Long Travel Suspension Guide - Parts, Mods & Cost - Camburg Tundra Long Travel Off-Road

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Interested in Long Travel Suspension but don't know where to start? In this video we use a Camburg Race Series Long Travel Suspension kit as an example to show some of the major components and mods you will need to consider to upgrade to long travel. Full Long Travel Suspension walk-through.
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@OutdoorAuto Год назад

If you need info on more basic suspension upgrades check out this video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ws6DX-cV_xw.html

@codychilders8307 Год назад

Glad you're uploading again

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Thanks for the support… trying to upload every Sunday… but also setting up the new shop… but I’ll get there. This weeks video is a good one…

@AROD. Год назад

Man you need some spindle gussets

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Tell me more?

@AROD. Год назад

@@OutdoorAuto most companies sell some weld on spindle gussets to reinforce our stock spindles on the tundra I got mine from dirt king like $70 for the pair

@lcstay10 Год назад

Love the build. Your 35” vid was a huge help getting my truck set up, especially with wheel offsets. Best tundra content on RU-vid

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Awesome... Glad the video was helpful. I have more Tundra videos coming.

@flyfisher530 Год назад

Nice video Nathan! Man you have put that suspension through some miles! Very cool video on how it has performed! 👍

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Thanks... Yeah... that system has been abused... pretty excited to pull it all off, clean it up and put it all back on looking new.

@eprohoda Год назад

good morning!that is professionla travel, catch you later,dear!

@roberthanna5497 Год назад

Another great video with good info, keep it up!!

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Thanks Robert, hope it was helpful in some way… more on the way.

@TinkerersAdventure Год назад

Great video! This is a very complete setup done right. High speed stuff really adds a lot of cost.

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

High Speed = Cost and Maintenance for sure... but if you actually use it, there is no substitute.

@robp418 Год назад

This channel is super underrated. Getting ready to go long-travel on my 01 gmc and videos like these help keep me inspired. Keep pushing out quality content!

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Thanks 🙏 you have no idea how much that means to me. Good luck on your build.

@jamesstein5952 Год назад

Very well done appreciate your knowledge. Been watching you for a while. Mine a Tundra rigged for mild - slight difficult off roading. Icon is my suspension. keep sharing your knowledge again Tks

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Thanks James, I am working on several more videos for Tundras so keep an eye out. Thanks for the support.

@fullmag_tundra Год назад

Excellent video! I loved your point at the end with the new tundras, I’m currently trying to build out my gen 3 to be one of the first “luxury prerunners” with the whole LT and fiberglass. Admittedly there isn’t a lot of kits to go around right now but I’m excited to see what these companies start coming out with here soon. Camburg already teased their CAD renders of their front LT kit and it looks insane. Can’t wait to see what Dirt King, Total Chaos, and LSK have in store!

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

I am guessing both Camburg and Dirt kings probably have options soon.

@kmaamk1620 11 месяцев назад

I been binging your videos lately I love your format and structure of videos. Everything laid out upfront then get into it. Very organized and clean with honest experience. Ty

@OutdoorAuto 11 месяцев назад

Wow, thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching... I will try to keep using the format where everything is laid out upfront.... never had someone call that out... but that is a good thing for me to continue to prioritize and think about.

@kmaamk1620 11 месяцев назад

Yes! It’s definitely a factor that keeps me watching the whole video(looking forward to what was stated in the beginning). Also your lack of click baity titles makes me feel like I can trust you’re actually talking bout the subject lol. Thank you for the knowledge!

@corbinolsen12 Год назад

Great video! Always wanted a breakdown of the build on that truck.

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

It’s a great truck… now I just need to finish all the maintenance

@SpencerHogg Год назад

Great video man

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Thanks, hopefully it was helpful in some way.

@RockLander818 Год назад

Nice video by the way!!

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

🙏

@mrocco36 10 месяцев назад

very helpful video man thank you

@OutdoorAuto 10 месяцев назад

Awesome, Glad it was helpful.

@anthonyproia5634 Год назад

I’d love to hear you talk about starting a RU-vid channel. What have been your obstacles? Have you been able to quit a day job to focus on RU-vid? Has it been profitable? I have been on the fence about starting a channel for awhile and even got gear… I just don’t know what I’m afraid of or waiting for… great vid btw. I love the way 37s look on tundras. Not sure I could get myself a long travel set up unless I start getting RU-vid money lol

@CaptMaxADV 10 месяцев назад

Damn bro! Excellent! Thanks! 🙌🏻

@OutdoorAuto 10 месяцев назад

i'm going through the full 60K mile service on these right now... if you every have questions feel free to send them in. I keep a close eye on our channel Discord - geni.us/PublicDiscord

@chasedanger9734 4 месяца назад

I have the same camburg kit on my lx570... I snapped the supplied axle shaft 1st trip out. Did really good all day till the last obstacle of coarse... hindsight I'd of just bought the rcv's from get go... save the 600 bucks and much headaches of the cv swap.

