Long Bib Shorts for tall and thin people 

This video doesn’t apply to me but I like your videos 😀👍

Thanks for making this video. I bought the Endura shorts after seeing this video last year... Love them so much I just got another set!

Bought the Endura SL Pros they are perfect. Thanks for the video and advice.

Have a look at la passione, the minimal bib shorts have excellent grippers and compression. Don't let the indicated inseam length fool you. I am 181cm and 70kg, and take a small, it's perfection. The material they use for these bib shorts are super stretchy.

180cm and 63kg and I have the exact same problem. I bought new shorts last week and as usual the waist fitment is fine but the leg length or rather lack of leg length sucks. Up-sizing to get a longer leg is pointless as a belt with cycling shorts is definitely not cool. Awesome video!

Went on the same journey as you several years ago and also landed on the Endura Pro SL long leg. I’m 198cm and 82kg, so not as slim as you and I don’t have issues with getting bibs to fit my thighs, but the length on these is great. Also really nice quality and not too expensive, although the price has gone up since I bought them.

The struggle is real bro. I'm 6 feet tall and 165lbs. Usually my bib shorts are size small. Good to see more content from your channel, it's been a little while :)

Surprisingly this has been Super Helpful! I measure up almost spot on with your measurements and I haven't found anything to fit me well in South Africa. Thanks!

you should try "the black bibs" long version. !!! they are really long.

I agree with you about the 7mesh bibs, although not as slim I’m 188cm in height and find the leg length far too short. Pity as everything else about them is good. Ive started to get pedal mafia bibs from Perth in Aus, super comfy and great longer leg length. Aussie sizes are bigger than the Italian/Raphael/et al so you’d have to ask them about the leg length at the size you’d be looking at.

198cm, 75 kg! This speaks to me! I'm actually using the 7Mesh MK3 bibs in small and found that they work fine but maybe a bit too tight down there. Thank god the shoulder straps feel so good because otherwise they wouldn't work for me. I have ordered the cargo version in medium and should get it next week. Hoping they are perfect for me. I really like the seamless look too.

I have the same issue, I found NEOPRO cycling gear from Australia fits me well, best cuff on the end of the shorts I've ever worn. Great CEO too, she always gets back to you via email regarding sizing.

I've been wearing Rapha Thigh Warmers (not for sale anymore), just to get an extra 4cm of length on my Rapha Pro Team Long size medium bib shorts. Mavic and Pactimo make thigh warmers. They're not as comfortable as just wearing shorts but they are nice in temps about 14 to 20c.

Another suggestion for you to try is pedal mafia tech bib, i have this problem as well and these are nice and long.

Great feature. I tend to have this issue with bib shorts too. At around 78kg and 183cm tall, so you'd think I'd fall into the clothing brands sizing criteria pretty well. However, my thighs seem long for my leg length, and most shorts, if they fit in the pad and backside areas will be too short on the leg. Some good advice in the video about what to look for. Despite riding for over 30 years, I didn't appreciate, "long", bibs were a thing!

Somebody already mentioned it but Black Bibs makes a tall version of their bibs with extra length, though honestly, I find their regular sized bibs already a bit long... then again, I like my shorts to fit shorter.

Glad I found this at 187cm and 65kg I have similar problems, I’ve found Castelli good for very slim fit on the bibs even getting away with XL despite what the size guide says. however the shoulder straps still are a little short and mess with my posture. Annoyingly a general rule of thumb for clothing has been if it’s the most expensive legit pro team tier I’ve found the sizes tend to get taller not fatter but it’s not always the case and gets very expensive. I have the same issue with mountaineering kit too with my long arms

I'm a big beanpole (195cm and 70kg) and I can't go past the Pedla SuperFIT Knicks. The length is ideal and the lack of stitching makes them super comfy. I highly recommend them

Video right up my alley! 198cm, 80kg. Also have the Endura bibshorts! Absolutely love them :)

This is so much the opposite of what I'd expect. I have thick thighs and I have issues finding jeans or shorts that don't feel like my circulation is being cut off without looking like dumpy dad shorts. While shopping for bibs, it always feels like they make them for those lanky looking guys in the peloton and not for people with thick thighs. I had no idea this was an issue. Good tips and glad you found some options!

