Living an intersex life

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According to statistics cited by the U.N., .05 to 1.7 percent of the world's population is intersex, defined as having external or internal sexual organs that are not clearly male or female. As a matter of course, doctors in the past performed surgery on babies, ostensibly so that they would live a "normal" life. Correspondent Erin Moriarty talks with Pidgeon Pagonis (who was born looking female on the outside but also with testes and XY chromosomes) about Pagonis' memoir, "Nobody Needs to Know"; with professor Elizabeth Reis, author of "Bodies in Doubt: An American History of Intersex"; and with urologist Dr. Ilene Wong, who believes the medical community has failed intersex patients.
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@maggiemacha5552 11 месяцев назад

Much gratitude for all those brave humans speaking up and advocating! This is a long overdue conversation!

@StefanieAnneMarie-q4y 6 месяцев назад

😢and the human being rights are still happening 😭 todai thanks to the ultra rights violent of our minds and bodys todai thanks for getting these human being s rights 😢out 😭 todai to the public 😢

@dicedrice7216 11 месяцев назад

Please let intersex people just be themselves. There was a 20-something intersex person in my neighborhood when I was growing up in the 1970s. They were born in the mid or late 1950s. Their parents were told, "You're so lucky! You can choose the gender of your baby!" The parents were told it's all nurture over nature, so they could simply choose. Dad wanted a boy. So they raised him as a boy. By the time he was a teenager it was clear to everyone -- even the younger kids in the neighborhood -- that this was not true. It was heartbreaking to watch. He very much struggled. His parents fought bitterly over it -- each blaming the other. Eventually the dad abandoned the family. And then there were the neighborhood meddlers. Even people who barely knew the family had strong opinions. Some thought he should be free to live as a female, and others felt his parents should do more to more strongly reinforce that he was a male. At 31 they took their own life. Rest in peace🕯️

@I_WANT_MY_SLAW 11 месяцев назад

So what you're saying is God makes mistakes?

@susanlena6935 10 месяцев назад

U really explained the damage this has done to ppl. Thank you for your post.

@DigitalMediaPatriots 10 месяцев назад

@@I_WANT_MY_SLAWno one is saying that at all. Where are you getting that?

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

Unfortunately, now this "meddling" has been weaponized politically and people like this are marginalized even further.

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW Seems like man made the mistake, not God. If you believe in God.

@hilpei3675 11 месяцев назад

We just need to see each other as humans, all of us with compassion and cooperation. PERIOD.

@suzannadannaTARDIS 8 месяцев назад

100% THIS

@dorthymcbride3384 11 месяцев назад

This is exactly why we should never judge or make laws regarding anyone's personal sex! It's none of anyone else's business and Congress/Supreme Court needs to mind their own business!!

@Poodle_Gun 8 месяцев назад

At the same time, it's why it should be illegal for kids to have gender reassignment surgery. You have to let the kid grow up and figure that out for themselves. It's permanently limited when you perform surgery. Besides, there's no reason for a kid to be showing their privates to people. I'm just saying, if I was born this way, this is what I'd want. I'd also want to know what chromosomes I have, internal and external organs, and so on. Kids need to be kept in the loop and have personal caseworkers/ advocates.

@0828-d4p 8 месяцев назад

at the same time, puberty can have devastating effects on someone who knows they are of a different gender than their body. @@Poodle_Gun

@f.frederickskitty2910 2 месяца назад

Amen

@tbernstein 11 месяцев назад

The ridiculousness of the comments is astounding. Its a medical malpractice issue, its an issue of doctors "fixing" perceived problems, many times with out consulting the parents. Yet so many of the comments are hateful towards the patient. You have the right to choose any name you want no matter who you are that doesn't diminish the severity of the issue.

@Julieglam3 11 месяцев назад

Thank you!!!

@cstuartdc 10 месяцев назад

I can understand why doctors did this with all the hatred out there.

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

They consulted the parents who were the legal guardians and legally had to make those decisions. The problem is, is that at that time, medicine didn't know or want to know what the long range effects of those decisions would be. Society didn't want deviation then, or now.

