Lockspeiser LDA-01

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Welcome to this Tales From the Hut & Hangar Aviation Rarities episode, all about the Lockspeiser LDA-01 "Boxer 500" & developments.
A very promising utility aircraft designed & built by Test Pilot David Lockspeiser. Only one was built and that was destroyed in a fire, so ended its development.
The Story of the LDA-01 by David Lockspeiser. Recorded by the Royal Aeronautical Society.
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Listen to David Lockspeiser FRAeS addressed a meeting organised by the Royal Aeronautical Society’s Historical Group on 2nd February 2008.
www.aerosociety.com/news/audi...
Correction on stats: Wingspan was 26 ft.
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Recorded @ BTRADS Weston-super-Mare

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@SamuraiSwimmer 22 дня назад

It seems suspect that 2 unique aircraft were destroyed by arson in one blow. Wonder who benefited.

@anonemoose7777 11 дней назад

Man Boeing has REALLY been busy… for longer than we knew. You think the current guy is like the son of the son of the first fellow?

@talesfromthehutandhangar 10 дней назад

Huh?

@imbok 23 дня назад

I've been an aviation enthusiast in the USA for years and I've never heard of the LDA-01 or it's designer. Thanks for sharing! This is a very interesting aircraft and shows the enormous optimism for aviation that existed at the time. For all of you RC scale model builders out there, I think this would be a great subject!

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Glad you liked it-Thanks

@joesutherland225 21 день назад

Do blueprints of this exist?

@higamerXD 14 дней назад

this seems like such a good idea that there is honnestly no way this guy wasnt sabotaged man super sad, this would have been a cool sight to see flying about

@jamesricker3997 13 дней назад

Unfortunately there was still a lot of DC3s around.

@higamerXD 13 дней назад

@jamesricker3997 to be fair he dis say his factory was burned down by arson that kinda seems to say alot

@nixxonnor 6 дней назад

It seems that a working model of this concept plane was indeed sabotaged by arson in 1987. But the purpose of the sabotage could have been the 10 "edgely opticas" that were destroyed in the fire as well. The idea of this type of plane is however free for anyone to explore. I guess there is a good reason or two for why this design was not pursued further.

@kiwisteve6598 15 дней назад

Loving the footage of the test pilot climbing in the cockpit wearing a white office shirt and tie.

@SimonAmazingClarke 23 дня назад

While not the prettiest aircraft around, it was certainly one of the most practical aircraft I've ever come across. Very well thought out.

@andrewmartin8739 22 дня назад

As usual a weird design but totally functional and should have been developed

@PhilipCockram 14 дней назад

When i started flying RC planes a few yrs ago I was mostly just interested in Warbirds , The Icons we all grew up with like the Corsair and Spitfire . But since then I've come to appreciate all aviation . This aircraft is amazing and I've never seen it before . Great job on the presentation .

@talesfromthehutandhangar 14 дней назад

Thank you 😊

@Starbelt 11 дней назад

This looks like an airplane a child would design. As for 'not airplane' shaped airplanes go, this one is really cute. Reminds me of building a space ship from Lego.

@petesheppard1709 15 дней назад

Such potential. It's really sad that simple, innovative aircraft like this can't get attention or market support.

@hoilst265 23 дня назад

I love how even in the thumbnail the pilot's looking at the camera going "Can you believe I'm flying this thing?"

@clydebennish2106 20 дней назад

I remember seeing this as a kid... i imagined going camping in it... thanks for the vid... great planes never die as long as someone is there to remember them.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 20 дней назад

Thanks 👍 Nice dream!

@musoseven8218 23 дня назад

Genius! Thanks for sharing 👍😊💜 Such a shame that GB's aviation industry has been wilfully, treasonously, systematically destroyed.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Thanks. Yes such a shame

@EricIrl 23 дня назад

Actually saw this aircraft in the flesh at the 1976 International Air Tattoo. I hadn't realised that Lockspeiser had worked with the Miles aircraft company. That would explain the configuration of the design, which has a resemblance to the World War 2 era Miles Libelula. Unfortunately, the LDA was never developed beyond this prototype.

