lizzie saltzman | "I'm just shattered" [+2x04] 

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Totally agree. Lizzie doesn't always make the right decision, but everyone around her routinely uses her as a scapegoat for things that were NOT her fault.

I don't think Penelope really understood the saltzman twims relationship, she tried to villainize Lizzie to get Josie to stand up for herself. She doesn't realise that a lot of the hurt Josie feels is self inflicted and not Lizzies fault. Lizzie would never intentionally hurt Josie and would die before killing her in the merge.

I’m not sure if chris wood is up for more and more scenes but if I could just get one scene with the two :)

@@aniqausha. he said he's open to play kai anytime.

...I mean do Ancestors still exist !? Plus I think we now know which is the actual twin that resembles Kai the most ! Everybody assumed that Lizzie is the dark twin cause she is bipolar and has anger issues , but really we can all agree now , the dark one is Josie ! Josie is borderline psycho , cold and dangerous, a literal wolf in sheep clothes , has no real remorse when she fucks up and never owns up for her shit ! Even when she loses it in front of everybody , she doesn’t own up to it , her mind has to create an alter ego to put blame on , and she fails to realize that that alter ego is her , not some parasite for like a while ! I don’t even know if she truly understood it , the resolution of it seams more like « I am going to conquer you by pretending you don’t exist » instead of « I am going to conquer my darkness by acknowledging it , accepting it , understanding it and then let it go » ! I hope it was a learning lesson for her , that she is not perfect, or any better then anyone else , might help her actually grow and actually truly be a good , caring , honest person , not for the image or the idea of it , but for real ! Honest to herself ! Don’t get me wrong Lizzie is fucked up but at least she doesn’t hide her darkness and struggle under anything ( probably cause she can’t !) ! When she is angry, she is angry, when she is mean she is mean , when she is happy she is happy , when she is nice she is nice ...I And she is fully self aware when she fucks up , and even if she lives by the never apologized motto to , she always end up owning and growing from her shit ! Which I don’t think I saw Josie do ...yet , let’s hope she does ! Evidently neither Josie or Lizzie are actually like Kai , cause he is a clinical sociopath, and both girls even if they are indeed fucked up , they do have a capacity for empathy ! Lizzie might seam like she lacks empathy but really she actually has to much of it , while Josie might seam like the hypersensitive one , but really she lacks some , while Kai have a huge ass lack of it , so I don’t actually know what the hell could he teach any off them , especially when it comes to controlling emotions ! He doesn’t know much about emotions, even when he feels them , he seams to control them , but really even tho he did absorb Luke and he is a Vamp-witch, Kai doesn’t have much of them emotions , at least not strong ones, and whenever he does have strong ones , he loses it , he goes psycho murderer revenge on everyone, even when it doesn’t make sense from a logical point of view , it’s like his intelligence and strategy skills are mostly M.I.A ...like how he got himself killed in the most stupidest fashions just cause he could not resist the overwhelming impulsion to play games and also destroy shit cause vengeance !? Otherwise I would actually love any pretext for having Kai back for more then one episode, even if it doesn’t make sense at all , cause he is perfect, even tho he still is a total sociopath that will never get his redemption, ever !

@@SakiBlablabla actually, i'd say josie's a sociopath (which is comparable to the mentality and family structure of the mikaelsons) while kai's level of emotional deficiency comes off as psychopathic, although that could be due to further mental problems from isolation/believing that his family didn't deserve his affection.

I think hes just using her to get blood so he come back from being desiccated

@@crystallewis96 well, we all know how that goes on TV, he starts using her and ends up in love with her, but then she gets mad at him (logically) because he was using her, and there is drama for a while

Josie is a faker she gets mad at lizzie because lizzie can't read her mind to know what josie wants it so stupid

Я тоже склоняюсь к тому, что в Слиянии победит Лиззи, новый сезон только укрепляет мою теорию.

What if there’s ‘the other side’ again idk and kai ended up there and when Lizzie turns vampire she goes there for a lil bit cuz she’s a witch and would be heretic so she meets kai and they have a while stuck there and she becomes heretic she knows what to do

your actually so right

Oh, I'm sorry, but I've never been participated in collab video :( I don't even know how it happens :( Well, maybe one day ❤

Yes, but the poor treatment is mostly because of her own attitude ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ohy4HxKEdR4.html

@@TheMarkmcr she doesn't really deserve any of it tho

@@catyl0ver759 although I agree, that discussion is pretty much spoiler territory

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@@linal_vastness Thank you!

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lina l. Thanks 😊