Hello! To learn everything else about Push: wrkshp.eu 👉 Check out the performance video I mentioned: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RLWVoulfMGo.html 👉 Turn on subs for extra info and commentary.
Watched an ad right before this video, then when the video started I was surprised to see you were the guy in the ad 😂 Great video, just bought Live 11 and really interested in the Push 2 now
😅 it must be surreal I’m sure 🙈 - but hopefully not too annoying - still getting the hang of running ads and I’m always slightly worried about spamming good people overly with yet more ads they don’t want do see. Then again it’s the nature of the beast, for now at least. Don’t hesitate to get in touch if you have any questions at all, at WRKSHP.eu@gmail.com or here! I also made a video on my journey with Push, and I’ve only got love for it! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cd-MhO7AbL0.html
Thanks for this great video. I’ve been using 11 for a few months as a beta tester and I love it. One feature I’d like to see implemented is a smooth and timed transition between Macro snapshots. Currently the switch is instant. It would be cool if the changed occurred over tempo-synched or free time.
Amen to this - would absolutely love to have such a feature. There were some votes for it in the beta forum, but no news as yet. Oh and thank you, Jeffrey! 🙏🏻
Great video, I've sub'd! My push 2 is an overpriced filter cutoff controller to be honest. I'm inspired to do more with it...... cheers from Glasgow dude
Ah good stuff! Thanks, and nice to hear from somebody fae Glasgow! Studied there back in the day. Grew up in Edinburgh, but as we know Glasgow’s miles better 🍻
Thank Andri! I found your video very helpful and inspiring. Currently, I am learning Live 11 and am thinking about getting Push 2 to open up new creative possibilities in my home studio..
I use reason 11 suite more than vsts in ableton 10. Except for mpe, you can do all the new stuff with the players and fx in reason as a vst3 in live. Gonna be a hard time to justify buying 11, i´ll probably wait until 11.5 wich will come with a feature i really want and upgrade then lol. If you want to test it, there is now a subscription for reason, with 1 month free, just remember to unsubscribe on time, or not... ;) these 2 together are really something special , especially if you have spend almost 2500 on upgrades , bundles, and individual fx/instruments and player devices in reason lol. I also like the fact that there are some real gems you cant get in vst format, viking 2 for example is crazy good soundwise. Grtz from belgium , i really like your clear explanation of all features. Kudos :)
Hard to know how they could improve it really, other than bigger, possibly multiple screens. I'm quite happy they spend their energies improving the software interactions for what already is a quality controller. For anyone on push 1 I'd strongly recommend upgrading to push 2 the quality difference between the akai manufactured push 1 and the ableton manufactured push 2 is massive.
Long time Live user, but I learned Logic this past year (COVID goals), and I wish Ableton would add proper support for MIDI FX plugins. When switching between Logic and Live, I'm super annoyed now that I've seen how MIDI FX is suppose to work. I resent having to create and route separate MIDI tracks just so I can use my favorite MIDI FX writing tools. Anyway, it's hard to put the genie back in the bottle, and once I got over the initial learning curve, Logic impressed the hell out of me.
I agree totally with this sentiment, and the implied feature request. I also use Logic and Live about 50-50 for different things, depending on the project and the features I want to exploit. The main tool I use in this category is Riffer, which can be pretty great for idea generation. But it is indeed enough of a pain to set up this kind of thing in Live that often enough, it seems easier to just create a new MIDI clip and click in a random spray of notes, turn on the loop and work it manually from there.
Hey Mark! Nice to see you dropping by! Hopefully this video won't be too much of a snooze - I was struggling to stay awake near the end! Need to get back into the groove of video making and editing again.
@@AndriSoren a great insight from you as always. WRKSHP was just what I needed to take my Push game to a solid level, and I’ve been really enjoying messing around with the new features in 11beta. The randomness and velocity parameters are so useful for the kind of music I’m making. I expect the only logical progression for a hypothetical Push 3 is further MPE integration a la Seaboard or the incredible-looking Osmose from Expressive E. I’d also love to see some eurorack-compatible CV ins and outs on the Push 3, if and when it happens. Might be a good idea for a video, putting forward what you might like to see from a Push 3 or similar device? Thanks again for the great content, dude!