@Peasmouldia 22 дня назад

I'm wondering if there were problems with ineffective yaw control. All the films showed the aircraft in straight and level flight apart from take off and landings. A properly coordinated turn might be an issue with all that slab side and those tiny rudders. This was clearly an issue, as attested by all the variations of yaw control in the video. Ta.

@donreed5029 24 дня назад

Way ahead of its time. Would have fun to build and fly.

@gort8203 24 дня назад

Ahead of its time? How do you know its time will ever come? It has not met any worldwide demand or we would see these things flying.

@richardvernon317 24 дня назад

Design was tested in the 1940's as the Miles M36 and M39. Didn't work that well so was dropped.

@jtjames79 23 дня назад

@@gort8203 We are talking about the design philosophy and modularity. That was the part that was ahead of its time. If they sold these as a kit, it would be at the top of my list. First thing I would do is convert it to electric. Might as well make it out of carbon fiber as well, It's just a box the layup is super easy. And the costs have come down so far carbon fiber is the new fiberglass. Have you seen that video of the robot dog taking a walk on top of a ball? I read the paper, the secret sauce is a really simple trick. And can be abstracted to just about anything. So fully autonomous autopilot would take a couple hundred bucks to train, either renting the CPUs or tasking a 3060 or better for a few weeks to generate the synthetic data. You don't even need a copy of X-Plane anymore to make your own software defined autopilot (like software defined radio, you can change the flight characteristics on the fly). Etc. Zipline's delivery drones share a very similar design and layout. So yes, ahead of its time. This was a plan for people who wanted to tinker. They should have sold it the size it was.

@gort8203 23 дня назад

@@jtjames79 Lots of words there to convince yourself of . . . something. But the design philosophy has not been put into use, which it would have if worthwhile, so it was not really ahead of its time.

@gort8203 23 дня назад

@@jtjames79 No we are not, you are talking about it, and you are just repeating yourself. Build anything you like, just don't say a "philosophy" that went nowhere is ahead of its time.

@chrissmith7669 8 дней назад

When I was young I thought this the ultimate in cool designs

@wiseoldfool 21 день назад

I'm really impressed by the thought that went into this design. Maybe someone can pick up from Mr Lockspeiser's excellent work. Definitely an airborne Land Rover.

@Robutube1 22 дня назад

This smacks of another lost opportunity and such a sad fate too. Thanks for sharing, I found this post about an aircraft previously unknown to me truly fascinating.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

Thanks.

@toddfleury7324 21 день назад

What a beautiful aeroplane!

@bubbapate5740 20 дней назад

That is what is now called a canard winged aircraft. Small wings up front, big wings in back. That type of wing configuration handles very well. They were all the rage back in the 70's and 80's. You do not see them much now days except for collectors buying them and making them air worthy again.

@_autoverse 22 дня назад

There’s something endearing about vehicles designed with utility and ease of use in mind. This aircraft certainly had potential, it’s a shame it never progressed past the prototype stage.

@gort8203 24 дня назад

The music sounds like what they played during intermission at drive-in move theatres in the 60s. And this thing could have been in one of the pre-show cartoons for the kids.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

It was music of its time. I nearly wiped the sound and l was going to narrate over it.

@gort8203 23 дня назад

@@talesfromthehutandhangar Yeah, I didn't think you chose that music. But it is an indication of how dated this aircraft concept is now.

@jonassundell9366 15 дней назад

Amazing❤! Greatings from Jonas Gothenburg Sweden. 😊

@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 23 дня назад

Have to wonder about the lack of uptake with this plane? It looks like a very practical bush plane and could almost be a home builder’s dream. Maybe the radical looks were a bit off putting? Very clever stuff! 👍🏻

@brushfuse 21 день назад

Very modular. I love the development ethos and design philosophy. Even much larger aircraft would benefit from this simple commonality.

