Foreign policy analyst Jon Hoffman discusses his recent article and worldview. "The special relationship does not benefit Washington and is endangering U.S. interests across the globe." foreignpolicy.com/2024/03/22/...
Why does this conversation revolve entirely around Israel’s strategic interests and concerns? The point of the discussion was supposed to be about US interests?
The settlements started in 1967 after Egypt after F'd around and found out. Don't F around if you don't want to find out. Never again means never again.
You come across as just a comedian. However, your debating skills, particularly your ability to trap opponents, are quite impressive. Let's get you on Piers Morgan...
In 2006, Israelis didn't just pull out of Lebanon because they wanted to. Hezbolla made them leave through gorilla war. The Isrealis left because they were losing many soldiers.
I'm not all in on any position on this, but it really feels like he repeatedly avoids dealing with all the difficulties that would obviously follow as a result of his prescribed course of action. What is the right course of action? I have no fkn idea. Everything seems like a bad idea at this point. But this guy is incapable of 2nd order thinking
They will irreversibly label you an A N T I - S E M I T E for simply pointing that out... I am so terribly ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life.
The fear from the host is imaginary and catastrophic. It’s like they are afraid of zombies. All you have to do is help the Palestinians to have a sovereign state. The solution is simple.
Can you support that claim or is it just something you're saying? They attacked in 1929 and 1936 because they didn't want Jews immigrating to the region. Now you say they attacked because they want a state?? What about from 1948 to 1967 when Jordan and Egypt controlled Palestine? Why didn't Jordan and Egypt give them a state?? It's because this is not about that. It's about the fact that the Jews didn't convert when dude man arrived in medina.
The bottom line is that we don’t torture and kill innocent people. Period. If someone was persecuting you, Jon, I would not accept it. No matter what silly excuse they gave me. I don’t ate what religion you are. Nobody cares what religion you are - except weirdos. Normal people want the basics - a good life and they really don’t care what religion you are. It is not about religion - it is about freedom and opportunity to travel and support their family in peace. Israel is not allowing them freedom. Just like you and Ivwant and deserve freedom, they deserve it too.
Also, where can they go? It is not like have options. They don’t have dual citizenship. Do you really think that they wouldn’t like to the West? That they want to live in slums in Gaza? They would move if other countries would accept therm. Please read my other reply to you - I sent to myself by accident.
@@newidealism3894 Many Jews left Israel long before it was conquered, years of drought, a search for a better way of life, etc. A good portion of Palestinians are in fact the original Jews. They stayed while everyone else left, some converted, others paid the Poll Tax, even David Ben Gurion knew this. Lastly, during the Arab Conquests, the Arabs were smart conquerors for their day, they didn't force conversion, they generally left local customs and religions intact, thus making it a bit more palatable to pay the taxes the Arabs demanded. Jews would eventually go live in all of those surrounding Arab countries for over 2 millennia in relative peace compared to what they went through in Europe.
@@redspock nothing you said about history supports the idea that a generation of young people in Palestine radicalized by hateful enemies of Israel would back off if they were given statehood. You are getting played. You are getting tricked. Or you are one of the evil people trying to trick the rest of us. Arab Nations refused to accept Palestinian refugees, because evil people still trying to destroy israel. Hezbollah from the north, and Hamas from the south. But you and others continue to pretend it's all about people wanting freedom and statehood.
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible ways. I am ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
So the host doesn't see 🇵🇸 as wanting 2 state solutions when bibi came out saying that he was proud for thwarting the forming of the state of 🇵🇸!! He is wayy to biased!! He wants hizbollah honour their agreement when 🇮🇱 as a matter of fact didn't honour the Oslo agreement , sabotaged then willingly! 🇮🇱 will never have peace until they start loving their children more
Hey man do you want to have me on? I’ll be nicer than I am in these comments. I know a decent amount and more to the point, I can communicate things in a refreshing way.
Hoffman didn’t make any sense. He seemed to cling to certain set of premises, but clearly hasn’t thought through the counter arguments to his worldview
@@Santirata they’ve been under a 20 year land, air and sea blockade. And they also can’t come and go as they please. There’s a reason international orgs and humanitarian orgs describe Gaza as an open air prison. It is occupied from without vs within.
