That has got to be the smartest yagi design I have ever seen. I worry about the center support screwing up the signal because it too is made of metal, but you completely eliminated that. Well done.
Yes, a closed dipole. That's 300 ohm impedance. Required is 50. You need a balun to fix that or use an open dipole. This will work but can be a LOT better. Also the length of the inner copper wire of the coax is way too long and bending it to fit, that's fatal on such high frequencies.
Sorry guys but I want to clarify something. The input inpedance depends in the whole system. The reflector and the first two directors have a huge weight in the input inpedance. Of course if que replace the folded driven for an open one, the impedance goes lower, but we need a field simulation to estimate how much it is or just measure it with a VNA
Hi Andrew and excellent work. Without the exact dimensions of the YAGI elements and the spacing between them the information in the Templates is useless because different Printers will produce a different image. Grateful if you could supply the exact dimensions. Thanks Andreas
The folded dipole antenna has a theoretical impedance of 300 ohm so if the coax is 50 ohm, you are not getting a proper match and hence best signal. If I were building this antenna, I would've stuck with the foil for the driven element, with the split in the middle the impedance is closer to 50 ohm.
Great project Mr. Andrew, i'm beginner in this, i have built this antenna following your instructions and it works really good, i pick up lot of APs, but i was wondering how is the diameter of the copper wire element affecting the antenna? i didn't had the one you used (1,25mm if i'm not mistaken), i had smaller one(1mm) and bigger one(1,75mm), i have chosen smaller one in my antenna, but i'm not sure what difference it makes.Thanks!
Thank you very much for these videos. I just have one question before I start building my own antenna, what is the strongest antenna you have ever built ? and can I find a tutorial on how you made it on you channel ? Thank you very much,
hi Chris when i build antennas for 2.4ghz i make then tuned to the centre of the wifi spectrum channel 6 2.437. The difference between 2410 to 2510 is around 0.5mm. The yagi is a good choice if you are using in an area with a lot of interference but the helical antenna works better with video and can cut through obstacles like trees much better. a good setup would be, cloverleaf on plane TX helical on ground RX. hope this helps
Andrew I know this video is 9 years old and I'm not sure if you answer questions from this far back. Anyway my question is with this perspex/copper foil style yagi do you need to connect a balun. I've seen you fixing baluns on production yagi's but not connecting them to your own. I it necessary and If I wanted to connect a balun would you have link how to do it. Regards Sam
Great videos, I have 1 question, i noticed you left out the last element, my plastic only measures 60cm is it ok if i miss off the last 2 elements? it would end up as a 18 Element Yagi.
Hi Andrew, Question. From the end reflector to the Alfa card, what length should the max distance be for the coax cable. Is their any? or would it start to have loses in performance due to the length.. Would it be possible to have a cable length of 3 - 5 meters? Loving the videos, Cheers.
Very nice Andrew, I would have made the dipole with a much smaller gap between the top and bottom. Did you try a 4:1 balun? I'm guessing you tried it both ways and found no difference?
Andrew great video again, i'm not to sure if your still replying to your videos but regarding a balun, as it is a folded dipole, 1:4 or 4:4 or any other required? Regards
I saw a lot of prototypes of antennas for Wifi. Yagi with square profiles, cantennas, yagi with circular profiles... What is the best one ever? Therefore if I want to connect my garage that is 100 m from my home shall I use a antenna only in my garage or I need an antenna at home pointed to my garage?
hi, is the drainpipe compulsory for this antenna? or I can use any shape of can to cover the yagi antenna? the cantenna should be plastic instead of metal?
Andrew, shouldn't there be a balun to transform the impediance of the dipole. Which is probably around 200-300Ohms. Would the model/design also work with a open dipole concept. Tnx in advance.
Super video thank you, just built one and having fun. Please could you clarify, you say the block of wood is 5mm earlier in the thread, the wood looks thicker, did you mean 15mm? Keep up the great vids, kind regards
Loved the video! thumbs up!! I saw lots of rp-sma male connectors with various cables to use for ex: RG58, RG174, RG316... I was wondering which cable should i use?
As someone said, what do you think about a balun? I did a bit of reading on impedance and it seems like the folded dipole in the yagi has 200-300 ohms of impedance, while we need 50. Am I wrong?
I made one like your first yagi. Is there any performance increase with a metal container around your plastic. Maybe it provides a more directorial wave? I plan to slide my plastic into a plank of wood to keep the plastic straight. This will be my platform for my repeater as well
Good friend just hit live and screened in the dipole, one on one side and the other on the other side more, I can make this dish with other issues I've seen pictures of the antenna with 4: 1 balun¿ is right? which of this two methods is better balun or just stick with the living and the mesh in the dipole directly?
