LITHIUM ION FIRE EXTINGUISHER TESTING 

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F500EA is an NFPA 18A Encapsulator Agent. It is a unique fire suppression agent that encapsulated fuels, toxins and carcinogens on a molecular level and removes thermal energy much more efficiently than water or other agents.

@@TheGeoling ohh thanks for the explaination, is it commercially available or still experimental ? i could not find it anywhere in my country

@@ibnuhajarulinnuha6288 Yes, it is commercially available worldwide. What is your country?

@@TheGeoling and won’t work ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eY7eUbFY2X0.htmlsi=Z_rEtKAoUnkIxafB

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He literally walked up to it armed with the fire extinguisher in the video. Why you wishing him luck for what he's already done...

@@Adamoo8 no one in their right mind would walk up to an exploding battery armed with only an extinguisher…crazy!

That is why you receive training to properly identify risks and your ability to put out a fire based on the resources at hand. I am the Head Emergency Response Officer in my company and we require all of our team members to train/simulate many scenarios. This includes first aid, evacuation drills, each of our team members are required to do checkup on all resources and we train with fire extinguishers every two years. Large Lithium fires is not one of our current concerns, because we do not have large lithium batteries as such. However judging this video, I would say that the fire is small enough for me to go an try to extinguish if I had access to the proper stuff. Basically every fire below hip height is fairly safe in order to put out yourself, but it's always under judgement of the team member to fight the fire in question. Don't feel safe? Don't do it. But again, training is key.

@@patrickd9551 I take it you've had training on extinguishing a real life large LiPo battery fire? Because if you haven't your experience in doing so would be zero. If you had, you'd know that this extinguisher will absolutely not work and will more than likely get badly injured approaching the exploding and high heat radiation emitting battery fire.

@@patrickkeoug6070 Well no, because no training company is going to willingly ignite lithium batteries for training purposes. Nor is it a risk for our company. It's also a rather expensive test to perform setting fire to a block of cells. However F500 is still the current agent listed for Lithium batteries and you have provided no evidence to suggest otherwise. So my generic training still does apply. Which is: a small fire up to your hips can be extinguished with a hand held 6L or 9L bottle with the correct agent. I also looked up the distance you need to fight the fire, which is 4 to 6 meters. This is considered a safe distance, even for small explosions like lithium can create. My training did however entail fighting a kitchen fire, electrical fire and regular fire, which included putting out a real fire of each type. But again. Why should a listed agent not be sufficient to extinguish a particular fire?

Hi Alexander , as Lithium Ion doesn't require oxygen to burn, CO2 extinguishers are totally inefficient.

I doubt less useful than powder, and that was included in the test. Also, it's not a single block of lithium burning. In practice, there's a lot of other stuff surrounding it, which gets cooled by foam or CO2.

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@@graealex Thermal runaway exists, and if you can't cool or prevent the lithium from heating itself nothing around it has to burn for it to continue burning

@@graealex This is a lithium-ion battery test, not a lithium battery test. Big difference.

Burning lithium batteries create their own oxygen during the reaction.

Tank of water? No put it in a bucket of sand dummy

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I don't believe you're supposed to put water on them

@@WVgrl59 From what I understand they submerge it in water with the goal of containing any still charged and unreacted lithium. Lithium will still burn underwater because it's able to react with the water molecules itself but the danger is much better contained inside a large pool vs in the open air. It's one of the many complicated ways firefighters and owners of a scrap yard safely handle wrecked EVs