LMS Black 5 - New Tooling, New Standard? 

I ordered mine in Hornby’s 15% off sale they just had, redeemed hobby points and saved the VAT living in Canada. It should be here today or tomorrow and I’m so hyped!

Awesome model. I’m waiting for the BR Late version with steam

wow, Hornby is coming to the party, finally. Superb product by what you have shown. And a nice looking locomotive too.

Cheers on the review! My friends and I just recently found this channel and i couldn’t help but binge watch every video you have up. Your content is very refreshing and I can bet on it blowing up soon, can’t wait to watch your RU-vid career excel!

Super looking locomotive. Looks like a good performer. Hornby are on form with this one. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.

Such a great little engine

I enjoy that you kept the DCC specific information at the end of the video. The layout is looking phenomenal man! Great job as usual 😎

Great review Hylt . She certainly looks good . I see a lot of progress on layout since I last checked in , will need to go back and catch up on previous episodes - but layout also looks very good . Nice one !

Nice review my friend ,😊

Nice loco and nice review. Hornby have excelled on this one.

So happy to see a new tooled B5, My favourite non-GW locomotive, maybe because she was deisgned by a Swindon trained CME ;) Great video Hylt! very happy for your on this loco! James

A beauty!

I’ve been looking forward to this.

Great review, just enough of what you need to know before you decide to buy one. I have actually pre-ordered the Caprotti version. Looked a lovely model on your layout especially with the LMS wagons too.

Thats a great review of my of my favourite steam engines Hylt. Hoping to see 2 black 5's later on today on a steam railtour as it passes though South Wales.

Nice looking loco that, the layouts starting to look real nice now mate, once I get this never ending holiday bill paid off I’ll have to get some new bits and pieces

Beautiful loco, awesome review/video hylt! I may get one at some point, but the price is quite extortionate, but the features are amazing

Have the earlier Black Five which is a superb runner. Will wait for the BR version to come out and add it to my Southern layout which is currently being rebuilt. Will order from the Cornwall shop to get it to New Zealand in quick time as usual!

Hi mate I hope you are well Yes these are great models. Lots of details and features on Your runs well. People on rmweb are right about your camera it very good. I've subscribed to the channel Thank you for sharing your models with us Keep safe ARP

First the new P2 and now the Black 5: Hornby at its best. Hornby's Black 5 has always been a top model, and this iteration is contuinig the fine tradition. It'll be interesting to see how the new, innovative drawbar mechanism stands the test of time. The LMS Black lined livery is not only iconic but gorgeous. Your review style has developed quickly, and you now have an established methodology and approach. This is excellent infortainment. Do you ever see yourself having an "mechanism investgation" segment, where you open up the model? Nice to see Hornby including crew again. Your "Hill of Dispare" is on a par with Jenny Kirk's "Torture Track"! Thanks for an excellent video.

Ho hum, sadly the sort of thing we have come to expect from Hornby. They have developed the habit of depicting anything brass as shining like 24ct gold and what's with the white axle ends - I doubt they looked anything like that when built or at least not for very long!

Wow, it looks like our great friend Sam's Trains received a dud Black 5 so I hope he gets a replacement and not settle for a full refund.

Well, it is nice to see one that runs properly. A video released Sam's Trains the same day as your video gave a scathing review of the locomotive. To be fair the one he received had a number of problems. I did notice that the train looked as though it was jerky when running, was that the video or the locomotive? At any rate great review and install. Looking forward to the next.

I haven't got a Black Five and it is a really wonderful looking loco. I will deffo be getting an early emblem BR one to weather to within an inch of its life when I finally finish my stupid electrics and track which is driving me loopy atm. The whole packaging setup seems to be a good step up for Hornby (to match Accurascale/Rapido etc I spoze). My incline is planned for 3% (I have the WWS incline set) but I'm a little dubious about some locos being able to pull stuff up it... Anyway, it looks fantastic on a long freight and doesn't seem too expensive, really... Cheers for a good video, Hylton :)

Interesting review. Thanks for this. Did notice a slight stutter at 12:29. SamsTrains had a bit of a nightmare with his. Good to see that’s not the common experience.

