song - • MGMT - Little Dark Age... most of movies used not in order : fantasia (2002) firebird, treasure planet, prince of egypt, atlantis, are most of the most used . the others few clips are from disney mostly
this is actually one of the best animation methods because 3d objects in animation are typically lacking "life"so its used for inanimate objects while the 2d has "life" and moves around more.
I'm not Christian and even an anti-theist i think religion does more harm than good... And even I fully 100% agree that Prince of Egypt is a fucking masterpiece. I only say that because I've heard people say "people only praise it because it's Christian propaganda" but I just fully disagree. Regardless of faith it's an excellent film.
It's not wrong considering that many children will not know Disney's amazing old 2D animation movies and many parents will show them , The feeling they will feel when showing all those works of art to their children will be practically this
Say what you want about anime, but I’m glad that Japan has taken over 2D animation to still offer us stunning stories even in 2022. Without them and the abandon of 2D animation by western studios we would really be in a little dark age…
And nobody’s complaining . Everyone is perfectly fine with 2d animation . However we lost arguably the greatest animation movement in history. Thank god at least we have anime
It's funny, it's not like the modern animation they show is poorly made. Like, the fur looks amazing etc. It's that they're poorly designed and soulless compared to early animated styles
Fantasia 2000 was one of the most incredible, visceral experiences of my childhood. I'll never forget the firebird and the sheer terror that it invoked.
I spotted Brother Bear! What a beautiful and very underapreciated movie with a deep message as well. My mom banned me from watching this movie as a kid because it made very emotional and I always cried 😂
I bet because of this oppresive culture in the west for mass media. Many great movies and ideas will be made by Eastern Animation more and more as its a much freer market (when it comes to ideas, concepts and stories).
@@tramachi7027 I reckon a big part of it is due to feminism shoe horning their politics into every part of media, so writers have to conform to make generic story and generic visuals. Like you said, ideas, concept and stories are very restricted.
@@Yorikoification No it’s just marketing. Corporations love playing it safe and creating stories that are guaranteed to maximize profits, not meaningful art. If anything, feminism oftentimes encourages amazing art, it’s just that corporations don’t understand what they’re dealing with and only understand it on a surface level, making shit grating in a way that’s often hard to define. Blame the companies, not the people.
I feel pity for the idiots ITT who try to turn this subject into a political debate because "[ideology] bad!!" Nobody cares; discuss the topic _at hand._
0:47 best scene for every antagonist 0:56 Legendary scene of how a evil antagonist turns everything into hell and fire and constant lava and smoke 10/10 great scene for an old hand drawn paper
2d/3d combined still has so much potential. You can still see it being used extensively in modern Japanese animation. I think Disney and Dream Works had the right idea with it in the mid 90s-early 2000s still. Treasure Planet, Prince of Egypt & Tarzan being prime examples in this video specifically, imo.
Is the presence of 2d/3d in Japanese animation really a good thing? I was always of the impression that the presence of 3d, at all, in a predominantly 2d Japanese animated work is simply to cut costs and save time. (This is of course, excluding Japanese animated works that are entirely 3D e.g. Berserk and Blame!) I think some art is created with restrictions and that those restrictions can serve the art but I've always been of the opinion that 3d elements in 2d Japanese animated works were always something tolerated, never accepted. A "necessary evil," if you will. Do you really believe Japanese animators would still combine 2D and 3D, even if they had unlimited resources?
@@lemonprime7889 I honestly do think they would. But due to the pressure of that market and the high constraints being placed on animators I wouldnt think they do. Perhaps wester animation as seen with Marvel's Into the spiderverse. But generally I do think they would. Just by looking at what they could do in attack on titan ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CeLvx_1FBdk.html It generally makes things more immersive and breathtaking than they would if they animated it normally. It adds depth.
@@voli293 What I love about Into the spiderverse its that there its actually different forms of animation in just one scene, by example the forest scape with Peter and Miles even moving on diferent speed or frames on the same scene, on the other side I see the pressure between time and production on anime, by example Overlord last season, or another seasonal animes with the need of represent army battles or many action in the background, also I couldn enjoy Batman Ninja, or Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters, that kind of animation its not really for me, I now its Netflix but after all its anime.
3D animation would be fine if we actually got some unique artstyle and not the same looking faces for years now... So god bless Spiderverse and Arcane.
@@thechugg4372 you sound like my roomate who spews everything that mainstream critics tell him to think, why don't you like something original? people act like arcane and spiderverse are god teir animations because of post processing effects and default engine settings, when really it doesn't express anything but color and garbage themes that've been written to cliche and they made me feel nothing, but tell me what corrodore crew told you...
i've heard people claim it was because the 2D animators unionised against the "crunch" conditions disney expected of them, so in response disney just shifted to the 3D animators who were ununionised due to being a fairly new technology at the time.
@@EaterGreenthe animators behind spider face has to touch up and draw over every frame of that movie which made it take like a million years to come out You just sound extremely ignorant of the technical wizardry at hand lol
People get caught up in thinking 3d is the “next step” in animation above 2d, thus rendering the older form an obsolete relic. In actuality, they are both valid art forms, it’s just 3d is easier to sell.
we are seeing small bits of resurgence in films like klaus and shows like Primal, where unique artstyles > 3d, though those are still in the miniority.
