Looking back at this is funny considering the caller predicted we'd be challenging Man City for the Premier League which we did. We then went on to win the Champions League last season, put some respect on Jürgen Klopp's name.
He sounds like an arrogant, entitled muppet talking about trophies last century. "I'm not English...I'm scouse" what a tool! This guy epitomises why people hate Liverpool fans
Neutral Observer. Admittedly I don't live in the UK(London)anymore but I didn't think or realise this was so..In my experience amongst football fans u will find 18ct Idiots&Morons within all the Teams Supporters..Especially with a Bevvy down their necks..I'v usually had pleasant encounters&exchanges with many an Scouser,and they usually have a good sense of Humour..
Jerry Shea :- I understand your view Jerry and I too have met in the past Liverpudlians who have been good fun but things have changed dramatically over the last 25 years mate. Partially it's to do with resentment of Westminster( especially Thatcher and The Tories), more of a connection by some to Ireland and a Republican outlook which invariably leads to a strong dislike of the Royals and the whole "English" or "British" thing, a feeling of being treated differently ( Hillsborough solidified this feeling) and then you have a complete change of viewpoint by predominantly the younger generation. They have not won the Title for almost 30 years. They have grown more and more bitter of the comparative success of Chelsea, Arsenal, City, United and even Leicester City. The days when you could have a pint and some banter with a Liverpool fan have long gone mate. I'll give you an example. Prior to the CL final this season you would have thought that Real Madrid had agreed to just show up and hand the Cup to Liverpool such was the arrogance of the LFC support. Everywhere you looked Liverpool fans were saying it's going to be number 6. EASY, EASY, EASY. Back in the day cheeky Scousers would have said this but with a smile.....not anymore. These fans are angry, bitter, defensive and so arrogant it beggars belief. In a matter of the last 10 years Liverpool fans have completely alienated themselves. This bloke on the video above whether genuine or not is a typical example I kid you not. You cannot have a chat with most of them without them interrupting you and shouting 5 times. You are right Jerry in that it's not all of them but sadly it's most of them!
Neutral Observer. Yes,thanks for the response&heads up..Yeah I'v only spent 18 months in the UK of the last 19 yrs..So my awareness of what's happening on the Ground pales in2 insignificance compared 2u..We certainly live in strange times..I always considered. Myself middle of the road with my Politics,as Well as supporting certain Social/Govermental programs like the NHS,etc..But not now,neither side inspire me,"Birds of a feather"not 2b trusted..And over here in the States,I hold the same views....Take care..
Neutral Observer. How do you know Liverpool are despised up and down the UK ? I personally think you're talking nonsense, I think you're a Manchester United fan who despite your dubious but rather relative success under Alex is absolutely infatuated by Liverpool the City and it's people, who as a city is 10 times smaller by populace than Manchester; with only a much wider cultural heritage due to it being a major shipping port. Liverpool haven't won the league for nearly 30 years and in no small part it may have something to do with some of the things you mention but not all of them; like Thatcher saying "build a wall around them"; after the Toxteth riots which was about racial equality and police brutality nothing more nothing less. Then you have the Hysel disaster which was played in a stadium that was an accident waiting to happen; back in the days when every top club in Europe suffered from hooligans; with English clubs banned for 4 years while Liverpool got 5; if that wasn't enough to turn every clubs fans into anti Liverpool I don't know what is. Next comes Hillsborough a stadium were it's been proven to have not had a safety certificate and were there'd been reports of crushing at earlier games; then the blame by the police, then the s#n news paper; all proven to by lies; men women and children all falsely accused of things that of which they were all truly innocent of. Liverpool fc have some major enemies in the Media/Government/FA but history will tell us its all lies. Liverpool is one of the most friendliest cities in the world but also one of the hardest it all depends on what you're looking for. Liverpool may not have won the league for almost 30 years but you wouldn't be able to tell by the humour that's portrayed out on the streets. Scousers really are the kindest, funniest,craziest people on all of gods earth. Conquering Europe once is good; there's a couple of great teams who'd of loved to have won it but to have won it 5 times and runners up 3 is a truly remarkable achievement so as you can tell we're extremely proud of the men who do and have played in red and why shouldn't we be. You all call us racist but we only hate Mancs. YNWA
Gods Disciple :- You have pretty much just rolled out the same bile as the caller on this video. You have therefore just proved the case for the prosecution. If it doesn't fit your opinion you just make it up instead. Either that or contradict yourself. 1. You say that Liverpool as a city is 10 times smaller by populace than Manchester. 2011 figures. Liverpool pop 552,267. Manchester 510,746. 2. You ask how I know Liverpool are despised up and down the country then say after English clubs were banned for 4 seasons "if that wasn't enough to turn every clubs fans into anti Liverpool I don't know what is" 3. "Scousers really are the kindest, funniest,craziest people on all of gods earth." This is YOUR opinion NOT a fact. I have met some really nice people from the Liverpool area but overall I would rate them behind on warmth and generosity of Scots, Cheshire folk, East Midlands, Black country and West Yorkshire. 4. You say "you hate Mancs". Why? Because you are jealous of their success and the fact that they are adored all over the world and yet you are the first to have a go @ Evertonians for the exact same reasons and call them bitter blues!!!
