35:20 - well .. s4 didnt shine... it was all about ana insane carry skills and insane jerax supporting skills.... jerax is probably the best support of in dota history, everyone knew it.. everyone feared it... Earth Spirit hero was literally nerfed to the ground because of that one player.... once he retired dota, the hero was buffed up multiple patches and made noob friendlier , so its now playable for noobs even :D
01:08:37 The first guy shaking Notail's hand is Crit. Remember he played for OG in the first roster. That's why he was so salty. During TI Notail was interviewed backstage while walking and Crit was walking past and bumped him in the shoulder without even turning his head. This is why in True Sight the coach gives a shoulder massage to Notail asking him "is this the one?".
To fully understand why Fly leaving was such a devastating betrayal, you need to understand that these guys played together not just since TI2 in 2012, but since the emergence of the competitive scene in Heroes of Newerth, in 2009. They won DreamHack Winter 2011 with their HoN roster and switched to DotA the following year. These guys had been best friends for almost a decade, and Fly left out of the blue with no warning, after conspiring with another team to make sure they had somewhere to go after departing. Not airing his grievances and trying to solve them or build the team back up, but doing it in this underhanded way after being together for such a long time.
This happened almost 2 years ago, man. But, I'm still getting hype. I remember watching this live and I went to work the next day without sleep, and I did not even get sleepy at work. This for me literally is the most hype series in Dota 2 history.
That blink, call, blade mail on Axe was the turning point of game 4. Was so cool to hear Seb calmly say "this is my game bois" to his team 5 minutes before making that game-changing play. I watched this whole series live, calling in sick to work for 3 days straight, and absolutely lost my s*** when they won haha. This video brings back great memories.
I decided that I had to get to ti8 since it was on Canada that year. I figured that was my only chance to experience TI and boy was it worth it. BEST TI OF ALL TIME!
1:04:10 I know this video is years old and I'm just here for nostalgia, but in case someone still reads this: One of the biggest reasons for games to turn around (besides from the obvious things like throws or insane/lucky plays or standard magic burst falloff in lategame) is the concept of spikes. There are item and level spikes in Dota for each hero an each hero's spikes can be at different times/levels. One obvious one is of course level 6 where heroes get their ultimate abilities. Another pretty obvious one is when initiators get their blink dagger. You can initiate without being scouted (usually with smoke which hides you from wards) with an ability that e.g. stuns/disables most of the enemy team at once like Tide's ulti, Enigma's ulti or Magnus' ulti. These can result in huge turnarounds. Other item spikes could be something like a BKB on a carry or a hero that has channeling abilities so he can't be disabled from dealing damage. Other level spikes could be something like level 15 on IO during TI9 times when he got his damage dealing talent. Then there's the "timing" issue and strategies. If you draft for a split push strategy with e.g. Natures Prophet, you have to end the game before the enemy team has items that allow them to quickly dispose of the split pusher (e.g. boots of travel + blink + hex). Or if you follow an early push strat usually with heroes that all spike in the level 6 range, you have to "deathball" at that time or you will also lose. So for example, if your team has an early-game focused strat and doesn't manage to win the game before the enemy team (which might be focused on a late-game focused strat) hits their critical mass, you will probably lose despite being ahead but not behing ahead enough. And of course there's the hero synergies and the billions upon billions of possible hero combinations and when their synergies can hit spikes. Add to that billions of item combinations and you begin to grasp why this can happen.
1:02:05 to answer your question. sumail really close to fear, he wins TI5 with fear, sumail respect him alot because fear was the one who scouted him and ask him to join EG at the time. and thats why he put "fear" in the end of his nickname
There was a little more drama than that. Not only had Fly left N0tail, his girlfriend had also left him during the same time for Karrigan (the CSGO player). After winning the TI N0tail also posted a song on his twitter, the '83 funk song Somebody Else's Guy by Jocelyn Brown.
1:04:30 exactly why i love dota. Would you watch an hour of fight when you already know that there is no chance for the other team pulling through. Its exactly because you can make a come back in dota that its sp fun. I know there are these power spikes in league where the first team to reach that spile have so much advantage. Exactly the reason why i didnt play league as much as dota and eventually dropping it.
