Long, Long Time | The Last of Us Episode 3 Reaction 

This was such a sad episode! 😢😭

This flashback wasnt in the game, but bill and frank gay relationship was, but in the game frank was already dead and bill survived and you only knew about it reading the in game notes etc.

The strawberries scene is significant is this is Frank showing Bill he can be a provider. My belief is most of their relationship (at least at the beginning) is based on Bill being the provider/protector, mostly likely being the one acquiring supplies, food and maintaining their security. When the balance of power in a relationship shifts toward one of shared responsibility, that encourages growth in people and strengthens the bond. Just my two cents.

If you notice the song that ellie put in the radio, was the song that Bill sing when he first met Frank.

In the game, Ellie found some gay porn magazines in Bill's home and Bill also called Frank his "partner". But we had no backstory to Bill or Frank in the game and it gave the producers freedom to sort of make up whatever they wanted to ☺️ I cried a lot during this lol

i like the change they did to bill’s story

@StruckByBelz, @16:12 This might have already been pointed out by now, but in the event that it wasn't, Bill and Frank's story was told in the game and it was pretty clear that they were a couple. That said, there story in the game IS quite different than this one. Their story in the game is tragic and ends in disaster, but not in the HBO version of the story. I think this version is so much better and fulfilling, personally. 16:52 I don't think it's just the song, but the entire day. Frank asked for something to eat, and Bill went out of his way to be very, very hospitable. Bill let Frank shower for as long as he wanted, gave him a brand new pair of clothes and then served him a 3 star Michelin lunch with a glass of fine wine--who does that! Frank would have been happy to get just a sandwich! Bill didn't stop there, he broke out the fine china and silverware too! Bill toss his hair to the side didn't go unnoticed by Frank either. Bill was an unhappy man who wasn't accepted in society; hence, his survivalist nature. We can see that he came from a well off family and was given the best life--my man is an every man who can fix an entire town, fortify it, maintain automobiles and machinery for 20 years, is good with PCs, plays the piano and sings well and cooks like a pro! The only thing Bill does know how to do is live because all his life he's been trying to survive in a world and atmosphere his parents raised him. Sure, the US has come a long way with equality for gay couples, but that's recent, not 2003 recent, and things are still pretty rough for that community now. Imagine how hard it was for this closeted man in his 50s. Frank, obviously, had a very different life from Bill's; he was free to be who he was. And it looks like he knew who Bill was before Bill did, and Linda Ronstadt's song helped as it helped channel Bill's true feelings, which he kept tightly guarded up to this point. 18:36 Yes, and no. Do you recall Frank looking Bill's home over while Bill cooked? Frank noticed that Bill wasn't taking care of his home. Bill doesn't care about these things. He cares about having a home, but dusting and the like are not essential to survival. Frank doesn't just want to survive, he wants to live! Bill won't cut his grass, trim the bushes or prune his trees. He won't even put a new coat of paint on the place! Frank wants them to enjoy the comforts Bill is able to provide them. It's been three years, and the two of them are living lives people everywhere elsewhere would kill for. Unlike everyone else in the world that constantly wonders where they're going to sleep that night or where their next meal is going to come from or if they'd be okay in the hours to come, Bill and Frank knew the answers to these questions. Bill was never not safe. He was safe from the start of all this to the end. Frank lived in the hell that befell the world for four years--he knew what he had lost, and he was shocked to see that Bill still had these things, and I think it saddened him to see that Bill let these simple comforts go, but also realized that Bill never really had the chance to live either, so of course he wouldn't know what he was missing out on, which is why I think Frank wanted him to experience living, as he had; it's one of the few things Frank can give Bill. How to live and how to love were things Bill never learned until now. 23:03 That's got to be hard for someone society shunned--Bill would have been a Trumper--he has a "don't tread of me flag" in his basement and he was into conspiracies theories. We saw how he was around Joel and Tess; he's not sociable. His argument with Frank about resource management is another reason why Bill wasn't open to that. Bill didn't take on more than he could handle. He built a fortress that would sustain him for the rest of his life. Yes, he let Bill in, but he wasn't moving beyond that. Had he let others in, different opinions would have been the end of his home, I imagine and food would have been an issue, as someone would surely abuse the comfort Bill's fortress gave them. People would gradually stop eating to survive and start eating for pleasure and start indulging in that supply of food. You know Bill cataloged everything and made meals that would not jeopardize their supplies during terrible seasons and winter. A town full of people would have been too much for him to manage. 24:51 Craig Mazin, the co-creator of this series, said that they didn't actually decide on a decease for Frank, but he did confirm that Frank either suffers from MS or ALS ='( The guy who was fit and healthy for much of this story is the guy hurting late in life, damn. 33:33 I don't disagree, but when you consider EVERYONE else in this new world, this is a happy love story that ended on their terms, so it is a happy ending. Bill's fortress never fell. He and Frank lived a full and satisfying life together, something very few couples in this world can say. 36:24 No they didn't, but the dust and food on the table would suggest that not a lot of time passed. Their bodies would still be in the process of decomposing, the early stages. This was a great story, one that'll likely shape how this story ends. I can't wait for the next one! Another fine reaction =]

They did convey things differently in the show but the game always had a frank and bill partnership established and to be frank no pun intended in the game bill was just so bitter and grumpy all the time i like this approach more.

