There's a lot of goalies on the market between Ullmark, Gibson, Gustavsson, Markstrom, and Saros. I wouldn't give up the 7th overall pick unless I was getting Saros in return.
Free Agency could cover that for the Senators, Trade for the Goalie and clear some cap room, then get the defenseman in the free agency for Fowards and Defensemans
As a Bruins fan, I don't know…there are a lot of trades to make with Ullmark; this one with Ottawa, with Canes for Nečas, maybe cook with LA again, I've seen trades with Jersey (Holtz/+Mercer), if the stars are aligned right we might trade with Oilers (RNH most probably) or, maybe, even Draisatl (I'm delusional xd) and who knows what else could Sweeney cook. Out of all these trades, I'd say this one (Ottawa) is like third-fourth option to go. This is a trade where we have the most valuable asset, I don't mind giving up more for someone even more valuable (Drai, maybe Nečas not sure about his value) so if it takes Ulli, Merkulov/Carlo/Lysell, some draft picks to get player like Drai🤷♂️ Hate to be the guy, but sorry for the grammar😅 proud Czech here🇨🇿
I would think Carlo is untouchable.. best D on Bruins. Ullmark trade I suppose only if Bruins get something more valuable.. otherwise it is worth just keeping him. I definitely would not mind seeing the Nuge in Boston..
Forget about Draisaitl. He's just about to go off the proverbial cliff. You don't want to overpay for someone on the back nine. If we trade Ullmark it needs to be for an up and coming center. Maybe Necas...
At some point whether your Ottawa Buffalo Columbus Utah. You gotta start trading draft picks to immediately make your team better. I get it there high picks but you have had high picks for a long time and can’t get out the basement. At some point you have to
I have absolutely no issue with trading pick 25, in fact I think we should trade it for immediate help because a late first isn't going to help us in the long run. #7 is a must keep imo.
You don't. You can keep drafting guys until you start getting results. Then you can start moving guys. Hell look at Montreal. They've literally had soo many picks the last three years they are running out of nhl contracts and they still aren't just trading all of their picks. Nor should they.
@@exturkconner Montreal has only been drafting low for three years cause they blew it up. Montreal isn’t in the same boat they’ve been trading the whole time to bring in potential guys about to bloom so they can turn the corner. Montreals gm will be trading draft picks and prospects that don’t fit there system. Look at all the teams mentioned they’ve been drafting high for a lot longer than three years and they suck.
No way in god’s green earth the Bruins pull a package like that for a 30 year old with 1 year left on his contract. Wpg wasn’t offered anything near that for Hellybuck last year
For the love of GOD it’s pronounced Chic-krun. Jakob Chychrun (/ˈtʃɪkrən/ CHIK-rən; born March 31, 1998) Not how you say it. I stop watching any video of yours with his name associated.
As a Sens fan I would love Ullmark but I’m not giving up those assets for one year. We’ve been burned too much acquiring Cat and Chyc for the short term
Sens just acquired Ullmark, we fleeced the Bruins. We got rid of Korpisalo (25%retained) and didn't loose out 7th pick or have to trade any of our core. For your concern it not going to happen. The Sens made sure to have an extension agreement before they made the trade. We will have to wait until after Canada Day to find out what it is. Last I heard was 5 years at 7 million
The Bruins have their D-corps pretty well-set. The top pairing is 100% not going to be Chicyrun, we have a potential future #1 defenseman, and another potential #1 D man as our second pairing left shot (Hampus Lindholm). 7th overall pick? Maybe. Team does need those, but I think 1) It's thought that all Canadian teams are likely on Ullmark's no trade list 2) Bruins have zero needs on defense now. It's all about scoring and specifically centers. I doubt the Senators would trade Brady Tkachuk for Ullmark, and I'm really not so sure there is much else the Bruins would be interested in from Ottawa, even if it were possible to trade Ullmark to a Canadian team
Overpaying for a goalie is not really a bad thing if that goalie is a good one. Let's be honest.. would anyone trade 2 first for Dominck Hasek in his prime right now? If you find one that can carry a team... goalie is the one position that a star can carry a team...
@@lordaathras No, he's not but he's still pretty damn good.. Hasek level.. who is.. the closest I can say is Ken Dryden and even that's a tough comparison as they played in different Eras.. and with Vastly different skill level teams.. Hasek took an average team to the finals.. Dryden took one of the greatest to mulitple cups... and funny, he took time off.. and they didn't get to the finals.. still were good though. Ullmark is still worth a pretty penny. He helped the sabres to respectiblity even though the rest of the team was lacking.. sadly he left just as the sabres started getting better...
Ottawa wouldn't give up that much.A smarter move would be to try to move Korpisalo to Toronto for Samsonov.Then try to move Chychrun,Forsberg,and Kubalik,plus a first for Ulmark.
