Lisa Van Allen on R. Kelly Relationship, Aaliyah, Trial (Flashback) 

Oh but it did lol just been exposed she was not underage when she met rkelly

@@thompthomp right the girl lying so much she didn't even want to show up the next day to be cross examined 🤥

this is a completely different story than what's on Netflix. Hella holes in her story.

​@@thompthompshe didn't say she was underage

I ain't fall for ish at 12 let alone 17. 🥴 And she was way more grown than the average 17 year old. Taking flights whenever

The “Peehive” don’t see anything wrong with what he did to those women.

@@shiabutterfly8361 Exactly 17 is damn near an adult

@@ryanworks1541 yes they just want to make excuses.

@@christinajones7696 100% accurate!

This b knew what R Kelly was doing .She rape the little gi try l B with him.She took the tape with the child and R Kelly .Gave it to somebody to leak ! Lock her ass up with R Kelly. Stop making excuses for this b,

Yea'' just make sure u buy the many plugs. She can always say no ' in Scotland a grown ass adult at 16. But in states theres a victim mentality. " aw feel for me 'buy my books. After the days of acting how to look so pitifully in front of potential buyers 'WAKE UP U S .

Dignified? She spent over an hour saying she watched abuse for years, engaged in extortion, and knowingly admitting to threesomes with minors. Not once did she take personal accountability for her actions.

I agree. ​@@d.rabbit7276

No body touching jay foo

She should be in jail as well.

@Nevin Reid, @eddiemclaughlin, @Bigbusiness, She is the biggest Liar, I have done commentary after commentary on this R Kelly case, you guys are guillible she was kicked out the last trial for prejury. She is a thief. PEOPLE PLEASE don't believe people because their cute or speak a certain way. SHE IS LYING>

And her

😂 She told yall she went through the tapes and found one with her and took it and gave it to one of his Artist who was being treated bad 😂😂😂😂. They found out about the tape and she called the guy and r kelly just offered 250k. 😂😂😂😂💀

Exactly. She has a lot of guilt. That’s why she never speaks of her daughter.

One of which according to Kelly was sleeping with Aliyah's mom, as well as the daughter.

Please elaborate. Tge uncle was againts this? I dont know enough of the story.

That woman cold 🥶❄️ her mom said not a thing

Yo search . I can’t think by paid killa . & thank me later . Ladies if yu ever been cheated on. Beat . Lied to insecure and that perfect side dude cum along . Bro drop one for you

Que the public announcement...

Didn't Vlad interview R. Kelly's ex-wife? She's always emotional in all of her interviews and rightfully so.

@@kenterminateddq5311 no

@@BigWilt2000 I would like to see VLAD TV interview Andrea Kelly (ex-wife). I am sure she has a smile on her face.

No doubt there are many young girls and boys victimized at very early ages.

Not all people are evil, these are sick people that look for an opportunity to abuse children.

They were usually abused themselves. Not all sex addicts are molesters, but all molesters are sex addicts, that have crossed the line.

I hope she realizes that there's help in codependents anonymous and ACA. They're 12-step programs and they're free. You have to be careful with counselors, because some of them are traumatized themselves and not getting help. They can do more damage than help. The thing about the 12 steps is it is it's run by peers and we're all equals.

I didn’t know anything about her being abused from the age of 4????!!!!!

How is she courageous. She was with Kellz for 10 years. Stole his Rolex and extorted him. She lied about not knowing Drea and she was 18 when she met Kellz not 17.

@@malcolmxpanther Exactly!!! Tell this goofy azz, fake Brian McKnight todo his homework next time

Absolutely 💯

u freakin creep u will b poor stay tuned

Yet talking once the money stopped

And they trying to say Women are destroying the black families over money. But men use money as bait, their car, dresses up, talk about themselves as a third person young women fall for it the next day he's gone. Now if a woman makes more money and is educated she's call masculine, nope hvw can't be controlled and men know that. They have know leverage, can't control an educated mind. Stay strong sistahs.

She could have left

Yes very much disturbing and many of these comments probably from other predators coming to his defense. This is how the majority treats victims and that’s why they fail to come forward plus that’s why predators look for girls at this age bc they are naive and vulnerable especially when they don’t have a good upbringing.