Hello, second comment as I've just remembered the Castelli oomloop bib shorts are EXTRA long, and go almost over most mere mortal's knees. They came out a few years back for pros to use in the spring classics, and I've seen them used by real pro racers I know and they all say how good they are [not paid to] So they could be perfect.

If your never heard or tried La Passione from Italy. Try their products. The go-to cycling clothes for my 196 cm, long legs and arms and overall spider body.

6’1” 150# , 185cm 68kg. I am 46 and have worn the same size pants since I was 20.

191cm /64kg and all legs. I know that struggle. My Rapha Pro Team V1 "long" work good for me, as well as their insulated version. I recently picked up a La passione PSN Bibshorts. It works well. But the absolut Bang for the bucks/Budget recommendation I have is the Sportful Neo Bibshorts. Longer then all the others, very comfy (even for 300km!) and you can pick them up for 50-60€ in Europe.

Just 1 minute into this video and directly feel so adressed! I am very close to your sizing. Thank you for catching this topic! I am 186cm and 60kg. Doing quite good with Santini Bibs, because they have very (!) good grippers on the higher end products and so leg length is okay for me. Best one I have is an old one from 2XU in size XS but sadly this was discontinued. Still searching for a cargo bib but without luck yet...

Let me throw in another potential option. I'm 184cm/85kg and have quite big thighs. Size M always works for me, but recently I brought bib shorts from Morvélo and they are unbelievable long. So long in fact, that I need to think twice before wearing them on a sunny day, because the tan line will be just above the kneecap. *I just checked their website and the sizing chart says inside leg length to be 32cm for both M and S!

It’s been a while, great to see another vlog.👍

Hi Guys.Im 194cm 81kg Picked up a pair of Endura Pro sl long a couple of weeks ago in medium,as perfect for my size as they come.Also for a cargo short I have a pair of Sportful Giara, very good as well with almost perfect leg length.Like Rides of Japan Im tall and skinny and find it super difficult to find cycle clothing that fits,luckily I have a sewing lady that does alterations if needed.Castelli tops in large fit both jerseys and jackets,the Alpha ROS jacket with the inner zipped layer is also a good choice for a winter jacket(I live in Tasmania).Cheers guys.

I'll throw in a personal favorite and tip: the Gore C7 long distance bibs.

I have been rocking the endura sl long legs for 2 months now, super happy with them. 193cm / 70kg, always have problems with cycling clothing. Do you have any recomendations for jerseys? They are often too short for size M for me too.

SIX2 bib shorts, great fabric and pad (subjective, I know), longer leg length than usual on my other bib shorts and comfortable straps.

I'm scrawny, and I like the info on this video. I've noticed that with my Specialized bibs...they are looser in the leg opening that I'd like.

I have the same issue. Currently, I feel good in these bib shorts, Castelli free aero race 4 bibshort and Biehler bibshort. For your reference.

I'm 190cm, 70kg and for jeans my waist size is 30 inches. I only have one pair so far, from Castelli. Not sure about the model, but it might be a Velocissimo. But I did get it in XL and its skin tight everywhere. Unfortunately I don't have any comparison when it comes to the padding (only a MTB short with padding, but not really comparable), but I'm usually pretty comfortable in my Castelli on rides up to 100km. Will keep an eye on the padding situation though, maybe I was simply satisfied because it was better than no padding at all ^^

Great idea to raise this topic! I am 193 cm and 72 kg. So the Endura is probably best. BUT how about the quality of the shammy’s? That is very important as well!

As an XXL (heading towards XL) I can’t find anything in Japan and have found ordering Rapha (when on sale) has been good for me at the other end of the spectrum.

It's usually always hard to find general manufactured apparel, that fits perfectly in every situation. Custom built apparel would be ideal, but not everyone can spend the time and money, for custom fit apparel.

