Lol I’ve been banging my face on the keyboard all day trying to figure out how to correctly route the I/O for my 500 series rack and set up the hardware inserts in Logic. I was beginning to accept that maybe I am simply too stupid to understand how this $3000 thing works and I might as well have set my money on fire instead. The way you explained this couldn’t possibly have been better. You saved my life!
If you set the main track's output to say bus 1, then create a new track with output set the no output (only when recording to prevent double playback) and set the new track's input to bus 1 you can achieve this same result, recording anything going through bus 1 analog with I/O plugin or any other plugin then on playback mute main track and set output desired on the new recorded track, great video thanks for the knowledge on I/O
Thanks for the video! Only I would want to listen to the actual print, as that's the final result, you can do that by either solo it, or by removing the output in the others
Fantastic insight. I wasn't even aware of the I/O plugin, and have been using a convoluted way to work in a hybrid fashion. This is going to deeply impact my workflow for the positive. Thanks.
This is great! Definitely going to use my Kemper like this in the future to re-amp and preserve dry tracks. I'm learning so much about Logic and all the features I thought I'd never use from your channel, thanks!
Really appreciate the effort you put into your videos! I was wondering how you record the audio from Logic into the screen recording? When I do mine, it seems to be a different level ;(
I’m just starting out, so everything is in the box at the moment. Watching this video makes me really wish I had some outboard great to play with. Great video!
Yes! There's a case to be made that if you only could use one plugin, this would be it since it basically makes all your rack gear, pedals, modular, etc. all work in the digital domain.
In order to gain stage, I use the oscillator at 0db as an insert before the I/o plugin. Calibirate the input and output of the outboard, THEN I disable or remove the oscillator when done.
Thank you!! Its been a long time since I've done this and I needed to do it for an upcoming project asap. Great explanation! I also realized how I need to do this more often for other things too. I'm working with a element 88 + WA76
This video was very helpful how to set up I/O in Logic.Coming from using a (rip off daw)Pro Tools and switch over to using Logic Pro X and Luna have to learn the software set my gear properly…..
Hi Chris, first of all, thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge on Logic Pro X. Love all your videos, and especially this one. I’ve been looking for solid answers about how “I/O External Processing”really works and, as always, you nailed it! Thank you so much! There’s only one question that remains in my mind; the setting on the buffer has to be 1024 samples or lower? Because of the latency. Sometimes I’ve experienced that Logic “print” the audio a little bit late, and I don’t know if it’s because of the buffer settings or the “ping” button, or a combination of both. Once again, thank you, and not only for the amount of content but the way you do it 🙏🏻✨💚
Top marks for your videos man. I don't even own any outboard gear, but I loved watching this one. Maybe sometime soon I'll have some routing needs. But in any case, always good to learn stuff like this. Thanks!
Hi Chris. Please could you make a tutorial for recording midi and audio from an outboard synthesiser into Logic Pro X. I'm sure a lot of people starting out with an analogue synth would appreciate this.
The other trick is to make sure the external gear is in bypass (if it has any time delay fx) as that will ensure you get the real delay and its not effected by reverb/delay/whatever
is it really necessary to make the bus to print the i/o plugin? can't you just add an audio track, and select the inputs that correspond to the outputs in the I/O plugin?
Love your videos Chris. I know you are a fan of the symphony desktop. It doesn't have a line out except optical. Anyway it can it be used with outboard gear?? Thanks
Great video :) I'm kinda new to Logic, and I'm wondering if there's a way to apply vst effects (like Valhalla reverbs) to hardware synths? I suppose the only way to do this, is to bounce the synth's sound first, and then apply the fx plugin?
thank you so much for this video. i would like to ask what cable shoule i use to connect? do i use unbalanced or balanced TRS ? when do i use XLR? it seems quite comfusin.
All of your videos have been immensely helpful, many thanks for this! Would the following work: Say I am tracking several tracks of guitars without the time based hardware effects, as I want to add them later. Can I send them all to the same bus (does it matter if its a bus or Aux send?) and have the I/O plugin on that bus an not on each separate guitar track. Can I then solo each guitar track and print the respective settings of my external effects one track after the other until they are all done?
