London's Map, Explained 

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Ahaha I could never

@@DanielsimsSteiner Yeah Jay's way too serious compared to this satirical nonsense (Please do a collab next time you're in the UK)

I could binge on both all day long.

I’ll mark the settlement on your map

I'm from the states and kinda taken aback at how much it even grates me, he just keeps saying it!!!

Yeah I was a bit shocked to keep hearing that!

/ðeːmz/ or "thaymz. would have been how the Thames was pronounced in Shakespearean times. That is preserved in Rhode Island, for example, where there is a street Thames that is pronounced as /ðeːmz/ or "thaymz." The pronunciation in Britain changed to "temz" (/tɛmz/) over the years but the memo never reached the US. As with so many pronunciation and spelling differences between US and UK English, the US versions are usually the more conservative (ie older) versions. (p.s. I'm a Londoner).

I reckon it's a manipulative troll to get people to comment

It's all arbitrary.

This video wouldn’t exist without you. Thank you!!

I just ordered your book so it will remind me when I come to the UK next, to book a tour!

are you having “coronated” flashbacks? 😉

It's always interesting to hear how visitors to the city pronounce Thames. It feels like such a simple word to me purely down to familiarity but the sheer breadth of different pronunciations I've heard over the years is kind of incredible. I didn't know there were so many ways to pronounce such a short word.

@@ArtemisScribe I think it comes down to it being not very intuitive. Starts with a "th" that doesn't get pronounced like one, which is quite uncommon I think. I'm sure there are other examples, but I can't think of any right now :D It then goes on with "ames" which looks like the very common words "names" and "games" and "same", all of which are pronounced differently to how Thames is pronounced. I never really had an issue with the pronunciation being from Germany, because we call that river the "Themse" (pronounced like in English but with an added E at the end), and TH often is pronounced T in German, so the correct pronunciation feels right to me. But I can see how a lot of people can get very confused by it because it doesn't follow the most obvious pronunciation rules.

Tell him

If we didn’t have the second amendment, the King of England could come barging into your house right now and start pushing you around. Do you want that? Huh? Do you want someone pushing you around?

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An older, much snarkier, equally funny Jay Foreman

It's also funny because the French did destroy the medieval layout of Paris to replace it with wide straight streets and a radial grid

Wow I’m so glad!! Thank you!

"Wake up babe, this joke is officially completely played out."

Hmm that’s weird that someone who lives and works there says different

​​​@@Newportbanking"Never let facts ruin a good story" The trouble is the City is a very unique place because it has been unique since "Time Immemorial". Things that help perpetuate the myth include: The ceremony itself, although no permission is ever asked for or given. The fact that William the Conqueror essentially did a deal with the City to say "you can keep on doing what you are doing so long as you accept me as King". The Magna Carta says "the City of London shall have all its ancient liberties by land as well as by water". Nowhere or no one else has this clause. Also in the city of London, The Lord Mayor is the next important person after the Monarch, while in the rest of the country it would be the Monarch's consort and then Heir, the rest of the royal family and probably archbishops. As well as being a bit of a City Nerd I am sometimes a contractor to the Corporation of London.

⁠​⁠@@NewportbankingIt’s not weird when you think about it, he’s clearly a very passionate man and unfortunately someone who is passionate about a topic will sometimes believe and repeat myths that make the thing they love more interesting than it actually is. It’s like video game / film / book lore. Obsessive fans of a piece of content will learn everything there is to know about it and then go further by coming up with their own lore, backstories, interpretations, headcanons, etc and sometimes they like that lore so strongly that they repeat it as fact and the community just accepts it as fact. But it’s still just made up. This particular myth is very similar to idea of that the American who bought London Bridge thought he was buying Tower Bridge. It’s a fun story that tourists love to hear and tour guides love to tell. It’s not true but a lot of people really want it to be true. It’s a problem that this video seems to use a tour guide as its main source. Tour guides are generally more entertainers than historians.

This means the world!! I’m so glad 🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you so much

King 👑

Yes! love this city

Temz would be more accurate. And it's not specific to Londoners. Whole UK knows how to pronounce it!

It is very unintuitive for the rest of the world, even us Australians are quite confused at the strange dialect those in the motherland speak.

At least they didn't say Thaymz

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what?!?! NO fucking way this collab is an all timer!!!!!!

I went last year, and I might need to go back! The tour I was on didn't point out any old bits of wall.

@@EmpressLizard81What tour did you go on?

He might have been in greater manchester

Yeah I noticed that too. need to get a mic arm 😬

Yes! You’re right thank you for catching this.