to certain team comps. Aventurine was a big boost to FUA teams since there is no other FUA centric sustain like him (on top of just being generally a busted sustain) but Lingsha on the other hand is a slight improvement over a 4 star alternative most have. She's not as bad as some make her out to be but she really seems like a luxury pull.
i want to her with boothill, considering that a sustain with him is more feasible, i think gallagher sp positive gameplay is more valuable but i might be wrong
Feel like Lingsha, while marketed towards break carries will end up being the "staple sustain" of 3.0. Like Luocha, I feel like she does really well vs enemies that are slow and hit hard, procing that emergency bunny and giving time to heal: I feel like a shift in the enemy meta is coming soon to push out aventurine, we might see more heavy hitting enemies soon. (blade mains rejoice)
blade prefers light hitting enemies as they deal damage more frequently, aventurine is way better at dealing with "heavy hitting" enemies as he is literally a shielder while for lingsha, your team has to be full health to actuall sustain that damage and pray your emergency bunny isn't on cd
@@thisperson8315 ok the blade one makes sense (that’s my bad, he also prefers fast hitting enemies that inflict dot) but aventurine does NOT like heavy hitters, he prefers quick and fast AoE hits that deal low-medium damage (like hoolay) to proc his FuA because he can’t gain stacks after the shield disappears.
I did a Firefly zero-cycle on Kafka and it took a lot of retries. Too much rng with the QPQ, very high SPD requirements and Firefly has to deal more damage than usual coz my HMC is on DDD and ERR relics and my Gallagher is only E3
Man I got her, definitely good but not by much vs an E6 Gallagher.. She's DEFINITELY COMFIER.. like very comfy. But for Firefly should be E1... otherwise you run into some SP problems. cuz u want your HMC to be always spamming that ult ready. She's a good unit for a bad player. Otherwise Gallagher works perfectly. IF you want her to be better than Gallgher you might wanna pick E1. it's kinda nutty. Just a realization, we're getting a new break support. so if you keep that in mind, Firefly/Boothill/Rappa + Ruan Mei + HMC + (NEWSupperbreaksup) is probably going to be the best in slot rather than Lingsha. Cuz Ruan Mei and HMC can be built with HP and Def% stats without loosing on utility.. And with that in mind, stunning enemies with break and stalling with Ruan Mei Ult. I think Superbreak sustains are going to be benched lol.
For potentially 25 thousand jades (160 pulls) she is not Even close to worth it , the difference is too small Even where she peforms the Best (ff team) and she is worst on any Robin team
A minor discrepancy I noticed is that on this private server the extra toughness from Fuyuan seems to target the mech elite as priority While in the official servers it targets Kafka
If no Ratio rerun for 2.6, then I might pick her up, as she could be good for a Feixiao or Ratio team depending on what's needed due to her FUA. More options are always good.
tbh feixiao and ratio actually don’t really need fua. Ratio relies moreso on debuffs which gallagher gives 1 more than vs Lingsha. Feixiao from what i’ve seen actually relies moreso on attack frequency than fua, usually fua have a high attack frequency which is why she’s so often paired with them. Gallagher when built properly actually has a very high attack frequency that can definitely help a lot with stacking feixiaos ult (Lingsha can do the same too probably to an easier extent vs gallagher). The only characters that actually NEED follow ups from what i recall is Topaz since numby gets advanced by 50% whenever a follow up is triggered.
@@SUPERsourbum I know all that, Gallagher is usually the one I use for Ratio when I'm not using Aventurine. And I know Feixiao doesn't need her either. but a Followup attacker would be better for Feixiao as I'd plan to run Topaz/Feixiao/March with a Sustainer And the other team would be Ratio/Robin/Aventurine/Moze. I don't need Lingsha, she'd just be nice to have and since I'm not really interested in Rappa on my Main; if there's no Ratio Rerun that is a dead patch for me, so I might as well pick up a Lingsha
you only need 2 limited sustain unit (for current endgame mode), my account is day 1 account and i only had 2 sustainer huohuo and aventurine but can clear all content, so depend if you really need sustain right now then lingsha (skip aventurine and focus to aim for support and dps in the future) but if you can be patient aim for aventurine
Im general you should be building HuoHuo because she's a pseudo harmony unit and a healer. Huohuo is just a really good character in general. Also it depends on what tou want to do after that. Aventurine has the best shield in the game and can work in fua teams, but lingsha has an actual cleanse which most preservation units don't have. Personally I'm pulling for lingsha because i like break teams, she can also work in a fua team, and i just find actual cleanses more useful that high effect res. But if neither of those are your fancy you can always just wait for Fu xuan and stop taking damage all together. Fu xuan is broken as hell and i need to get a copy of her even if I'll already have HuoHuo and Lingsha.