@@celiamartinez3 I know plenty that didn’t have good upbringing that didn’t run off willingly with a man twice there age!!! He could have been on his 20th year in prison had people not turned a blind eye!!! The parents just as sick sold their kids for $$$$ everyone should go to jail!!!! Including Drea Kelly and Jay z

She is not a victim at ALL she just mad he moved on she is bitter because she was wasn't a real victim

@@madelineoney9402 nope

I think the fact that she was sexually abused as a child has something to do with it.

I hope she gets healing too, and because she's worth it.

It's happy to see underage girls get exploited, so young. As a society, we really need to look at the messages that we're giving these young girls.

She's so honest.

I believe she has self-esteem issues and worth issues.

True

Yup 👍🏼

She’s been speaking for decades! 🤦 Is that honestly your greatest take away from this entire mess? Not disgusted by the sex offender who was preying on your girls? Seriously dude?

It’s hard not to think otherwise

@@IHYC678 she ain't been speaking up for decades...quit cappin. She was a willing participant for decades.

🌋🌋🌋🌋Vlad exploits black peoples trauma he does not do great work. He meanders to his own Jewish whilst exploiting our trauma!!🌋🌋🌋🌋

Take responsibility stop blaming other people. He ain't have a hold on nobody

The legal age of consent in Illinois was 17 at the time, unless the older party was in a position of authority over minors such as a policeman, clergy, or teacher. Morally right or wrong, the was the law.

@@earlbanister5514 Unfortunately for him, he was charged federally. The federal age of consent is 18. He took an “L” on this one and it’s going to cost him the rest of his life.

Absolutely because he knew could tell she had been a victim long before he came along

17 you are responsible for your own actions. When these girls where being bought nice clothes and eating good food ,had money thrown at them they where not complaining. When it stopped that's when you hear about these stories. Lol.

But she not Bc she fucking lying

How come? Fr, I think you got more insight than I do.

I agree

But she was a minor too. 17. What would she be guilty of if she didn't invite the 14 year old to him?

@@raekwondebnam4648 For real? how you found out she was lieing?

I said the same thing about Michael Jackson's accusers.

That's what i said fr

Some people are you know,actual VICTIMS.Some people aren’t strong enough to stop it from happening.Who are we to judge ?

He usually had dirt on them, targeted certain types people and put them in compromising positions. What kind of person do you think would choose that? Probably not someone with a healthy self- esteem and a support system. Why be so quick to condemn. Just say you don’t understand why they didn’t leave and be thankful you don’t!

@@OhhTerra exactly!!

Girl bye. This heifa for the streets. She knew what time it was.

@@yomamascupoftea9459 I don’t think she was a victim at all

Victim how?

Disgusting response, I just hope one of your daughters isn't groomed

Participant not a victim

Hey I recognize you from fb. Lol. I think we were discussing azriels staged tv look lol.

@@shiabutterfly8361 yes I remember, we were talking about that piece of wig and I remember you said that was her staged look well she nailed it🤣🤣🤣

@@latequahayes-townsend480 yes that was me 😂

You're right.

Girls be 17 wit 2 baby daddies.. I’m not saying it’s right but some of y’all grandmas got 10 kids .. yo grandma might be the sweetest woman but she was ripping and running before she became grandma. The stork didnt bring them kids. These girls was out here Fwakin! Back stage underage! Fake I’d’s. Ain’t no white windowless vans. .. these girls was taking planes trains and automobiles to get to this man.

To answer your question .. teenage boys aren’t rich. I’ve witnessed and partook in trains.. girls used to literally come over after school and literally try to suck everything moving.. that’s why we use the word “head doctor” .. saying you were “abused” is a new hustle. It will backfire. Look at Bill Cosby. Most importantly, look at what happen to Marilyn Monroe!

So your victim shaming

U can be a victim of a sexual predator at ANY age! It's all about powe, control & manipulation. 17 is still very young & impressionable. I had book smars but ZERO street smars @that age.

No, they don't. The human brain don't finish maturing till mid 20s

You spoke no lies.

Same tging i say

They sure do

What do you mean?

@@jessicaj8564 she mean look alike thats what we mean as jamaicans

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It's called survival. And she's doing exactly what she should have done given the cards she was dealt.

I find that you can’t really know a woman’s true colours until you see how she deals with her own children.

So you're saying she was hustling RKelly when she was an underage girl? You're lost in the sauce fr!!!

