The 2015 successor comic "Return to Slumberland" has a new character called "Jimmy Nemo Summerton", who actually was named after the fish in-story. IDW comics made the joke so you didn't have to.
I see a lot of potential in Little Nemo. Maybe not as a movie but as a animated tv series. Each episode will start out with a problem, Nemo has a dream, Nemo learns that problem in that dream, Nemo wakes up and tries to do better. What do you think?
That’s funny, I saw more potential in HNA. It had some decent jokes and the animation was pretty passable. They also almost made Cinderella pretty cool. It’s weird.
Freaking _Mona the Vampire_ executed the concept better. Granted, it could be because it was an episodic TV series, and therefore had more *time* to do more with the concept.
I have a better idea for Happily Never After. Ella: You’re right. It’s not fair that certain people can have their happily ever after and others can’t but what’s taking away their ever after a going to do but cause more pain and misery, and not just to them, not just to me, but to you as well. Stop this and we can put things back the way they are supposed to be...together. She doesn’t win the day by brute force, but through love and showing kindness.
Annie and Elsie of Arendelle They could try to reason with the enemy, but would have to use force because (like idiots) the villains aren't interested. Better?
I support this comment! for some reason a video store had that a while ago when I was younger and for some god forsaken reason I rented it and watched it 3 times. I want my money back.
The first Happily Never After had an interesting idea but it wasted its potential and became pretty bad. However, the second movie was so bad that it made me appreciate the first one
Fun fact about Little Nemo: when it was first released in Japan, it did very poorly at the box office due to some stiff competition from the movie Kiki's Delivery Service which, ironically, was directed by one of the animators who left TMS Entertainment during Little Nemo's production. Boy, that must have hurt.
Just like how Nintendo inadvertently helped Sony become a gaming juggernaut by giving them the idea to make the Playstation themselves instead of for Nintendo.
If people REALLY want to make Cinderella a modern princess, why not do it in a clever way? Instead of making her strong, why not make her smart? Since she's been working a lot for her stepmother, make it so that she values her as a real mother despite all the torture they put her through. While working, Cinderella finds some free time to read mystery books and knows how to set traps anywhere. One day maybe her step mother and step sisters go missing and she tries to find them. Even if they hate her, she still loves them. She can win in the end by using smart skills. She has the mind of a detective and found a lot of clues and instead of fighting the bad guys with physical stuff, why not have the movie show her use a bunch of sly tricks to beat the bad guys with smarts. In the end, when she finds her step mother and step sisters she can beat the main villain also with some sort of clever trick. After saving her step mother and step sisters, they realize that they were wrong and start to love her as a real daughter. It's kinda crappy but hey it's a "modern princess" story where a guy isn't needed and the main female character doesn't need to be rude and tough.
What I'm really tired of is when lazy writers just introduce the heroine as being pointlessly rude in an attempt to make her "strong", and then pat themselves on the back and go back to turn the very same heroine into a damsel anyway in the third act.
OH MY GOD IHATE THAT TOO! I really don't like how so many "strong" female characters are mean and rude just because. There's no reason at all. It gets even more annoying when they do it to a random guy they hate and end up liking them for no reason later on.
@@albertschoise8091 I'm not sure if you meant something else or that the detective story isn't like Cinderella but if it's the latter, let me explain a bit behind it ^^ I feel like a mystery story would suit as a remake of the classic tale since one of the key characteristics of Cinderella is her patience to deal with anything. Detectives tend to need to be patient and slow when they're solving cases. If they go too fast or harsh, they might not find all the puzzle pieces. I like using the example of Flippers from Hoodwinked. They only got the real tale since he was patient enough to hear out everyone's POV of the story and find the character that was in all their events but missing on the crime scene. Obviously, I wouldn't want to turn Cinderella into Flippers but he's a good example of how someone's patience can save the day Again, it's not the perfect or best idea, but it's more original than the usual action chick.
I always thought that the revelation in Happily N'Ever After was that the main character realizes that, after she has her Happily Ever After, her story doesn't actually end, it repeats. With any normal person, you live a life, you grow old, and you die. But with Ella, she's essentially living a Groundhogs Day-like experience, except she has no clue it's even happening in the first place. That's why, at the end (in the context of the movie, at least), Ella feels like she actually can be satisfied, because everyone's story, after they finish, continues. They can have kids, go on honeymoons, live to retirement, do hobbies, hang out with friends, that sort of thing. I don't really see it as much of a "Oh, I want a better Happily Ever After", but more like she wants an Ever After that is Happy (like normal people in reality)... That's how I always saw the movie, anyway.
