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Logic Pro: Tighten Guitar & Bass Performances Without Flex Audio 

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Table Of Contents For Video:
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0min0sec: Video Intro
0min50sec: For self-produced musicians new to editing and mix prep.
6min7sec: Guitar tightening segment.
23min57sec: Bass guitar segment.
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When it comes to tracking, editing and mixing audio, I spend most of my time in Pro Tools, but I made this tutorial as a resource for those artists who are producing their own music using Logic Pro and would like to learn more about editing audio in Logic without having to rely on flex audio, which, for a number of reasons, is not ideal for use on live instruments.
In the above video I aim to provide a painless and relatively quick workflow for pocketing/tightening instruments like guitar and bass in Logic Pro without using the flex audio feature set. This tutorial might also be of use to anyone use to using Pro Tools who find themselves needing to quickly do some corrective rhythmic audio editing in Logic.
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Why it matters:
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Proper, clean (free of artifacts) editing and mix prep will generally help you get the most bang for buck when hiring a mix engineer, because it allows said mix engineer to jump right in and do what you hired them to do with fresh ears, as opposed to having to first go through the session and clean up poor edits and tighten up performances that might need it. This saves your mix engineer time and keeps his or her efforts focused on the task at hand: making your music sound terrific. While flex audio can be very helpful and convenient during the creative process, it is too prone to audible artifacts (in both it's stretching in slicing forms) to be usable on recordings of live instruments used in the final mix. This is not a knock on Logic in particular, as this is the case with most stretching algorithms.
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A Couple Notes
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Here are a couple things that I note later in the video that might be better said up front:
- You do not need to edit performances into perfection. In fact, it may benefit a song to leave some variance, timing wise, in various performances. That having been said, it is generally a good idea to always make sure that the bass guitar is either right on with the attack of the drums or just a hair late. A bass note being struck prior to the corresponding drum hit never really sounds right and a great many mix engineers will ask that clients "pocket" the bass part to insure this will not be the case. Guitarists tend to float a bit more timing-wise and you might want to retain some of that, but when there is a particularly rhythmic staccato part, be it a Chic like funk rhythm, or a driving Metallica-esqe driving, unified rhythm, it's generally a good idea to make sure those areas are particularly tight.
- You do not need to have played to a click to use this technique. If your band prefers to follow the ebb and flow of a drummer who is not tied to a click/metronome, you can simply create a tempo map from your drummers performance using the beat mapping features of Logic Pro. This will create a "grid" that follows the drummer and will allow you to use the technique demonstrated to tighten the performances of other instruments in relation to the drummer's performance, but without having to alter the drummer's performance to adhere to a strict grid. The same approach is, of course, possible in Pro Tools, but this tutorial is specifically for Logic users.
Anyhow, I hope you enjoy my first tutorial and find it useful! Hit subscribe and like the tutorial on youtube if you'd like to see more!
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Комментарии : 29   
@samuelellringmann3424
@samuelellringmann3424 9 лет назад
Great tutorial Phil, thanks! Couldn´t tell it was your first at all =)
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 9 лет назад
+Samuel Ellringmann Glad you like it! Here's a new one on addressing live, multi mic'd drums: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-esIrPmWKgd0.html
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+Samuel Ellringmann In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@robertakerlund2374
@robertakerlund2374 9 лет назад
Great lesson, thanks for showing this! :)
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+Robert åkerlund In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial package available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@justinfowler1878
@justinfowler1878 9 лет назад
Very Freakin Helpful!!! Any suggestions for quantizing where there is some fast 16th notes between 8th notes?
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 9 лет назад
+Justin Fowler I would set the subdivision to the smallest present in the section, so in a mix of 8ths and 16ths, I'd set it for 16ths. If there is an area of the song where results are not as you want, you might want to break it down into smaller subsections to work on. BTW, there is a new video posted on editing live multi-mic'd drums here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-esIrPmWKgd0.html
@justinfowler1878
@justinfowler1878 9 лет назад
dubnickmusic Awesome for the advice. I'll be sure to look into it.
