MAMAMOO, BTOB, SHINEE, EXO, RED VELVET, SNSD = Live Vocal Power no matter the singing conditions. They don’t hide from encores and behind heavily engineered vocals. They sound good anywhere and with confidence.
Thanks for highlighting Jihyo, Nayeon and Jeongyeon. They sound so stable when performing compared to the rest of the group so you can see they put a lot of effort into their live singing
Yep, that’s mostly because when twice’s survival show was filming those three would have already debuted had not 2 other trainees of 6mix left jype a few months before debut. The Japan team and kids team of twice weren’t set to debut until much training later after 6mix debuted had they were still 6. For example chaeryoung of itzy was on the same survival show. Her skills would be vastly inferior then they are now had she made twice instead of debuting with the regular amount of training she did before itzy. Tzy-yu would be close to yeji level had she not made twice and trained into itzy…
Honestly performing WELL at Coachella says a lot because artists are performing in the worst conditions ever. It's hot, windy, and sandy, and ppl are drunk and a bit gross in general. If you can sing well in such an uncontrollable environment, it deserves so much praise and respect 👍🏻👍🏻
The funny thing with Coachella now is how the opinions of people watching the livestream change things. Actual live show and critic reviews right after LSF's stage were actually quite good, matching reviews for BP 2018. It was only after comments from the live stream about their vocals that the discourse majorly shifted and articles started changing to cover that instead. In a way, it's a bit annoying since the eventual outcome will be performers targeting the streaming audience, since it's much larger, and sacrificing the live performance factors in favor of giving a performance that looks better for recordings instead. Sigh.
@@glaciemdraco yeah!! Everyone who’s covered the song in the past has gotten so much criticism because the die hard fans of BEG always say no one can do it justice. But the fact that Kiss of Life is a rookie group and had the balls to attempt the song (and KILLED IT!) just shows how much skill they have. From what I’ve seen, their cover is being well received by BEG fans
@@hello1868 In front of one of the members, no less. I've seen some people complain that Belle did an 'easier' high note but I also read she did one for like 3 ? people at once so yeah, I dont trust how thats 'easier'. And besides, obviously it wont be the same, they aren't even a year old as a group and BEG were a senior group in their 6th year (apparently, Im just a casual listener at best) when they released that song. Sometimes its not just talent but also experience.
Also, they were saying that there's a reason why SM idols are starting a variety show and hosting empty concerts...like doesn't change the fact their Vocalists are better than most, even their rappers even dare to take on their main Vocalist's highnotes
For me girl Generation, Exo and Red Velvet are best when it comes to live singing. Today's idol start touching their earpiece for bad singing while back in days snsd used to sing entire song without any earpiece
SME really does put a lot of effort, training, support, and expectations when it comes to their vocalist. IMO there isn’t a bad idol who has a vocalist position in SME
@@cokolives Nope. The all hold their own. Sure, two are stronger but the other three are all above average especially compared to newer generation idols.
What? Some of 4th and 5th groups better in real vocal than Red Velvet. Wendy and Seulgi are not the whole Red Velvet... And Mamamoo obviously should be on top with Exo, not GG
Onew recently had 3 fanmeets where he sang live acoustic versions of his songs. I can’t express how refreshing it was and how many years it added back to my life
Mamamoo, Red Velvet and BTOB. I don’t think you mentioned them enough. And for me nowaday people care too much about just hiting the note right (because most of idols now can’t), but not enough about actually enjoy music while singing. Like you can hear Solar excitement in that like 3s clip, not just her singing the rock song live. (Funfact: Most of Mamamoo concerts have more than 50% of no backing track and 100% of live vocal. Even their solo concerts)
The Cream Soda recording behind was one of the best things I've seen in a while, I was truly mindblown. Highly recommend everyone to go watch it, you will not be disappointed.
what i personally love about jihyo's voice is the unique open quality and fullness she brings to her belting. wendy, solar and jihyo, they have these powerful voices
I know there are many artists, but if you are going to do more parts you should definitely include BtoB, INFINITE, SHINee, EXO, Ailee and there are many more actually, KPOP is full of good artists
The lack of clips for ateez🥲 I hope we can get an ateez vocal video soon wether it’s a ranking/analysis or about review of their Coachella performance (little scared of what you’ll say tbh😅). If you do end up making a video like that then I hope you check out the most recent ATEEZ immortal songs performance. For Jongho I think you should check out a video of him singing ‘Everything’ at their concert. I’m also very curious if Jongho’s high note for wonderland at Coachella was good. It sounded better to me but I don’t know.