@KateBrown-hs2zd 10 месяцев назад

So people need to stop saying there are only men & women. Intersex people are important & matter. As many people that have red hair is how many intersex people there are in the world. And thank you for shinning a light on this. It hasn't been much information on intersex because people where ashamed to tell people. But they have always existed.

@Nikki-ks6wi 10 месяцев назад

Intersex isn’t the same as plp having fully developed body parts choosing to be different. I think intersex are the ones who actually should have the chance to choose.

@BunnyMan-ec4xg 10 месяцев назад

@@Nikki-ks6wi actually it is because genes are just code to tell our bodies to make certain hormones, those hormones tell our bodies how to look and develop. So gender is as simple as taking different hormones. It's not real. Once we get old we stop producing hormones, no matter what our genes are, and we become nonbinary. Look at all 80 year olds, they all look the same.

@0828-d4p 8 месяцев назад

who are you to judge trans people?@@Nikki-ks6wi

@Mouse01011 6 месяцев назад

@@Nikki-ks6wi”Choosing to be different “? so do you assume that homosexuality is also a choice? I’m just asking.

@Pau1ll 5 месяцев назад

@@Mouse01011sexuality and sex are not the same reread the comment

@patriciafeeley7997 11 месяцев назад

I knew a person who worked in a lab at a Boston Hospital in the 80 ‘s. The job was for her to do the various chromosome studies , etc. Tgen she turned the clinical data over to the Doctors to share with parents of intersex kids. This was a classroom environment and we were all asking and Then what? The Doctors and parents Then decided how the child would be raised, male or female. This was 40 years years ago and I honestly believe all parties thought they had the best interest of the child at heart. This is a wonderful piece and I am sorry Pigeon has been hurt, truly and particularly the osteoporosis as frosting. It will stop , things change as more information becomes available. Good for her using her voice

@brendabertsch9352 10 месяцев назад

And early forced menopause. I'm sure she may be on E patches. It really made a difference for me.

@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman 11 месяцев назад

I'm intersex I look male but have female parts on the inside and I have Klinefelter Syndrome meaning that my chromosomes are XXY and I'm transgender and I identify as female

@Dearthvader2 11 месяцев назад

NOBODY CARES

@oc5297 11 месяцев назад

@@Dearthvader2you kinda do!

@Dearthvader2 11 месяцев назад

@@oc5297exactly the glowstick bot personal prejuidice intolerance projecting thing to say. Your motto is rules for thee not for me. And you probably still wear a mask and close outdoor parks for children.

@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman 11 месяцев назад

@@oc5297 yeah or else he wouldn't have said anything

@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman 11 месяцев назад

@@Dearthvader2 why are you making it political?

@luciboras 10 месяцев назад

Intersex is not a condition, it is nature, which is animal, human species.

@aryastark3148 Месяц назад

I don't mind the term condition, it's not bad necessarily. I like the term condition better than disorder.

@conanbarbarian9719 11 месяцев назад

A solid piece of reporting on a shamefully unreported subject.

@milicentAdhiambo-j7z 2 месяца назад

Am also an intersex living in Kenya. But is not easy been an intersex in Africa

@pamboxpam 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for your voice Pidgeon!

@carlytrammell2412 11 месяцев назад

I am so glad that of all the news/media outlets that Sunday Morning has presented this segment. It is so important for people to know and understand this group of our human family. ❤ I'm 45 years old and had a friend as a teen who was born intersexed and his parents consented to surgeries assigning his gender and sex as male. I'm not sure if how much his parents knew and understood but they didn't hide it from him and he was open with close friends about it. I'm so very grateful for knowing him and having at least some understanding that there is more than male and female and that our identities are shaped by what happens in our infancy and childhood. The lies doctors have told parents of intersexed newborns should be considered malpractice.

@jones2277 11 месяцев назад

i feel like this is the proper use of "assigning" gender at birth. it should only be used for describing intersex people. it doesn't really make sense for anyone else since their sex is observed, rather than assigned, at birth.

@DigitalMediaPatriots 10 месяцев назад

@@jones2277I don't think you get this at all. There are people "observed" and their chromosomes are intersex but just not tested after being born or till later in life.

@jones2277 10 месяцев назад

@@DigitalMediaPatriots exactly. 98.3% are correctly observed as their sex. Only 1.7% are assigned a sex.