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+Justin Fowler In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial package available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@justinfowler1878
@justinfowler1878 8 лет назад
Oh badass. Thanks!
@robertocarlosbautista4730
@robertocarlosbautista4730 9 лет назад
Great Video!!!
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 9 лет назад
+Roberto Carlos Bautista Thanks! Just uploaded a new on quantizing live multimic'd drums in a way that more closely resembles Pro Tool's Beat Detective: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-esIrPmWKgd0.html
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+Roberto Carlos Bautista In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial package available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@EstudioDrago
@EstudioDrago 9 лет назад
great!
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 9 лет назад
+André Drago Glad you like it! Here's a new one on addressing live, multi mic'd drums: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-esIrPmWKgd0.html
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+Estudio Drago In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@robertakerlund2374
@robertakerlund2374 9 лет назад
Would love to see one on drums to.
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 9 лет назад
+Robert åkerlund And your wish is granted - enjoy!: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-esIrPmWKgd0.html
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+dubnickmusic In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial package available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@nocturnalmedia
@nocturnalmedia 9 лет назад
Trim region start to previous region - where is this function located? I know you said you have to assign it yourself, but how?
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 9 лет назад
+moosetips You will want to open the key commands list by hitting alt/option + k, then search "trim region start to previous region". If you don't find it, try searching "region start". From there it's pretty easy assign a key command for it. Sorry for the delayed response. If you are interested, here's a new one on quantizing live multi mic'd drums in Logic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-esIrPmWKgd0.html
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+moosetips In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@noisyneil
@noisyneil 9 лет назад
for some reason i can only reduce transient sensitivity. the + button is greyed out...
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 9 лет назад
+noisyneil You have likely reached the end of where Logic itself thinks there are detectable transients in the file, but you can manually add more transient markers wherever you feel it is appropriate with the pencil tool and fine tune their placement till they are where you want. Hope that helps! Here's a new video on editing live, multi mic'd drums in Logic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-esIrPmWKgd0.html
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+noisyneil In case you missed my latest video, I have an new comprehensive mix tutorial available for less than the cost of a single half hour guitar lesson: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi and enter the coupon code "youtubechannel" at check out for 20% off. That's just $28 for over two and a half hours of tutorial content spread across sixteen videos, plus you'll even get the Pro Tools sessions and all files (just in case you want to follow along in Logic!). Hope all is well and thanks for checking out the channel!
@jaredholton3145
@jaredholton3145 9 лет назад
The Trim region start to previous region does not appear to be in Logic Pro 9... Does anyone else have this issue on LP 9?? Really like his method much more than flextime but the task of having to drag a left corner back manually sucks!
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+Jared Holton Haven't bothered to check Logic 9, but you should be able to search for the shortcut in key commands to see if it's there.
@jaredholton3145
@jaredholton3145 8 лет назад
Unfortunately it looks like it's actually an upgrade in Logic X. I've been experimenting with Groove Templates but don't feel like they are actually quantizing the audio to the Groove Template. Anyone savvy with using the Groove Templates and can offer some advice?
@dubnickmusic
@dubnickmusic 8 лет назад
+Jared Holton Yeah, I've never really messed with the Groove Templates, so I should leave that to someone who has. However, I did want to let you know that I have a new mix tutorial package available (over 2.5 hours of video, full Pro Tools session, final mastered mix all included). Here's a quick overview of what you get in the package, along with a comparison of the final mix and the raw tracks: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oWlHZvBnGAo.html If it looks like something you'd be interested in, just go to goo.gl/OYO4zi enter "youtubechannel" at check out and you'll get it for 20% off - around 28 bucks. Even if you're primarily in Logic, you can always import the audio files from the Pro Tools session in Logic and follow along. Anyhow, thanks again for watching the channel and thanks for your feedback!