Hi, would it interfere with the signal if I put a metal clamp around the pipe? I want to place it on my roof and fixing it to something really well is kind of a necessity
Of course it helps Andrew, thanks much, I will get the material for the helical and cloverleaf. I have need of a high gain Wfi also as it turns out. Too bad it takes so long for the delivery. Live in the rural zone. And even in the town of 300,000 there is no electronics supply. TskTsk... Regards, C
Thank You Mr. McNeil for a great video! Quick question: Is the width of the metal tape important? I know the spacing is critical but, How about the width of the actual elements? Many Thanks in advance!
+inthefreytoo I don't think it's really important, they shouldn't be to big AFAIK. Some people use metal wire instead of the copper tapes, so it should be fine
Andrew - I am making this antenna to use with 2.4ghz wireless transmitter/receiver for transmission of video signal to a capture card. For this application, I believe that I have an impedance of either 50 or 75 ohms. Would I need to use a balun with this? I am going to attach using RG316 and RP SMA connectors directly to the transmitter and receiver. Thanks for your help. Also, where do I find instructions on the balun if one is required?
What is a good piece of software to use to tweak the dipole, and for aiming purposes? The software that comes with my alfa adapter is much to slow updating me signal strength changes.
Thank you for your ongoing enthusiasm and excellent videos. Have other people has success building this antenna to the printed PDF template? I have printed without scaling the document and built the antenna carefully, used a 5mm spacer block and 18SWG copper wire. I have seen that Andrew's works really well. My antenna exhibits not gain over a simple dipole and no directional properties. I began to doubt that my copper tape which had 0.5 ohm resistance across the elements so tinned the elements with no effect. Any suggestions?
Kevin Nicholls I did build one myself and it wouldn't work... Tried to build the active element using the dimensions given in the comments, no luck. Changed the dimensions to be 1.5 wavelength, didn't work. The best results I got was using a length of 130mm that I've found on a website with similar design, but still way worse than my laptop built-in antenna.
I am truly greatful for your many videos. I Don't know the sequences of the videos though so I have a question on the 20 element Yagi in-a-can ... In one of your videos you mentioned that the yagi performance drops off after x number of elements ... bigger is not better ... but maybe that comment was meant for your Biquad Yagi ... I don't recall ... Just a thought I want to clarify and keep in mind as I absorb your information ...
Is there a way to attach the directed element to a single contact point? I need to hook it up to a MMDS LNB downconverter for a project, and the connection to the downconverter is one contact point, not a coaxial connector. I actually had to unsolder an integrated dipole from the downconverter, so I'm hoping to attach the yagi to the contact point where the original dipole was soldered. Thanks in advance!
Hey andrew!! I have a TP link wn722n it has an external antenna and I have made a Yagi antenna in college, I was wondering will it work with my TP Link WiFi adapter, and where can I buy a sma connecter.
I'm at McDOnalds using THEIR WI-FI, as I don't have any at my home. Having already constructed an HDTV antrenna and a dipole for FM reception, this is all that's left. I just downloaded your template, but will be unable to view your construction video from home.... hence the need. Is there a downloadable video someplace, or a written account. Something I can download and use later? RU-vid wont allow that, as we know. Id appreciate any MORE help you can provide, though you've already done so much. THANKS!!
hello sir i had a question how make usb adapter from old laptop wifi card because here in my country alpha wifi card is so expinsive and the wifi card easy find in scarp plz reply
I made this to pick up a 2.4 ghz wireless security camera signal I have 800 ft away.... it did not work. I saw comments about a balun needed. is that true?
I watched your previous videos and made a biquad antenna it works perfectly but yagi doesnt. where did i do wrong? is there a special size for the cooer wire element? While you were curling the copper you used a wedge. How many cm is it? I used 1.5 cm. I expect your help. With my regards...
Hi Andrew. Love your work it really inspiring. I want to know if the cantenna get catch Wi-Fi signal that is 300 metres away from my house. Can the cantenna be used as a Wi-Fi signal repeater. Thanks
yes it can I use one of these ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_pqPLTsx-s8.html with a cantenna to get wifi in my workshop. It is about 200 m away but has to go through 3 brick walls.
Does it make any difference what the diameter of the "can" is? Can I use this Yagi template in a 80mm diameter "can"? Or will it make the antenna worse?
Andrew, in your experience, what would you consider to be the best physical length to radio signal ratio in a Yagi antenna: where the length added doesn't justify dbi gain.
A 10 to 12 element Yagi is a good practical size. I will be releasing my biquad Yagi in the new year. It is a 6 element antenna and is more powerful than an 18 element Yagi! Andrew.
andrew mcneil so I know these videos are a few yrs old but I noticed a lot of people are saying they can't get it to work? Any tips for cutting tape to right diameter? Also what is the best antenna to start with if your just getting into building antenna? I'm working on this one and the copper Clad yagi made with coat hangers except I'm using copper wire..
+andrew mcneil Can you please post the dimensions for the 8 Element Yagui and this one.... many of us print in different world sizes. so no dimensions no working yagi
Any chance you could post the dimension of the reflector to the last element- I just want to make sure that I have the printed template dimensions abs correct before I build one - thanks- excellent videos!