Nice to see a good positive review although I did notice a couple of hick-up especially on your tighter curves. I take it you haven't seen 'Sam's Trains review of the same model, both the original review, and the replacement review, it might make you do some extra checking of the mechanicals., but you do seem to have got a good one. It's good to see what Hornby can do if they try.

quite a few buyers had a lot of issues and have returned them, so usual quality problems. you seem to be one of the lucky ones, i have a steam generator black five on order so i'm hoping its going to be good otherwise its going back for refund as the prices are so high nothing but perfection is acceptable.

Hi Hylton. I do like a black 5

The two gold-painted pieces in the baggie are steam blowdown pipes for the bottom of the steam chest. Presumably, there are some pre-drilled holes on the bottom side of the cylinders to glue these in. The other bits might be replacement plugs for the forward NEM coupling if you want the plow instead; just my guess.

I really want to say these videos are helpful... but all you are doing is make me struggle to decide what loco to buy next! 🤣

After Sam’s Trains’ review of this same engine, I’d been ready to cancel my preorder. You’ve got me questioning it.

I am liking it, but will wait for the full fat steam generator version

You were real lucky, Sam's Trains got a dud and sent it back. It didn't even work and had numerous glue marks.

The 'blackened' Smoke Box is something Hornby missed out on the 9F whereas it is present on the upgraded Bachmann 9F. Just ordered my Black 5 from Rails of Sheffield.

Just out of interest, do you remember if the blanking plate was a loose fit when you removed it?

Now you have me curious, what is the usual shipping charge from the UK to South Africa? As an American I typically pay ~£15 for a single locomotive.

It's a bit bewildering to me that Hornby doesn't use the new style of packaging on all releases now, regardless of if they are new tooled or just a re-release. Any other company I can think of (at least in the US) would put it in the new packaging if it is released after the redesign. Not to mention the fact that the new packaging is better for the model than the previous style.

You may want to see 'Sam's Trains' black 5 review.

Excellent review, But far too pricey. 179 tops

Pretty good value? Really? It has no flywheel and no diecast boiler. The 2mt, which is cheaper, has both. And the 9F, which costs only a little more, also.

Anyone considering buying one of these should check out Sam’s Trains video review of the same loco. Things did NOT go well…be warned. Electrical connections from Tender to loco badly failed; glue marks on body; plastic boiler instead of die cast (really cheap approach considering the high loco price); metal running board warped; removeable lamps…didn’t see to want to be removed; loose crank on drive wheels, etc. Detail was good for sure…but given its high price, not a good value purchase, and very lightweight.

Hi on the sound is it a function to turn of the rear light and what decoder are you using thank you

Hi again. Have you seen SamTrains review yet? It would be interesting to see what you think of it.

Will this run on a standard dc layout or are hornby forgetting the dc users...

First!

0.61 would most likely be an imperial measurement.

They have missed the front steps off.

Interesting that another channel had nothing but bad things to say about this locomotive

Seems you got luckier than Sam who got a dud

Hi, Thanks for this positive review. But I have mixed feelings after viewing "Sam's Train" review of this new Black Five from Hornby. Guess you are lucky to have a perfect RTR and neat model. In the past I experienced faulty Hornby products due to the NON existence of Quality Control where these models are produced: China. Not only true with model trains ! To many times Ready to Run was "Ready to Repair". And with the new prices of over 200£ I'm not willing to repair faulty nor badly assembled products. Another observation is that the TXS decoder is not chuff to wheel rotation synchronized. A minor detail ... but still. There seems a lack of consistency with Hornby steam locomotives. Some have the die cast boilers like the new 2MT; this one is plastic. Looking at Accurascale locomotives, per example, that have all the modern quality features for a far more 'democratic price' Hornby runs behind and is way overpriced. But no wonder that companies controlled by book keepers and share holders can't stand up to smaller and thus more flexible companies. Still all in all - don't get me wrong: I love Hornby products and have a nice roster of fine Hornby steamers but I advocate they get their act together starting with efficient QC and more reasonable prices. Success and thanks for your model railroad enthousiasme !

The Gap between tender and loco is to big

Looks absolutley stupid with the silver and gold parts,I'd have to get the paints Out on this one

Don't get too excited by this Model yet. Sam's trains model was very poor.