It's very dissapointing what's Flip never gets punished. He's not just some stupid trickstar - he's clearly EVIL and maybe even a servant of Nightmare King.
I actually really like the scene in which Cinderella finds out about what her life is always going to be. No, people don't want happily ever after, because there are no happily ever afters. lifes goes on. After overcoming one obstacle, there might be another one. She doesn't want to repeat one story over and over, she wants a life. In the Care Bears in Wonderland you said that a creature from Wonderland could want order, but shouldn't know how to describe it. Cinderella is from a fairy tale, a kinda self-aware one, so she doesn't understand the concept of life after ever after
"And why would someone responsible for the balance between good and evil have this in his employ?" Probably to keep him under supervision so he's not making even more trouble in the wider world.
You know, I think that Little Nemo would be great a psychological dark fantasy. You know something somewhat similar to Coraline. Since this version would be MUCH darker, it would be more aligned with the tone of the comics. The premise, at first, is largely the same: Nemo enters Slumberland, a world divided by dreams and nightmares. However, Nemo learns that he was actually was dragged into the Slumberland by Morpheus, the land’s king. He tricks the boy into becoming his heir so he could go into the body of the boy, with the desire of returning life as a child. The changes would be that there would be no nightmare king (I was imagining that Morpheus would be king of both dreams and nightmares) and no Squirrel sidekick since his presence in reality alone is at odds with the Dream World. Nemo eventually learns that the Nightmares are actually not evil (since they represent the subconscious and they could guide the dreamers back to their minds) and works with an aspect of fear to travel through the many realms of dreams in hopes of waking up before Morpheus steals the boy's body. Also, I was thinking that trains would be a recurring motif, mostly representing Morpheus’ malevolent control over the realm of dreams.
Elevator pitch: _Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge_ (now with 30% less homoeroticism!) meets Lovecraft's _Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath,_ featuring a villain played by George Lopez with a goldfish bowl on his head.
Me: *reads the title as "Happily Ever After" Oh good, I've been wondering what he thinks of that Snow White film with Irene Cara. *hears Bob say "N'ever After* Oh...it's the movie with Cinderella in CG3. My mistake....wait a sec...OH NO!! Meanwhile, even though "Happily N'Ever After" does seem watchable, I the designs look cheap, the main guy is an entitled jerk and Prince Charming was treated terribly in this. Yeah, he can be bland, but at least he TRIES to be a good fellow. I can forgive Cinderella's pixie-cut but why is she unhappy with having a happy ending? That just makes her seem ungrateful since her step-mother will NEVER get a happy ending when you think about it.
From what I've read there were a TON of behind the scenes problems with Little Nemo. It was a joint effort with American and Japanese companies but they had such a tough time talking to each other that no one knew what the hell was going on and it ended up as the mess that it is.
Honestly, it makes me think of Project Hammer, a wii game that didn't happen because of the asian developers being racist towards the non-asian people working on the game with them.
And it's weird that they made her a brunette in this movie because she's usually portrayed as a blonde it doesn't annoy me as much as when they make Snow White blondes even though she's supposed to have black hair
Ironically the Little Nemo videogame on the NES was actually pretty enjoyable and a game that I'd personally consider to be a classic must-play NES game.
Those weird dreams are what finally drives Nemo completely insane, and he uses the image of Flip from his dreams to create a new persona for himself... A much less serious persona.... And the image of the complaint princess are what stayed with him till the day he met a very friendly psychologist... *cue Mark Hammil laugh*
It'd have been nice if Nemo had done some good deeds before becoming prince so he'd have earned it. I wonder if it was like that in the comic or book. I'll have to check it out.
He pretty much meant it when he said Nemo has a dream, usually meets a whacky character, then wakes up. It was more a comic strip kind of thing so plot really wasn't the goal.
3:49 I said this over on the NC review of this movie, but I feel the need to repeat it here. I can't help but to look at Professor Genius and think of the Duke of Weaseltown from Frozen.