@@rioshin8209 100% agree with this. 1. if you play this game ur technically ever only going to use 2 sustains. Like literally. 2. if you have HuoHuo definitely build her. AOE energy is kinda cracked 3. In M0C or cycle clearing, You can just go NO SUSTAIN and get 3* so Sustains are kinda just there for things like Divergent universe or Apocalyptic shadow.. 4. Sustains are kinda optional units cuz there's no survival end game only get X amount of points or X amount of cycles. 5. Just pick / pull the top 2 sustains that you really like (Design/Lore wise) 6. I still use Lynx and gallagher I still clear all content 3* without any issues even on AUTO 7. In the end it doesn't fall into SUstains but to your MAIN DPS and SUPPORTS (Robin,Ruan Mei, Sparkle)
@@leedevee she lacks emergency healing and if not e1, some skill point management which isn't the comfiest that's why she couldn't beat him in the comfy contest and also she doesn't heal as much
@@BailuGaming Lingsha’s emergency health is weird. It has a 2 turn cooldown just like Luocha but an ally needs to get hit again for it activate while Luocha’s activates automatically after the cooldown. So if you have someone low during a high one-shot skill, Lingsha might not proc for them which is a bummer. It also has a higher hp threshold of 60% vs Luocha’s 50% where most hp%eating dpses sit at like for Blade.
but why did you not skill on HMC to reduce the toughness further? less toughness=more SB dmg. you could've targeted the wolf and let the bounces hit Kafka, 6% is easily doable.
ah makes sense, maybe you could've used skill on one of the elites instead of mob. this would probably allow HMC to not need to skill to have enough dmg. not having HMC's ult for the 1st skill wouldn't make much difference as the SB dmg on the 1st skill is almost 0. anyway nice clear! this clearly shows that lingsha is wayy better for 1st wave.
Lingsha is one of chars (alongside with Topaz, Jiaoqiu, etc.) who’s: - good/broken in “all e0 5 star” system - mid in cost system (u should rather getting FF e1, e2, bis, and RM e1 first before considering her, cost efficient wise)
didn't watch the video but i'm sure gallagher wins since he deals a gazillion damage everytime he superbreaks and generates infinite skill points, in conclusion skip lingsha she's mid
@@cleod7439 you know firefly e2 procs both on break or kill right? If an enemy weakness bar is so little as to let lingsha steal the break then FF will kill them anyway and activate the e2
@@MarcQuimmahe did that so he brings down kafka’s bar down before firefly’s turn. That’s how FF Superbreak is played Spending the first turn of the second wave reducing toughess bar with FF when your supports could have done it is basically a 100% dps loss
@@sev559the actual misplay here is using wind set on HMC. HMC needing a turn before FF isn't needed at all because Gal ult+EBA into FF skill will break Kafka unlike Lingsha who needs the extra HMC hit. More BE from watchmaker would be more useful.
@@MartianMage Mei already had watch maker so that was already covered. HMC going before firefly allowed him to bring Kafka down to the last bit of toughness for maximum superbreak+break damage while HMC also getting a 3rd action in the cycle. Small note: PS is buggy otherwise firefly wouldn’t need extra help from Lingsha’s turn to break kafka(but it’s still the best play for this fight strategy)
@@MartianMage During the second wave he only had 1 turn without the watch maker buff which is not enough to make up the deficit in the HP for 0 cycling 161 spd and 2 DDD procs alone doesn’t get you a 3rd action in wave 2 you can see he barely got into the cycle after the second Ult. The strategy to 0 cycle this fight with gallagher requires higher speed on firefly. There was no damaging misplays for this setup. It’s an optimised 1 cycle
It's very hard to 0 cycle with FF e0s0 + gallagher. If lingsha can do that, she will be definately better. But remember this is only for 0 cycle content, 1 cycle doesn't hurt anyone. Beside that, Lingsha is very comfy for many situations. This is her main value, not only for FF team. Gallagher healing is just enough for players know the game well. Lingsha should be better for casual players. And final point, my personal, fck gallagher, I am playing my waifu game
Outgoing Heal is 0,0% and her BE only 111% and using QpQ LC it's pretty clear me to me that you have no IDEAS how to build Lingsha with well. Luckily this showcases ended up pretty well with RnG in your sides.
1. Outgoing healing is near useless given how much she heals, just use any piece with the best subs 2. almost all of her relics have BE subs, BE rope or ERR rope is upto preference 3. Her QpQ let me run Ruan mei at 100% uptime
