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Looking for the Ruins of Mountain Springs Station & the Old Wagon Roads 

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The mountains between San Diego and Imperial County in California were long considered impassable. Steep mountains and canyons covered in boulders with very few sources of water made direct wagon travel between San Diego and the east impossible. Then in the 1850s, a path began to form. The path wasn't easy going though, and a frequent saying from the time was that "only the courageous or the desperate try to cross the mountains between San Diego and the Colorado river."
With the opening of the wagon road, the portion of the route that descended into Mountain Springs Station became one of the steepest portions of the road. With a water source there, Mountain Springs Station became an important spot for sheepherders after the route was discovered, and by the 1860s a store was located there.
In the 1870s the stone store became a toll house and as the 1900s came around Mountain Springs Station became a water stop for early automobiles. The opening of a new road in 1913, and later Highway 80 and Interstate 8, cut off access to the Mountain Springs Station site, and for the last century it has sat there abandoned, the only visitors arriving on foot of by four-wheel-drive.
For more information on the history of Mountain Springs Station check out Joe Streetman's article for the San Diego History Center: sandiegohistory.org/wp-conten...
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@johnbell877
@johnbell877 10 месяцев назад
"And by discovered, I mean Native Americans who were long aware of the trail told him about it," delivered in a tone as dry as the landscape here. LOL, this is one of the reasons I love your videos Steve.
@travelingtimothy
@travelingtimothy Год назад
You have one of the best RU-vid channels regarding history and old ruins. Keep up the great work!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Thank you, I appreciate it.
@DovieRuthAuthor
@DovieRuthAuthor Год назад
Knowing a bit about sheep, I’m fairly certain that the rock walls were built to keep the livestock from wandering away at night. They would have guardian dogs in there with them to run off the coyotes.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
That's likely it. I'm pretty sure there are mountain lions in the area too. A lone sheep would be an easy meal.
@conniewojahn6445
@conniewojahn6445 Год назад
Keeping sheep together at night does protect them better because the sheepherders can watch the entire flock and notice predators faster than if the sheep were spread out. Yes, I've had sheep, and I've known a few sheepherders in my day. Guardian dogs are a big help.
@Blend-24
@Blend-24 Год назад
Very informative video!! Thanks for posting. A northern route, (also a trail of native americans) used for years and years is a popular 4wd overland trail called “Mojave Road”.
@comontoshi
@comontoshi Год назад
@@SidetrackAdventures “sheep” dogs . . . burros also packed the camp equipment and would kill coyotes . . . the burros were the “guardian dogs” . . . 😎
@louisliu5638
@louisliu5638 Год назад
@@comontoshi love those videos with burros dealing with canines. also Basque sheepherders were being brought over in many USA sheep areas and probably brought guardian dogs with them??? Or Austrians with the Akbash or C. dogs as well. but yeh, coyotes could get those sheep real easy.
@freddymartin6911
@freddymartin6911 Год назад
My great, great grandfather, joseph Swycaffer, drove the mule mail stagechoach between San Deigo and Yuma, AZ. He most likely stopped at the springs to water the mules. He homesteaded in Ballena, 9 miles out of Ramona towards Julian on the Old Julian Highway.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
That's really cool. He would have stopped there for sure.
@SkateClipsAndTips
@SkateClipsAndTips Год назад
Pretty much lived here my whole life and didn't realise how much history is in the mountains
@skydiverclassc2031
@skydiverclassc2031 Год назад
I feel for those horses. 30% grade is no joke when you're towing a stagecoach. I used to live in the mountains up in Northern California and there was a stage road over the pass with the same setup; a ranch in a meadow on each side of the pass where they would hook up some helper horses, or perhaps oxen. Thanks for sharing your little adventure, and drink a toast to the pioneers.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Yeah, that steep of a grade had to be a nightmare in both directions.
@368fan4
@368fan4 Год назад
I actually dove semi big rig NO trailer loaded with K-rail up 18% Grade. No joke .... Scared the hell out of me 1st gear up/down the three thousand foot Mt. Told my Boss will not go back for the pickup,...