Well, I’m an Israeli and there no Israeli who studies and reaserching geo strategy who think Israel doesn’t face an existential threat. Saying Israeli doesn’t really need to worry about the threats around it or non of them and especially all of them together are not existential is very American of him to say. He is missing a lot most likely because he is looking at what’s going on here oceans away from here
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible ways. I am ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
@@mmm-mq3zr Listening to this made me think about you or our short exchange here. I see where you coming from now. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yKoUC0m1U9E.htmlsi=tKDhJk9zjDtvrM4Y I think you are wrong but I understand now. Hope better days will come soon, all the best.
Has Hoffman been to Israel? No. Has he been to Palestine? Who knows. Enough with these debates with American analysts who have no real world experience.
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible ways. I am ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
I have been listening for a while and this episode is the episode that made me subscribe. Noam was amazing! Noam, I wish you could take this show on the road. People need clarity. Israel is the only democratic force in the Middle East so how would all of these anti-Israel people feel if it didn't exist and the Arab states aligned with Russia? Not to mention all of the "liberals" who would be executed in three seconds if they lived in some of those countries? It is shocking how smart people can not see their internal anti-Semitism.
😂😂😂 I'm really want to be honest with you, nothing made sense from what you were saying, most people who have humanity and compassion see that Palestinians were suffering since 1947-48 and also illegal occupation
‘Most people’ are irrelevant. Informed people read history and understand that Palestinian rejectionism played a significant part in the suffering of Palestinians. The world community recognized the need for partition and the Palestinians refused to compromise and began a civil war that led to their displacement. Facts matter.
@@Dovwssmn-ky7jc learn your own history not Palestinian narrative history but new Israel documented history that even before the "war" started they was already 200-212 villagers cleansed from the inhabitants after the war 506 villagers and city's cleansed and each of them had massacres and inhuman atrocious that killed close to 15,000 people
@@Dovwssmn-ky7jc and that's just 1947-48 Palestinians were subjected to 50× October 7 and also the brutal occupations and apartheid in the West Bank and the open air prison in Gaza and worse of all Israel is currently committing pluasible genocide by the ICJ, so you are telling me, you eating shit and tweeting knows more than human rights report, ICJ, B'Tselem Israel human rights, amnesty international, and every respected international human rights watch please stop the psychosis.
and that's just 1947-48 Palestinians were subjected to 50× October 7 and also the brutal occupations and apartheid in the West Bank and the open air prison in Gaza and worse of all Israel is currently committing pluasible genocide by the ICJ, so you are telling me, you eating shit and tweeting knows more than human rights report, ICJ, B'Tselem Israel human rights, amnesty international, and every respected international human rights watch please stop the psychosis.
Democrat USA are an enormous liability not just for Israel but for US allies in general. In Israel, all the upper echelon of the army is basically taking orders from the Pentagon and loosing the war on Hamas in spite of the tactical prowess of Israeli officers and soldiers on the ground.
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible ways. I am ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible, terrible ways. I am ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
Is that the best you got? When you got nothing on your side, you pull out the arrogance card. Of course, what else is left when you have no credible argument on your side. Well guess what, that won’t work anymore. You get over it.🙂
Glad I came across this channel and have now subbed. Probably would have found it earlier if it weren't called "Comedy something..." as I would normally avoid such a thing like the plague as I would assume Joe Rogan and his non-funny uninformed idiot bros' terrible takes on everything... this isn't stupid at all :) There's a compliment in there somewhere. Maybe change the name ?
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible ways. I am ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible ways. I am ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
True. The Tucker interview with Putin proved Mearsheimer's worldview is just wrong and highly faulty. So it makes me question all of his other conclusions.
Mearsheimer is well reasoned and well respected and courageous enough to speak against the Neo Con concencus of the Military Industrial Complex in Washington D.C. Jeffrey Sachs is also a courageous hero for speaking out and leveraging his stellar reputation to tell the truth. Same with journalist Glen Greenwald.
41:42 "I'll prove it to you: if Israel makes peace, there's no chance an independent Jewish militia will attack, send rockets etc." Counterpoint: Settlers marauding with impunity, on camera, right now. So host proved himself wrong. Just admit you have some crazy distant family, it isn't so shameful, and a mitzvah, probably, to have humility and be honest and upright and pleased with God, not idolatrous self-imagery.
I'm not all in on any position on this, but it really feels like he repeatedly avoids dealing with all the difficulties that would obviously follow as a result of his prescribed course of action. What is the right course of action? I have no fkn idea. Everything seems like a bad idea at this point. But this guy is incapable of 2nd order thinking
This is exactly why we need to change our terrible ways. I am so terribly ashamed to be a J E W for the first time in my life. What you are doing over there is causing me in my family to feel very unsafe and it needs to stop.