@addictedtochocolateandcoff9582 10 месяцев назад

that was the original use of assigned, trns co-opted the terms just like the co-opted from other oppressed/minority groups[eg 'passing' co-opted from interracial/mixed blcks .... genocide co-opted from gews/other destroyed groups, the list goes on] there's a list@@jones2277

@brendabertsch9352 10 месяцев назад

What a brave person you are Pigon! I've been thru my 10th female cancer surgery and I couldn't imagine what doing this as a little girl. I'm glad that you had a family that supported you. It just goes to show that individual suffering is very unique. I do believe that there is always a silver lining to every moment of suffering. I cope with my own prayer.... Start 3 sentences. Thank God..... At least.... Sometimes...... It's brought me so much peace. My heart goes out to you!

@xelamercedes 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for this report! All of it new information for me. Presented without advocacy or condemnation. So refreshing in an era where more than half of all media has a clear bias or agenda. My heart is breaking for the thousands of little ones who underwent unnecessary surgeries. More collateral damage from the Puritan ethic....

@emmgeevideo 10 месяцев назад

I absolutely think that we should understand things like this and treat people rationally and compassionately. I feel that some small variances in human anatomy and psychology should drive us to alter the fundamental categorization of male and female.

@BunnyMan-ec4xg 10 месяцев назад

@@MrsFarmingtonWhitmoreCom-wj2it parental rights are really overrated and I say this as a parent. In this day and age we have information. If u choose to ignore that information, you don't get a free pass because you wanted sex one night and forgot protection. That's literally all the credentials you need to be a parent. You don't have to be intelligent to get someone pregnant. But you do have to be intelligent to get a teaching degree or a doctorate. Giving birth or getting someone pregnant doesn't mean you know more than an actual expert who studied the subject.

@cariwaldick4898 10 месяцев назад

Funny that they were doing surgeries on infants and children, and never studied if it was really necessary. We're seeing this also in circumcision decisions--though clearly that is less traumatic. With all the controversy around transgenders, and gender re-assignment, this is a good example of why we need to just accept people as they are, and affirm their own choices.

@JanetMarcum-o7r 11 месяцев назад

This is the last time I will use the word hermaphrodite.

@Billy.hoodoo 10 месяцев назад

Same

@sirmadam8183 Месяц назад

Intersex is fairly common. My sibling is a doctor and I remember reading in their medical textbooks in the mid-80's that intersex was actually fairly common. Glad to hear that people are now bringing it out into the open and changing and updating their attitudes

@DougImmel-y2x 11 месяцев назад

We are constantly shown that there is so much we don't know, and yet sometimes we are so quick to act like we KNOW, and then we FEAR differences, and we JUDGE. And cause pain and exclusion, from ignorance masquerading as knowledge, wisdom and conviction.

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

Welcome to the America of today.

@bhlee_whale99 Месяц назад

@@queent3343 For sure. Honey

@aiai-j7i 10 месяцев назад

Poor darling--to have to go through all those surgeries as a little child. Very brave of her to speak out--I hope it helps others in her situation. ❤

@karenjennings3239 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for this story! I remember a kid growing up that was intersex and in those days the word "hermaphrodite" was used, which your story clarified is a slur derived in ancient Greece marking individuals as monsters, which they are far from being. I can only imagine the pain of that kid in Catholic school and the life that he must have led as someone who was intersex. You are saving lives by reporting this and may you forever be blessed for doing so!

@lorettanericcio-bohlman567 11 месяцев назад

We have so much to learn, I wish the people that don’t understand would not go directly to hate

@sarahelliott7926 4 месяца назад

Performing a Vaginalplasty on a young child is totally wrong. I am very sorry this happened. Kudos to you for speaking out, and standing up for yourself!

@Julieglam3 11 месяцев назад

The level of ignorance regarding intersex is evident as depicted in a few of these comments shown here...try reading. You might just learn something...🙄

@OleLockAndKey 11 месяцев назад

Ok boomer

@Julieglam3 11 месяцев назад

@@OleLockAndKey I know...to be informed is so boomer-ish isn't it?? To an internet troll like you. anyway.