@elizabethbogle3533
@elizabethbogle3533 Год назад
Many times those animals died making that hard trip too.
@shawnschneider2842
@shawnschneider2842 Год назад
Loving your background music rather than the older videos. Calming with a bring ya back mindset music kinda in keeping with your videos history theme.
@SpanishEclectic
@SpanishEclectic Год назад
As a long-time San Diego native, this was so neat to see. I've studied a bit about transportation through that area, and out east toward Yuma. Even driving down that 6% grade with semi-trucks behind me is nerve-wracking...there is a reason for that runaway truck ramp. The old stagecoach routes were crazy, though most travel back then was a major challenge. I've been out to the Carizzo Stage station near Ocotillo many years ago. I love learning more about our local history, and really enjoy your 'boots on the ground' videos so I can explore these places secondhand.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Thank you, I appreciate it.
@stevejordan2840
@stevejordan2840 Год назад
I have driven down that grade many times in a truck. Yes it is nerve wracking.
@rickkaylor8554
@rickkaylor8554 Год назад
You always find the coolest places and describe the history so well. Yet another place on my bucket list to visit - but not in the summer.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Oh yeah. I've been waiting for it to cool down to go out here.
@rayworx
@rayworx Год назад
Moved from the SD area in '79 (my family moved from LA to SD in '54 when I was 2 years old) and used to ride our motorcycles out I-80 past Desert Tower. Can't say how many times I climbed the tower for the desert view but enjoyed it every time. I never knew about the 'wagon trail' but can see why it was called impossible! Great video.... like always!!
@uniquetoyz6215
@uniquetoyz6215 3 месяца назад
That’s pretty cool. Thank you Steve for the videos. I share them with my 91 year old uncle. I think his favorite is Mrs Orcuts driveway.
@HansCombee
@HansCombee 3 месяца назад
Nice! Stumbled on this beautiful story of American history. We stood at the exact same spot near the lookout tower when we were passing through on our 2017 holiday in the US. Can't wait for the next visit.
@ourv9603
@ourv9603 Год назад
Back in the bad old days before the ridge route was built the only way to travel from the southland north into the Great Central Valley one had to transverse dozens of canyons to work your way into the valley. Once there, every traveler headed for the Kern river. At the river was a ranch with a kind owner. He always welcomed travelers to stop and pitch a tent. Graze their animals across the road in his field. Bathe in the river & replenish all their water barrels. It didnt take long for this mans kindness was known far & wide. Everyone made a point to stop at his camping field & recoop for the journey ahead. This ranchers name was Baker. And his camping field was known as Bakers Field. !
@jlmplos
@jlmplos 10 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@NYSteve
@NYSteve 4 месяца назад
excellent tour guide, great equipment, great speaking voice, good knowledge and research, thanks again!
@stevewixom9311
@stevewixom9311 5 месяцев назад
A terrific video. I did a little research on the Army Officer that "discovered" the trail. Nathaniel Lyon was stationed near San Diego after the Mexican War. Later, in 1861 he led the Union forces at the Battle of Wilsons Creek, Mo. where he was killed.
@AllyMcFancysp1xn
@AllyMcFancysp1xn 2 месяца назад
Thank you for that. It's always great to have "footnotes" added. Nice!
@TomG-zw9qb
@TomG-zw9qb 3 месяца назад
Oh my gosh...this is the channel we've been looking for dude ! Thanks 😊
@davidmann6034
@davidmann6034 Год назад
Can't get out much anymore, thankful how I can travel with you makes a good Saturday for me KEEP on truckin 👍
@christopherrosing4473
@christopherrosing4473 Год назад
I really enjoyed the drone footage and how it worked so well to illustrate the history. Great video, thanks Steve!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Thank you.
@lorijohnson3620
@lorijohnson3620 Год назад
Loved this video as I own some property at Mountain Springs exit. My grandfather used to run the rock shop at the old water station and saloon. I would love to know more about that area. The spring was grandfathered for us to use. Not the one you showed but there is a smaller one just down the hillside there. It has huge palms but it is now just a seep. We also put in for a historical marker but the rock tower won. They cannot have two historical markers so close to each other so the water filling station and saloon arent mentioned. Knowing that stretch of road there is at least someone that goes over the guardrails about once a month.