Telling the guy to calm down but got so worked up himself he had to resort to insults calling him scum and then hung up lol! Was pretty rude in fact, what a tool
England fans : “ We got to the World Cup Semi ! What an accomplishment !!! “ Same England fans : “ How can Liverpool fans be happy about losing in a final !?!?!!” 🤦♂️
Thats not what hes saying, you flipped the argument. The liverpool fan was saying getting to the ucl final was an achievement by beating roma and porto but england getting to the semis wasnt an achievement. The host is saying how is yours an achievement if ours isnt
Ashley Knight Gareth Southgate didn’t actually win anything tho did he...? England got to the semis and it was celebrated stupidly. If Liverpool got to the semis and it was celebrated by Liverpool fans as much as it was England fans, Liverpool fans would be laughed at
@@charliewalker1845 yeah but we wouldn't jump on ambulances or on beds in an ikea store - that's the type of thing chavvy scumbags would do. Oh and by the way - its great to be associated with ze English ;-)
I am not a Liverpool supporter but, Cundy saying Liverpool have won nothing under Klopp looks a complete fool today, European champions and dominating the Premier League, that Liverpool fan must love Cundy's squirming.
In 50 years time they'll still be saying five times 🤣🤣🤣 going on about England fans getting carried away with it, fucked me look how they carried on when they got to champions league final, they thought they just had to turn up 🤣🤣🤣
Would of accepted a lot of things the caller said but when he mentioned he didn't support his country ! I am a scouser and the bars where full of people supporting England , so had to be a wind up call . This guy Cundy should be kicked off the radio for his comment at the end . Obviously doesn't like scousers . Would not listen to this station anyway with there connection to the sun newspaper ...
I've heard a lot of them say they're scousers first and foremost. I must admit, I find them slightly odd and different to any other people in the UK by a country mile. Liverpool itself, has improved (good God it had to), but it's still an unfriendly, grim city. Give me Leeds, Manchester or Newcastle any day.
Klopp has now won every trophy going and England bottled it again after an easy draw to the final at home against an Italy side with grandads at the back.
don't be silly - they beat Panama and Tunisia before losing to major world powers like Belgium and Croatia - if that isn't a reason to raid an ikea or for some fat ugly sl4g to destroy an ambulance then I don't know what is. So proud to be English ;-) Thank fuck we never drew iceland
@@pudboy123456 we had Sweden,Panama,Tunisia and Columbia. Having Belgium doesn't matter if the top 2 in the group progress. We got Croatia because it was the last for which had 2 other teams (France and Belgium) who are insanely good
I cant believe jason cundy lost that argument. Some of the comments the liverpool fan made didnt make sense yet jc was unable to win the argument. How strange
Disappointed at the caller ... but Cundy ... My God. Call yourself a mature human being, let alone a wannabe decent broadcaster? I mean, why bully a caller that is a baby or obviously not all there??! Why go off topic (caller made a valid point that in effect England over-achieved helped by a easy side of the draw) and bait the caller instead. Cundy has a well known hatred for Liverpool. To diminish/mock Klopp's achievements to date is near-sighted - but to call us 'scum' and the caller a 'disgrace' is poisonous. He should get himself checked out. Disgusting.
haha he kept telling Dan to calm down while it was the presenter himself getting worked up and ended it by callimg Dan scum and ending the call😂 WOW! Funny how he couldn't defend the England hype so he just totally swerved the argument altogether and criticised Liverpool FC and its fans for living in the past. Annoying how he was unable to have a simple discussion with someone who took time to call in cos without people like that there is no talksport show and he's out of a job!
