Linux Mint 22 Beta 

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Could you tell me what did you find impressive about this update ?

@@wikwayer honestly just having used it its very stable and polished. I haven't encountered bugs with the beta so far

this is the version with the fewest changes than it is interesting or useful. .

@@diuran1919 you're not wrong, though alot of the changes are under the hood quality of life improvements.

Same here. I use my PC for gaming and movies, with a bit of authoring short books here and there. I only keep Windows around for a handful of triple-A games and use Linux for retro and indie games and movies along with my usual PC stuff.

i'm a power user, a software engineer, i work all day every day on my computer. my UI is thoroughly and extensively customized.

@@natejennings5884 I still use Windows 10, primarily for gaming on Steam. When Steam (or game dev's) find a way to start writing their games for consumption on Linux natively, I will be on Linux almost all of the time.

I generally turn off Screensaver but LM22 still "saves the screen". Otherwise, not problems with this version on bare metal.

Smart man. I'm waiting for this to become an actual release, then it's going on my tower. Trying to get away from Windows, but I'll wait for all the bugs to be gone before I'll do anything to a working computer.

Lmde would probably be more up your alley then although Linux Mint any version. Is usually the perfect happy medium versus dealing with bleeding edge distros that always have the newest whatever

you can update from 21.3 to 22.x it’s been confirmed by the linux mint team

lmde 7 will come with debian 13, so it'll be another 1-2 years at least

Wow, thanks for sharing this! Will definitely avoid those distros.

MX Linux and AntiX are pretty far to the left side of things too.

​@@CaptainYourselfisn't MX neutral? i know the antiX guys work on it but i haven't seen statements directly by MXLinux

@@noot1337 Exactly, the devs work on both. So I don’t trust or support either, regardless if they haven’t made the same public statements or inserted the same c*mmun*st links in the browser as they do on AntiX.

@@noot1337 Since they are the same devs, I’m going to not trust or support them, certainly not with my OS.

Mint is forking GTK3 to keep it alive. GTK4 (especially libadwaita) is very GNOME-centric and makes pretty much zero effort to make it a good experience on other DEs

@@mgord9518 But is that smart? Forcing GTK3 to stay around? Are we sure GTK4 isn't "better"? And even if GTK4 is worse, what if everyone else pushes GTK4, how long do "we" want to keep GTK3 on life support before we have to give up on everything, because we stuck by our guns for years?

@@Jammet 1: Is GTK4 better? If not, why should it be adopted if it brings nothing but less customization? 2: What "everyone" does doesn't really matter. GTK3 apps can easily be themed to fit into a GTK4 environment, the other way around isn't really feasible. As long as GTK3 is actually maintained and secure, there is no good reason to move away from it 3: It gets replaced when it makes sense. For GTK2, the primary issue was scaling. Do we have an issue of such magnitude with GTK3 that justifies its replacement? Maybe in the future we'll need to target VR or something that is too difficult to adapt GTK3 to, in which case it may justify an upgrade.

@@mgord9518 I'm not really concerned with it being better or worse, but with it being mass adopted. It actually does matter what most people pick under certain circumstances, if Linux Mint means to stay on-top of things, is my belief anyway. You're asking all the right questions but the thing is, choices will be made *for* us, not with us, sometimes. I'm just worried here. Worried that at some point in time, there could be regrets about not using GTK4 and working with that, in some way.

@@Jammet It's certainly not a decision without risks, but I think it's worth it to fight GNOME's influence over the design of the Linux desktop. Like I said before, GTK4 is not a general-purpose toolkit like the versions before it. It's completely GNOME-oriented and if desktops want their own personality, they should not adopt it. So 2 things can happen. Either A: Linux mint is seen as "dated" for this decision and people move away from it Or B: It sets a precedent and other DEs will feel safe in relying on GTK3, hopefully quarantining GTK4 to GNOME and friends.

Not only that, I'm surprised that they don't have multi-display wallpapers packaged in. I like for ONE wallpaper to be used across all 3 of my displays.

Would I venture a guess that you only speak, read and write in only 1 language?

That is a Linux problem period. I have to constantly use disks or ntfsfix to repair my NTFS drives.

I too had issues (on many distros) might be time to just start migrating to ext4 if you can. I understand if you're still using windows that might not be an option

You could try raising an issue on the LM22 Beta bug reporting page

Once I dumped Windows, I reformatted other drives to ext4, which conveniently solves that issue for me.

@@tonywise198 did you have problems moving files from ext4 to ntfs? I noticed many times directory and files can’t move and get error messages due to file name had illegal characters. I had all my files in ntfs as storage. I might have to change file system for them. My fear is that I have about 4 tb on ntfs hdd and files are corrupted or directories don’t get transferred when moving from ntfs to ext4

Ich hoffe du hast Spaß beim Lernen und nutzen der deutschen Sprache. 🥰

You could just install LMDE and remove all the graphical programs

I agree that some Flatpaks are ridiculous in size, but who in their right mind would want to use Chrome anyhow?

yes, that is indeed nasty, i try to avoid chrome as much as possible..... i use firefox, however firefox take a lot of space as well, but the installer is at least under 200MB.

Wait for it to be tested a bit

Wait a few weeks after the full release then upgrading is probably fine.

Cool! I will have a look.

The one I'm seeing has a 2.7* rating, yikes.