@garyharrall4002
@garyharrall4002 6 месяцев назад
I enjoy these videos. So much unknown history in this country. Especially out west. The people on the Interstates have no idea they're passing history. I've been on that highway as a truckdriver and had no idea any if this existed.
@stevejordan2840
@stevejordan2840 Год назад
I driven up that grade on I8 a hundred times and never knew about this. I have seen the signs for Desert Spring but never thought much about it. Good stuff!
@richard1868
@richard1868 Год назад
Great stuff. I'm an 80 year old from Yuma and traveled the old Highway 80 in the 50s and knew nothing about this other historical stuff. Thanks!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it.
@jacquecaeser9078
@jacquecaeser9078 Год назад
Wonderful tale of history. Thank you.
@davidostermann8377
@davidostermann8377 Год назад
Thank You! We were talking about exploring these roads. Now we know what they are all about
@corralescruiser8957
@corralescruiser8957 Год назад
Just found your channel! I'm really enjoying your videos. When I was living in Santee back in the mid 80s I loved taking drives up into the mountains and the deserts. Watching your vids are bringing back memories! Now that I'm retired and in Vegas I have time to come down and explore!
@miguelnavarro2571
@miguelnavarro2571 Год назад
Another great video Steve! Love that you're bringing positive light to our beautiful state with so much bad publicity nowadays
@wanaraz
@wanaraz Год назад
The state is absolutely the finest state in America but the politics is absolutely the worst in America. Whatever bad publicity California gets they have earned it and I am a Californian although I left in 2020. That really broke my heart because democrats have destroyed a great state.
@larrychiea1049
@larrychiea1049 Год назад
I think you are doing an amazing job at recording history. Its awesome to watch. As an archaeologist I love that you research each site. Keep doing it!
@mrfixitman75
@mrfixitman75 11 месяцев назад
THANK YOU! Some of my next trips are planned because of you! Thank you for clean fun and awesome knowledge you are sending out!
@Jbennyho
@Jbennyho 8 месяцев назад
Great history presentation. One of your best. Those sheep herders probably had some good sheep dogs to protect their flocks, slept nearby, and were armed themselves. Thanks for the video. Love the old road history. You went to substantial effort to show us the old routes in person and with drone shots. Great job!
@Lizerator
@Lizerator Год назад
Just found your videos! I have always been intrigued by this area and find this very interesting.
@corycasey
@corycasey Год назад
Local SD native here. Cool video man, keep it up.
@bomax5995
@bomax5995 Год назад
Thank you for the video. Living west of Stockholm we have a "Roadmuseum" where you can see the road built in the late 1900 the 1800 road and the 1700 road built by russian prisoners of war. I can even take a walk on the 1600 road where everything and everyone coming in from the West of sweden had to use. History is facinating.
@littleSallyJo
@littleSallyJo Год назад
I am enjoying your exploration videos so much! Isn't it amazing how many of the original pathways are still visible, thanx to Google Earth and the perseverence of adventurers & explorers like yourself! Great work & thanx for sharing it all with us!!
@justinfleming3551
@justinfleming3551 6 месяцев назад
Yes, I agree and so enjoy these videos too! This man’s videos are the best. I love seeing these remote areas and it makes me want to explore some of them myself. Most of us have no idea how vast our country really is. I got a taste for how huge the land is when I helped move a friend to Tennessee from San Diego, CA and drove the entire 2,000 mile distance in 4 days!!! 😅 We started on the I-8 East and I loved when we reached the mountainous area. As the entire trip took only 4 days, it was a whirlwind journey, but I was fascinated by the geography. I love how the mountains lead to the deserts and how quiet the backcountry is. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. I grew up pretty provincial, but I have the exploration bug in me lol. I want to see new things and places that were abandoned long ago. Somehow it gives me a sense of nostalgia for the long forgotten past. Thank you for your thoughtful comment. 😊
@veetors
@veetors Год назад
I live in Japan now and I love watching your videos showing the desert and it’s history. The area between Jacumba and the S2 is especially beautiful.