@natefoster Год назад

Awesome video, like you said, everything is connected in a build like this, other ancillary costs not called out, fender install/paint, gearing for 37’s, and those fender liners are pretty grumpy to make- the fronts took me a couple long days to do 😂

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

ooooh good point on re-gearing... I should have called that out too. I have 5:29 gears and a LSD in the rear. Fender liners are a pain... i'd honestly just buy them if I could... the guys over at TAV have mastered it... I need to go learn from them.

@OutdoorAuto 11 месяцев назад

I am about to start work on new fender liners.... so not looking forward to it... I swear I would rather rebuild an engine then make fenders...

@zakaroonetwork777 10 месяцев назад

3:39 You Totally Flashed us with your Welder.

@OutdoorAuto 10 месяцев назад

Oh dang... I need to add a eye safety wear warning to the video 😂

@redline870 Год назад

That is a really sweet setup! Dang that’s a lot of money though!

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Thank god I got all on the truck already

@terrarecon Год назад

15:35 I recommend spindle gussets from either Dirt King or Total Chaos versus the complete spindles Camburg sells, as they are asking $2,000, versus $50-$70 for the gussets that are welded onto the existing spindles providing the strength they need when upgrading.

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

great call out... that is actually exactly what I am looking at... got a welder in the shop... the savings... basically pays for the welder 🤷‍♂️

@terrarecon Год назад

@@OutdoorAuto totally. The Camburg spindles are super beefy, but gusseted spindles are plenty good in extreme conditions as well.

@connorellisx Год назад

So you said that the external reservoir is for heat dissipation, and yes this is true it can help with this along with adding shock oil volume. But I felt I could also add that the main purpose of an external resi is that it separates the oil from the nitrogen in the shock externally from the shock itself which prevents aeration of the shock oil. Roughly half of the resi is actually just nitrogen gas!

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Great point... I will have to do some component level deep dives in the future that cover stuff like this.

@SublimeTree 22 дня назад

Thanks again! Great info as always. I was wondering what brand of cv front axles you use?

@OutdoorAuto 22 дня назад

Front Axles are from Camburg

@kilogolfmike8095 10 месяцев назад

Is the ride quality stiff and firm at lower speeds? And I heard others say that without sway bars that they have body roll and swaying on the streets. How did you counteract that?

@mattmccorkle8656 5 месяцев назад

What bed cage kit is that or custom made it? Curious if a tonneau cover can still be installed?

@jdr03272 5 месяцев назад

Does the frame require reinforcement and is there a after market solution for that or straight custom?

@ChookChasersMX Год назад

Wish we could do this in Australia! Our laws would make this kind of setup illegal (unroadworthy) and hence if caught or picked up by police the vehicle would practically be written off (and no insurance) as the difficulty in having an engineer sign off after removal of welded on frames would be close to zero. A system like this is fairly much unobtainable for us as a street/road registered vehicle. For modifications like this in Australia on road registered vehicles we would need engineers to sign off on the build but even then practically all engineers would not sign this off due to the complexity of our laws and testing requirements. 😢

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Sounds like its time for Australia to get some laws changed 😳 - You guys practically invented Overlanding... gotta protect that heritage.

@k53847 Год назад

@@OutdoorAuto You apparently need an engineer signoff to go to larger tires, so 37s and up are not common except on dedicated off-road vehicles that you trailer on road.

@MarketAndChurch 11 месяцев назад

I'm so happy I found your channel. How does size and weight factor into what vehicle you look for when looking to do a long travel build? For example, do you look for something long and heavy, like a full-size truck like your Tundra? Or something smaller like a Tacoma or 4Runner?

@OutdoorAuto 11 месяцев назад

This is a great Question. The reality is you can long travel just about anything... in a lot of cases the bigger you go, likely the more expensive it will be. The other big consideration is Power, most people go long travel cause they are interested in Racing (not professionally) but they want to do High Speed Desert and Mtn trails, Sand dunes., FAST..etc. This type of driving is the most fun with a lot of power, especially with Sand... you want a lot of HP. Because of this you will see platforms like the 1st gen Tundra very popular... it is smaller then the full sized Tundra and lighter but it still had V8 engine option that could be Supercharged. Longer wheel bases (not like Ford F350 long, but Tundra and down) actually do very well in high speed long travel because their is more time between the front and rear wheels encountering the same bumps that gives the shocks time to recover. If you look at the Baja 1000 Trophy Trucks - which are basically the most elite level long travel machines in the world - They are typically 1400 HP and they are pretty big... much more similar to a "small" full-size truck. Weight always kills everything... almost every type of build, you should always be targeting to be as lean as possible. Some of the New 2024 Tacomas have longer wheelbases, more powerful engine... so I could see base model Tacomas getting built into Pre-Runners becoming much more popular in the future. Hope that helps.