About a week ago, the original voice actress for Tess in the TLOU game passed away. Annie Wersching lost to cancer at the age of 45. RIP to her and condolences to her family.

I hadn't picked up on him sitting closer to him at the table🥺 the symbolism of Bill literally getting close to someone as he spent most of his life distancing himself😢😭

Also, one more thing about their dynamic, which I thing is the main theme of this episode, is "quantity of life vs quality of live". Bill wanted to survive another day while Frank wanted to fill with life however many days they get. That's why the strawberries scene is so important. Frank exchanged something that would help them survive longer for something that was essentially a luxury, and that's the moment bill finally gets it.

What’s crazy about this episode is how everyone thinks it’s one of the saddest episodes of a show and the creator of the game and show said that this was the happy episode 😂😂

Last episode was pretty cool we had tess die lmaooo🤣

I just realized where I’ve heard this song (theme) and it’s from Arrival and that movie has a huge emotional thing as well, everything about this episode is great

It's especially sad because frank didn't really have a choice, it was either continue to suffer or die and, in a world, where most people won't ever live this long and so comfortable getting to choose how you go out is a luxury most can't afford.

16:18 I mean…yeah, Bill is gay in the game .-. they just never explored it till now. it was cute they gave him a better ending too! sad yet phenomenal episode all around

Bill in the game was gay. We find that out through hints and breadcrumbs, but We never saw frank in the game until they stumble upon his dead body before finding the truck battery. They changed the backstory up a bit though, which I think is better than what they did in the game, but his characters purpose stayed the same. Bill was just a side character to help Joel and Ellie get a truck and battery and to teach Joel a moral lesson on how not to be(in the game) and how to be(in the show). Also this was 2003 before gay marriage and all that was a thing and before meeting frank, he could never be himself, he was most likely a loner before the apocalypse too spending most of his time in his bunker prepping and hoping the world would end someday. Then he realized his greater purpose after meeting frank. To protect, just like Joel.

I hardly ever cry in real life situations, watching series and movies, or reading books, but this episode really broke me. I was sobbing during the entire last day of Frank and Bill. In fact, I am still crying an hour after watching it. Never in a million years, I would have imagine that the love story of two gay men would touch my heart in such a way.

Sarah, Tess, Frank and Bill..... I love The last of us....

My gaydar went off as soon as Bill flicked his hair back

much of this we didnt see in the game. we only learned the story of BIll and Frank via letters we found in the environment. they also changed alot. In game we meet Bill, and he helps us fight and get a car. We encounter Frank, but he has hung himself (suicide) after getting bit, only leaving Bill with a letter. Bill explains to Joel that Frank was his "partner", so we knew Bill and Frank was a couple. I think the change they made for television was masterfully done. Bill was always into men. funny how he found his purpose in a post apocalypse : ) which i like, that they show us that its possible to thrive and live in such times. B and F really were the ones that made it.

Take a shot everytime my boy say basically at the beginning of the video! Now call a Uber home because ain’t no way you in driving form Lmfao

Maybe someone answered you already but they died a couple days to a couple weeks before Joel and Ellie left Boston. After Joel, Tess and Ellie left the QZ an 80s song started playing over the radio. So a couple weeks after the last reset.

For what it's worth, I don't think Frank was "giving up" when he asked for the pills at the end. Rather, he was just accepting that there were no longer doctors around to treat his steadily-worsening illness (probably cancer or MS, given his joke about MRIs and mentioning it's incurable). And so he decided he would rather go out on his own terms, while he was still awake enough and functional enough to fully enjoy his final day with Bill. Nothing hopeless or defeated about it - just realistic and pragmatic, given the world that they're living in.

My stupid ass would of licked the spoon I mixed the pills and wine with before I even thought about it. 💀

The song played on the radio at the end was the same one bill and frank played on the piano at the start. The way I understood the piano scene was Frank said “I know” because he could tell that Bill was gay, like Bill was saying the song wasn’t about a girl for him, and I think there was subtle emphasis on the “girl” and that’s why Frank made an advance. Then the bedroom scene Bill says he had done it before with a girl, I think he’s recalling back to a time before he knew he preferred boys.