@martyjoseph9507
@martyjoseph9507 Год назад
Great videos, everything just flows together and you really know how to show off the topic. I love the original roads and since one can't get to them all, I'll look forward to watching your adventures to places I've been in the past, and places I'll not make it to or never heard of.
@zeroatomfault
@zeroatomfault Год назад
I loved every second of this. San Diego is my favorite SoCal city.
@ChrisW-17
@ChrisW-17 Год назад
Great video Steve! As soon as your video started I wondered if you'd be able to find any structure(s) out there. That area is so forlorn, yet beautiful. Some great behind the scenes info and photos! I apreciate all the research you must do for an adventure like this.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Thank you.
@williamlovely450
@williamlovely450 Год назад
love every thing you do
@joewenzel5142
@joewenzel5142 Год назад
Good job finding it.
@stephenmiller5023
@stephenmiller5023 Год назад
As A San Diego native ( El Cajon for 30 years) and at 62-1/2 yers old now , I myself have traveled all over our “ Back county areas “ but I have yet to hike to where this video was made. There’s a great book on How “ Places got their names “ that I purchased years ago from the old Campo Museum that has some very cool long forgotten ( or at least seldom talked about these days anymore ) history behind them. I have hiked down the “ Lassiter hay Wagon trail “ down backside of Mount Laguna to down by Butterfield stage station “ , visited the Ruins of old John Mc Cain cattle cabins used by him & his “ Cattle crews” and climbed up to see the remains out in Blair valley On the top of the mountain where the Artist / poet lived for many years with his wife Tanya and their 2 children ( yet another interesting story you may or may not have covered or documented 😉). As a new follower now I look forward to seeing your next videos. Stay safe & go check out Goat Canyon Trestle & the “ Impossible railroad “ 👍👍. Enjoy your travels … 😊
@chuckw1021
@chuckw1021 Год назад
A few years ago on my way to El Centro I got off the the 8 at Mountain Springs exit just to check it out. As I sat down on a rock a highway patrol guy drove up to me and said there's a lot of thieves and bad stuff going on there and I better move on. I was like," Hugh? I always wondered about the history of that spot.
@kennethdoughty644
@kennethdoughty644 4 месяца назад
Yuppers! . Desperados in a Desperate Land !!!
@bryan565656
@bryan565656 Год назад
I love old wagon Road! Everything those men did back in those days was amazing.
@susanherman3707
@susanherman3707 Год назад
Love watching your videos. I learn alot from them. I have traveled that section of I-8 many times and have been to the tower a few times, but I was very interested in learning about the old roads. Thank you!
@sailingaeolus
@sailingaeolus 5 месяцев назад
I'm an old dude and first saw that area in 1987. Absolutely gorgeous. As an FYI, there was a rest stop a ways down I-8 and opposite side from the tower where one could get a nice view of the desert cities. Many thanks for sharing.
@andrewwebb17
@andrewwebb17 Год назад
Well Documented Steve Job well done
@laurants
@laurants Год назад
I used to work a ranch in Campo. Driving the 8 freeway I wold always see these cut outs and wonder when that old road was made in the hillside. Now I finally know, like 20 years later. Thanks.
@JP-su8bp
@JP-su8bp Год назад
Solid tour, thank you. We appreciate you hazarding the snakes for us!
@scoturan5054
@scoturan5054 Год назад
My great grandfather used to run freight up that pass he would have 8 horses pulling the wagon
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT Год назад
Hey, I've seen that place before. I remember it was a landmark when you were looking for the site of a restaurant.😺👍
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
I think it was on that video when the plaque mentioning how the ruins weren't accessible caught my eye.
