Logic Pro X 10.4 Studio Horns Lesson 

Yeah, they sound great and logic have done a Stella job packing so much goodness into one DAW!!

This is my favourite comment EVER!! Thanks peekpen! Really appreciate you coming by the channel you're welcome here anytime!!

@@bemusi I'm just a New York-born American in San Francisco but you have to appreciate good English when in a video tutorial. I feel like I can come back to a spot and hear it differently...with benefit!

@@peekpen Hello from a very chilly UK! Thanks I try to always put my best English foot forward when creating a video. Lovely to have a New Yorker stop by the channel! I'm sure living in the Golden City is a very lovely place to be! :)

Hi John Jeansonne, thanks for watching :) Great Cajun accordion video too!

Hey SG, hope you're well :) Agree 100% of the two instruments this one wins out and is closer to sounding more natural than the strings. I think you could easily use more on it's own and it would still sound relatively authentic! Nice to have a brass ensemble as part of LPX. For me the new key switching and articulations is the best part. Just need to sort all my libraries now! :)

Hi Gilad, thanks for joining miL it's great to have you as a member and really pleased you're having a blast with the course! As a member feel free to email me through the site anytime if you have any mastering or Logic questions! Happy mixing and mastering!

You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by the channel!

Hey Jesse, thanks for the comment, Apple really thought about how the plugin's articulations can be edited in different ways. It's a great addition to all the other super Logic plugs! :)

Hope you've been enjoying Studio Horns!

@@bemusi So far, I'm using them to make a big band ballad cover. Hopefully one day I'll write a swinging big band shout chorus!

Hi AppleArcadeGaming, couldn't agree more! Studio Horns are great for jazz ensembles! :)

Hey dog, if you have the articulation set to any of the "expressive" settings, it has that velocity swell. Annoying, I know. Sustain should be the default

Hi Varun, thanks for the great comment and glad you found the video helpful! :)

Are you referring to Native Instruments SH? If so I have it might be good for me to do a shoot out video! So you can hear the difference.

@@bemusi Hey, thanks for this video! Did you ever do this shoot out video? I'm debating whether I should invest in another VST or use Session horns. What would be your initial thoughts?

wondering the exact same thing... lol

Hi Tim Stevens and Dan, you choose the articulations within the piano roll. Once you have selected the articulation set you can then click on a note in the piano roll and choose the articulation you require.

Hey Mike, Thanks for the comment glad you liked the video!

Hey Afif Yoga Pradana, yes at 9m44s into the video you can see the plugin setting for Chromoverb. I used this so you can hear how it sounds not just with reverb but with a Logic reverb too. For this example the reverb is on a bus send not the instrument track. There's actually two reverbs a very short one to give a subtle room sound and a slightly longer one to give more reflection and depth. Thanks for watching the video and hope that helps!

stoneymusicman thanks for answering but what i meant is before the 9:44 mark, all the instrument sounds like they’re not completely dry imo

Hi John Argosino, yes you are correct if you want to create your own mix balance the best way to go is create multiple instances, pop them in a track stack and then play the entire section from the track stack channel. That way you can add your own verbs/fx/pans and levels to each individual instrument from your created section. Hope that clarifies for you.

@@bemusi thanks man! Rock on!

John Argosino if you choose a specific from the library it will automatically set up separate tracks for you in a stack, and you will be able to open it and mix the tracks seperatly

@@matteusjording Awesome! Glad you found a way to get multi tracks for the Horns Matteus!

Hey Tyler J, value for money with LPX is huge but more importantly the suite of plugins, instruments and functionality gets better and better all the time. You're right Alchemy is a huge plus for LPX and is an amazing instrument, I'd say easily up there with the big expensive synth plugs. You'll love horns and strings, not perfect but used correctly is a great addition to any Logic session! Thanks for contributing to my channel :)

You are most welcome and thanks John Fernandes!