@@tara612lynn yes she is a hustler ...even underaged hustle... plus she was not underage when dating with Mr. Kelly.

That’s your biggest take away from this? You need help sir!

@@IHYC678 Because that’s what happened. She stole the tape with the intention of blackmailing him. Didn’t she admit the people she gave the tape collected money from Kelly. She needs to be in jail also.

@@funmilayoogunsanya1275 Again why is the focus on what SHE may or may have not done wrong and not on the peadophile? This lady has just given an overwhelming amount of evidence that prove that this man was/is a peado through and though and you choose to focus on the lady’s bad choices? There’s something wrong with you as well. Y’all need help seriously.

You might very well be correct...

@@IHYC678 The focus should be on everyone who contributed to this mess including her. Why cherry pick. She’s as guilty as he his.

Bingo

I don’t understand how she didn’t go to jail

I agree, because all of the adults with the exception of Sparkle, knew what R. Kelly was doing; even Andrea and Lisa has told that they were involved in sexual things with R. Kelly and the younger girls!

I think Kanye West has a song called "Golddigger" 😃

@Nevin Reid and possibly dame dash too weird

Beta

Because Aaliyah's mammy wasn't sh!t

Mind u she said she had an abortion for that reason 🤔🤔

Back then some women who felt alone would do anything to sleep with r-Kelly. I heard stories of this happening to un famous people too. 1920s it was ok for 14 year old girls to get married to rich men or something like that I heard.

She was a young teenager who was adopted and previously abused. That breaks someone, its disgusting how the black community can defend this animals actions. If you feel so strongly with your opinion, send your daughter/niece to his cell.

@@shazkh7753 I'm not defending him but at some point there's a line that we cross from what I'm saying she was not a victim it was all about what she can gain from it I mean call it whatever it is if she feel like you know she wanted to get what she wanted to get out of him that's fine but what we're not going to do is try to make excuses for people that's just trying to jump on board to get paid and to get fame or to try to push a product there are real victims out there for real but when we have people like this that comes in and try to take advantage of a movement you really makes it harder for people who are really victims and then at the same time it makes it harder for people who really haven't done anything and anybody can come and just lie on them that's what I'm saying I'm not saying r Kelly wasn't wrong it ain't about the black community I'm speaking about all races in color and I can get deep if you need me to

Where were their parents?! They were all participants

I agree and well said!!!!

I agree bro 💯 👌🏾 I was thinking the same thing.. she invited herself back to his place and now she's a victim 🙄 😒 🤦🏾‍♂️

Right! What's the purpose now? She's so nasty.

You could do a lot with 100,000.00. A few investments and still some money left over for a new car and a down pay on a condo.

thats why hes rich... and youre a poor

@@juanshaftpatel7488 HAHAHAHA thanks

I think it’s sad that she can disrespect the legacy of baby girl if you do the fact checks she came after her and Lisa was over 18 so I’m wondering did he make her sleep with so call underage girls because it seems like she couldn’t left or said no and reported him this is why we must investigate and learn before listening to this bs

What 17 yr old accept the invite of a 30 old yr man. Surviving RKELLY...sounds like she needed RKelly to survive...

Everybody do that. Money attention views

She was into it all

Omg. Her parents what?

Thats for lazy ppl

@@vision3457 I disagree. When your time is limited and you really want to read a book and you can’t find the time. Audiobooks are a lifesaver.

@@TheHuztlazgreed I agree. You can't read a book in traffic.

@@TheHuztlazgreed right!

Yes I am so glad I was not a dumb weird child...I had plenty of sense....R. Kelly would have never go me to his home ever especially by myself...but I guess I can not sing so there would not have a reason for me to be there....My Parents would have ...Killed me so yeah...Not I....

There are sooo many pedos and pedo supporters out there. I’m honestly convinced it’s the reason for so many government regulations. I mean even just the fact that the age of consent is 18 when your pre-frontal cortex - decision making - isn’t completed till 25…. Sounds like some sickos needed the youngest a person can be while still looking and sounding like an adult. Gross.

Yeah it's ridiculous!

She is lying

I doubt she’s lying but even if she is he does that with everybody.