@OleLockAndKey 11 месяцев назад

@@Julieglam3"informed" by whom? I'll wait... Also, you don't find it the least bit telling that google/youtube deletes the postings from more than half of the people in the world - in the name of "fact"/"truth"/"hate"/"misinformation"? You think it's normal for a tech company to be able to groom people like you into believing what they TELL YOU to believe? Have you ever thought for yourself?

@lorettanericcio-bohlman567 11 месяцев назад

@@Julieglam3thank you

@samalsrei5089 7 месяцев назад

Please remember that sex is not the same as gender.

@juanesteban8827 10 месяцев назад

We could all learn a lot from the way "Intersex" people are viewed in Native American & First Nation cultures. They are called "Two-Spirits"and they are revered!

@Courtney_Mercury 2 месяца назад

It breaks my heart that doctors weren’t honest with her and her family

@Dearthvader2 11 месяцев назад

No one should be forced to suffer genital mutilation including "circumcised" newborn baby boys.

@JohnnyAngel8 11 месяцев назад

Agree. I've long thought circumcision is genital mutilation. It really needs to be a thing of the past.

@mtns340 10 месяцев назад

This should literally be common sense, yet in the US it is not.

@BooksForever 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the public service, CBS. Conservative media tries to keep their base ignorant and confused with the notion that this portion of our population can serve as a sort of common enemy for them to rally against. Clear understanding should dissipate that simmering anger.

@Pixellava 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for presenting this important story, especially for your older demographic who seems to struggle with understanding these issues.

@emem2863 10 месяцев назад

I think the older demographic is very aware of this topic, except they grew up saying hermaphrodite instead of intersex. It really isn't a new thing.

@BunnyMan-ec4xg 10 месяцев назад

The funniest part is all old people become nonbinary when their bodies stop producing hormones. That's why elderly couples all look alike.

@spiritranger9202 10 месяцев назад

The doctors should just leave the kids alone if they can't tell the sex. Then let the natural process happen and they can figure it out 🤷‍♀️

@gregorypeterson9 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for bringing this to light. Love Pigeon I've seen her podcast and Pigeon is a star and a awesome advocate ❤🧡💛💚💙

@TangibleReads 11 месяцев назад

That's s heck of a thing to find out later in life

@BillPritchard 10 месяцев назад

What remarkable courage

@RandyBurchell 10 месяцев назад

If a person can be born #intersexed on the outside where it can be seen,why can't they be born that way on the inside? Where we cannot see. If we can accept that a person can be #born that way on the outside, why can't we accept that they were born that way on the inside? If everyone could get on board with that, that's one world problem solved! Agreed

@Dearthvader2 10 месяцев назад

Everyone agrees that people are born that way. It is called klepinglers syndrome or something. Maybe do some research and stop just repaeting what others tell you. Ignorance.

@RandyBurchell 10 месяцев назад

@fkutube933 good for you!!! Keep up the great work. But please remember, insults show your desperation for superiority. You are intelligent enough to make your point w/o insults. Right? Thanks for your comment.

@squidvidz934 4 месяца назад

I doubt tho, if intersex is a gender on it's own, why do they require surgery? You know if left unchecked will be detrimental to the person in their adult life unlike one who came out male or female?

@leonardodemelo3711 10 месяцев назад

Nature does what it does… when will we learn to leave it alone and accept that this is part of nature’s plan…. The pain that would be avoided if all people learned empathy and practiced kindness should be the aspiration of every human being! Science and research are wonderful but they can be intolerant….always trying to gear towards the “norm”….I know one day we will get there…. Because in spite of it all…. I truly do believe that we aspire to the light and not the darkness….

@wildflower2092 11 месяцев назад

Wonderful being who we are! Celebrate that!

@theshermer 7 месяцев назад

Thank you Pidgeon for sharing your story. I grew up in the Chicagoland area (still live there) and know of this hospital. It is a good hospital and it is good that it issued an apology to you and other intersex children. We know a lot more now than before and hopefully are realizing that decisions shouldn’t be made just because a child will be more comfortable (or parents). The child will eventually notice and may resent it. They are human and should be treated as such.

@MichelleCarithersAuthor 11 месяцев назад

great story....