Love your stuff, very insightfull. To add an extra way to this proces. You could just create a new track, set it to record from, lets say inputs 1&2, the inputs that recieve the incoming audio from your external gear. Same deal right? Or wont this play nice with the I/O plugin? Its seems an extra step to route internal audio to a bus and a new audiotrack recieving from that bus. just some thoughts!
Thank you for the very informative video. I have hooked up the ART compressor just like you did, but when I try to process audio through it, with the slider set to 100% wet signal on the IO plug-in, all I get is feedback. What by am I doing wrong? Thanks, Jamie
Hi, super useful video. I have a question: what you think is best for external analog summing, routing your busses into the analog mixer using I/O plugin or using the outputs without the plugin? Or it makes no differences? Thankyou!
Hello sir , great video. What if my analog gear only has one channel? (one input and one output)? will the i/o inputs and outputs show up as separate instead of grouped,like it is for you (9-10)? How could i use,for example a WA-2A in the box? would it work? Thanks in advance
Hey Chris. Great vid! I have a question. If I’m bouncing my stereo stems to tape simultaneously as I’m printing back to another track, would you use this plugin or, just route straight from the interface? Does this I/O plug-in only apply to effects or, does it also apply to an external cassette or, reel to reel, etc?
hey man! Did you ever get an answer on this? I don't have outboard gear, but have a couple reel to reels, tascam portastudio, etc. Right now, I just do it the hard way, but it's extra playback time that adds up.
Remember when we had to mix our songs from Logic, through a digital / analog mixer then bounce the final song to CD, DAT, or ADAT? This old'school style (in my opinion) sounded better than a digital "BOUNCED" file. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but could this Printing / Bouncing method with the I/O Plugin be used to produce the same or a similar effect?? For example, if I mixed a song using an Analog mixer -- adding some COMPRESSION, EQ, etc then route the main outs back into Logic Pro using the I/O plugin.... Will this method work??
Hi Chris. Thank you for this video. Just wondering if the same process works on the stereo output channel of the whole project. I’m wanting to set up an outboard “mix bus” and thought I’d use Logics I/O plug-in to do so. I imagine it would work like a digital summing mixer.
So if I'm getting the gist of how this I/O plug-in works ... this is what I would use if I want to incorporate an analog mixing board into my workflow, correct?
Hey one thing you didn’t cover was tracking live vocals or instruments in this process. What would that process be like? I want to be able to route my compressor to my interface in the same way, and record into the DAW with it.
Hey! Great point. If you want to record through your outboard gear going into the interface, you would plug your microphone into the outboard compressor and then plug the compressor into the interface. But of course, you would need a preamp before the compressor to set your microphone level accordingly. I'll try to cover this in a future video. If you don't want to commit your compressor to the recording, then you would use the I/O plugin as described in the video. That way you're just monitoring through the compressor, but not recording the compressor. Thanks!
Good video I learned a lot but I’m still having problems. I have 60 tracks that I want to run through my outboard compressor via stereo output. Do I have to use the I/O plug-in on all the tracks? I’ve only seen videos that only explain how to use the plug-in only using one or two tracks.
Hi there thank you for this nice video. So if I understand what you are explaining here, Outboard gear can include my pedal board also? Can you explain how I can use my pedals that way and wether or not it makes a difference as opposed to plugging the out of my board into the guitar inputs (5-6) of my M-Audio 192-18. And also, is there a way to synchronize the tempo of the boomerang looper with Logic when recording? I seem to always be off a bit and I do use the click.
Hey Chris, I really enjoyed the video, but you showed only one piece to use. I made the statement because I just acquired the following equipment from someone who owed me money (long story), and I am not sure how I would hook this up to my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 based on what you showed in the video. Here is what I have: Roland JV2080; Alesis QSR; Peavey Spectrum Organ; Digitech Vocalist II; ART 2 CH. Tube Pre Amp; ART PRO VLA; Lexicon MPX 100; and Behringer Tube Ultragain Compressor. I am not sure if I can hook all of this up to use in Logic for the Scarlett. Anything instruction, advice, or tips you can give me would be excellent. Thank you.