I remember encountering poly key pressure for the first time on the Ensoniq VFX-SD. I never bought one, but I probably single-handedly wore out the key bed on a unit at the music store. I am really pleased that MPE has developed, though personally I am focusing on fiddle & mandolin. I’m still on a Push 1 on Live 10, but this does tempt me to consider upgrading to live 11 and the push 2.
Any way to switch the snapshots you can now take from an instrument (maschine has this too for a while) straight from push 2? Would be great if we could morph between them , like say 2 secs to go from one snapshot to another, don't think thats possible already (agqin maschine does this). Thx for the vid.
Hello Jaime! Thank you! Not yet - but it's on my list - as always I want to go in depth with it, but I'm now starting to ponder shorter videos in the hope that I can get more out there.
Now if only I had space in my current workspace to have the push on my desktop and not balanced on my lap :P Great changes are coming. The randomisation feature has been fun to play with in Beta as I'm so used to using the step-components (randomisation tools) on the OP-Z.
look into the Gibraltar GEMS electronic mounting stand, it’s what i use to keep it off the table and it folds up so nice. parker corey of injury reserve uses one if you want to see it in action live
Probability works great with drums on the push two but how do you do it with an instrument such as a bass on the push 2 ???? do not see an option. thanks for the vid.
Hey Jae! For melodic sounds you need to be in one of the step sequencer modes on Push/Push 2. When you’ve programmed in a note, hold down on that note/pad and you’ll see the probability option if you’re in Clip View on Push. If you look carefully at the start of this video you can see me adjust it (you can use RU-vid’s playback speed option to slow it down if you like) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RiVomHiskw0.html
Do you know if it’s possible with Ableton 11 and Push 2 to add new devices to an empty instrument rack? With Ableton 10 it’s just possible to replace a device within an instrument rack, but not add a new chain...
@@AndriSoren I've got a great deal buying Push 2 with Live 10 and free upgrade to Live 11 for 700€! So can't wait for it! If it's this Tuesday I'm thrilled, thanks for information! ✌🏼 Keep up the great work! ❤
Hello tonematrix! I’m pretty sure that Ableton never do Black Friday sales. Their sales are quite rare. But - only buy it if you have the time to use it, I’d say!
@@AndriSoren True I figured it wouldn't be that specific day. I guess I just meant in general if it would come down to a similar price. I do like the new features though. Especially the Spitfire library, MPE & Comping. Gah! Decisions!
@@tonematrix they often make it hard, these decisions :) What has sometimes “helped me over the edge” of deciding is to also realise that by buying something I’m not only receiving something, but also supporting something I believe in, and Ableton is one of those things. But this is of course something very personal, it just helped me in the past, and it easy for me as I love what they do.
So I’m interested in taking advantage of MPE, but am not so interested in purchasing new hardware for the purpose (broke enough as it is). Obviously I can program in MPE information with the mouse (and have been doing so in the process of beta testing Live 11). I’m considering using the faders on another controller I have, for the purpose. But I’m curious if you have experimented with mapping the Push 2 touch strip to MPE parameters. If possible, I suspect this is something that can only be done in user mode, on a “need to map” basis, and only one parameter at a time, but I’d like your thoughts on it. By the way, I’m a new enrollee of the Push Bible since this past Monday or so - great work. I’m only a few units in and you’re really opening up this device for me, which for the past 3 years I’ve been using in a very unsophisticated way. Thank you!
Heh Jeremy, thank you for the feedback and also your question! I’ve not tried this approach as yet, I’d be curious to hear if it has any potential, but we can be sure it will involve using M4L devices. The thing is that the per-note parameters such as slide will always be problematic, given that we won’t have enough sliders or fingers to generate them. An interesting problem, for sure.
great walkthrough! ive been playing with 11 but didnt explore much of the new push. would you explain what is your best settings for push's pad sensitivity, gain and dynamics for MPE? i usually have mine a bit higher, but i suspect in MPE it would make more sense to have them lower
Thank you bur! So far I’ve stuck with 3-4-5 as my settings and been pretty happy. But I do also sometimes add stock ableton velocity midi devices/effects to reduce the extent to which some instruments respond to velocity. I prefer to do it this way instead of editing every single instrument I use.
Hello Mathew! I certainly hope so! I’ve been concentrating on getting music out of late (here on YT) but I’m keen to do more such videos. Thank you for asking!