This is the biggest esports Cinderalla Story. I remember watching this entire tournament live and it was such huge hype. Especially since almost all of OGs games after the groupstage went the whole way including many comebacks. Best TI by far and made me become a fan of OG for sure. Especially since I remember Notail and Fly coming over from HoN (together with Era and Trixi). They were kinda laughed at and not that successful for quite a while.
hand warmer on esports stage is very common, because of the air conditioner and the adenine rush make your hands cold, hand warmer relax the blood vessel to avoid the hand being stiff
They play with heart, PSG LGD is the definition of machine perfection, cold calculater precision but they dont seem enjoy the game and under stressed a lot, meanwhile OG Notail let his friend use the heroes they wanted and just enjoyed the game. I think these common scene on esport now, pro player seems less enjoying the game because the stress and what expected of them. OG show in then its about enjoying game you like with people who care and trusted you
1:04:00 In league the heroes are so simple so there is less mistakes made so when a team is ahead they are 100% sure to win, in Dota 2 the heroes are so complex so there are more mistakes made and when the team ahead makes those mistakes they lose the game. The comeback mechanic of dota 2 is really good thats why we see these people who get their bases destroyed and have 20k+ gold deficit win the game and that comeback mechanic makes the games interesting to watch because you never really know who will win until they do.
Ana left OG after 2016 on his own accord because he said that he couldn't deal with the pressure that people put on him. And he wanted to kinda just relax and get on with his life. OG didn't kick him out, he left.
I played both of them and LoL is the more difficult to comeback since enemy is OP when they are well farmed also the dragon attributes makes it more unbalances
It's so funny reading LoL players are like League is more difficult and blah blah blah. I've played both HoN League and dota 2 And Dota is so much more complex than League League doesn't have a steep learning curve like Dota2 has. Like the fact that you constantly have to check both the enemy creeps and your own creeps health to deny and get last hits really determines whether you win your lane or lose it. Don't get me wrong tho league is still a skill based game and all that but i just feel like the skill ceiling in Dota2 is so much higher
That game will be forever underrated. The context its all. OG was already one of the biggest team by that time, Ad Finem was no more than some random tier 2 team that was expected to dissapear after the major, somehow the ultimate underdog managed its way to the finals. Winning the crowd on the way with theirs antimeta approach to the game, infinite hero pool and maybe the best and funniest to watch pos 4. Also, they were asked how they wanted to be cheered, they said "like Spartans, au! au ! au!" And so it was. Awesome game.
i honestly have no idea why this video is up redbull didn't even respond yet lol, youtube says it will be public untill they respond? i don't really understand but enjoy
You know who in the worse position of all this drama? The_Evany. She the manager of OG who in relationship with Fly. Gosh, had to maintain those professional facade yo
The other commentstor you were asking is called purge he makes dota 2 guides and videos since the beta . He is famous for his patch analysis. Videos of 8 hours . Check some of his gameplay videos
Not since the beta he is the first player to ever make a video guide about DotA, basically since DotA 1 days, that's how he started as an analyst the very first analyst of DotA is Purge. If you are around since DotA day's then you would've known about back then.
I followed Fnatic MSI since their HoN days around 2009 (maybe 2010, my memory is hazy) , pretty much the unbeatable team. 2013 they transitioned to DotA 2 (HoN pro scene starts to show signs of dying, the grass is looking greener on DotA 2 scene) 2014 drama happened, Fnatic supposedly wanted to replace Era with Xcalibur for TI 4 but disputes happens, the team are forced to stick together or get disqualified by Valve. Trivia1: Era was the youngest competitive player and champion in HoN. Trivia 2: Orange Malaysia only lasted for one year - 2013, 2nd runner up during TI3, they lost the game due to a grave mistake -accidentally Aegis deny by kyxy. The star mid player Mushi got poached to join China Team DK, the favorites to win TI 4 but due to strategy leak they ended up as the 3rd runner up of TI 4. Trivia 3: TnC was known as the new SEA (pretty sure it is full Philippines line up) that slain multiple pro teams during TI 4/5.
Of course they meant Boston as in Boston, just like Manila Major was in Manila, Shanghai Major was in Shanghai and so on.. It would be really strange to have Boston Major in Sweden, or the Shanghai Major in Lithuania, you know..:P "Dota is definitely a late game kind of game", it's 36 minutes into the game which is mid game, late game hasn't even started yet. You have much to learn, young Padawan.
@@enVybiaN_nVbN fly doesn't suck at all. he played with OG for years and it didn't work, so he left. he did it in a very shitty and scummy way, but most people would do that if they see no progress, but want to achieve their goal.
@@ivanpenev8970 it’s understandable to see s4 leaving but fly,he parts of the team,he own the team bro,his girlfriend is the team manager.Why would a captain leaving his team right 3month before ti.It still make sense leaving team that not working,but did he win ti after join eg?nope.