@davidbrown8365 10 дней назад

Absolutely fascinating! Thanks for posting. I'll check out your other videos!

@talesfromthehutandhangar 10 дней назад

Thanks. Please do, l hope you enjoy them.

@_Ben4810 22 дня назад

There seems to be a story there of it's own that needs uncovering & retelling about the arson fire in 1987.....🤔

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

Some else can do that!

@CrusaderSports250 21 день назад

@@talesfromthehutandhangarcan of worms!!.

@b.griffin317 8 дней назад

Very clever. I'd buy one if I had the money.

@randlerobbertson8792 18 дней назад

Very interesting indeed. Like others my first thought is. Tailstrike..apart from that, very novel.

@nickthompson9697 23 дня назад

Decades later, I found a similar configuration allowed for minimal component stress and trim difficulties on heavy lift spaceplanes in Kerbal.

@christopherneufelt8971 21 день назад

It contains a comfortable cockpit together with microwave oven, bathroom, garderobe, swimming pool, gardener, cook, dog, medical personel, toothbrush and even under popular demand two sparrow missiles, just in case.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 21 день назад

🤣

@b.griffin317 8 дней назад

Sparrow missiles: don't leave home without them.

@christopherneufelt8971 7 дней назад

@@b.griffin317 Yep. 2 Sparrows a day, make the enemy to fly away.😁

@mikepowell2776 24 дня назад

I remember seeing an Optica at Sarum and recall reading about the fire which destroyed not only two exceptional aircraft but, effectively, their manufacturers as well. I can’t recall if anyone was convicted for it. Anyone know?

@lawrencesciortino9721 9 дней назад

A very interesting design, thank you for a great "show and tell". I have subscribed hoping to see more of this caliber.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 8 дней назад

Thanks! Appreciated. Please do check out the oĺder stuff as well.

@AnMuiren 14 дней назад

Thanks. I always wondered what happened to that plane. Remember reading about it, saw it once as at a show, thought it brilliant, and would soon be seen in production, then nothing.

@garybrindle6715 22 дня назад

I recall this from my regular magazine coverage but had missed the awful loss in the Old Sarum fire which also highlighted why the optica prospect were spoiled as well. Thanks for the video.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@flywiseman 23 дня назад

Cool looking plane, Seems like someone might take up the task of improving and producing it

@mikearmstrong8483 23 дня назад

I was aware of this obscure plane, but never thought I would see a video about it. Thanks Rex.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

You are welcome

@robinhilliard 22 дня назад

Thanks for finding this, I’ve always been fascinated by a picture of this aircraft in Stinton’s Design of the Aeroplane.

@NOSHER 15 дней назад

Very interesting idea

@Acmecycle 23 дня назад

It was great to hear the inventor explain his aircraft. Thank you for making the video.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

David speaking here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-12WV5FhkXN0.htmlsi=Fn7vkbuJTLx5DCdN

@greggwilliamson 11 дней назад

This is a fantastic aircraft!! Hell, I wish it were sold as a kit. The "Optica" is another one that I cannot understand why it's not everywhere. Helicopter view with light airplane economy. Seems a "shoe-in" for border security & environmental monitoring.

@Flies2FLL 13 дней назад

That looks like a winner. Imagine that about 50 percent larger with a 650 hp PT-6 engine....

@Joewho99 24 дня назад

Excellent video thanks for uploading

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Thanks!

@babboon5764 23 дня назад

Never heard of it before, although I have a sneaking suspicion others came up with an essentially similar layout later. Brilliant concept this LDA - 01 Setting the cannard wing with a more acute angle of attack is a crafty safe stall feature which traces back to the Bristol Boxkite of 1910 onward fame.

@goatflieg 23 дня назад

This is a great compilation of information on a fascinating aircraft that I was unfamiliar with until today. I agree with your assessment completely. This design had, and has, tremendous potential. Thanks for sharing!

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.

@monostripezebras 23 дня назад

very cool episode again! thanks!

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Thanks 👍 Appreciated!