I haven't seen Happily N'ever after since I was a toddler. Upon watching your review, I had a bunch of memories rush back to me and none of it was good. Still, good review!
If I had to redo little nemo and build it up to justify it being a movie, i'd take advantage of the fact that Morpheus is also the name of the greek god of dreams name and have that be the king , and to just have the "dream realm" be a thing and have Nemo be revealed to be the demigod half breed son of him
To be honest, I thought that Happily N'Ever After was a great film when I was a kid. Today, I realize how the idea wasn't executed well and the animation looks a little bit cheap (I read from a critic that the total production time was 15 months).
LewisDavies2007 it is at least beautifully animated especially compared to other terrible animated movies. While the plot is not terrible, it is more boring. But then again it can be argued that the movies with a terrible plot are more memorable than the boring ones.
I know I'm supposed to be amused by this review and, heck, I really am mostly. But I'm not sure. The cynical rubbishing of a sedate storyline and kind of a dismissal of the fact that children do have very small "adventues" made it uncomfortable to watch. Also, the Greeks had Morpheus first. I'm sure you knew that but it seemed worth mentioning. This was based on a very old comic, of course it won't be like a modern sugar rush ADD crazy-go-nuts cartoon.
Who said it needed to be a "modern sugar rush ADD crazy-go-nuts" cartoon? The man wants his feature films to have some structure to them, so sue him. And sure the comic strip it was based on is really old, but the movie was made in 1989, so it's not like they couldn't have made some embellishments here and there if they wanted to.
When I saw Happily N'Ever After as a kid, I almost liked it, but now that I am an adult, I will admit it has a lot of problems. But I still don't think it's "the worst animated feature" that a lot of critics called it shortly after its release.
Happily N'Ever was meant to be a movie adaptation of a German cartoon called Simsala Grim which never to the states other DvDs and on demand service but they choose to make an original story with stand-ins for characters from Simsala Grimm.
Wait, I'm confused. Do the fairytales operate on some kind of stable time loop, starting over again from the beginning once the Happily Ever After is reached? If that's the case, I guess it makes sense that Cinderella marrying Rick instead would break the cycle, since the "marry the prince" end condition is never reached. But what effect does this have on the rest of the fairytale world? Are _all_ the stories freed from the time loop and the characters in them given free will? Also, bit of Fridge Logic: Frida can't actually turn Cinderella into a snail or eat her or kill her directly in any other way, because she's still under the rules of a fairytale, meaning that she physically _can't_ actually destroy or do permanent harm to the heroes (Ella and Rick)
11:46 Actually I wouldn't say that Gertie the Dinosaur is that obscure, given she is fairly well known in both the history of film and often being shown in many dinosaur books.
Of course, Little Nemo looks good, it's Miyazaki's production group doing it. Of course, from what I understand, it was such a production hell that the man, himself hated it.
He was speaking to the fact that her having short hair was supposed to mean she was "strong." It takes more than a hairstyle. Same way he said that grunging up Jailbreak didn't turn her into a strong female character in The Emoji Movie. It just changed her clothing choices from The Gap to Hot Topic. LOL
Who ironically few years earlier played Fred and Daphne in the live action Scooby-Doo movie a movie that was a complete Trainwreck at least it was one positive that came out or that and that was Matthew Lillard as Shaggy
btw. I really like Valiant actually, it is kinda cheap in story and in the visual department but it is very enjoyable. Would buy it on Bluray if it was available,
I've been wanting to ask this for a while: Where did you buy the Wolfabob puppet? I want one as well XD And yes, Swan Princess was the worst thing to happen to a princess.
I’ve just noticed something in that strange type of Animation for Happily N’Ever After though. After the Princess was Turned into a stork for an unhappy...mistaken ending, As it proceeds to eat him, the frog gets clipped in her beak instead of getting his head inside her beak to swallow the amphibian down as the frog model disappears afterwards as it follows. I guess I could clearly tell that this clip from the movie really has a mistake in this part of the movie during the Magic Ball Scene as well. Plus, This movie was also weird as well. But for Little Nemo....Mmmh, I think it looks alright to me though. 🤷♀️
I remember when Netflix was exclusivly a DVD rental service. my mom allowed my brother and I to take turns picking out the movie for family night. I chose Happily N'ever After. I remember being excited because the premise sounded cool. How could a movie about villians taking over fairytales go wrong? After we watched it, however... I remember sitting between my parents, looking at them both and actually apologizing. I HATED It. There wasn't a SINGLE bit of laughter from any of us.