Thatcher, the Sun, and the South Yorkshire Police mugged that relationship off a long time ago. I'm not a Liverpudlian but I don't blame them at all for the animosity.
that's some bootlicker shit right there, playDough. Do you really think the hooligans made the fucking STADIUM collapse? Not the decaying concrete and warped re-bar? Liverpool fans make for an easy scapegoat
eyebrows84 fine line between hype and support. support by all means, go watch it in pubs cheer on the team, hype tho is 'it's coming home' when you beat Panama, saying it's England's best ever chance of winning once some of the big teams get knocled out. I'm not bitter at all nor do I have a chip on my shoulder just don't have any interest in England. Wouldn't say i'm unpatriotic either just not interest in England football team. People should be mature enough to appreciate that. Not gonna go into liverpool winning decent trophies cos think thats irrelevant to the discussion. Doesn't really matter if he said 'you lot', still should be able to have a discussion as adults, whether on bemefits or not, makes no odds. My actual point tho was that Dan called and made a point but instead of discussing it he went on to slag LFC. Seems to me he was unable to repute the argument
How I would love Dan to call back now. 18 months on and they have won the champions league and 2 wins away from the prem. Jason must be eating his words! Melt!
Two years later: Liverpool's deluded fan base said they were winning the quad and they ended up coming out en mass to the see the Energy drink cup parade 🤣 still the same PL titles as Leicester and Blackburn.
@@davidtawse6765 your a feckwit aren't you !! I think most Liverpool fans were hoping to win the quad never expected it would of took 2 trophies before the season started so go boil your head asshole
Leon Erin also I never said that. I just said I'd rather be English than scouse. I think it's a disgrace that this bloke wouldn't support the country of his birth.
Jason Cundy should be sacked by Talksport for calling the guy " A Disgrace and Scum " as anyone in the workplace would be if they made these comments . The station advertises itself as an impartial radio station where people have opinions and phone up to view them . A Presenter is employed on the station to listen and debate views by listeners whether they like or dislike that caller's views . It is clear that Mr Cundy does not agree with the caller's views and then resorts to verbal abuse at the caller in which the caller doesn't get a chance to defend himself . This conduct is a disgrace and abusive and in my opinion not acceptable in the work he does . I call on Talksport to remove him from his position . They are said to be the world's biggest sport station so I would expect action on this . Mr . Cundy is very unprofessional as he cannot separate his feelings from personal to professional. I stopped years ago listening to this station for the same reasons . The 2 Mikes are the only decent Presenters there . Please like this comment and support my protest of " Sack Cundy " . I am not on Twitter but people should take to Twitter and get the word out .
crawl back under your rock, i have been a supporter for over 60 years I first watched them in the 2nd Division, so I deserve to happy with their progress
@@ashleyknight5159 where are you fella - gagging to hear from you muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@@ashleyknight5159 fair play to you. Champions of England. Champions of Europe., Champions of the world. No other English team has managed that - and none will ever do it like we have
@@pudboy123456 to be fair hard to say never but what there doing u just have to admire it tbh I'm not a hater but the way they have done it without spending so much congratulations to them that's all I will say they will certainly go down in history
Why bring the deaths of 96 innocent people into it? Many of them just kids, crushed to death. Banter is banter but when it comes to a national tragedy and you try and bring it in the conersation...its just sick.
I agree England have been overhyped big time (and I am English) so the Liverpool fan is correct to say that. But why is he then comparing Liverpool??? That then makes him look like an idiot and diminishes his argument comparing domestic football to international and calling himself a scouser rather than English. A really bad comparison.
I think Jason Cunty got offended because the caller blames people in the media, like him, for over hyping England. The caller was right, Croatia were the first decent team England played and they lost. England's run was all over the airwaves, from morning till night. Sally Nugent the BBC's sports presenter, was almost wetting her knickers whenever she mentioned the England. The bias amongst the commentators and pundits only served to spur on the opposition, even Luka Modric said that. My favourite was Guy Mowbray, "these English lads are not used to the unsporting tactics of the Colombians, with their diving and feining injury, they are well practiced in the dark arts" like we never see diving and feining injury in the premiership.lol.
Peter Young Peter Young Why do those commentators you mentioned have to show impartiality? They're English, broadcasting to a predominantly English audience. Do you seriously believe other country's media don't favour their national team? I speak Spanish and I can tell you Spanish speaking countries most definitely do!
futurez12 Agreed, but that's not the point, I dont care about other countries, we are talking about the English media over hyping a mediocre England team into being world beaters and it actually having a negative effect, by putting pressure on the players and galvanising the oposition. Look at the way that they hyped Harry Kane being the "golden boot" in reality he had a poor tournament and it has emerged that he was'nt even fully fit.