When I print the pages of your template PDF's the ends get cut off by my printer. Can you list the measurement of the individual elements as I see many people asking you to do please?
andrew when i print it off the first one is in landscape and the last 2 are in portraits the video shows them all in landscape and mine doesn't get squat for signal im gonna flip those 2 pages and see can you send me some dimensions thanks
That is very interesting not sold on the max gain 16dBi for the quad though. I may just make it and let you know as i am picking up a network analyzer this weekend. As for next video me and my youngest son made a classic arcade cabinet over the weekend. As for antennas a friend has asked if I will make him a 5GHz helical and clover for his new FPV setup.
so what's the distance between each element? I'm getting angry trying to make one and I can't find element diagram. I don't have printer either. I just need a list of mesuarments
Would it be better to connect the yagi straight to the alpha and outdoor proof it then run a long usb cable to computer or just run a long lmr cable to the yagi?
Andrew, I have a great application for this Yagi, I have all the parts for it and am busy getting her together. I just wanted to tell you that I wanted to replace the patch antenna that the internet provider in this rural area would normally put on the peak of your roof pointed at some farmer's grain silo where they have there WLAN array. I was wondering how much better gain this YAGI would have than the standard patch they would put up. We first declined service because only 1 megbyte per sec
Does this cover the frquencies around the center that would comprise "channels" on a 2.4 Ghz Rx in the RC modelling in the persuit of FPV (First Person View) There happens to be some 8 channels comprising for instance 2410-2430-2450-2470-2370-2390-2490-2510 for one Tx/Rx pair in particular. Would this Yagi be good for all or lend itself to some? BTW I see we are Google+ buddies there mate !
Could you use 3mm plyboard sheet instead of the perspex? It is MORE RIGID & offers good insulation from the radiation generated. It is also cheaper & more available!
It seems to be possible as demonstrated at the end of this video, but no idea how well it works: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Nk-nj_BwoBE.html
Guys I was reading all the comments and no-one mentioned distance.... What Is the range of this antenna??? I have some open wifi around me and wandering if this can make it through 900 to 1000 meters? Does it???
Andrew - in your video, when you reach the assembly of the driven element, you use a block of wood to measure the depth of the element. You did not specify the measurements of the block of wood; you simply called it "your block of wood." Would you please elaborate on this? Is this measurement important?
The driven element he uses is a folded dipole. So just make the calculations for a folded dipole at 2.4 ghz. I haven't played around with folded dipoles yet, so I don't know how critical spacing is. But there is plenty of info on the internet regarding folded dipoles. Also, you don't need to use a folded dipole for the driven element. I recently made a 3 element yagi for the 2 meter ham band. My driven element is just a dipole.
andrew mcneil what was the thickness of the plastic? It would then be 5mm plus the thickness of the plastic times 2 for the spacing in between the folded dipole ??
Awesome! I've been seeing clover antennas all over for FPV, and just saw you you made a 2.4GHz version. Wonder what the performance would be in a can though.
I built one but not the same design, I used a round PVC tube (15mm diameter) and used copper wire elements and a folded dipole driven element. It worked out nicely where it all fit well in a PVC protection tube I found. I lucked out with that one I guess...
I've just finished putting together the wood version. I placed the metallic tape directly on the paper, and stuck the paper to a block of wood. Looking forward to giving it a test.
I'be built 2 types for this so far, one shorter (less elements) and a longer one (more elements) and getting pretty good results but I found that having 2 together (combined) with both polarities (H & V), results are obviously way better, something to think about...
Andrew very interesting video, I would like to make one of these to see if I can get better distance out of some of our video equipment. Can you please direct me to the link for the template?
thanks for the video Andrew Mcneil love all of your videos that I've watch so far educational wanted to ask a question but it would be great if it was by email
I'm looking at building this but in your opinion what is the greatest ant for far away wifi networks? I want the greatest distance possible .. Thanks bud
Can you pass along the measurements of each element and spacing and also offer where the calculations came from. I built it using the template with poor results. I also built another version I think 19 elements using copper wire for the elements based on another site which worked much better. I also noticed the spacing and size of elements where different that's why I want the measurements to compare against the template. Its possible the other one I built that works better might have been for a slightly different frequency, 2400 vs. 2450. Funny, the site using the yagi calculator(vk5dj) gives me different measurements too. I have been playing with several of these antennas including the $10 junk yagi you can buy on ebay. The best antenna so far is a antenna that has a can shaped with a metal rod containing several round discs going out about a meter. This antenna was used for the MDS band. I do have a commercial 1 meter dish that beats them all. I wanted a good yagi for portable use. Last week using a 11dBi patch/panel antenna from Pt. Judith, RI to Newport, RI line of site (9.2 miles) I had made a voice direct contact using a program called IP-Sound Ken
Luis Miguel Mendoza It wasn't a video its just antenna I had from years ago used for the same frequency range. www.wlan.org.uk/antenna-page.html scroll down to the Prude University Project and you will see a picture of an antenna that is very similar to it Ken