Hayao Miyazaki was attached to it at one point and has even called the worst experience of his career. He didn't like the idea of Nemo not growing as a character.
I love Freddie Prinze's narration. He sounds so bored and condescending all throughout, as if he has to remind himself every 5 seconds "I can't believe I'm in this shit but think of the paycheck, man! Just think of the paycheck!" XD
I actually really enjoyed Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland. It's a fun little movie with likable and relatable characters. Plus it has Gabriel Damon as the voice of Nemo. I bring that up because he was born in Reno, Nevada and so was I.
Here's more trivia. Nemo is voiced by Gabriel Damon, the voice of Littlefoot from the first Land Before Time. Professor Genius is voiced by the late Rene Auberjonois, Odo from Deep Space Nine. Icarus is voiced by Danny Mann, the voice of Ferdinand from Babe. And Nemo's mother is voiced by Jennifer Darling, the voice of Irma from the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon.
9:01 I don't remember this scene being THIS cringe inducing when I was a kid watching this movie... 19:45 there's an extended cut of the movie with some missing dialogue and scenes(like the Nightmare King talking to his lackeys) that mentions that Nemo isn't old and strong enough to use the Scepter at full power yet. The effort would kill him, if I remember correctly it comes up at one point earlier.
The "nothing" coming out from the locked room kinda used to give me nightmares when I was little but I still watched Little Nemo over and over again XD
Ah yes, I remember watching this Swan Princess sequel, and my favorite scene was when Elise dreamed that there wouldn’t be anymore Swan Princess sequels.
Aside from breaking a tie and having princesses, I see no reason why these two movies needed a single combined video review when they have little in common. At least the animation for 'Little Nemo' is nice.
1:35 - Funny enough I had this movie as a kid, it was a condensed version that cut quite a bit out and ended up having this theme song playing through the opening scene. 3:03 - Yeah the version I had didn't have this bit with the pie either....kinda glad it didn't. 3:55 - And this ends up having no impact on the plot whatsoever, thanks movie >:/ 6:53 - Yet another name that doesn't get brought up again, thanks Morphy >:/ 11:11 - And another scene that wasn't in the version I had. 12:48 - Sheesh and I thought "Kameyhameyha" was long winded-oh my sweet Kami I just realized this movie was my first "anime" long before either sailor Moon or Dragon Ball.....holy shit. XD 16:37 - Well this was the 1910s, not exactly a lot of options in naval travel..... 20:02 - Well if this were Rainbow Dash's dream it would be, and she'd flipping the fuck out.... 20:39 - Well it did spit them out right in front of a waiting Nightmare King so "trap door" is a more apropriate term. 23:13 - Maybe he gets hold of special candy he can feed to animals in order to temporarily wear their bodies as power granting animal suits? I wish I was making that up XD 26:22 - WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT o _ O
I know this review is 6 years old, but I never realized you reviewed Little Nemo until now! We didn’t have cable when I was growing up, but a shitton of VHSs. And this was one of my favorites. But now as an adult, and seeing your review was a bit odd, but you’re totally right. This movie had so much potential but it honestly doesn’t hold up. I think I was more fascinated by the animation as a kid as I honestly didn’t remember most of the plot until now.
Cinderella stories kinda fascinate me; they always have, ever since my school did a play of the Rodgers and Hammerstein version. I appreciate the direction they tried to take this one in, but honestly the biggest fault with them is that they either need to stick to the classic submissive, kind, patient Cindy, or try for a more progressive modern take, but they need to update the story if they're gonna modernize it. Explain why she still listens to her stepmother when she's progressive and ass-kicking; perhaps expand on her siblings as well so they aren't just 2D jackasses; etc.
They could’ve made this version of Cinderella work. If the ‘I want more’ scene had gone like this. “so, I just live a perfect life of luxury?” “That’s it” “No troubles to overcome? No adventure? No excitement? Just me sitting in a castle, getting everything I want handed to me?” “What did you expect?”