@@atlantic_love its not the flatpak one. Its a system package

Sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop

@@Milena-ix5mq I know. Just pointed out that I miss it officially supported

@@e002840 I never knew it was supported in the first place 😕 welp, I don't really use Mint, but I also feel disappointed now

I did not mess with them in this video. Please check the previous video, where I clearly demonstrate and error with the actions sorting. Even though the save button is pressed, it still did not adjust the menu accordingly.

Pika is not designed for a system recovery or system backup is designed for personal data backup versus time shift is designed for system restore not designed for personal data backup Each software tool has its pros and cons. But it is important to understand what your backing up and what's the best tool for the job

@@motoryzen that's a great point, thanks for the nugget

As a long time Windows user who just switched to Linux Mint 3+ weeks ago I think Cinnamon looks fine. Granted, there are more fancy looking desktops out there for Linux, but it is functional and not that hard to adjust to your liking. Windows has not had a consistent UI since the Windows XP days and Windows 11 is way too strict in terms of customisation to be usable for me. The fact that it forces the bottom taskbar to stay there makes it absolutely useless for my ultra-widescreen that I use the sides of the screen to attach my software. For certain software I need the taskbar out of the way as to not obstruct the UI, but Windows 11 is not designed for modern screen dimensions by forcing things on to the user. It's for good reason I've stayed on Windows 10. Mint may look more 2010s in style, but there is enough customisation that you at least find something you like more or less. If there is a demand to make the GUI more modern then the devs at least seem to be willing to adapt.

​​@@Frozen_Death_Knight I think cinnamon desktop is great too. Easy to customise and not to over the top I remember when I first switched to linux and was recommended ubuntu granted it worked ok but I could never get used to the unity desktop it give me mac os vibes but once I started using linux mint I've never looked back I use the debian edition now. Hope your transition went well

@@LinuxLoader1287 Yeah, for the most part. Though it would have been a lot smoother if 22 had already been released, haha. The biggest issue I had was with audio production, or audio at all for that matter. My Roland Super UA-S10 audio interface just didn't work whatsoever and I had to manually install Pipewire and Wireplumber for my audio server to make it work, which was hard to find any info about. Ripping out the old system for the one that is going to be shipped in 22 made my audio hardware work flawlessly on Mint, which would have saved me several hours of trying to troubleshoot things. At least it works now, which is a lot better than it not working at all. I've had bumps on the road, but most have been manageable. The only real showstopper left is having Affinity/Adobe art and image editor software to work properly on Linux and sadly that is the biggest gap left that I need to fill by dual booting to Windows 10 still. I really hope there will be a viable solution soon. :)

I had trouble with my second monitor... Hdmi and Linux don't mix well. When installing the grafic software I had to use the open source one, the nvidida doesn't work.

Another one who doesn't understand Linux and BSD!

Downplaying the security of your PC can be easy until the day you sit there trying to salvage whatever you can as you lose control over your entire system. Of course there's also personal responsibility involved, but if you're able to prevent a lot of headaches by having some simple barriers for the average Joe, then it is worth it if you ask me.

​@@DCM777. And your input is useful?

​@@Frozen_Death_KnightI do get it, but at what point is it enough? If a bad actor wants in, short of never connecting to the Internet it's not stoppable. Linux doesn't have very good antivirus to begin with, and since everything is mostly open source assuming you get it from the source where does the unnecessary risk start?

@@squat224 Yup.

"...but then I grew up" Bruh. Coming from an Arch guy who doesn't go around flexing it or talking down to people for not using it, get over yourself. Whether we run a more obscure or "complicated" (in terms of setup/maintenance) distro or not doesn't make us special. Mint is one of the most sensible distros out there with plenty of legitimate use cases where you'd want or need a "just works" system that requires basically no intervention ever and has virtually no risk of breaking with updates, however long you wait. (i.e. a parent or grandparent's computer, a server/HTPC, a work computer that can't afford downtime, etc.) Its simplicity and resultant reliability are strengths, not weaknesses, and someone who chooses to run it over Arch or OpenSUSE or whatever for their own reasons is no less mature or capable inherently than those of us that run those for whatever reasons we might have.

Scheduled for Mint 23 I think, maybe 24.

Wayland is still experimental. You can test it if you like.

@@SwitchedtoLinux yeah I did, nowhere near ready, simply not an option for me right now

Well of course Weiland is not ready yet in Linux mint. Clem and his team even said themselves before mint beta 22 even launched that it wouldn't be ready for at least another year if not longer. Waylon's not even ready and other distros yet Siri there are still some basic pieces of functionality that don't even work

I don't know how many more times I have to post this comment before stupid Google RU-vid will finally show it but here tries a third time. Of course Wayland is not ready yet in Linux Mint. Clem and his team even said so themselves that it would not be ready for prime time machines for at least another year if not longer Waylon isn't even radio on other distros if you want to get technical because there are still some basic pieces of functionality that don't yet work in Wayland

I'm also not a green person. Not my color. Never liked the green either. Glad we are getting a variety of colors.

@@jschudel777 I am also quite pleased with the variety of colors. Linux Mint has really become super solid. When first-time linux users ask me for a distro recommendation, my defacto response is always Linux Mint. 👌

Matter of opinion. I like it. I use Mint on 3 PCs at home and it's not modded.

I like the clean look.. only problem is the Firefox icon in the taskbar. Sooooo ugly

For me I use the elegance theme, ultra flat icons and transparent panels to make it look beautiful.

​@Петар1xfce suck i love cinnamon its like windows

​@@Vlado709xfce suck i like cinnamon look like windows