I also think they did an amazing job on the Invader Zim movie. They did so well keeping the vibes true to the old series whilst introducing us to new visual and refreshing elements. I liked how gritty and blocky the old style was and I won’t lie, the new cuter style had me a little surprised at first but I think they really made it work! I’m still on the fence about the Hey Arnold! film as the plot was a little whacky and out of touch compared to the show (imo), but once again it was still visually very pleasing to watch and it really did feel like the characters had returned. I really do hope they do more of these and come back to these classic cartoons, particularly old Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network ones :)
The opening of Tarzan with the burning ship is INSANE. And Iron Giant fighting the military, especially with the nuke. Man I miss these movies. The only thing that has impressed me recently was Arcane and the Clone Wars, even if they were 3D. (Though the 2003 2D Clone Wars is awesome.)
@@LordVader1094 hahaha yeah it's a shame it's not in this video. Captain Fordo and General Grievous were the best in it for sure. They made a terrifying Grievous...
I gotta say, I think Treasure Planet is one of the greatest animated films of all time. It’s nearly perfect in my opinion, considering animation and writing (even though it’s a rendition of treasure island) It’s gotta be my favorite animated movie ever.
Despite 2D animation being a lot more difficult and time consuming it shows, not to mention how much more life and uniqueness it brings. Part in why some anime today just fills that whole western media just dumped and left
Anime has partly filled that hole, but you shouldn't sleep on TV animation. ATLA, gravity falls, infinity train, 2D animation isn't dead in the west, its just moved.
Honestly, 2D isn't even that much more difficult or time consuming. For example look at all the 2D cartoons & handmade videos that artists put out on Instagram or RU-vid. Modern technology makes 2D super easy to work with. The reason 2D was abandoned was becuade Disney wanted to cut out unions, and 2D animators were unionized, 3D animators weren't.
Treasure planet was actually made with both 2D and 3D animation, which is why ot took so long to make. But I think the style was really cool and Treasure Planet remains in my top 5 favorite Disney Movies💕
Yeah those were made after hand animated cartoons were all ready 30-70 years old. CGI is in its third decade of widespread use so we're just coming up on the equivalent of Cinderella or snow white someday soon.
@@qwopiretyu the perfect 3D animated movie already exist , it's Rango . except that the perferct 3D animated film is just stop motion or puppetry with sfx .
CGI can do amazing things now. I threw in the towel long ago arguing that traditional methods- hand drawing, puppets, stop motion, makeup, etc.- look better and more 'real' or 'alive.' I've been taken aback by how good the best of CGI can accomplish. However, that being said, I've never been emotionally struck, choked up by the sheer beauty of a moment from a CGI film the way I have with hand drawn. Fantasia. Sleeping Beauty. They'll never, ever be topped. They're America's Sistine Chapel. The pinnacle of our artistic achievement.
@@egekazkayas8968 Into the Spiderverse is amazing, but I don't think it's timeless in the sense something like Fantasia is and as such could never be up there among the greatest.
@@egekazkayas8968 they still hybridized 2D into spidervese though. so they didn’t abandon that completely many of the comic book style key frames were hand animated and they overlay hand dawn 2D animation on the character models
@@egekazkayas8968 except that it wasn't 100% CG like most of the movies put out by Disney these last years, that's why the animation was able to shine so much. It had a hybrid element and style that just weren't being accomplished by others
Crazy how some of these films aren’t even from Disney and yet people in the comments bundle it under disney… really shows how much of a grip Disney has on people.
out of all of them, the only ones I would call beautiful are encanto and luca (and maybe onward but that's a big maybe), and even then encanto's artstyle isn't that unique. The rest are all very samey
Honestly i enjoy many of the newer films as well, but I think this video is more a showcase of how the focus within animation has changed, there is now a clear style of CGI Disney/etc use, and while it still is beautiful and extremely fluid it doesn't hold the same creative process within animation that came from the blending of CGI and 2d. It's completely understandable why it is like this, as the template animation is so good that they don't need to change it, so the focus has changed from providing inspirational animation to making better stories and songs within the movies, which is fine. What do I remember from Encanto? the song. What do I remember from the Prince of Egypt? the animation.
@Simone Yeah, I love old designs of many things, but I don't think all modern designs are bad, I think older cars are gorgeous (cars from around the 1910's - 1970's), and more modern cars on average look quite soulless compared, but there are many modern cars that achieve that same personality as older cars. It shouldn't be "Old stuff is all good, new stuff is all bad!" as there were many classic cars that did not look good, and there are many modern cars that look very nice, but of course this goes for everything, not just cars.
@@Wanderlight17 yea sure bring me something protagonist good as thorfinn. western animation is full of childish stuff. never seen a cartoon where child soldier grew up to be pacifist. dude literally went mercenary "war is the only thing that’s ever truly mattered to me" to farmer saying "i have no enemies. I need to grow more wheat than I trampled underfoot."