@mawi1172
@mawi1172 Год назад
This was so funny to see. Vegas has funny photos of PRE AUTO America too. Driving thru boulders here! Scary! Its funny seeing just before we had real roads anywhere. ❤️
@robertfritz9916
@robertfritz9916 Год назад
We enjoy your videos. We lived in Poway for 40 years before moving to Idaho, though we spend the winter months in Canebrake. Some of your adventures we have shared, many we have not. Thanks for doing them as at 75 years old I'm not as agile as I once was so some places are out of my practical reach.
@jamoore144
@jamoore144 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for your awesome film of the old trails and spring. I love learning a bit about old roads, trails and their history.
@Last_one_before_I_go
@Last_one_before_I_go Год назад
I really enjoy your work, thanks so much for bringing this to us all.
@marciodossantosmanganelli2542
Minha iimaginação flutua no Tempo e me transporta para uma época que nunca vivi ! Homens e mulheres de coragem e determinação! A História americana sempre me fascinou! Vídeo excelente! 😊👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Obrigada!
@joshuabarber5272
@joshuabarber5272 Год назад
Another awesome and informative video!! Cant wait for the next one. Thanks
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@triggerMB
@triggerMB 5 месяцев назад
Just love the desert scenery!!! Keep up the great work.
@alextheis1123
@alextheis1123 Год назад
Enjoying your channel. Keep up the good work.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Thank you!
@johnluck1923
@johnluck1923 Год назад
Thanks Steve for doing the hard work so we can view.
@dougtodd305
@dougtodd305 Год назад
I love history, and historical transportation,l never lived in so. Cal,but love traveling those areas . Cant get enough of the desert.thanks for what you do!
@fokkerd3red618
@fokkerd3red618 Год назад
Great tour. Thank you so much
@garymills562
@garymills562 Год назад
As a truck driver, I do I 8 taking freight into San Diego. You can see these old roads and the tower now I know...
@johnhallford239
@johnhallford239 Год назад
I appreciate the research you do and love these adventures. Another great video. Thank ya' sir for sharing.
@siegfriedschudel7024
@siegfriedschudel7024 Год назад
Thank you for this very special adventure we could enjoy with you 👍
@1bobbylarue
@1bobbylarue Год назад
Awesome production of this video... Thank You!
@gomezadams9900
@gomezadams9900 10 месяцев назад
Very interesting bit of history. Thanks, good job
@markjenkins2860
@markjenkins2860 4 месяца назад
Love the rock wall ruins.
@joewenzel5142
@joewenzel5142 Год назад
Reading that plaque. They did something similar through the Avawatz Mountain Pass that goes through the northern (live fire) training area at Ft Irwin. Cave Springs had water and they set up a little trading post selling water to those passing through the hot desert. Someone that trained there during WWII painted his initials and last name (for some reason back then they didn't use just their first name) and the year 1942. Other years were 1896 and the like. Cave Spring is what the name describes, a spring inside a cave. This location in California's Mojave Desert has served humans (and animals) over a long period of time. An Indian War Chief named Walkara used it as a base from which to raid wagon trains on the Old Spanish Trail. Later, caves near the spring were expanded and used to house a store and gas station (this was at one time a main road over the Avawatz Mountains to the Barstow-Daggett area). There is a lead/silver vein in the rock face on the West side of the arroyo just South of the spring location. At some point, a well was dug close to the cave and spring, and a Cottonwood or Poplar tree was planted next to the well.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
I was actually near that area before. When I was in the Army we did some training at Ft. Irwin and there was a mout village off the Avawatz Pass road. Unfortunately we didn't go far enough to see Cave Spring though, but I remember the road.
@joewenzel5142
@joewenzel5142 Год назад
@@SidetrackAdventures I was an Observer Controller there for 3 1/2 years and we would break away from the unit, when we were up in the live fire training area, we were covering and go off and visit that place - it was actually forbidden to go there but we went anyway. One time as we were going up the narrow dirt road to it, two Infantry OCs were coming the other way and I think they wanted to stop us and let us know it was forbidden to keep going but we floored it and blew them off. Ain't got no time for any Karens. Wild burrows visit that place for the water, too.