The song that played at the end of episode 1 was from the 80s. The system had to be reset every 3 weeks. So from the time Bill and Frank died until Joel and Ellie arrived, was about 3-4 weeks.

I have been itching for this reaction like an addict. MY GAWD! This episode emotionally broke me . Jesus I wasn't expecting this storyline expansion but my goodness wasn't it beautiful? I am not really into goo goo gaga moments of expression. I sat here for over an hour sobbing and snotting up the place. Incredible performance, score, humor well everything. The setting and stage was set and I couldn't get enough of Bill and Frank. That ending though gave me HOPE. I needed that and so did Joel!

Don't know if you noticed but the last meal that they shared was the same as the first one when they met.

The song at the end was the same song Bill and Frank played on the piano

My childhood wasn't boring, plus i always had the mad scientist in me. I had to settle for engineering oh well.

To try to answer your question if the actors have played the game is no for the main characters. I don't know if the actor that plays Tommy has or not. The Actor that plays and did the voice acting in the game for Marlene I don't know if she played all of the game but I have seen her play a little bit in a youtube video where Troy Baker the voice actor for Joel plays the game and gets the voice actors in each episode to talk about doing the cut scenes and shows footage of them acting the cut scenes.

i remembered only bill on the game part 1, he has a bunker there and a car

i love it when you say interesting knowing theres gonna be a hot take lmao

At the end of the day, even on an apocalypse LOVE WINS!

In the game u find bill he helps u get a truck and battery and u find Frank's body hanging and letter he left and bill hints at frank and having a thing and in the show bill and frank died 2 weeks before tess died

The way I read that scene is that bill was always gay but that he had sex with a girl a long time ago when he was like a teenager or something and then just had never really acted on his being gay. I know that was my phone personal experience of queerness

@28:30 -- despite all his prep, bill still had a big hole in his life. frank filled it.

I like Ellie too. After your crying this episode. She is to the rescue to be happy again.

FYI the writers/creator said in the companion podcast. They never gave Frank an illness. They left it up to the audience to decide and focus on the love instead of the one thing killing him.

This was in the game!

Bills Town is located where my girlfriend lives, the mountains and forests were all filmed where I live :) Alberta is more beautiful than people think!

It's probably been a few weeks since Bill and Frank died till Joel and Ellie arriving. They died in summer and it's Fall time when they arrived

The natural gas plant was a power plant. Natural gas powers most of my city Las Vegas.

In the game you only know about Frank for the notes he left, and Bill appears just some minutes in the game and no more.

This episode was great I liked the change up. Frank and Bull that kinda made me get dust in my eyes

Depeche mode never let you down

They were together in the game, but they fell out and Frank got bit and hung himself right before Joel and Ellie show up.

I don’t think it was that Frank just wanted it to end. I think he just wanted to go out with some dignity on his own terms before the disease just wasted him away.

fun fact the voice actors of the clickers in the show are the same as in the game

Bill was a genius I would be more like Joel in the pandemic.

They were both gay in the game already, but the difference is in the game, Bill didn't give in to Frank's will to not just survive, but live. So, in the game, they end up resenting each other, hating each other and finally breaking up, Frank tried to leave the city but didn't get far before being bitten and hanging himself to avoid turning. Bill still resents and hates Frank when you found his old partner's corpse, and there's a letter next to it, the corpse is indeed Frank; and the letter's content shows Frank was still mad at Bill too. As to why Bill slept with a girl once : many gay people live in families where it's shamed upon, so they kinda convince themselves they're straight, with more or less success, but if you're not into women, well, you're not, you can't fake it forever, so those relationships rarely last long. The fate Bill and Frank have in the tv show is sooo much better than the break up and Frank dying that we have in the game... The only loss is the funny banter between Bill and Ellie that we don't get here... but the game is still there for that ! Cause basically Bill shows Joel in the game "that's how you end up if you close yourself to feeling anything", which Joel is doing. In the show, the message is different but achieving the same goal : "look what can happen if you allow yourself to feel something again". Which starts to shift something in Joel regarding his view of Ellie in both the tv show and the game. Then, after all that, in both cases they leave Lincoln (that city) in a car, listening to music.

I like when you say ellie is crazy..... you have no idea 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well actually never show any romantic relantionship in the game mostly because the first time we see frank he hung hymself.But Bill always refering to him like his partner but he never showed any signal of love towards him, rather more than anything, anger because he took his equipament because frank no longer tolerated his bitter attitude and leave him alone. If they were in a romatic relatioship leave it to your discretion

16:22 - Bill's homosexuality is in fact made clear in the game

It's funny watching straight people fail to notice when Frank clocks Bill

This episode was really sad

She is 14 she says how old she is in the tv show

Bill was closeted. He didn’t have a wife.