@@QWERTY-gp8fd judging by your tone, whatever answer i'll give, you won't believe me. If you genuinely believe western animation is just childish stuff, you simply have a lot to learn, that's all i'll say. I don't know what the Vinland Saga is, but your description sounds like a pretty average "quest for peace" story to be honest. By all means enjoy it, but don't act like it's somehow unique. Don't act like western animation is bad if you've only scratched the surface
Treasure Planet is my all time favorite, taking a contemporary story and adding all the strengths of sc fi elements with none of the weaknesses and still retaining it's original vibe of a swashbuckling adventure into the unkown. Not to mention the classic tale of a wild son finding a fatherly figure in the most unlikely of individuals. It's such an incredible example of adaptations done right. "Now you listen to me, James Hawkins. You got the makings of greatness in you, but you got to take the helm and chart your own course. Stick to it, no matter the squalls! And when the time comes you get the chance to really test the cut of your sails, and show what you're made of....well, I hope I'm there catching some of the light coming off you that day!"
There is something about Prince of Egypt that they captured so right with the movie. Regardless of your take on Religion in general, the movie hits you with history, not religion. It’s one of the few movies that made me sit back and think about it.
This, even though it's about the book of Exodus it's still a movie for everyone. There are hardline atheists and agnostics that still adore it for the story and sheer brilliance of the animation.
Except that the pyramids and such weren't built by slaves, rather by skilled craftsmen. A great movie though, in it's telling of the religious version.
Man. I remember most of these but a few of these really stood out. I mean I had fucking goosebumps at the end dude. Wow. I grew up on most of these movies. Honestly I think it's why I became so obssessed with animation in general. When you end up watching stuff like fantasia at a young age I feel that primes your brain to be the type that cares more about the art value of something than whether it be easy to watch. I know that companies aren't at all what they used to be. But I miss when all this monolithic energy used to be used on things of substance. I would rather a world where passion projects like the black cauldron are allowed to see the light of day despite flopping. It's such a megalithic company that you would think they could tank the losses so that the truly creative people can make their projects.
A lot of people don’t know that 3D animation take less time to make then 2D animation that’s why nowadays we are seeing 3-D animation movies and 2D animated shows and short films
You can like both. I remember watching lion king multiple times a day as a child but that definitely doesn't stop me from appreciating new Disney movies. Soul and Coco are good and I watched Turing red yesterday and it's not nearly as bad as they say. Not gonna lie though I miss 2d Disney and anime is still superior.
why does this feel like my childhood is dying. these movies and the medium of animation inspired me to pursue art as a kid, so without them i would have next to nothing . . oh dear
Yeah but 2d is way better than 3D, and yes you can say that 3D is more realístic, better quality etc, but 2d is just beautiful I don’t even know how to explain it.
Let's not forget the Music accompanying the animation as well. Bells of Notre Dame, The Plagues, I'll make a man out of you, and Phil Collins's On my way and Son of man, these are a few that come to mind.
@@Garbriel_M it does sound like it. But I see why he says that. I believe Luca was made with that in mind too. But I love Turning Red 😤. First Pixar movie that I can say that about in a LONG TIME
Gabriel M Its because it is. The Domee Shi even said so in an interview that it's mostly based on her growing childhood, her community, to pop cultures of her time. Stop acting like it isn't, my god!
@@user-lc3fv8pl1i Dude. It's been this way for decades. Artists have ALWAYS put a part of themselves in their work. And also growing up, puberty, and standing up to your parents are universal feelings, so please stop saying nonsense
3D animation itself isnt the problem here, its that big animated movie companies like Disney/Pixar and DreamWorks have lost a lot of their heart when making animated films and theyre the ones who are spearheading that industry
Some of these are a mix of 2d and 3D and that’s what made some of these movies great I wish they would’ve kept mixing the 2 arts instead of going full 3d
It’s been a while since I’ve seen these animations but holy shit these animators were in their prime back in the day. Wish animation would make a comeback for all movie studios.
Let's all be grateful we grew up with old Disney, I may be only 21 years old but i remember having some of the movies on VHS that i used to rewatch over and over again, good times :D
@@mortemoccasus2412 Ohhhhh... you're just *insane...* THAT'S why you think Arcane is "mediocre." If you're the kind of clown that would unironically respond to "Turning Red was actually pretty good" with "it was *identity crap,"* then you're a sad loser who can't separate writing quality from meta-politics. Bruh, was it all of the plotholes in The Batman that made that movie a 5/10, or was it JUST that *ONE* line from Catwoman about "rich white men" that dropped the movie all the way down to a 5/10? Remove your biases. If you are going to talk about the film's quality you can't go off on a tangent about the crazy people who *made* the film, you have to stay within the borders of *the film.* Everybody knows Disney is crazy. That doesn't make Turning Red bad or even "average." It's at least a high 6/10, which makes it above average. Again, just like with Arcane, start naming plotholes or shut up.
@@mortemoccasus2412 I think you tried to make a point there, from the 'identity crap' it seems like you tried to make some anti sjw screed, but the words you said are so meaningless that I can't even tell.