@baharam98 Месяц назад

A beautiful person; Much much respect to you for shedding light on intersex. Intersex is not abnormal; it is part of the gender... We need to understand there is female, male, and intersex. And there is nothing wrong with any of them.

@donaldswanson9647 10 месяцев назад

Doctors fixed what they thought was an opportunity for profit. 😂

@Holli_Sassafras Месяц назад

It's abominable to alter a child before they are old enough to decide for themselves. God does not make mistakes. How you are born is how God intended you.

@v.a.993 11 месяцев назад

I really appreciated this story. Everyone who identifies as non-binary is not Intersex, correct? What was the basis for protesting at Lurie Children's Hosptial? Was it to get the apology for Pidgeon specifically, or was it to get the hospital to stop its practice of deciding intersex babies' gender? The statement the hospital issued was just an apology, right? I would imagine in the current climate e.g., the past several years, the hospital no longer performs such surgeries on intersex babies.

@jillevers1432 11 месяцев назад

I actually know someone who is nonbinary. But I don’t know much about….that person’s story to claim he/she is

@conanbarbarian9719 11 месяцев назад

Correct, not everyone who identifies as non-binary is intersex. Intersex is a medical designation, not a gender identity. I believe the protest in question was to advocate against the violent procedures forced on intersex youth to make them confirm with the opinions of doctors and their families regarding what their gender presentation "should" be.

@jones2277 11 месяцев назад

the real nonbinary people are intersex/DSD people. the rest are just engaging in dress-up.

@AlyssaMakesArt 10 месяцев назад

To the first part, Correct. Non-binary is in reference to gender like boy, girl, etc., which is social based (outward) and based on internal personhood. Intersex is biological and based on the “hard” science. I say hard in quotes for a few reasons too length to explain. Both are valid.

@CarrieTrine 10 месяцев назад

Intersex is physical. Non-binary is gender expression. I wouldn't presume that the hospital no longer does the surgeries. A PR response is a far cry from policy change.

@dianabenobo 3 месяца назад

Our intersexuality is universal and inveterate. We are only beginning to learn how to be at peace with it. IMIRU?

@sixinchzipper 9 месяцев назад

What a beautiful and strong person and I’m so grateful they were able to share their story and that I was able to hear it ❤

@kusheran 10 месяцев назад

No one is to blame. Everyone is accountable and forgivable. For 12 to 18 years after birth, the one most effected cannot make their own choice. By the age of understanding, for some, it is too late to prevent all harm. Humans cannot control everything.

@sleepmore8587 10 месяцев назад

john money fabricated the results of his studies, but his research is still used to justify many modern decisions in medicine.

@Nikki-ks6wi 10 месяцев назад

These are the people that deserve a choice in my opinion all facts in front not ideas

@basilrose 10 месяцев назад

Beautiful story. The courage and strength it must have taken for Pidgeon to arrive at acceptance is admirable. My prayer for trans people is to join the intersex community in finding their own acceptance of non-binariness without the tragic intervention of drugs and surgery that -- at best -- can only approximate a binary gender.

@0828-d4p 8 месяцев назад

it's not tragic

@marisilver52 4 месяца назад

Genesis 1:27 King James Version 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

@JamesBrown-ij1px 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing Pidgeon's story regarding this very important issue! Once again, an example that conservative politicians need to keep their own beliefs and their legislation off of the bodies of other people.

@LuckyK7777 2 месяца назад

Except when a woman wants to have 10 kids or doesn’t mind a child with birth defects l, then everyone including Liberals get to chime in⭐️I’m an Independent so I see the real biased logic on both sides 💙blue and ❤️red…Oh, and you both need my vote 😆

@dmeauxoxo 2 месяца назад

If cutting parts off of hermaphrodites have resulted in horrible pain, scarring and early disease....what is happening to children wt healthy parts being cut off to transform into recreated parts....

@rchrdgrn 8 месяцев назад

I'm 69 when I was 15 I shared a hospital room with a boy who had had 15 surgeries to build a penis. At the time I thought he had been injured. But I wonder if this was the case. He was orthodox Jewish And his parents were very educated that probably had something to do with him Remaining a male. Like I said this was the late Sixties.