@MarketAndChurch 11 месяцев назад

@@OutdoorAuto I'm just a beginner but that helps a ton, it's given me a lot of perspectives and a lot to think about. Thank you so much!

@johnnyespinoza6861 9 месяцев назад

Now i just need the truck

@OutdoorAuto 9 месяцев назад

Good luck 👍… prices are coming down in the V8’s.

@fouUili684 Год назад

Thanks for doing this, I just have 2.5 king shocks on my tundra and it’s still fun but I want more. LT would be fun but the cost is crazy, what do you when all those shocks need rebuilding? Does your truck stay on jack stands or do you have another set to put on?

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

I am actually in the process of this right now... I am timing the shock rebuild at the same time I am doing a big electrical refresh... and I coordinate with the shop I send it to so they are ready for them when they get the shocks to rebuild so they are only out for about 10 - 12 days including two way shipping.... We will see how it goes... but yes. Truck will be on a lift for almost 2 weeks.

@fouUili684 Год назад

@@OutdoorAuto ok thanks

@RockLander818 Год назад

Love your setup! How would you say the experience in Moab is like with the extra width? I’m gonna be 89” wide after long travel on my Tacoma. Just wondering how the trails will be.

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Moab is pretty easy because the lack of trees. There are trails I wouldn’t do… but Hells revenge, Fins and things and top of the world are all great. I wouldn’t run Prichetts or anything like that 🤷‍♂️

@RockLander818 Год назад

@@OutdoorAuto appreciate you getting back ! That’s on my list haha… Prichett 🙃 just have to see. Again thank you and I remember when you purchased that rig ! Glad it’s HELD UP and served your family well!

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

@@RockLander818 I feel really fortunate… with all the parts it came with it was a killer deal…

@k53847 Год назад

Wow, I though the Thuren King kit for my powerwagon was expensive and a pain to install...

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

I guess the crazy thing about this kit is that, for how comprehensive it is and the travel it gets you.... its actually pretty easy to install.... but definitely not 100% bolt on.

@scottsorensen8490 Год назад

What have you seen is best for rear end leaf spring upgrades? I have a 17’ SR5 CC. I know just a little weight adds a lot of sag/squatting on Tundra’s. I have a Decked drawer system and a shell topper. Just curious about your thoughts that maybe you’ve already experienced

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

I have done a few things with Tundras, if you add a little weight I like Toytec’s Add a leaf kit, Old man Emu had a heavy duty leaf pack called the Dakar springs for the Tundra that was good but has had stock constraints… the best thing to do is weigh your truck at a cat scale with a full tank of gas and fully loaded with your gear and then get a custom Deaver leaf pack made for your weight.

@scottsorensen8490 Год назад

I’ve heard good things about the Deaver leaf kits. Maybe I’ll look at that route. Good call about loading up and checking the weight. Appreciate the advice!

@Thesocialgarage 8 месяцев назад

What front bumper are you running? About to do a very similar build on our Tundra.

@OutdoorAuto 8 месяцев назад

That is the C4. Great bumper.

@CarolinaGamer420 5 месяцев назад

So would it be counter intuitive to have a long travel kit and do overlanding build? Digging into buying a truck that had long travel kit but I want to do overlanding mostly.

@OutdoorAuto 5 месяцев назад

Overlanding a Long Travel build is honestly pretty nice when you are off-road... on the HWY it can be a bit more work and take getting used to because a lot of times you don't have sway bars. You also need to be a lot more conscious of weight and build design... an over weight long travel truck is just a huge waste of money.

@Thesocialgarage 4 месяца назад

What spring rate did you go with (650 or 700)? Are those 14 or 16in coils?

@OutdoorAuto 4 месяца назад

I actually just upgraded the shocks when I did the rebuild on the front end. I’m Running a dual spring coil over. Top spring is 500 lbs, and 4 inches. Lower spring is 800 lbs and 18 inches. This gives me a very plush feeling 3 inches of travel that rates at 307 lbs and then once the Cross Over ring is engaged it steps up to the full 800… so far it is working great… still making adjustments to dial it in.