No her parants messed up

The state won't help family take in family. If she doesn't have the resources sometimes you just don't have a choice

Please, she was also underage when it started...you're sick!!;

She never says that she brought her friend to have sex with him she said that her friend has went to the studio with her before she never said that they had sex with her friend she just said her friend was 16 and he knew that she wouldn't have said anything about the other girl being 16 that's why he told her that she was at age until instead of telling her that she was 14

The dudes a creep and deserves these 30 years I hope he sings for everybody in the fucking prison .system for soups and protection

shes very responsible for her act , but playing the victim at 17 you can decide for yourself just the same way she decided to leave her mom house and didnt return because she didnt want to opologized , she's just a pure opportunist see wealth and wanted to be part of wealth what a 17 years old girl wanted with a 30 years old man why didnt get out the same way but she like the dam money shes a nasty bitch despite her chilhood was tough according to me she wanted it just as well it was consensual outside of his fame attitude.

Agreed 💯

But she overcame the two guys that molest her when she was 4 but she can overcome something that happened at seventeen she wasn't a virgin and she had a daughter

This girl is a hustler she ended up with $100,000 for the tape money why didn't go out to the two guys that molester when she was four plus when she with Kelly she wasn't a virgin and he was taking care of her daughter 2 and then continues to be with this man after she found out he was married

And another thing that I'm not understanding is the two grown ass men that are in this video where were they they're saying that the documentaries accurate but they still hang around this man every single day and condone what he's doing or was doing it's crazy this world is something that seriou

.... Would it not be as bad if she wasn't beautiful? I wish people would stop bringing victims looks into things. It doesn't matter if they're beautiful or not so beautiful, it doesn't make it more tragic just because she's pretty.

They wanted to get to his money. They failed , only this woman. And that guy got it. Look she laughs! Her affairs have to be gotten Together as well, you can't Mock God. The ones who Brought the kids to him Are the pied Piper.

@@joyceboyd2648 are you kidding me...the wure abused by kelly and not for his money!he is broke!and he is a loser!that youre on his side is a ffing shame!

She was actually 18 when she met Kellz. That’s why she pleaded the 5th in his NY trial.

I agree 💯💯💯 that's all the women saw it was money and the men giving it to them

You sound crazy......im glad you made wonderful choices your whole life and you're perfect.

I agree at 17 I was recruited to join the military. At the same age she could have said no herself or yes okay like she did. Take some personal responsibility. She went back for crist sake. The only thing she is a victim of is her own bad personal choices. Which more or not like was braught on by lack of parental guidance. Iam pretty sure her mother wasn't like no your 17 your not going. Or do you think it went more like shit girl get that money. I dont know? She never goes into it. either way

You're victim blaming. She has been abused and groomed since she was young, without a father her whole life and no guidance. You sound like a stone cold dummy asking what would a 17 year old see in a 30 year old man ...he wasn't no regular ass man. She saw the same thing in him that the grown ass PARENTS saw in him that allowed their kids around him. The same way women stay with abusive men is the same way a child would be attracted to and persuaded by an abusive man. He clearly had the gift of gab and money and attractive and knowing exactly what to say to his VICTIMS. She did the right thing. She testified REPEATEDLY. Her taking the tape to look out for HER FRIENDS is part of the game but when it came down to it being time to do the right thing SHE DID IT, unlike the other girls who were out actively seeking and bringing underage girls to him. People like you are the reason most VICTIMS don't speak out because they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

And for the record her getting "flew out" was a TACTIC by the pedophile!!!! That burden falls on Robert grown ass and his team that orchestrated him being with all these GIRLS! #1 GROWN WOMEN SEEK MEN TO "TAKE CARE OF THEM" in a husband so how is your grown ass sitting here blaming a CHILD for doing it?!! #2 no he wasn't her first because she had been assaulted as young as FOUR YEARS OLD. Her being hypersexual or sexual at all was NOT A CHOICE OF HERS. It's sad how a black woman can sit here and blame her. Y'all old ass black women, and yes I am a black woman 37, and that "fast" bullshit is nothing but a cultural traumatic bullshit excuse for placing blame on VICTIMS instead of the grown ass men that are predatory towards CHILDREN!!!!! And lastly 17 was LEGAL in her state even tho HE still shouldn't have wanted nothing to do with her when HE WAS 30!!!!!