@bernie_faithfamily7260 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for the Story of your Journey and Personal Life

@suzannadannaTARDIS 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for interviewing Pigeon. I happened on their RU-vid videos several years back and found Pigeon to be such an engaging speaker. I purchased the book - cried throughout Nobody Needs to Know. Pigeon is an amazing human for sharing their story to help us insure ensure no other child is assigned a gender when born intersex in the future.

@Wudup 10 месяцев назад

And the doctors just had to f with her. SMH Unbelieveable. She's beautiful. ❤

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

The point was making her acceptable to society. And as her intersex self, society still is most unaccepting.

@riobrasilsambashowssambist1453 9 месяцев назад

5:40 omg she looks just like her mom so cute

@blakeposter7496 11 месяцев назад

She may not have intended to but she just made the case why you dont alter a childs sex before the age of consent

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

Here's another thought about that. She didn't know she was intersex, nobody was honest with her. She may have been able to identify which gender she wanted long before the age of consent.

@CarrieTrine 10 месяцев назад

No one does that. Gender affirming care for minors consists of clothes, pronouns, names, maybe hormone therapy and mental therapy. Not surgery.

@mtns340 10 месяцев назад

yet it's completely legal to feed your kid fast food & soda every day, setting them up for serious diseases and health problems as an adult. and that affects waaay more kids than the miniscule number getting hormone treatment.

@Bethelaine1 4 месяца назад

Keeping secrets from a person about themselves is the problem. Making choices for them is the problem, telling them they don’t know who they are is the problem. No infant should go through this.

@ProfessorCrickets-gc8ll 18 дней назад

It's not Y chromosome that makes boys boys, it's the SRY gene that sits on Y that makes boys boys. If SRY is missing, an XY individual will develop as a girl-like person.

@katherineking3174 4 месяца назад

They always apply!!!

@DigitalMediaPatriots 10 месяцев назад

Matt Walsh would have never handled this conversation.

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

Yep. His head would have exploded.

@Dearthvader2 10 месяцев назад

I do not agree with alot of what matt walsh says but he has always acknowledged that people born intersex are real. So obviously you have no idea of what youre talking about. Youre just parroting what others say.

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

@@Dearthvader2 Matt Walsh thinks being gay is a choice and supports conversion therapy. So what he thinks about intersex is definitely lost in the other noise he generates.

@fuzzmuscle69 10 месяцев назад

4:22 - very important.

@AnonymousAccount514 10 месяцев назад

its a very difficult decision to make....lets assume the doctors didnt touch her and left her just how she was....her life could have been just as difficult...and she could be complaining to us how we didnt do anything and "put her in this position"....there is no clear answer...either way....she would need to ACCEPT what she has

@metaldemort 10 месяцев назад

Please speak over intersex people's voices. Thank you.

@c0uchsl0uch Месяц назад

Did they say PIGEON BEGONIAS ? 🤣🤣🤣

@DanielleA2023 10 месяцев назад

Diversity is the key to a prosperous joyful successful and sustainable Future for All 💖

@katherineking3174 4 месяца назад

I've heard about him

@dustincarter6839 10 месяцев назад

Strange but true, live and let love.

@PFJ7 4 месяца назад

Gods creations are so extraordinary 💝💙💝

@ChuckKarges 7 месяцев назад

I got changed at 9 was on a doughnut for a few months drugs and brain washing that made me an mean fought with it my whole life never got close to love trust issues still have them I just want to be left alone that's all

@lauren6509 10 месяцев назад

Unconsenting surgeries on minors should be outlawed

@emem2863 10 месяцев назад

I wonder if Pidgeon has androgen insensitivity syndrome. This was covered well. However, instead of saying gender, biological sex should have been used. In today's world, gender can be chosen, but biological sex is predetermined. Thanks for sharing your story Pidgeon. Hopefully, medical providers will stop performing these surgeries on intersex children.

@mtns340 10 месяцев назад

did you not watch this video at all? intersex people don't have a predetermined biological sex, they are literally INTERSEX.

@BunnyMan-ec4xg 10 месяцев назад

Yeah but biological sex isn't accurate either. Junk don't always match the genes.

@sam15342 10 месяцев назад

yes. Pidgeon has Partial Androgen Insensitivity Sydrome.