Don't tell them to go to EXO, they're not ready to accept the fact that EXO can sing live and devours most vocalists in Kpop, they still believe SM idols lipsync 🤭🤭
Something about jyp artists is incredible Even though Itzy is dance based group but they never lacked in serving vocals. Not might be the best on vocal term but they sure can sing well and one of the stable vocalist group. Their live vocal serves well. I'm not jyp stan or big fan of itzy but I can't deny how professional they're
I feel like a lot of people dont talk about itzy’s live singing is because when itzy first started out, a lot of their title tracks had a good amount of talk singing on them. The actual parts singing to a melody were divided up very cleverly and i think it was done on purpose. So a lot of people are of the impression their songs are still structured like that when they aren’t. Really thinking about their songs dalla dalla-loco most of the verses of their songs were talk singing, some rap, and maybe one or two lines of singing. itzy improved on their live singing abilities alot though.
omg yes their past tracks are more talk singing, chanting and rap based and im actually surprised that they started doing more vocal heavy songs at the start of sneakers and bly
Wendy performed ALL her solo music show performances LIVE and I think that kind of bravery and hard work is underappreciated in kpop. I hope live singing becomes the standard and not exception in the industry.
Maybe when companies learned to not give the members lines that are out of their range, groups will not be afraid to sing live. But then again, idols need to do their part and get their sh*t together and not rely on lip syncing and loud af backtracks.
Sullyoon’s effortless live vocal in the bridge of DICE and the fact that she’s arguably only the 3rd best vocalist in the group proves that NMIXX has the strongest vocalists overall. LOVE MY GIRLS
I remember NMIXX haewon said in an interview, that their gen who JYP started the need to practice dancing jumping around while singing on mic as mandatory routine. Which different from TWICE gen where they practice sing and dance separately. Of course NMIXX has different coaching for dancing and singing, but still when practicing they MUST dance while singing. You guys can watch all their videos of choreography practice, all of them are dancing while singing live. Have fun!
bro one group that was/is literally live singing like 95% or more of the time is 2PM, like even when some of them had bad days THEY WOULD BE LIVE SINGING!! of course they mostly have good days, but just wanted to throw some appreciation out to 2PM :3
Vocally, I think the best are 1. Mamamoo 2. Red Velvet 3. Dreamcatcher 4. Nmixx 5. Kiss of life But its just my opinion. There are more amazing vocal groups!
I really admire rv irene and wendy's hard work on improving their vocals. Its rare to see especially they are in a 10-year old group. Their improvements vocally for the last 3 years is chef's kiss!
I'm very proud and happy for ROSÉ, she's never afraid to sing live, even though sometimes she's out of breath but she will definitely still try to sing live as much as she can 🤍
DK (Seventeen) be singing live randomly. Anytime anywhere anyplace. Whether it is Gose or Nana tour. So No doubt on his vocal skills. EXO Baekhyun be practising falsetto's everytime he comes live. Same goes for EXO D.O. & Chen. These idols need no filters. Among all these Idols I will have to mention BTOB. They even sing live in their YT shorts/reels.
Oh my dk 💕😭I fell for his voice the moment I heard his voice when I listened to aju nice 😌 Yes my Ateez 😭💕and the funniest part was there people mad that Ateez was so good at coachella 💀😂 And there’s a clip of jongho during arriba it was heavenly 😔💕
wish you would mention more of shinee on this vocal vids. for eg for recent perf u can check out Dont call me encore. leader of shinee, onew, also held a fan meet where he sang live with no backtracks recently.
The best way to listen to live singing? The Bands!!! They play the music live on their concerts. That's why lately I only have interest in bands. Day6, Xdinary heroes, Ftisland, Cnblue, Nflying, Lucy, Onewe, the Rose etc. And soloists. That's where the real live music is
I am a music lover and what you said about Coachella had surprised me. I have no idea about coachella thing cause never heard of it or about it but i found out today through you.
itzy always surprise me for being so stable while executing their difficult choreography. They are probably the in bottom few in terms of vocal technique amongst the well known 4th gen girl groups but their live performances are never lacking. normally when the dance starts to influence the ability to sing properly, it is very important to fall back on your vocal fundamentals, but with the weak of singing foundation among the members, im always amazed how they still sound so good. either they are tweaking their moves allowing them to have a stable core so the notes come out in a steady flow or they are just practising overtime in which i really commend their effort.
I would love to see each group names be added or mentioned if it's not too much hassle.... unfortunately I'm not that up to date with recent groups so I only recognized NMIXX and Kiss of Life among the newer groups...
I think new groups are starting to show more live singing, except for illit I think the groups debuting so far have good vocals and stability (Btw I'm not hating on illit, some of the girls have potential but they definitely need to improve). I'm curious to know your opinion about the new boygroups too, I think Riize and ZB1 are pretty good. Especially I love Zhang hao's voice and he's always singing louder than the backtrack, even during a dance practice he started to sing when no one was singing. I'm not sure if we will return to 2nd gen era but I wish, because I find more enjoyable to watch a performance with vocal flaws than a performance where they "sing" perfect but look like robots. That's the main reason why I prefer to watch old kpop awards shows
@@luvrinas I agree with everything you said. Taerae is my favourite vocalist of this gen along with Belle. For me kiss of life and zb1 are the strongest 5h gen groups vocally, followed by babymonster and riize
It seems like you’re mainly into girl groups and EXO, but you really ought to check out some other boy groups’ vocals - especially earlier groups. I’ve noticed you tend to play the same artists and clips to represent what good live vocals look like, but never show BTOB, SHINee, or super junior - all groups with some fantastic vocalists.