Hi Mark, thanks for commenting on this video too. I'd agree it seems a little strange. I wonder if they have done that so Logic users on 13" screens can always see the key switches easily? Perhaps when two octaves are displayed it all gets too small? That's the only reason I can think of because you're right it does'n't make sense. I've not found away of displaying both octaves yet. Having said that for me I think I'd more likely use the midi controller and piano roll to change the articulations.

stoneymusicman I'm using my midi controller but it would be great to see all the switches at once until I've learned where they are. I'd been playing with these for a whole day before I realized there were some switches in the second octave. Oh well, not the end of the world! Thanks for all your work in the videos. Keep them coming.

The joys of technology ... You unearth something new all the time! Thanks and yes I'll do my best to keep the content useful and regular!

I guess you will have to bounce that note to audio and stretch it using flextime

Hi Liammurphyvideo, thelateraledge makes a good suggestion bouncing out the note and stretching. That's probably the way I'd do it; you could also import that one note into the Quicksampler and create a loop with fades. Wouldn't be perfect but could work too. It's a little frustrating as horn players can hold for a lot longer than the sample length is.

Hi Jonah Babei, because of work I've not upgraded yet but my initial thoughts are that it seems like a bug? I know Apple is now calling it Studio Brass so double check that name is in the menu (I might be wrong though)? I'd also check the path to the samples is correct. When I've download new versions in the past it's always messed up the location folders of my samples, including the Logic samples, I get new download messages, Logic thinks the folders are empty. Once I set the paths again it's fine. I'm not saying that's your issue but do wonder if it's something similar. Especially as you're seeing the instrument as Sampler? I've just check on the website and the Studio Brass/Strings GUI is still there. Have you tried looking in the Legacy folder? Worth a shot? It does sound like a bug to me. Hope you get it sorted and sorry not to be more helpful.

@@bemusi Just sorted out. Perfect, thanks for the tips! 👍

@@jonahbabei6883 Great news! Nothing worse than not having all your instruments running sweetly. Glad you got it sorted :)

No problem! You are more than welcome, saving money is always good!

Hey Steven Mejia Music, unfortunately, as far as I'm aware Studio Horns doesn't have a mute option. Trying to create the effect of the mute might not work 100% either so best use a library that has a sampled mute. Hope that helps?

@@bemusi thanks for the reply! They should add that.

Hi Gabriel, thanks for the question I guess the best way to do it would be to load multiple instances and select solo instruments to create a horn section of your size and choosing. Once you've done that you could set them all up in a Track Stack and play all of them at the same time from the Track Stack or programme them individually on their own track. Hope that helps? :)

Hi Hugelongjohns! Thanks for the comment and you're welcome :)

Hi Matt in the UK, thanks for the great comment! I have more coming soon so feel free to sub :)

Thanks Joe, very cool to have someone from Staten Island comment on my channel!! :)

Hi Joey, thanks for the comment and glad you liked the video!

Which version of LPX are you on? From what I can remember SH and SS came with 10.4 (I think). If you’re on a later version and can’t see it you may need to download additional content.

@@bemusi found it, thx anyway

@@OlleAnderssonn Glad you found it, enjoy!

If you have EW loaded and installed you should be able to load the EW player as you would any third party plugin. If you can’t see it it might be it hasn’t been installed. Hope that helps.

Yep muted Trumpet would be very welcome and would be a great addition to Studio Horns!

@@bemusi Great video by the way. Okay, I was wondering whether that was a feature, but it seems not. But the ‘Dym something CC’ switch seems to muffle it somehow...

Do you know the ‘Dym something CC’ switch? :)

@@edwardmirza Hi Ed Mirza, thanks for the great comment! Yes, mutes aren't in there yet but hopefully soon! When you say 'Dyn something CC' Do you mean the Dynamics via CC button? If so when switched on it routes the dynamic layers to the modulation wheel (Midi CC1) on a midi device. This allows you to perfom with more dynamic expression using a modulation wheel or you can simply draw in the CC data in the piano roll. Hope that helps!

@@bemusi Okay, thanks very much. When turned off it seems I’m my case the trumpets become more muffled, so I suppose this is because the mid wheel is desengaged.

Hi Miles Spearman, if you've got a version later than Logic 10.4 you should find both Studio Horns and Studio Strings under the instrument menu. Hope that helps? Let me know if not.

You're so welcome!

You are so welcome!