@shirleyrichards2514
@shirleyrichards2514 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing. I really enjoy your videos. ❤😊
@skcyclist
@skcyclist Год назад
Fascinating and well done.
@garyschultz7768
@garyschultz7768 Год назад
Good history & Well presented..... Thank You kindly
@garyschlagel995
@garyschlagel995 Год назад
GREAT HISTORY, THANK YOU!
@serg-67kvon74
@serg-67kvon74 Год назад
thanks, very informative! Definitely a must see for anyone interested in American history!
@tomharding2742
@tomharding2742 Год назад
Thanks for researching and sharing such a cool piece of history.
@Coltbreath
@Coltbreath Год назад
This was Great it gives me some ideas for the family trip to SD! Thank You
@suziperret468
@suziperret468 Год назад
Beautiful landscape and the old station and stone walls delicately dot the surface.
@leighsayers2628
@leighsayers2628 7 месяцев назад
Fabulous history and vision ..great video .
@1suitcasesal
@1suitcasesal Год назад
This is very interesting history. Thanks for showing us this.
@jeffreynieboer4549
@jeffreynieboer4549 Год назад
Been up and down that grade many times and know that spot very well. Never stopped to check it out though. Thanks for the history lesson! Very interesting.
@heavenlycrystalsandcandles3609
Love your videos it’s awesome seeing these old roads and historical sites
@BamaPhill
@BamaPhill Год назад
Very fascinating seeing the history of your area and the Southwest. Living in the world we now have, it's really hard to imagine the long and extremely difficult work put into creating these roads and structures. Really amazing if you think about it. Thanks for posting these videos.
@donalddodson7365
@donalddodson7365 Год назад
Great graphics weaving together the various routes down to Ocotillo Wells. Thank you.
@craig0769
@craig0769 Год назад
This area is pretty awesome. Lots of recent and ancient history through here.
@Pelerincha
@Pelerincha Год назад
Thanks ,Steve.....
@davidsparks6146
@davidsparks6146 Год назад
He says: "This was built to last" (then remembered the pyramids.... LOL) Fun little adventure. Well done.
@jelipe54
@jelipe54 8 месяцев назад
I watch your videos frequently and I think you've inspired me to visit other places, especially in California
@user-je8no8xq4p
@user-je8no8xq4p Месяц назад
fascinating thank you for doing all this. it is important.
@1984xlx
@1984xlx Год назад
Thanks Steve, for another fascinating look into the past.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Glad you liked it.
@4wdboss230
@4wdboss230 Год назад
Lived in Imperial county all my life. Never seen those ruins, heck, never been in the view tower. Definitely gonna check out these sites when I retire. Thanks for sharing.
@michaelking550
@michaelking550 Год назад
Great job Steve..
@bglrj
@bglrj Год назад
This is a terrific video, as are all you post.
@valeriegoode9762
@valeriegoode9762 Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing.
@warrenjansen7096
@warrenjansen7096 Год назад
Very nice! Thank you.
@gobbleguk
@gobbleguk Год назад
What a cool spring!
@pjellingsen
@pjellingsen Год назад
I really enjoy these videos
@Howoldareweanywayyipes
@Howoldareweanywayyipes Год назад
You have some real history in you sir.. great videos all of them...
@jlmplos
@jlmplos 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for these videos. My history teacher told us that some of the roads here in the LA area that end in "nga" were meant as (people of or from) for example topanga "people of topan" apparently the Spaniards couldn’t pronounce gna and instead did nga. (Topan-gna) There is also Cahuen-gna.
@rustypugh123
@rustypugh123 4 месяца назад
I really enjoy your videos. Nicely done.
@matthewgauthier7251
@matthewgauthier7251 Год назад
Great. Thank you. Really pleased with your vids of San Diego back country.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
Thank you.
@michaelsonleitner5724
@michaelsonleitner5724 Год назад
Thanks Steve, as usual a pristine presentation!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures Год назад
My pleasure!
@cheycasters
@cheycasters Год назад
This was a cool video and very interesting. Me LOVES the old ways!🎸🎸🎸
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