@Deerhunter-fo5mw 7 месяцев назад

is intersex the ssme as being a hermaphrodite? i mean that in the most respectful way possible im jus truly curious if its the same thing a variation of it or something completely different all together?

@happycook6737 4 месяца назад

Intersex is the new name for the "h" word. The "h" word is now considered stigmatizing and denigrating. Frankly I find it ridiculous to play these semantic games like calling homeless "unhoused" or illegals "undocumented".

@audieboykin175 10 месяцев назад

this very thing happened to me

@elainegonzaga2867 7 месяцев назад

Everyone: let's all share link to this story far and wide to help open eyes of those who believe there are only 2 genders and demonize sexual activity they dont understand

@positiveandstrong 11 месяцев назад

The state of Minnesota has the population of the country of Japan?!?!? (1:33)

@linguaphile42 10 месяцев назад

Yes, that struck me, too. What she might have been referring to is that if you take the U.S. population of 331 million and take 1.7% of it (the upper end estimate of babies born intersex), that's the equivalent of the population of Minnesota. Then, if you look at the pop. of Japan vs world pop., that is 1.7%, but that one doesn't quite work out. She's trying to put into real context how many people this affects, and is really is more than most people would think. A high school of 2500 could have as many as 42 kids who were born intersex.

@tnomi1965 10 месяцев назад

What she meant is that the number of intersex people is either the same as the population of Minnesota or the population of Japan (or somewhere in between). That's how wide the range of estimated number of intersex people is.

@jodymazzarese5151 10 месяцев назад

I learned about hermaphroditism from Dr. Marcus Wellbee back in the 70’s … a little digging into this condition they might find one twin never fully formed.

@blackbroadwayandbeyond 9 месяцев назад

I love Marcus Welby! Wish I could find the full series somewhere.

@StefanieAnneMarie-qe6fj 4 месяца назад

❤. In this matter the public is not informed or educated about the truth of being intersex. Get ahold of the book work book about "on being intersex in the binary world" from beacon publishing company of New York. This is free order it and read discuss copy and share with your friends family associates and everyone that is curious about this subject matter

@daneblack2593 4 месяца назад

I like him or her whatever you want to be called strong person

@rchrdgrn 8 месяцев назад

This message needs to be listened to by the trans community that advocathe reassignment surgery just based on choice. All these complications apply to them. Surgery is not the answer. It's risky painful and has no chance of creating a fully functioning person Of the opposite sex.

@sierrachoco5271 10 месяцев назад

IMO There are 3 genders - male, female and intersex. You are who you are and you're born that way so I don't understand why people get so upset.

@SS-cc8wr 8 месяцев назад

Speak out!

@ricknorris1466 23 дня назад

Sounds like there should have been a 3rd human in the Garden Of Eden.

@BDgamer333da2 4 месяца назад

I'm a intersex person ❤️😘 But I leaned how to love himself ❤

@kdoeastvalley 11 месяцев назад

According to National Institutes of Health, the number of intersex persons in the general population is 0.018. That estimate is considerably less than the percentage reported in this piece. This piece is misleading.

@conanbarbarian9719 11 месяцев назад

Your statement itself may be more misleading actually. The source you cited: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/ This piece by Sunday morning does cite the more common statistic, and there is academic dispute over it, as cited in the abstract of the study you suggest. The point should be that the number is unclear, but this makes the presentation of this minority group no less important. The debate is about who gets to be included in the term "intersex", not whether more or less of such people described in either case exist. It is an argument over classification, not existence. The numbers describe two groups of people, with the larger one being more inclusive.

@xelamercedes 11 месяцев назад

The topic is only now coming out of the shadows. There will likely be some discrepancies, and controversies for a while. Let's just take a breath and wait before the blaming and criticism starts.

@queent3343 10 месяцев назад

@@xelamercedesYes. A very, very long breath.

@mtns340 10 месяцев назад

It's not misleading, they didn't give an exact number, only speculation. You're making things up.

@Billy.hoodoo 10 месяцев назад

:( I’m embarrassed and I feel beyond ignorant . I’m ready for our views to be our own we as in humanity needs to control the paradigm how can we have a conversation with everybody . We got race issues , sexuality , finances , health , education, issues , how can we heal.