@@MathewGettins thank you! Really appreciated. I’ve been reorganising my room (and life) to try and be able to make more content. Encouragement like yours helps a lot! What are you working on / dreaming about these days?
@@AndriSoren I just moved home from Austria where i had a more (all) hardware synth setup, had to sell my RYTM mk2 and a few others. Know you love it too. My new setup revolves around ableton and push 2, i have both a week now. Moved from Logic to Ableton also, so wrapping my head around that. If i can get anywhere as good as what i was with the RYTM and Logic with what i have now i will be laughing. Its so frustrating not being able to take ideas to the next level because of lack of knowledge. We getting there though, your videos have the most so far.
@@MathewGettins ah that’s quite a decent shift and change - curious to know why you changed from rytm+logic to push+live. I am indeed a fan of the rytm and elektron in general. I often think without live and push I’d be all-in on elektron. It does take time to get any of it “under your fingers” so to speak. My journey has been 11 years long, but it was in 2013 with Push 1 that a real acceleration occurred, seeing a piece of hardware that just “spoke” to me. The thing is it takes some hunting around, and often a lot of (constructive) failing across the “landscape of creativity” until we find our part of the garden, and the tools that suit us best. In any case, welcome back to Austria!
Hi, when I recorded some MIDI notes, and started little late (first midi note is not exactly where I want it to be), how can I set the beginning of the loop to the first note? In Live its just "Set 1.1.1. here" But how to do that in Push 2? When adjusting the Loop Position, the increments of Push are just to big to set the start point exactly in front of the first midi note. Atm I record my track into a new one, convert it to simpler and adjust from there. But man... this workaround gives me headache, when you know this is just one click in Live. One more question: Is it possible to set the velocity probability for an whole clip with push 2 and live 11?
Hi - the best you can do is hold down shift and use this in combination with the clip start knob to have a finer control. In some cases zooming in can give finer control on Push. Regarding global velocity range - the only way I can see doing so would be to use a “good old” velocity MIDI effect device and use this to generate random velocities. What you can do if you have a few notes and want to move their relative velocity range is hold them all down, and then move the range up or down for them all - this is obviously limited to how many you can reach with your fingers.
I really hope you can help me... I'm at the crossroads of getting a Push or investing in a 2nd 24 inch Touchscreen to control Live 11. Do you still think the Push is a good investment if I wont use it for drum pads or keyboard playing? (I have those on my Novation Impulse 49 already). Seems an expensive toy... If I could control Live 11 by touch this would surely make the Push almost irrelevant? Or am I missing something here? Any other Push owners, please feel free to chime in with why I should spend so much money if I wont use it for sequencing drums or entering notes into the piano roll? Please convince me I need one as I really like the look and idea, but the cost is too much for an 'experiment' in workflow... and yes, I do use loops alot, so chopping them up is definitely a plus... but a touchscreen could also do this, right? Edit: Ok so after watching the full video, I can see MPE and the scales feature being very handy and the 16 macro function being extremely useful as I mainly use 3rd party VST3's and having knobs to control parameters seems a winner too... Maybe I just need to get one and test my workflow? Can you suggest a good video from your channel for someone sitting on the fence thinking of purchasing? Thanks in advance :)
Hello! Many good questions here and I don’t right now have the time to go into them in detail here - but what I can suggest is checking the free course I have on WRKSHP.eu on arranging with Push. Basically I point out how one can use it for that purpose, but also I mention the drawbacks. Push is amazing for making ideas and making them quickly. It’s far less useful for finishing things or doing complex tasks. The best route in my opinion is to build your own sounds and racks to help you make ideas even more quickly, using push, and then finish the job with Live. I touch upon this in the video about a “modular approach to racks” on this channel. I hope these videos will help! Let us know how you go :)
@@AndriSoren Thanks for the quick reply Andri :) Was actually just about to watch that very video (currently watching 'Unstuck #5: Ableton Push changed my life: A Love Story' LOL... Will definitely check out the 'free course' and if (probably when) I get one, I'll be sure to get your paid course as you seem to have the best knowledge of anyone I've seen on RU-vid :) Thanks again, love the channel, newly subbed and now back-catalogue surfing 😃
@@vdub4216 my pleasure, and thank you for the kind words! Out of curiosity are you already using a touch screen for Live? If so how are you finding it?