@@enVybiaN_nVbN as he said though, he had no faith in that team. he thought eg will give him better chances of progressing. and he did. he made top 3 with eg, which is his highest accomplishment if i remember correctly
the reason that one team is winning then all of a sudden can start losing, is because DOTA 2 has a " come back " mechanic built into the game. Its specifically designed if you can kill the main core with the kill streaks etc, it rewards greater gold and XP when you kill them. They kill you for 300gold, but when you end their streak and get the kill, you get 1,800gold for example back. That injection of gold and XP swings the game back.
1:22:15 , Enchantress is right clicking ceb's axe, He has an item (blade mail) that reflects the damage you do back on yourself for a little bit of time .. and as she does more damage the further she is it hurts :) hope that helps
He actually looked stupid as he keeps on reacting to things he obviously does have a little knowledge about. Was annoyed and laughing at the same time while watching this lollllll
dota has a ton of tournaments apart from the ~8 pro tournaments a year there are about as much tier 2,3 and 4 tournies+theres a ton of local tournies in big citys (i mean not as much right now w/ covid but in general)
most announcers/background voices are casters/experts from dota that are usually in the panel area/Casting boot for TI all of them play dota, some of them have even been to TI. Theres i think 2 of them which are just well known sport psychological people
34:52 "I think it's weird they're not mentioning the guy who won an International" S4 was the best mid in the world and won the 1st two 1v1 competitions they had. The only two he was in. S4 rarely talks. He only talks to people who have won an international.
1:04.18 - That's by design. Aside from the rubber band mechanic of killsprees, etc. - the key factor is that all heroes are imba so it ends up none being. That means even with a gold advantage, getting the right wombo-combo can still make you win a game despite being big time ahead. Then you get a tower or two + all the killspree gold or Roshan and suddenly the game evens out. Now of course rubber band mechanics are tricky, because it can punish the better team. But when it's not over the top it is just better for the viewer.
in dota they implemented in the past years alot of updates that make comebacks more possible like u get alot more exp then in probably any other moba if u kill highlvl hero, u have 4 bounty runes every couple minutes so one good fight and taking them is a huge gold swing. The new killstreaks that give huge amounts like there were games ti9 someone had like 6 kills and then got killed 1 time by an enemy and that enemy jumped his level just by that. I really like it tough
9:49 so each of player had their own game kit (like mouse, keyboard and headset((if you can use your own headset)), before they play they will just store em to valve, when they play it just setted at the stage, and after that some people from valve will pick it up for them
There's one type of play style I would say is around 15 minute finish: Death ball. Straight up heroes with lots of units, pushing potential, owning from the very first minute... But it could go wrong if that plan doesnt work
1:04:40 that's because Dota 2 comeback mechanics is soooo different from League. There's actually a lot of ways to comeback in a game of Dota 2 compared to League.
Its a blessing in disguise that Fly left OG. If FLy didnt left OG, they (OG) would have not won 2 TI's. Notail considers him a like a true brother in the end Fly left him because of money.
Lol imagine decades from now they make this into a movie like thr remember the titans or other sports underdog story that goes through adversity lol truly crazy what happened.
Axe didn't get the enchantress with the call. The enchantress just focused on taking him down first because of his ultimate that can easily kill the 3 low hp heroes.
League is very simple. In league skill matters above all. League has much more objectives to fight for and still has much fewer fights. League is all about farm, farm, farm. Dota is more about roaming and dota has much more tactics involved :) That's why miracles happens in dota
Found you on my recommendations and had to sub! You have such a positive energy and seem to have personality like Skadoodle in CS. Chill and happy. Hope you do well and keep on working!
TIME STAMP @ 1:04:27 Talking about the lead. Actually that's the best thing about Dota 2. there will always be room for comebacks. That's mainly why I went back to Dota 2 when it came out. LoL was too EASY for me. It felt like a kids game for moba.
The idea of dota is that there is always a possibility to win, (most cases), is designed that way, if you are behind, you win more gold and xp from hero kills.
"not mentioned the other guy" S4 was one of the best midlaners ever, however, during that time eventhough he was still a good player, he already past his peak. Players do decline as they get plder because their reflexes becomes slower, not only on sports but also in esports. He was also playing in a position (offlaner) which he was not known for (midlaner). Ana was not kicked. He took a break (hiatus) away from Dota 2 because he can't handle the pressure at that time. There was only 4 Majors a year. The places changes every Major though that's why you get this Manila Major, Kiev Major, etc.