Hi Sarah Thordsen Music, thanks for your question. I think you're referring to the library I mention at around 4m50s? If so there should be a button in the top left of the arrange page that you click on and you should be able to see a menu appear that contains all the downloaded content with presets of different instruments. If you can't see the library button you can simply right click on any light grey space in the top menu area and you should see an option menu appear that says 'Customise Control Bar and Display' (you can also get to this menu via View found at the very top of the window. Once you select Customise.... you'll see a new window pop up where you can check Library from the Views list. If Library is un-checked it won't appear in the Main Arrange Window. Let me know if that helped or you need anything further! :)

Hi Sami Days, which screen do you mean? Hitting the B key brings up smart controls. V will load a plugin. Let me know if you need and further help.

Hi Ziqi Zhu, unfortunately that's one thing that's missing from SH. Hopefully in the future it will be added? There isn't even one in Sampler! :(

Hello beebee smith, to access Studio Horns you simply go to the Instrument box and select Studio Horns, I would recommend selecting Stereo. Once the instrument window opens click on the the letter box in the upper middle of the window that says Trumpet 1, a drop down window will appear with all the instrument options and sections. Hope that helps?? :)

Hi, thank you for taking the time to reply. Sorry I’m very old and so I know where the sound library is and that it has studio horns listed, it then has a sub menu of 4 different brass sections. Doesn’t match what you described is in the instrument box. Is the instrument box a different area, if so I can’t find it, I look hard at your video to see where you are clicking but I can’t grasp it. Any other pointers please, I realise you are not a personal tutor. I only have an 8 bar section for brass, bit like the Paul Simon song but it doesn’t sound very good right now.

Thanks Theo, appreciate the comment!

This is what I wonder as well.. have you figured out the answer?

Love it :) cheers DillonKruppaMusic!

You are welcome

Hi Stephen, I'm really sorry I don't use MainStage, does it not show up in the software like normal LPX?

thanks ,iv got then in logic ,think the next time MainStage upgrades it should get them then ,I hope ,thanks

Yes hopefully just a matter of time, would make sense that it's included in the next update! Thanks for stoping by my page and checking out the video!

DAW wars! :)

aaah cubase, disgusting interface, great recording capabilities

Thanks BobSchusterMusic. Thanks for coming but he channel!

stoneymusicman Can you change an articulation after you have entered the note? I tried clicking on a note to change the articulation from the pull down menu but nothing seems to change. Thanks.

You're welcome Ernesto!

Do you have Logic Pro X 10.4 or later? If so you'll find it in the instrument plugin section found on the channel strip.

Hi Lancaster Siregar, what is it on the bass you'd like focussed on? If have time happy to do something.

@@bemusi id like to learn logic native bass, pick strumming and push and pull, slap etc.. thank you for responding me

Not being able to see it it's hard to say, but have you tried it on the sustain articulation with Auto Vib set to around 50% or whatever seems the best setting? I find the vibrato expression works best when Auto is dialled in. Also Sustain and Staccato offer mod response whereas some of the other articulations such as expressive medium don't respond in the same way. Hope that helps!

Hi alphabeets, yes absolutely if you are writing for absolute realism ornaments should be used sparingly and also of course is style dependant. If you're writing a club floor filler and not aiming for the perfect copy of a 'real musician' the world's your oyster! :) Thanks for adding to this conversation with your invaluable advice!

Well once you've purchased LPX ;)

Hey Glenn Roberts, you are absolutely right from your profile pic I can see a trumpet so for you it would be a no brainer to go live, that's an unbeatable sound but for anyone that isn't a player or can't afford the fees of a session Studio Horns can be a cost effective way of achieving a decent mock up. Nothing beats the real thing though!

Hi ameerkat, the only thing I can think is that the notes might be catching each other? Check the note lengths don't over lap or are overlapping? It shouldn't make any difference to be honest but worth a look. Also the velocity of the note might be very low? The only other thing I can think of is if two midi notes are catching together at the same time if the part is written with more than one voice together at the same time on the grid and the instrument is in monophonic? I've not experienced it dropping out so fear it might be a bug? Hope you get it sorted though and thanks for watching the video.