@catholicfemininity2126 10 месяцев назад

Uhhh, babies sex is hard to determine as babies. A baby could literally pass for a boy or girl. You can't tell.

@midlanddreamhomescindymunr6934 9 месяцев назад

This is sad - they could have done a surgery to allow this person to develop as a male as the chromosomes and hormones would have naturally done and they could have possibly fathered children if they wanted to. They knew the chromosomes of this person and sexually castrated them.

@davidrosen5137 6 месяцев назад

The development you're suggesting occurs during embryogenesis.

@happycook6737 4 месяца назад

Undescended testicles can easily become cancerous. No way to make them descend.

@StefanieAnneMarie-qe6fj 4 месяца назад

Sadly 😢 the truth is the correct ion is considered normal and right 😢 but it's o so wrong morally in every way.😢😢😢

@valarieballog6218 4 месяца назад

What are they supposed to do?

@Okkal464 Месяц назад

Nothing

@gabriel99999-r 12 дней назад

I think intersex is a medical condition. If we take the example of 6 toe cases I don't think that could be considered part of a healthy body. Cases of deviation (with no intervention) from the original matrix of the parents can't be seen as normal, right or healthy even for the only reason of the initial function in the original matrix not being found in the descendent, meaning "less" for the descendent.

@joeybaseball7352 9 месяцев назад

Who names someone pigeon?

@Andrea-xs4ny 7 месяцев назад

According to the video, her birth name is Jennifer, so she named herself Pidgeon.

@Sj27m 11 месяцев назад

Unnecessary surgery pushed on parents by doctors that children later regret when they become adults. Why does that sound so familiar?🤔

@OleLockAndKey 11 месяцев назад

This...

@oc5297 11 месяцев назад

There’s a very clear difference between a baby and a young person who has the agency to have life altering procedures.

@OleLockAndKey 11 месяцев назад

@@oc5297yup! 8 year olds have life figured out! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤡

@Dearthvader2 11 месяцев назад

Including "circumcision" right..?

@Sj27m 11 месяцев назад

@@Dearthvader2 I've never regretted my circumcision. Glad i dont have yellow goo build up on mine.🤣 I'm talking about surgery that people actually regret.

@charlesstiebing9231 10 месяцев назад

when Pidgeon's chromosomes confirmed male, all subsequent medical assistance should be based on this fact.

@Dearthvader2 10 месяцев назад

Thousands of people are born with the gender specific dna that oppose their physical bodies. Which means they are born male with female dna or female with male dna. Read a book.

@DesertRascal 9 месяцев назад

It's an insult to intersex individuals having their real challenges hijacked by those who misappropriate gender.

@morriswilburn9858 4 месяца назад

The parents and doctors need the wisdom of Solomon to decide what to do. But I do agree that if medical intervention is needed, it should be done as an infant. In order to function very well in society, a person must know what he/she is with respect to gender, and learning that begins early in life.

@jones2277 11 месяцев назад

there's no way to know if not having the gender-conforming procedures would have had a better result. Pidgeon could be on this same segment crying about being alienated and harassed for a confusing sexed appearance. imagine growing up a teenage boy with a micropenis or a vagina. Roshaante Anderson's perspective on this is especially illuminating.

@mtns340 10 месяцев назад

Pidgeon was upset by health conditions that occurred due to the operations, like the osteoperosis. That's something that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

@Seekthetruth3000 11 месяцев назад

So, does she/he date males, females, or intersex people?

@debbiehunt5940 11 месяцев назад

Do you? Cousin it!

@JohnnyAngel8 11 месяцев назад

It really doesn't matter. Attraction is in the mind, not the genitals or lack thereof.

@jones2277 11 месяцев назад

@@JohnnyAngel8 that's a lie!

@xelamercedes 11 месяцев назад

Odd question steeped in assumption. Maybe they don't date at all. What then?

@JohnnyAngel8 11 месяцев назад

@@jones2277No, it isn't. If you knew anatomy and physiology, you'd know that the body's largest sex organ is the brain.

@suther0938 10 месяцев назад

Become a parent , then you make there decision with information given to you. You should off, then later you wish to did not. Life, . Is she attractive to men or women,?