@bartlevenson7851 12 дней назад

this could be scaled up to any size for cargo planes, and probably passenger planes as well! The Canard design has both wings as lifting surfaces, increasing payload.

@PRH123 23 дня назад

Very well thought out as far as (light) cargo operations loading a pre-loaded "pannier" as he called it and a container above could reduce ground time up to maybe 30 minutes as opposed to bulk loading

@adr1uno638 23 дня назад

Rule N°1 : Don't tailstrike

@user-jc9eo3vg1y 21 день назад

Wow, how innovative! Truly sad of the destruction of prototypes. Thanks for sharing!

@talesfromthehutandhangar 21 день назад

Thanks glad you liked it

@behrouzmovahed7525 23 дня назад

My favorite plane. Great design on great time👌👌👌

@leebooth9797 12 дней назад

awesome

@krissfemmpaws1029 23 дня назад

I first saw photos of the LDA-01 in the 1970s and it has intrigued me all these years. I think it would be interested to design a homebuilt airplane based on it.

@peterhille5221 9 дней назад

I remember seeing it on Tomorrows World

@ngauruhoezodiac3143 22 дня назад

Amazing that it can even fly. It looks as aerodynamic as a brick.

@damonmeyer1219 22 дня назад

92 Kt cruise, ouch.

@tomthompson7400 20 дней назад

some really well thought out ideas .

@RXTRUX1 11 дней назад

Looks like something Rutan might have built. Surprising no one picked it up.

@pctrashtalk2069 13 дней назад

You could take the wings off and have a real flying car with the 4 wheel landing gear. Drive you cargo to it's destination. I like it.

@yakacm 23 дня назад

1927 + 35 means you were born in 1962 and also your age is also 62? From your voice I would have thought you were much younger. Oh great video as well.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Now, that is a different type of comment. Yep with the knees of a 80 year old! Glad you enjoyed it!

@rickybo6862 19 дней назад

Great video, ty for uploading it

@talesfromthehutandhangar 19 дней назад

Thank you! Appreciated.

@tedsmith6137 23 дня назад

Wingspan was 26 ft plus the fuselage width. Yes, I recognise that each panel (foreplane and mainplane) was 13 ft span, but that is not how wingspan is calculated. Do we assume that the change of name from Boxer 1000 to Boxer 500 reflects a reevaluation of its load carrying capacity? The initial description said the belly pannier had a load capacity of 1000kg, but it seems to have been discarded for the production proposal and the doors were the full height of the fuselage. Load seems to have dropped from 1000kg to a quoted figure of 272kg. That is a LONG way from the initial expectation.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Yes, the span was an error on my part. The specs changed a lot during development. It looked different in almost every photo. I guess, just trying things out and showing options. l did wonder how they lifted the cargo pod up into the aircraft. Dropping cargo as he proposed would have been dodgy with the prop.

@CrusaderSports250 21 день назад

@@talesfromthehutandhangarwhen trying to sell a design you attempt to cover as many bases as possible, and a few that are not!, then reality whittles down the options, hopefully before things have gone too far, and you arrive at something that is close to practical, it's how the process works, best not shout too loudly at the start and get hopes up, just loud enough to get started😊.

@vqey2 23 дня назад

A new one to me , sounds practical shame it never sold

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 23 дня назад

Great video. Unique airplane.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Thanks! Appreciated.

@ottonormalverbrauch3794 20 дней назад

Burt Rutan seems to have noted this 'canard' setup.

@joesutherland225 21 день назад

Very cool .bert rutan owes him a bow id say

@michaelogden5958 24 дня назад

Well. THAT'S a little different!

@TheodoreScopeline 8 дней назад

Yeah, great aircraft👍🏻 Totally identifiable British style windscreen 😂 Would've worked great in Rhodesia and South Africa back then👍🏻. That design was used by an American ultralight builder in the 70's and 80's. Very safe. It's the design I would like to fly!

@garyhooper1820 24 дня назад

The modular concept makes it multi purpose at lower expense .