So basically…. Basically…. Basically

Yes, this was in the game. Well, Bill was in the game and he was gay in the game. (Playgirl Magazine, not Playboy Magazine, remember.) Bill says Frank was his partner.

Básicamente xd

Do you guys have a talking parrot? xD

Natural gas plant A gas-fired power plant or gas-fired power station or natural gas power plant is a thermal power station which burns natural gas to generate electricity. Natural gas power stations generate almost a quarter of world electricity and a significant part of global greenhouse gas emissions and thus climate change.

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They told the girl who plays Ellie not to play the video game, so no she did not.

Seeing Bill and Frank's story wasn't in the game. But the game gave clear indication that Bill was gay, and that Frank was his "partner". The game's writing and acting did a great job of showing rather than telling, so there was never going to be clunky or clingy dialogue where Bill told Joel he was gay or anything like that.

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Although the love was never shown in the game, all the hints were there that Bill was gay. And Bill is bitter in the game because Frank left him because of Bills fears and paranoia. We only ever meet Frank's feet in the game.

The idea that being in a relationship can give someone something to be afraid of, only makes being single, that much more appealing.

Wife? I don't think Bill had a wife. In the game Bill was gay.

Who the hell is Jordan Peterson?

I was thinking while watching this "it's impossible to keep being a homophobe after watching something as beautiful as this". But judging by the things I read the next day, turns out I was wrong. If someone can't see past the fact that these are two men to appreciate the beauty of their love, then all hope is lost for them. And part of me feels pity for those people, and another part of me wants every movie and tv show to have gay couples just so they can't watch anything ever again. I'm all out of sympathy.

is it difficult to be normal?

I know so many people are still moronically h0m0ph0bic nowadays and can’t understand why they’d introduced two gay characters into a backstory that has ‘nothing to do with the game” but those same people also fail to understand how even if there was an apocalypse GAY PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE PART OF IT REGARDLESS and not to mention just as much as people complain about homosexual scenes I can do just as much and MORE complaining about boring heterosexual scenes so idk why this episode got so much hate. However, THANK YOU GUYS for being so open as USUAL and to share some more light and personal opinion, I really loved how this episode focused on an emotional love story between two OLDER GAY men which we don not see much depiction of as much as younger generations of LGBTQ+ rep when it comes to television. So, this was a TYPE of divine love story we do not get to see much as. I loved this episode and I’m gonna keep defending it by every thread on my sweater. Thanks for reacting to it and not being so biased or hateful because truly it’s astonishing how people think we’re supposed to care if they "dropped this show' after ONE episode displaying affection and compassion between two people in an apocalypse for crying out loud. It was a MOVING story of showing how not everything in an apocalypse show has to be so intense ALL THE TIME because there are some people who WILL and HAVE lived their last days only loving each other away from everyone else bc no one else matters at that moment. 🏳‍🌈✨

They were always gay Bill was closeted. Additionally they were gay in the game but they never went into detail about their love. The entire love story was different than what transpired in the game.

Gay couples always be dying on shows and movies. They can never catch a break smh.

Did she just suggest that they are having gay sex cause they lonely in an apocalypse and not cause they are truly just f gay?? Bruh

I couldn’t with the beard and beard kissing just giving my opinion and being honest

No no no i wanted the Joel Ellie and Bill action going house to house wasting mutants left and right and then finally the High School fight against the huge fungus monster!and i got this instead! Lamest episode i have ever watched

She can learn to stop making random noises. How about you actually pay attention to the show to and stop asking questions that were answered already

Episode was aight but this shit is getting overhyped praise everywhere to where it’s kinda annoying. I honestly thought it was the worst episode of the season so far and we’re only 3 episodes in. Pls don’t think I’m shitting on the episode, it was good but not to the levels I’ve been constantly reading about online. Without going there, we all know the real reason it’s getting so much love.

Yakssss 🤢🤮

This side story needed be integrated into the zombie shit. Not just put into a single episide unrealated to anything going on. There was no segway. It was out of nowhere and grinded the story to a halt. Bring them into the storyline properly , let them bloom then kill them off later instead.

One hour wasted on a pointless sidestory about characters who have no significance moving forward

I loved this episode, but it's so heartbreaking hearing people say Frank looks like Jordan Peterson, because I can see the resemblance but Peterson is a terrible, pathetic shitty person and I don't like seeing Frank ruined by him.

Propaganda LGBTI tipico de HBO WOKE!!!🤡🤡🤢