@@AndriSoren Not yet.... but I have pretty much exhausted my search on the subject on RU-vid and forums. I'm aware since Live 10 the introduction of 'Tablet Mode' that got rid of of the old 'script' needed in 9. Also understand that Live is not multi-touch but that doesn't phase me too much... A 24" touchscreen will set me back around AUD$450 as opposed to AUD$700 for a used Push2. I started this entire research journey as I wanted to invest in motorised faders / controller and was debating Icon Qcon Pro vs Behringer X-Touch... but then stumbled on other videos of Live being controlled by touch and seemed to work well... this then led to the question, hmmm, would a touchscreen then kill the need for a Push as I would also have control over VST parameters and the ability to just 'draw' my automation, edit, etc directly into Live.... So here I am, given up on the motorised fader / controller idea and now just left with the question... Do I need a touchscreen and a Push? I can see alot of features crossing over into one another... I still plan on the touchscreen but am just trying to get my purchasing in order...which first? Side note - There are almost ZERO video's on RU-vid with people using Live with a good touchscreen so maybe will need to upload a few once purchased... I'm leaning towards the Push first I think as I covers alot of bases.
@@AndriSoren so here we are 6 months later and I have scrapped the touchscreen ideas and purchased a Push !!! Just waiting on delivery now then I will FINALLY take your course !
i would love to have a mastering ingen included so you can master well recording you clips to session view or afterwerds and maby each button on the 64 grid could be a different vst for that track you just press the button you have 16 nobs and you move down
Hello! Thank you! I don't - but I've had a number of people take the Push 2 Bible with Push 1 and it's worked out absolutely fine. Don't hesitate to write to me if you have more questions - see the contact page on wrkshp.eu :)
Hey David - great question - the best you can do right now is duplicate a note/step where you’ve already programmed in some probability. You can do this with the drum and melodic step sequencers.
Polyphonic Aftertouch works on Push 1 as I recall! Neither Push 1 or 2 had full MPE. See this page - halfway down - help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019144999-MPE-in-Live-11
Hello MyTH, that was the main reason I made this video, to highlight the few changes that have come with Live 11. When I update the Push Bible however, I will aim to add any critical updates that I can. I've already added notes in some areas where things have changed just a little, and will keep doing so. Don't hesitate to contact me at wrkshp.eu@gmail.com if there's anything else.
@@AndriSoren I'm only about a quarter of the way through your course but it's easily the best course I have taken on push, paid or free. I am really enjoying it and look forward to your future work.
is the push sequencer able to display different number of steps per note outside of the grid? In other words, can we now use the Push to display and create euclidian sequences with Live 11? Cheers
The Push is not an MPE instrument. In order to utilize MPE, the pads would have to be position sensitive, which they aren't. All you did was apply pressure (aftertouch) which has been on the Push for ages. Just sayin'
Indeed it’s not, just as I mentioned in the video. You’re right that we would need some kind of X-Y control on each pad for it to delve deeper into MPE. The addition of polyphonic aftertouch is >far< better than the monophonic aftertouch we had until now. Cheers!
7:43 The statistical magic is that unless you sample some outside analog source a computer can never generate truly random numbers. In fact computers are surprisingly bad at this.
Good video, but it's unfortunate how you're all the time implying that there's very few VST synths supporting MPE (but it will pick up because of Live 11), whereas in reality majority of plugins released in past 2-3 years already do and many were updated for MPE, there's lots of controllers supporting polyphonic aftertouch (like Launchpads) and some DAWs were supporting it on Push2 way before. Live is awfully LATE to the MPE game and it has to be clearly said.
Artur you make a good point - thank you! I think indeed due to my exclusive use of Live that MPE has arrived more slowly in “my world” and hence my visibility on that has been less. You’re right to pick me up on it. What is true is that (as I’m sure you’ll find frustrating) the initial comparability between Live 11 and MPE enabled plugins is limited, for now. I do also recognise what you say about the speed of uptake of MPE in Live versus some other daws. I should have explained it better, and what I meant. It was a long night of recording, in my defence :)
I don't think that Live 11 is LITERALLY around the corner. I mean what corner would that be? It's not around any of the corners of the building that I live in 😏 Seriously why do people keep using the word 'literally' in the wrong way? 😂😔 Thanks for the vid though 👍