How is that professional !? As for the debate ... England beat no one !!! I do see hope for the future but please recognise that we had a great side of the draw and failed to beat a side that really punches above its' weight.. something we used to do.. now we just have players who earn a fortune for continued failure !!!
Julian Teicht we beat a team in the quarters who beat Holland and Italy to make World Cup , finished top of a group with Germany in , beat Columbia who finished above Argentina and chile in qualifiers to make World Cup , so we did beat people , nothing wrong with being positive about making semis
I'm a liverpool fan, but that idiot liverpool fan has just embarrassed the hell out most genuine fans.I agree that yes our history and past was great in winning leagues and finals but we've done sod all other than winning one of the best finals ever since those glory days. (There's me going on about our past .sorry),They are gone forever and although they are great they are just memories .A lot of the time I cringe as soon as our past is brought up because we rely on it so much in arguments.We have to be realistic and hope our fortunes change pretty sharpish because I hate to say it and I think I'm being honest in saying it's the only argument that we can win in saying what we've won a he'll of a lot more than most clubs across the globe.Its got to change and I hope I'm right in thinking that Klopp is guiding us in the right direction. I'd take winning the premier league over every other trophy going and surely if Leicester can do it liverpool can with the team that's being built.I just pray to God and Klopp it happens very soon or another 10 years will pass and all we will have is memories.Just one last point.Does that lad on the phone realise the England team, (past) at times consisted of 7 or even more liverpool players.So he's knocking them and the Liverpool players who play for England's under 17s right up to the Senior squad.Maybe he will think next time before he dials the number ready to call his country and his own club players who play for his country.Rant over...
alan summ Liverpool can buy players from anywhere they want, and only have maybe 4 other English clubs that can match their spending power. They also comepete for 4 trophies EVERY single season. England have to make do with what they have; have to compete with the best teams in the whole of Europe and the World; are seldom one of the strongest/ best 5-10 teams in the World, and only compete for ONE trophy every two years. Don't really see the comparison myself?
Straw man argument, he wasn't discussing Liverpool he was saying England were over hyped and lucky and ultimately found out. and he is dead right. A team of bottlers made up from half Tottenham players so no surprises at all.
How ironic that we gonna win the league this season and have won the UCL , super cup and club world cup a year or 2 after this call 🤣 Jason cundy eat your words
He should've compared how many World titles Liverpool had compared to England. Not European, plus the season before Liverpool won the 2005 UCL (by basically not being taken seriously by their opponents I have to add) Gerrard the Scouser Liverpool player lost England the European championships with his trademark backpass howlers etc...so it's not a fair comparison to compare 2 team's when they unfortunately have some of the same players... and typically the Scouser doesn't like England just like the Scouser players don't seem to either and play for England with zero passion. Plus Liverpool player has missed a WorldCup shootout penalty in many WorldCup's now I.e Ince 98, good job Gerrard and Carragher weren't at WorldCup 2002 but they both missed in 2006 and Henderson the only player who missed for England this year.
That fan is wrong and right about England if we came from Brazil or Germany even Spain most of the country would be saying England our shit so i can’t be two face just cause i live here. Cause that is the only reason i support England if Jamaica was in the world cup consistently i wouldn’t give England the time of day. They get so much love from the country spending time and money to support them and England never deliver im Rasta i support the truth and to me the truth is England players get paid so much money and never win shit im with that guy England need to fix’s up
beyond72 I know they don't get paid to play for their country. They eat from sponsorship & television deals same thing really. Either way they get paid millions it don't really matter how they get paid just know they eat well
Cool. Well the clubs make so much money, the players deserve their cut. But at the same time it's hard to feel sorry for a player who's had a bad game when you see him get in a top of the range Bentley after!
beyond72 Of course they deserve they're cut that's not what we're talking about what i am saying is as much as they deserve their money we deserve to see them win a world cup. Cause let's have it right England's group was light work apart from Belgium who have world beaters in the squad but lack experience and i don't think they have ever won the world cup. England spend the most money on football because it's theirs so they need to win a euros or something really soon if not for the country then for themselves
Frank Mccormick Sorry i don't get how it's funny to bad mouth your country. I understand your frustration, it must be embarrassing for every Liverpool supporter to hear this . As for calling me a twat i'am a real Englishman so name calling has no effect, it just makes me smile.