@MykSr 8 месяцев назад

😎❗️👍

@OutdoorAuto 8 месяцев назад

Almost done going through the whole thing for maintenance... cant wait to get it out in the snow.

@miguelvaldez9449 12 дней назад

Is your steering rack original

@OutdoorAuto 12 дней назад

Yup… never had any issues with it.. the tie rods have extensions to accommodate the longer control arms. But other then that it is stock. The front sway bars are obviously deleted.

@zakaroonetwork777 10 месяцев назад

How do people have / make so much money to dump into there trucks?

@OutdoorAuto 10 месяцев назад

I bought this one after someone put the parts in... honestly that is not a bad way to do it... as long as you can handle the maintenance. Resale market gives almost no value for off-road build items.

@miguelvaldez9449 22 дня назад

What trail is that

@OutdoorAuto 22 дня назад

Most of this footage is from Baja... All over Baja.

@kilogolfmike8095 11 месяцев назад

Is it worth it for 2wd trucks?

@OutdoorAuto 11 месяцев назад

I dont think so... back in the day almost all the prerunners were 2WD so a lot of old timers swear buy it... but if you watch the pros... for example in the Baja 1000.... they abandoned 2WD went to 4WD and then actually went to AWD. It is hard to argue with their results. I don't have a locker... I Just run a Auburn LSD in the rear and leave it in 4-high off-road.... work great.

@jeremiahsk8nsurf174 10 месяцев назад

It is worth it. 4wd cv axles tend to disconnect and limit travel. At the end of the day, you can get through anything with speed and if you have great suspension, you can get through anything. For instance, I have a 2wd w/e locker and power through everything.

@jeremiahsk8nsurf174 10 месяцев назад

Edit: CV can cause issues that limit travel and is another point of potential breaking depending how wide the arms are.

@kilogolfmike8095 10 месяцев назад

@@OutdoorAuto can long travel handle bad roads and pot holes?

@OutdoorAuto 10 месяцев назад

@@kilogolfmike8095 definitely

@jeremiahsk8nsurf174 10 месяцев назад

Couldn’t you get more up travel?

@OutdoorAuto 10 месяцев назад

Not without chopping a lot more stuff 🤷‍♂️

@theboston3386 11 месяцев назад

Brake not break.

@OutdoorAuto 11 месяцев назад

Thanks 😳 - I think I spell something wrong at least every other video... you focus so hard on the nerdy truck stuff it is easy to miss the basics.

@zackwakefield3992 Год назад

How do you spend 5K on a long travel kit and know nothing about it...

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

Huh? What are you talking about?

@nolandavid3563 9 месяцев назад

Just gusset the spindles. Waaaaaaay cheaper

@OutdoorAuto 9 месяцев назад

Ha… I actually have spindle gussets in a drawer right now… only trick is welding that steel on the Cast Spindle…

@robertatkins272 5 месяцев назад

@@OutdoorAutoit’s forged, not cast. Preheat and zip it up with your mig

@MikeJohnson-nj1ry Год назад

When I see a truck with big tires and suspension modification I see a person would knows nothing of physics and economics. Look up opportunity costs. Someday you will retire. All that money you wasted trying to impress people who don't give a damn about you could have made your golden years more golden.

@OutdoorAuto Год назад

In some cases I agree with you... I guess.... but you don't know me. Any kid that grew up in low income housing & on food stamps understands opportunity cost. That's why I started several companies and in building them I learned a lot more about how opportunity cost works. One of my companies happens to be an off-road tour company in Baja... so the truck works pretty well for that, and tax write-offs. But all that aside... trolling RU-vid channels with grumpy comments that tell me more about you, than you know about me... well that is a waste of time, I hope you can finds something that makes you happy, like the adventures I take this truck on with my family.

@MikeJohnson-nj1ry Год назад

@@randomname6710 I own a TRD Tacoma.

@MatthewSeratti Год назад

You're envious and you're trying to rationalize your emotion by placing judgement on another person. That's very emotionally immature.

@MikeJohnson-nj1ry Год назад

@@MatthewSeratti I drive a Tacoma I paid for in cash. Pointing out that the $2400 you spent on suspension, the $1500 you spent on tires, the cost of new rims to raise your center of gravity, decreased gas mileage, nullifying engineering to make your chances of surviving a crash and to decrease braking distance isn't money well spent. Look at statistics. You can drive your truck on 90% of roads without added costs. You are spending a lot for a small gain. This is called cost to benefit.

@MatthewSeratti Год назад

@@MikeJohnson-nj1ry Your emotional intelligence is quite low.