Riiiight!!!! Chiiii bye

Riiiiiight 🤣🤣🤣🤣

i think she was 17 for exactly 4 years from my calculations

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I thought I was the only one who caught that. Lol

I didn't get that vibe, but it's definitely possible, she could've been downplaying "how they got cool"

@@ryanchanner1600 so she just took one tape ran off gave it to somebody for no REASON ???

@@ryanchanner1600 not to mention she calls him retarded at the end. she was messing with that other boy. shes a freak ###. That seems bitter to me.

Ikr black mail

Exactly.

@Blasthisself Dogg some people get horrible parents. I am shocked when I hear others blame the girls because they had the misfortune of getting cured with shitty parents.

How was he looking for them when they went too his work place seeking him out and the statue of limitations has ran out on the my child wasn't good for this chick she's in her 50s so she knows right from wrong they all wanted that #1 spot forgetting who they chased she thought she had the magic 🐱 they all did

@Blasthisself Dogg London 🇬🇧

@@T..1147 the whole thing is a straight up mess.

ha! he slow....

What video ?

He had a bad addiction for taping most of his acts. One of his peoples said RK knew he had a problem.

He got off because the parents said it wasn't her and the victim didn't testify .

Ikr she set him up with that tape

neither

Thank you

Yes just admitted she knew she was having a 3some c with 14yr old

That’s probably true for a lot of them

She was 17, an underaged minor. Whether she was forced or not is irrelevant legally.

Once you have a child 17 or not your grown she was hot in the ass that’s all all of them they couldn’t get what they want and now got this man into some shit that man ain’t make them do a damn thing they were star struck in other words groupies

Yep,gold digger.seems like she does anything about money.

She should have stole millions fuck r kelly

No one has accused him of that, goof ball. He is accused of fucking kids, did he or did he not have SEX with minors ?? Resume normal programing.

I guess you was a VIRGIN as a Minor? Missing the whole point. There's a bunch of hypocrites in this World.

A PREDATOR IS PREDATOR! He looked for girls who had dysfunctional families, not the best upbring, young, dumb and damaged.

@@marlok.6372 wtf were their parents?!!

He didn’t get convicted for underage in NY. Know your facts.

But she is not....

@@chaideelove1819 yes she is

@@MrGenoboss UuuuuH No she is not....

Well yeah

Who knows, it's not over until it's over. Sit in the cut and watch..

She was 17, and R kelly told her the girl was 16, but she was actually 14

Reshona the girl from the tape, he said was his neighbor but that was a lie

Witnesses aren't allowed to talk about the case while it's happening.

Right! When I was younger us young girls did like older men. R Kelly was wrong but these girls are wrong for being all on his face doing what he asked. And 30 years later get him locked up. And this girl should go to jail to. But some karma only God can handle. I feel it’s wrong to come for someone you voluntarily did things with. And she said he paid her. 😫 I bet r Kelly regret doing all of this though. I hope new artists don’t fall for this mess.

@@latitaparnell321 what is wrong with you it’s not the childs job to know better than the adult in any situation. 🤨

She was old enough to know better. Also. She stole tapes and engaged in acts with minors with him. How can you tell on someone when you were involved. She excepted his money and he didn’t force her to stay around. Like I said karma going to deal with both parties. All parties. It is wrong to bash someone you voluntarily committed crimes with.

@@latitaparnell321 When she first met him and began having sex with Kelly, she was a minor as well.

The parents had their own trauma as teens.. it’s one cycle

😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂 facts Vlad is ready for any historical event

Q

Make money on other people’s misery

😂😂😂

And you would’ve done the same. Respectfully

@@Mommyoftwooak Nah not my style. If you gonna do something then do it right. Not off the name of someone else. Exactly why the book flopped horribly.

You right

I think so too. She was promoting her book

Then he was married on top of that

Come on man she was 17.. but y’all go off smh

@Danella I thought the same. "What man wants a 17yr old"? The real question is what 17 yr old wants a 30 yr old but these things happen.

@@HD-ws7sy I get what your saying.. but if she was your daughter, would you look at things differently?

Exactly! This girl is Street wise and very aware of what was going on.

He actually was by an older man in their neighborhood as a child

exactly an got 100,000 an didnt want to say nun till she was older and needed more money

By the way which tape is that? The one Sparkle niece?.

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Can you write that again in English please? Lol

Maybe you should read the transcript of her testimony in the current trial...if u find this believable you may question your own judgement after doing so with respect

@@nobodysfool2750 facts