@neiloflongbeck5705 23 дня назад

But needing at least one support aircraft to bring in the spare pods to remote locations.

@zoltankaparthy9095 21 день назад

Homlier than homemade soap, but this thing was brilliant.

@MrRossi1805 21 день назад

Great concept! I’m wondering why no one stepped in or restarted this 😮

@ammerudgrenda 21 день назад

Looks like there is lots opportunities for reducing both induced drag and interference drag. Would have been a cool project to work on.

@wiseoldfool 21 день назад

There it was, hanging in the air in exactly the way a brick doesn't. Love the "pod". Was this the inspiration for Thunderbird 2?

@talesfromthehutandhangar 21 день назад

F.A.B!

@CrusaderSports250 21 день назад

Thunderbird Two came first, was an avid watcher of the Saturday documentary series 😊.

@wiseoldfool 21 день назад

@@CrusaderSports250 Thunderbird 2 was the GOAT for me! Secretly I liked Gordon as much as Virgil, although I think I'm more like John. Anywho, I am a volunteer firefighter, so I participate in the International Rescue mission.

@ptonpc 23 дня назад

That looks ingenious. Pity it was never brought into production.

@randyjennings3075 15 дней назад

Oh my god, a plane only it's mother could love. Reminds me of the saying, if a plane looks right. Well?????

@willcall9431 18 дней назад

Canard aircraft have been around for a long time. 😁

@repeatdefender6032 15 дней назад

What an interesting little guy that plane is. I'm curious, if the wing design was so efficient and safe, why aren't more planes designed that way? It's so odd to see it appear to fly backwards.

@peglegjim57 15 дней назад

Grandfather of the Long Easy?!?

@Bruvva_Wu 10 дней назад

Wonder how good it's landing skills at STOL. Gravel runways would be a concern with that rearward prop spinning in the rocks chucked up by the nose wheel(s)

@talesfromthehutandhangar 10 дней назад

Prop spin no difference just the other way. Maybe a gravel type kit. Spats on the wheels etc.

@myperspective5091 22 дня назад

Its not the worst aircraft. It seems like it flies a little nose up. The nose didn’t seem to bob up and down like a lot of other canard aircraft do. It definitely has some aviator Burt Rutan vibes to it.

@Magnum.318 14 дней назад

This scheme was used not only by the Wright brothers))) The Soviet MiG-8 "Duck" began to be developed in February 1945, on August 13, 1945, it made its first flight.

@aktab9 22 дня назад

It a bloody minivan of the skys 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

@talesfromthehutandhangar 22 дня назад

or Robin Reliant?

@wojectwenty 22 дня назад

Looks like a rutan canard design , but years ahead of rutan . It would have been a great aircraft

@moaslimes3674 9 дней назад

I wonder if plans can be found? Would Make an interesting rc plane to build

@skylarking12 14 дней назад

Would make an interesting RC model in foam.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 14 дней назад

Have a look on RU-vid. Somebody made one.

@jamesmorton7881 21 день назад

The same as the Rutan Very EZ that was big news in the experimental aircraft movement.❤❤ Which one came first ?

@talesfromthehutandhangar 21 день назад

This design was started about 1967

@olkarls5494 23 дня назад

A fantastic design! It could have been developed into a 10-20 seater aircraft - with ONE 1000 hp gas turbine engine - taking a similar role to the Cessna Caravan and de Havilland Twin Otter. Also as a version that could take euro pallets (or small containers with a similar "footprint"). With even more practical solutions, and with even safer flight characteristics than the Caravan and Twin Otter (which are themselves quite practical and safe). I have long been a fan of aircraft with canard design, and for tens of years thought that they would be the design of the future. But it looks like the future is coming very slowly… Is it just old traditions - within the big aircraft manufacturers - that lead to most newly developed aircraft still having "classic" (non-canard) designs?

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Yes it could possibly but defeats the object. lt was not the same the rest & simple to operated low cost & repairable in the field.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Now uploaded... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-12WV5FhkXN0.htmlsi=1851ZEogxHYzBlDc David taking about the LDA-01.