The Liverpool fan was right about England. Lets be honest , it was a third rate world cup and England are not really that good. Many previous England teams were much better. However I find it a bit weird in what he said about Liverpool fans dont like England , is this true ? Anyway Cundy should not have called him scum , so what if he does not like England.
@@meldme yeah and judging by this comment section and that I used to live in liverpool its actually more than one bellend who thinks like that, the comment was two years ago, keep up laaa
I find it quite funny that Cundy and his ex-wife appear on Good Morning Britain every now and then. Lower level ex player and WAG. Must be still be chasing that £ and fame on both sides. Maybe the divorce settlement was not enough for her and Jason Cundy's player career was hardly illustrious. I think he spews this shit in order to be controversial and garner attention! He is more noticed now, then ever in his playing days. lol.
@@MarkSmith-er7fe LMFAO youre a bitter Chelski fan. got beat again on the weekend and now want the season prolonged because fat frank is gonna get sacked LOL - shitty little club, shitty little fans. And the Chelski reject Jaon Cunty is a prime example of that. Only won 1 title Lamps told Klopp? well, he's won a lot more than that. But in fairness, he don't have a ply-off and FA Cup runners up medal LOOOOOOOOOOL
This is like the dumbest debate ever. I’m a Liverpool fan we haven’t won anything, but have the chance to do so every year. I’m a massive England fan as well and in my eyes they didn’t take the advantage of the route they had to get to the final and I do think France would’ve smashed England anyway. The frustrating part is when Belgium are far ahead of England just shows far English players have fallen behind as well.
NOTE: England under the cosh v Croatia 20 minutes to go... Couldn't get a touch on the ball! Southgate jerks Sterling for Vardy! Should of been Delph for Alli OR another.. for a midfielder as to shake it up a bit and get back in it. Vardy didn't even get a touch. Great management that!
Ironically, it's ridiculous comments like that and overused stereotypes of Liverpool fans which is exactly WHY most of them hate England. Why the fuck should we have to be put up with being berated year on year by rival fans (far more than any other set) and then link arms and sing Gareth Southgate songs with them whenever an international tournament comes about? Fuck England, they were absolute shite anyway.
What small mindedness, reminiscent of Carragher the legend in his own mind. Fortunately not all scousers are like this. The World Cup is bigger and more important than the champions league, fact. If you want some equally daft comparisons to Dans here's a few... England werent beaten 6 - 1 by Stoke, or held 0 - 0 by a relegation form Stoke at home.
damn right - we wish we could have been FA DCup runners up last season and got knocked out of Europe by Seville. Can't understand why Shakiri and Fabinho fucked off the mancs to go to Anfield either
Why cant people accept that any man or woman can support who the hell they want. If a man don't wanna support England or wants to love his local team above all then that's up to them. Regardless of we agree or not why do people actually give a shit.
Well said Jason, also Chelsea beating Bayern (at home) was a greater achievement than Liverpool in Istanbul. We beat two of the best teams ever Braca (at the top of their game) but media will never give us the credit we deserve.
Bro stfu. 3-0 down verse one of the best sides in history. That shitty final comes nowhere near Istanbul. Istanbul is the greatest champions league final ever.
@@joshg2603 Not on your Nelly you beat a crap shitty Milan side, compare those mugs to the best Barca side ever (with 10 men) and them beating Bayern at home? Stop listening to the media hype and look at the facts.
@@dtrueblue6322 look at the facts. Bro we’re talking about the final it’s self. So I don’t realise why you’re bringing up the semis haha. You can tell you have already lost this argument when you have to bring up the round before it. The Bayern game was a bore until the last few mins. Nothing compares to Istanbul. NOTHING. 3-0 down to one of the best teams ever made. Came back in 6 mins. Went on to win number 5 (which is now, as you know number 6). It got voted by so many as the best final ever. And you want to come and tell me about a game where Chelsea got the shit beat out of them and scrapped a win at the end. Liverpool ran the milano team around with the likes of baros, traore, kewell and many many more average players.
@@dtrueblue6322 if you tell me the Chelsea game is better because of last minute goal, I can’t be arsed listening to you. How many last minute goals have happened in all champions league final? And now tell me how many teams have come down from 3-0 to go and win it in the second half, in a champions league final?
He's English. He lives in England with no ties to Croatia yet he was cheering on Croatia. What an idiot! I understand some fans prefer club to country but this guy takes it way too far.