Your videos are getting so professional, NJ! This was pretty funny for me, I used to wrestle decades ago. With your measurements, if you wrestled, you would be referred to as a spider lol. If you were ontop you could drape your arms and legs totally around an opponent on all fours, easily, which is why we would refer to you as a spider. I was about 10 lbs lighter than you and 5" shorter. Now I am 20 lbs heavier than you (healthier weight). Your mentioning the reference for how you measure is great. I went to bibs, so comfortable and it reminds me of wrestling - similar shoulder straps. Nukeproof has a bib that has ample length, you might try that but maybe not the quality you are looking for. The legs are a bit big though. 2 rear pockets and 2 minis on each thigh, which i love. I now wear baggies, i have a plastic bottle shirt that works great, not having a shirt hugging me, plus my gut is a bit big. For trails and shopping i like wearing an mtb overpant - wiping out on the trails easily puts holes in our expensive bibs, a bit hot, but not bad for wet commutes, shopping and off roading. Thx again for your great vids. I love your background wheel. I am thinking of making a lamp from an old 26" wheel, i gave one wheel to someone who's brake track delaminated.

Endura makes long in certain models. Check carefully before ordering because the ‘normal’ length , which is the default, is egregious. Also, Pactimo make long in certain models. Long to them is 26.5 cm. An aside on Pactimo leg warmers and tights- they make them with zippers at the ankles. Super good feature not found from hardly any other mfr. . There’s also a nice thermal tight without pad- a nice option seldom seen. Pactimo seems to have it together.

I'm 203cm and 88kg, I've been using castelli endurance shorts, size medium. Given up on bibs... Have no problem with no shoulder straps. I don't find them to be excessively short, but I used to be a split short wearing competitive runner, so don't listen to me 🤣

I'm at the opposite end of the scale: I have very thick thighs for my height (183 cm) and I find myself quite often having to choose between bib shorts which fit the upper side of my body just fine but are way too tight on the thighs and bib shorts which properly fit my calves but stay way too loose on the body and shoulders. And the irony is that the models I've been used for years have started becoming tighter and tighter on the thighs for the same size as newer iterations were put on the market up to the point I had to move up from a size L to a size XL (even though all my other pairs of bib shorts are size L). And of course, because of that, the chamois-covered area is bigger than previously as well and is therefore misaligned.

Fun fact. 7 mesh was formed by arcteryx employees (high end outdoor gear, ultrasonic welded seams, only company that gore allows to work with goretex in their won factory. Alot of 7 meshes has simmilar high end construction as my mountaineering gear. The price they're asking for compared to other brands is super reasonable. I'm a small in 7 mesh but I'm 6ft 4 and about 195lbs. Built like a sprinter skinny waist thick thighs and big upper body.

I have this problem somewhat, but my hips and quads are not skinny, but I’m still wearing a small with a 27” waist and 34” hips. I can’t wear bibs though I hate straps. Roka only offers their bib shorts on special, but they do offer an 11” inseam over the 9”, that’s a great length for me. I cut off the straps and I like the laser cut hem they have.

Well, hello from the other side of the spectrum. It sucks to be down there, too. Pretty hard to find bibs for a shorty with wider base. Ended up with 7mesh and Castelli..

I'm currently 185cm and 72kg... so not in this very refined category... however. I think my new Albion Cycling ABR1 Bib Shorts might be perfect for you. The length goes almost to my knee and I have a pretty long leg to body ratio. They're su[er comfy, and the straps on the shoulders are very stretchy but support well. They do world wide shipping too. Nice one.

Take the loose fitting ones to a tailor. If you have an old one worn out elsewhere you can add length from those.

I’m the same height as you, wish I was the same weight!

2:52 good god man.

Great video! Well I am 194 cm and 90 kg, so bibshorts is not really a problem for me. But my achilles' heel is head tube length and frame geometry. I think a lot a bike companies mess up the geometry and the looks of bikes by putting in a >20cm head tube, so your basically riding around looking like a bus with the agility of an aircraft carrier

I'm no spider myself, but I've tried shorts without bibs RH+ and have found them comfy.

If only you could do a video for the rest of the clothes in my wardrobe. 199cm and skinny upper body, everything is a nightmare 😭

Fellow lank here- super helpful review.