@rossnolan7283 23 дня назад

Clearly "inspired" by the Miles libellula (also his training with them as mentioned in the video) seemed to be underpoweted but worthy of more development . Was he related to Ben lockspeiser ( involved in the Whittle jet devt.? )

@andrewtolley3706 24 дня назад

Lockspeiser was indeed way ahead of his time. A brilliant design born of a lot of experience. Tragic that the prototype was destroyed in such a way. Imagine what he could achieve given present-day design processes.

@richardvernon317 24 дня назад

Poppycock. plenty of aircraft built to this design before Lockspeiser built this thing. Miles M39 for example. All of them failed to enter service because they had no major advantage over conventional designs.

@neiloflongbeck5705 23 дня назад

He'd burn through his money even faster.

@CrusaderSports250 21 день назад

@@richardvernon317the ability to load unload direct from a truck with a level platform is just one of the features that has yet to be delivered in light aviation as was the ease of the float conversion. Miles M39 fell foul of a procurement process structured for wartime production and a very conservative selection thinking. Had the LDA been made in the eastern bloc then we may have seen production due to its simple utility nature, similar to the Antonov Colt biplane, another big problem is the utility market is dominated by a small number of companies making sales penetration very difficult, a common problem for all small manufacturers, regardless of what they make, let alone someone right at the start of the process. The great shame is with the destruction of the prototype the aircrafts potential was never allowed to be reached, whatever that may have been.

@robertkirby3158 20 дней назад

It should be remembered that the eventual limited number of Concordes meant that they could not be economically sold to the two airlines with an expectation of flying at a profit. A project that big gets tax payer attention. This is much smaller and so is the economic scale which makes it just as vulnerable to money however good it may or may not have turned out as a useful aircraft. It is a pity commercial experience did not get to decide its fate.

@cliveshakespeare9184 23 дня назад

What an amazing aircraft! Great video also. My problem is that I don't understand all the funny imperial units, would suggest more modern metrics for today's viewers. Thanks for the video.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

I'm glad you liked it. Thanks. Aircraft was made in imperial, so read as that. I simply can't be arsed reading both out as errors crop up in conversion. But in future l will just put on the screen. 😅

@jasonz7788 23 дня назад

Cool bird

@bsimpson6204 23 дня назад

What a brilliant aircraft, I wonder who burnt the factory down

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

As for the fire, umm. Rumours are about!

@ebikecnx7239 21 день назад

Worzel Gummidge

@strayling1 23 дня назад

Love that '60s bingo hall music. Edit: I remember that fire being in the news - did they ever get to the bottom of it?

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Better than a porno ?

@strayling1 23 дня назад

@@talesfromthehutandhangar "Confessions of a Plane Spotter"

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

🤣

@SM-wt8gd 11 дней назад

Thanks for the video! Just a small note: sometimes the sound of the aircraft was too loud, making it difficult to hear you

@talesfromthehutandhangar 10 дней назад

That was not me but the designer from an original film. Nothing l could do about that.

@JFrazer4303 9 дней назад

It's funny how often arson is responsible for ending so many promising unusual aircraft projects.

@flybobbie1449 23 дня назад

Could easily be a crop sprayer.

@danpayne1010 23 дня назад

Take off scape the prop, land scape the prop

@clive373 23 дня назад

I wonder who did the arson.

@KB10GL 23 дня назад

As ugly as a hat full of As*holes but incredibly practical in almost every respect. The canard wing design gives the pilot a view enjoyed mainly by helicopter pilots, & the basic box fuselage looks like it could be made or repaired by a country blacksmith. A very handy asset in far flung third world countries. I like the very basic, almost rudimentary design & construction a great deal. Its true beauty is not in its form, but its function, so in that regard it is truly beautiful indeed. Too bad that it never went into production.

@talesfromthehutandhangar 23 дня назад

Agreed & shame it never went on.