I am using an Apogee + the ART Voice Channel. I have 1&2 INPUT and then The USB-OUT as well the R&L OUT for monitoring. How would you set this up? I am trying to to replay what I recorded from my MBP - Interface - ARTVC - Interface - Headphones..... so that I can listen back to the recording as I am dialing in the ART's Comp,EQ...etc. How would you connect this? Would you use Mono or Stereo cables? Would you go mono L&R OUT into a combined STEREO single cable? Routing? Thanks. =)
I tried this but couldn't make it work. I'm getting signal to my compressor but routing it back into Logic Pro is where I'm hitting a wall. I'm using an Apollo Twin X, Logic Pro and the Warm Audio wa76 compressor.
I am using the Quad Cortex as my audio interface and, no matter what I do, the "Ping" always results in "0 sam" -- surely, the Quad Cortex is not latency free
Hi Chris, this is Miguel from spain. Great video!!!! I have a doubt and I would like to know if you could help me. I hope so. I have created a track with a drum sample. I have inserted I/O with my Art Pro VLA II. Latency detection is +6 sam and 100% wet and when I playback I hear a delay. With Low Latency Monitoring Mode the insert is baypassed (orange). I have tested with aux tracks (send, return, I/O on bus, etc) without any success, always listening the delay. Any help would be more than welcome. Thanks....
@@TRAVHILL Hi Travis, unfortunately I couldn't fix it in LPX. With PT Studio I had to do it by creating 2 aux, connecting the output of Aux 1 to Art Pro Input and the output of Art Pro to input of Aux 2. It's not the best solution having options like I/O but it works. If you get another best solution, just let me know. Cheers!
Hey Chris , helpful vid as always. Quick question . If i want to run an outboard effects pedal through soft synth via i/o can i record in realtime to capture effect in the synth or do i have to already have soft synth MIDI there and then run effects pedal through it? Hope that makes sense ;-)
I know you were asking Chris, but maybe I can help! You should be able to send your synth out and through your effect pedals in real time, or with a pre-arranged MIDI track. The only issue might be that if the latency may through off your ability to play the part in real time (if it is a significant amount of latency).
I have a focusrite 4pre interface and i tried to connect my warm audio compressor try to do everything you showed in this video but i can get sound going to the compressor, my interface have 4 inputs and 4 outputs what you think the problem can be?
Nice insights; very educative. My question tho; if the audio returning from your outboard gear is routed via an input channel on ur soundcard, why create a bus instead of picking that return input (on the soundcard) as the input for your new track?
Great question! In my experience, sometimes the latency compensation from the I/O plugin isn't accounted for when recording in the way you described. I find it safer to set up a bus instead.
Hi i know you sent it to a buss to record the processing but you can also just route the output of the track with the I/O plugin' to an audio track's input that's set to a buss right?
I'm using a 18i8 and I'm trying to put a Chase Bliss MOOD mk2 as a looped in effect using outputs 3-4 coming back in on 5-6 (i's a stereo pedal). I cannot get it to work even trying to set routing in Focusrite Control. Any suggestions anyone?
Hi regarding routing the signal back into logic via the interface. I'm using a behringer X32 as my interface, and the onboard effects, but since they are one and the same I think I need to route somehow on the desk to return to logic. do you have any ideas on what this would be?
Your videos are very helpful, thanks for doing this. I have noticed a small discrepancy using this ping method. I have a uad x4 & when I use the ping option, I also get 1 sample latency offset. So I ve decided to check with sample clip recorded from the test oscilator plug with frequency set to 1KHz. I copied/pasted the clip in two different tracks & I flipped the phase in one of them. The result is that it doesn't cancel completely, which can be expected from the one hand, but if I drop the latency offset back to zero it cancels a bit more (as the total output level is reduced further). Do you have any idea what might causing this ? Thanks a lot
hello, can someone help me? I am using analog inserts and an analog summing mixer. everything works fine but i can't do SOLO in any track, nothing is heard. does anyone know how to fix it?thanksss