LLF - What Are They Going To Vote For? 

What exactly is there to ‘discern’? That the Bible is suddenly wrong? This just feels like a further step in bullying the orthodox either into apostasy or to leave the CofE. What about disciplining Churches (& Cathedrals!) that are already implementing SSM Blessings before anything has formally been approved? This feels like a one way street - and it’s a dead end!

A lot of the dark one is involved with all this dreadful breaking of our lords teachings. Those who are involved, will have to face our lord at some point.

The fix is going in. Collaborate in the lie, or leave. The message is clear.

Dan - you make me glad to be Orthodox.

No one should be made to vote on anything without all documentation and details presented and reviewed ahead of the voting meeting.

I can’t help but wonder why this work has not been done first. It is unreasonable to expect people to vote without all the information available.

Great Dan, thank you. Bishops cannot vote for a change in doctrine without first breaking their oath to uphold it! We have just appointed a new vicar, or rather - she has been appointed by the bishop and no-one had any opportunity to ask her if she supported LLF. It is almost certainly the end of my lay ministry. But where to go? Graham Reardon

I left the C of E and now attend a Free Evangelical Church. ✝️

A time to stay or a time to leave? Uncertainty is rather like being neither hot nor cold.

I am not going to abandon the Church of England. Conservatives running away is exactly why the CofE has been in so much trouble, the Church needs the orthodox to stop them devolving further.

G-d the Father's Word, personified in Jesus (as described in John 1) stands as is! Even though the Old Testament is now overlaid by the New, i.e. the Law is fulfilled by Jesus dying and resurrecting, *but not abolished,* we live in Christ under Grace, but not free to sin (though we do wilfully) as Paul wrote in Romans 1. Move out from under the 'Grace Umbrella', one puts oneself under the Law and it's demands for breaking the least one (Epistle of James), even as a 'Christian' (quotation marks because many, especially those in dog collars, aren't necessarily True Christians, proven by their actions - fruits of the Spirit, or not - which we *can* judge). There is a way back, but it it includes repentance and humility (1John 1:4-8 and 2 Chronicles 7:14). These C of E bills do *not* override what G-d the Father says, which is confirmed in the Epistle of Hebrews, and should be summarily *thrown out!* Priests should not indulge in nor teach sin, nor even say that the sin is 'a blessing from G-d', when it is not! The C of E's headship is stinkingly rotten! Rev Dan, I suggest you do what Brett Murphy did, because you are going to be flogging a dead horse.

Why mix up the word of the lord with mindless adverts?

Vote reform

What a sorry state your organisation has become. Why does any God fearing person stay? Why would you put up with sin that is celebrated in your midst? Does what Jesus did for you all not count for anything, was His death in vain? I cannot call the CofE a church (the people of God) because the Holy Spirit does not reside where sin is not just acquiesced to but glorified.

It sounds to me. You are being asked to approve something and to have faith that what you are approving is what you actually believe it to be. I could be wrong. I suppose what you have to ask is have you got that much faith in your guides. Or can some be considered to be blind guides? Me I don’t know if I believe in that amount of control. I suppose if the control is bible based. But if it’s not!!!

Voting on something one has not seen demonstrates to me that there shall be things in it that people shall find offensive. Therefore they are getting things done by going through 'Back door'.

Depart from me I never knew you.

Almost sounds like a bit of self sabotaging going on

Are some Anglic

The big problem here is precisely that the CofE is the national church "by law established" - which unfortunately means that the legislators control the church more than the Christians who attend the church. And as far as I can see the majority of legislators of almost all parties want the national church to 'get with the programme' by accepting same-sex marriage, while the people who count, those who actually regularly use the CofE, are barely 2% of the population - how long do you think the legislators will allow the CofE to be so out of line with the country it's supposed to be the national church of??

Why is the Church of England going against God's and Jesus teaching. Its no wonder its in decline.

By the way, I vote *NO!*

Hallelujah!!! I’m blessed and favored with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and support the work of God and the church. For Your glory, LORD! HALLELUJAH!