Swaymen has always been the goaltender for the Bruins' future. It was never Ulmark, he was acquired for insurance purposes and it turned out to be a pretty good move. Ulmark is the real deal for any team, especially a team like Ottowa or Buffalo. Seventh overall pick for Ulmark! I'll pack his bags for him. He has to be more flexible with the no-trade clause he currently has. I can see his point not wanting to be dealt at the trade deadline, him being a family man and all.
That's too much for Ullmark. He is good and would be a huge upgrade. But it's too pricey. Ullmark w 1 year left for Chychruns q year straight up seem fair.
If I were the Sens I should be desperate. Because if we all claim and can accept that our goalies are just not performing to there standards why wouldn't you get Ullmark?
Some teams would be better off with a great goalie coach - Bob Essensa has developed nothing but elite goalies for the Bruins for well over a decade. Bruins were throwing other elite goalies away. They had similar thing with centers.. but that definitely dried up recently.
If the Sens trade Chychrun to Boston, and Ullmark is part of the return, I wouldn't hate it. If it was a 1-for-1 trade. There is no need for Ottawa to include a Top 10 pick and another selection, especially with the Dadonov fiasco costing Ottawa a 1st in either 2025 or 2026.
Ullmark is only on his current contract for 1 more year then he goes wherever he wants. If Sens give their 7th round pick away again, they gave a 7th round pick away to acquire Debrincat, that cost them Korchinski with Chicago. They also gave away a 12th overall pick to acquire Chychrun in last year's draft, the 13th overall was Benson selected by Buffalo. I could imagine the temporary fix, if you will, becomes an absolute Disaster. Remember, Sens keep giving away to acquire Murray, Talbot, and Korpisalo, not to forget Gustavsson.
So, the Sens would be expected to offer up the equivalent of 3 first rounders + for Ullmark? You'd have to have smoked your breakfast to believe that would be worth that.
Ottawa is my second favorite team behind Vancouver, ullmark for chyrun and a first could be worth it but not the 7th and Ottawa still loses one due to the dadanov soo I don’t think it’s worth it
@@sylv.486 I know they were but it was stronger 2 years ago. Now Lohrei has shown enough, it's why he started over gryz, forbert and shatty in the playoffs. We can develop him to be better than Chychrun. And I've got a simple question, if he was that good then why would Ottawa want to move him? It's a lowball offer for Ullmark imo. I'd rather have Chabot or Pinto, but if I'm GM I'm going for the best player in the trade so I'm going after Brady or Stutzle and giving them parts including Ullmark.
Are you on glue? Goalies aren't worth that much. Way too volatile. Chychrun alone at that sweetheart co tract is already great value. To even consider any trade, Ulmark would have to do a sign and trade, or he has near zero value as a rental
the return for Ullmark is going to be SO underwhelming, he has a 15 team no trade list and pending ufa at the end of next season. A first round pick is laughable, you're getting a 2nd at most.
Of course the Bruins would be all over that. Take the 1st rounder off of that proposal and maybe Ottawa Bites. Ullmark will likely end up going for far less than that overly optimistic deal.
Why would Ottawa go after Ullmark who is a free agent next year. This is a cap dump for Boston who need cap room to improve their offence. 6mil each to Debrusk and Swayman leaves only 8mil to fill up the roster. Maybe for Giroux who would be a great fit for Boston especially if they can not get Lindholm.
Boston fan here. We cant give up Ullmark for anything less than a true #1 C. Anything less amd weve fumbled the bag. We dont want draft picks either we are still a few pieces away from a cup run.
Ullmark doesn't fit whatever the "window" for the Sens' core would be. He's not going to be a Vezina calibre goalie in Ottawa, and he probably will never be that good again. Chychrun + 7th would be too much to give up for a goalie who doesn't fit with the fact that this team would be ready to compete for at least 2-4 years. Only way the Sens (should) trade for Ullmark is if the Bruins allow themselves to be fleeced for him.
I don't think Chychrun at his cap hit isn't an asset. You have to give up a something to move on from that guy. And that doesn't accomplish anything Boston needs to accomplish with moving Ullmark. Which is they need to potentially free up cap space to get a 1c in free agency, or package him towards a 1c in trade. You barely save any cap and you don't add to a position of need you add to a position of strength. Boston's dcore is good. I don't think I'd want Chychrun on the team taking reps from Lohrei or Wotherspoon. As far as Ullmarks value. He's an elite goalie. He's been top 10 in every major goalie category in each of the last three seasons. Won the Vezina by a landslide, and isn't making a stupid amount of money. Ullmark is an asset. So why would Boston take on a Chychrun cap dump and give away Ullmark for just a couple picks? That is exceptionally dumb. If I'm trading Ullmark to Ottawa I want Pinto. 100%.
Bruins don't need Chychrun nor do they need a 7th overall pick at this point. They need someone to help now in the scoring dept. A more realistic target would be Pinto along with some futures.