I am far off from belonging to the spider people but the thumbnail is 👍 and I always like your videos! Thanks for the effort you put into every one 😎

hey brother im 5 foot 5....126lbs CRAFT train pack bibs are good try the HALE glow craft bibs......for taller guys

Ah the video I have always wanted !

damn I usually have the problem that my legs are to thick for most shorts, they are ok but its a bit harder to put on.

If you want a winter weight bibshort, Castelli Omloop is worth a try

I saw Isoles out of Denmark make long leg versions of their bibs.

Interesting topic! You need to visit an alterations tailor 😁 The Endura pro SL long leg is now my "go to" bib short. Im 188cm, 79 kg and always find normal sizes way too short. Except my thighs are not skinny like yours - 41cm at the short leg opening. I went for the narrow pad (why do they offer wider pads??)

Great vid as always!!! 1 suggestion: have you considered some leg strength training? It would definitely help in the glutes tigh areas and riding in general ;)

I am 180cm, 95kg with short legs, big ass and thights. I have not one piece of gear that fits me. I need size 2xl bibs to even get in and then they are way to long. Castelli Gabba Jacket in 2xl, still feels too tight around upper arms and armpits, at the Same time sleeves are about 10cm to long. This is so frustrating.

As a fellow freak(188c 160#) I find Specialized has some well fitting bibs, also Gore Bike has several in both summer and winter constructions below and above the knee. I also like endura and Sugoi

I'm only 175cm (71kgs(big ass I think)) but have the same problem with leg length. I've been using the Endura Pro SL. I first tried the minimal pad, but that isn't good for long rides, gone over to the medium pad; at the moment only on the turbo trainer, but have to admit I'm not impressed with the padding on Endura so far.

Nice Video as always, I love your stuff... and its really interesting in which areas one can dig to become a little bit strange ;-) . 2cm is not so serious if you cope with tan lines two cm higher as usual or if you have a 2cm shorter Pant and one of your prefered length, you will get two tan lines with a nice tricolore.

Best thumbnail ever?

Great video. I am a very similar size. I have had my eye on the Endura long. I have the old version just in normal length. Can I ask what size you settled on? According to sizing I am between xs and s. I have xs of old version and it feels a bit compressed/ tight. Thanks

you know, people with athletic build have it hard too. Many clothes of different brands are too tight in chest area in size L and too big in belly area in size XL. The same with long trousers, if something fits on my thigs it will be too big in the ankle xD

Great video, thanks for the advice. I also mountain bike and prefer not to wear road bib shorts. Most mountain shorts way too baggy. Any advice for slim fit mountain bike shorts, even without pad inserts. Thanks

I was almost sure that title of the video is a pun for Rapha Powerweave Bib Short. Especially for a weight weenie, considering their low weight.

This focuses heavily on the leg but at 6’4” my issue has always been the bib pulling down on my shoulders/neck, even with size large. I gave up. It would be nice to have adjustable straps. I just wear shorts and don’t bother anymore.

Eliel Cycling make nice bib shorts with 28cm (11") inseam. Made in California. I love mine. Longest ride has been 375km

Spider team : 1m83 and 86cm inseam. Rapha cargo bib in small is ok for me. Assos in small is not ok for exemple.

Theoretically this video isnt for me as I can wear a size medium bib with 183cm and ~70kg. But with spider legs, it is also hard to find a well fitting bib. I went for Gore (I think C7) and it is a tad short, but has awesome straps. My favourite is the Rapha Core Cargo bib with its excellent pad and length. The straps could be a little longer. A mix of these two would be perfekt I guess.

193 cm 72 kg. Any sportful shorts in large and castelli jerseys in large fit me well. Castelli climbers and areo race jerseys work well for me.