Hyolyn also has a couple practice videos where she sings live in them! I especially liked her dance practice video of the song "that person of that time"
Haiii, I recently came across this vid of lesserafim singing smarter at the Jennifer Hudson show… people were saying that it was live and all, but I’m just pretty sure it wasn’t. Or it was pre-recorded or it was tuned but it was certainly not live! I would love to hear ur opinion on thissss
Me as a blink & fansé , I really love seeing R in your videos . I know BP is kinda overrated (a little bit) and they are lacking a bit lately, and R is not a vocal powerhouse like wendy , lily or taeyeon. But R truely is capable of live singing and she did most of her performances live. she is carrying the group vocally . Also BP in their debut era esp and in Coachella , they showed us how amazing they are as a Kpop Group. hope we get to see their full efforts in coming projects .
@@luvrinas um just wanted tk , haven't found any detailed yt videos on those groups yet . Thx for ur opinion , wht abt their stability and live vocalsss?? To me they are pretty good (dk abt tws tho)
Btob,exo, mamamoo,svt,ateez,shinee, rv, nmixx babymonster and kiss of life, txt,skz, treasure, BP,itzy, twice, BTS best for me. Those who are saying hybe group not included. Please go and listen SVT,txt and BTS stage encore. Don't judge BTS because of Jimin one stage encores. Even new debut bnd and tws also good. Enhypen and NJ also. They're not best Vocalist but not bad. Danielle and Hanni, heesung,jake are good. Other members are average. Why don't you guys apply this thing to when it's come to twice. In twice only 3mix can sing. Others are average. SM artists rarely sing live. Many times lipsync. They only sing live on stage encores and radio show. It's help to reserve your voice. Don't say hybe can't relate because of Lsf and illit.
@@EverRoxas okay.. In the comments section people are saying Hybe can't relate with this thing. Hybe has many good Vocalists. Just because illit and lsf, other groups are also getting hate.
Next time, I would appreciate it, if you put the artists name and song on screen. There were a few here I would've checked out if I knew what to search. Thanks for the video.
I wish kpop stans can properly understand the difference when it comes to a kpop idol having good vocals to a kpop idol who only have a stability. I've seen comment here inserting performance based groups with no decent vocalist being praised just because they're "stable". The standard is too low because all performance based groups have little to non existent vical skills. Technique wise, none of them are good at singing, not even within their range. Its all muffled, strained & placed well & rarely properly supported. Its ok to praise them but don't make it a standard, being an actual decent, good, to proficient vocalist is competely different on a kpop idol vocalist who always strain & has no proper technique in singing. Having stability doesn't mean that they're technically good in singing.
it really feels like being gaslit en masse by these fans who say that its not an issue...esp when u have been around longer. from radio shows to variety to singing programs to even end of year shows. live singing was always an integral part of an idols career. u cant avoid it. so if u dont do it well, unfortunately, it's noticeable. i have a lot of fond memories of radio show covers and singing programs in particular, and watching this compilation felt like being brought back to that time.
There was also at least one music show in particular that actually banned lip-synching. They may or may not have changed their rules since then, it's been a few years since I was actively keeping up.
Have you heard of 'BINI' (PPOP) live vocals and dance performance, vocal and dance practices? Do some content on BINI please. They recently performed in KCON LA. Try 'Cherry on top' first then 'Karera', 'Pantropiko', 'Born to win', 'Salamin Salamin' - check out their practices especially :)
Wanna hear live singing? Become fan of Pentagon: best vocal line, one of best main dancers (certified), self produced, sing live always, high notes for life, most versatile discography.
Personally i prefer when they have a backing track in low volume and idols sing live on top (im thinking of exo). Thats because i prefer the combination of a great performance and singing... The choreo is important as well. I think idols feel more comfortable with the backing track to enjoy stage.
I'm trying to train my ears better, but doesn't 3:27 sound like autotune? She looks like she's struggling way too much to hits those notes that perfectly. The notes themselves also sound really flat (not in a music note sense, but in the way that there's no shaking or vibrato in her voice).
And before anyone comes for me, Twice is my ULT group. I've been following them since 2017 and I'm in no way bashing or questioning Nayeon's vocal ability, as it's been proved time and time again in Twice's career. I'm only trying to train my ear better to pick out autotune, and that clip sounded off to me.
The clip at 3:35 reslly makes it clear imo that the twice performance was probably live but they used live autotune or something similar, to quite a heavy extent. That is not what an unedited human voice sounds like.
I see what you mean but I think that's... just Nayeon's voice naturally? She just kinda sounds like she constantly has autotune on her voice when singing because of how nasal and forward her voice is. Not denying the fact that there may be vocal processing on their mics at this specific concert but yeah
I feel that all groups use certain tweaks even if there is no backing tracks. Still you can tell the live vocals and enjoy the performances. Relative to TWICE, I have seen them several times, and the stages were amazing.
Losing my mind after spending every video trying to figure out whether it's live or not. I've spent a majority of my time around people who were making a living as vocalists and it's still difficult for me.