Tldr short recommendation at the end. Ok so I'm am almost your exact measurements + 1cm in height. I have also struggled with bib length, and I had the v1 of the maap bibs for a long time. For me, those were great, but would sometimes slip. I tried the endura bibs, and like you said the length was great. Likewise, I also didn't like that they didn't have a gripper band and were just lazer cut. My biggest problem, however, was the height of the short up my stomach. It just really was not tall enough, and I would get a gap between the shorts and my small-xsmall jerseys if I stood upright, so for like the last couple of months I've been looking for bibs that were tall up the front. I tried the eroe bibs that someone commented. Those were still short and didn't stay in place for me, but were exceptionally tall up front. I just tried the le col pro blackout bibs in a small, and these are perfect!! Nice, big leg grippers, really long (13 cm from the front of the knee/ 28-29 cm on person), and tall enough that they even cover my belly button so there is no gap to my jersey. Try them out! Tldr: Try the le col pro bibs, it's like they are built specifically for lanky people.

Well, we are the same height at least!

Fellow twig here , I also have to get longer bibs in size small

Hello fellow twigs

Great explanation 🇲🇽 ✌️

A spider body, yes!!!That's the body I dream about having, mine looks to much like Peter Sagan!!!!!!! Dang it!! I mean this in a good way of course :-)

Hey, try prism.bike. Has super long legs and can even ask for an extension. super comfy bibs. I'm 183 and run a small knicks too.

i really enjoythe Endura pro sl + 4 CM

Mavic Allroad bib shorts? No personal experience, but they are advertised to have longer leg length and pockets.

Katusha ICON Long bibs - I have some and they are just brilliant. They add 4.5cm to their normal bib and they fit me a treat. I'm 185cm, 68kg, with a slim and V-E-R-Y long leg length, and these grip my skinny legs perfectly and look and work great. I take a medium and they come to just above my knee - the inseam measures at 30cm using your scientific measurement method, which is exactly what Katusha say they are. They say size Small measures 29cm, so I've no reason to believe it won't be true. I just checked the Katusha website and it looks like they don't have any available at the moment, but when available again, definitely worth checking them out. They do have Small in stock at Bike24 - ON SALE - if they ship to Japan. Good luck - and keep creating the entertaining content

Just the advice i was looking for! 197cm for 74 kg, i guess i’ll trie the M size Endura if it Ships to EU ... thanks!

Well, I have zero useful comment to add here seeing as I’m 174cm/88kg so have the opposite problem. Tree trunks, anyone? My most comfortable bibs (Castelli premio?) are too long and buying winter tights that fit is basically impossible. So for me it Rule#5 🙄. Do Endura have a “stumpy” fit too, please? 🤣

The Athletic socks? I love them

I'm 188cm in a m, and I love the black bibs ultimate short inseam myself.

What are the # of chain links (KMC11} do you use for the Shimano 11-40 & 11-46 cassettes? I have similar OPEN UP (size & components). I have two sets of wheels, ENVE SES 3.4 AR rims w/ Chris King hubs, WTB Exposure 32mm tires and ENVE G27 rims w/Chris King hubs and WTB Venture 47 (not that it matters...) Also, have two chainrings 42 & 44, will use the one that works best with both wheel sets

Whats the opposite of spider people? I have short legs and arms.

any suggestions closer to or under $100? I'm ~190cm 75kg .. I've tried the black bibs Co but they're a bit too cheap and don't fit well

finally a video for me i'm 180 and 59 kg and no shorts fit me well

I was wondering what RidesOfJapan was doing. Bibbing it up it turns out. :)

173cm/60kg here, using La Passione bib size XS , not crazy long-to-the-knee but acceptable length, so I'm guessing a size S would be slight longer

I was kinda hoping for you to get a maap sponsorship 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

1m91, 73kg, i feel you 😅 I wear Assos Large

Rapha actually do bibs shorts with regular or longer legs

Can you do one for short fat people now?

あなたの立派な静脈血管がアスリートの証ですね。素晴らしい。ビブの特集はユニークですね。Tour de Franceで人気のないところで走りながら何かぷっぷーしてますが、丈の長さも影響しますね。

6ft, 220... equally as hard for us bigger guys to find kit... PITA... If only one of the lux brands would make the adjustable (dual seam where they can be cut to accommodate thinner guys and dual leg seams so us thicker guys don’t have to have them extend beyond our knees... Etc.