I am a great admirer of this channel. Based on this episode, I would recommend Rudyard Kipling, an interesting author. Thanks for all the great videos over the years.
@@colz848 Nah but usually when Simon talks about a person who he's already done a video about, he'd say "and we already done a video about this person and I'll link the video here" etc. So I was surprised that he forgot 🤷♀️
Yeah that had me tearing up immediately upon him saying that she called for him on her deathbed and died unloved. Such a tragic and heartbreaking short life for that little girl, and that alone is enough to instill a deep hatred in me for Byron. I can't imagine being that cruel and indifferent to a child, let alone your own.
Just wanted to let Simon know that the Ada Lovelace video was the first of his videos I ever watched and now I'm in an endless loop of Biographics, Geographics, Brain Blaze, Casual Criminalist ect.
And very soon there will be a video of the latest cult of the RU-vidr with the 100 channels and his loyal followers brainwashed into fun and frightening facts by the one and only Fact Boy 😂a k a , Boy with the Blaze 🔥
I can't get over the part where his little girl was left to die alone. I was interested untill that point, but now I couldn't care less about anything he did. Absolute piece of s#$t
@@janetkolstein I'm just reading how although Byron thought to remove her he left her at the convent because she was so happy there. In those days what was a 30 year old man with a bohemian lifestyle supposed to do with an enfant under 5 years? In those days everyone cried for someone on their death bed because travel was long and slow; this is before trains for heavens sake!
Fun fact: the Countess Teresa Guiccioli, that Byron had an affair with, is the character “the Countess G______” in Alexandre Dumas’s novel The Count of Monte Cristo. The reason Dumas wrote her name as the “Countess G_____” is because it was extremely common for authors to be sued for libel back then, so by writing her name with a line he made it clear who she was to contemporary readers but without the risk of being sued.
So he separated his daughter from her mother, abused the child ignored the mothers plea for her child and instead of giving the child back cause he got bored he decided to orphaned her? That’s beyond evil, cruel and heartless.
Yes, Agreed. (But weak from blood loss and illness; one very well might feel abandoned and alone (& I do think he actually felt this deeply his whole life)) I wonder if it's Poetic Ironic that it was others that were begging to see more of him. Those Slashed by his knife want justice, redemption & love. Others, Witnessing his cruelty, sit enthralled by the debauchery. Experiencing a Voyeuristic delight, both in the scandals caused by and surrounding Lord B, and by brushing so close and remaining un-ruined.
@@Nephthys-ness A historian friend of mine noted that Lord Byron was essentially the Kardashian of his time. A person who was famous for being scandalous. I hadn't even realized the similarities until she explained it to me.
I must say I'm disappointed to see that you left out the the vampire in Vampyre was directly based on Byron. Using his monstrous reputation to draw in women interested in the bad boy, thinking they could redeem him. Yet the Vampire, and Byron, may have had a second layer, but that was merely a façade: his true self was just as awful, soulless, and cruel as the surface suggested, and then some.
you are wrong in this, to say he was a monster or lacked a soul. He was simply a callous man who made cruel decisions when they suited him. To say that he was soulless and vampire-like smacks of the implication that he had no choice or that he was evil and would have always been drawn to commit more evil. I don't like this as it takes the presumption of choice away from a person's decisions and makes all of their actions the result of some devil's plotting. Human beings are responsible for their own actions.
Hey I think your confused they’re saying the vampire in the game that was based on Byron was soulless lmao 🤣 but I understand what you also mean and you’re right. Humans like to justify the wickedness of people by referring them as soulless animals etc….but no animal is evil by nature only humans!
@@Thebookishjamaican Doing 'evil' is about breaking the implicit agreements with people that society relies on. Animals are not referred to as evil, because they enter into no agreements (though you might argue that wolves or apes can be evil - apes attack and eat other groups of apes). Animals do the same terrible things though that we would call cruel. It's clear to me that both Byron and Percy Shelley were Psychopaths, meaning that they were callous, felt no guilt and showed no remorse. This is something that may be genetic, or just lack of example in early life (which fits - lousy background). The women in their lives and their kids all suffered as a result and some killed themselves or died of neglect. Anyone who has lived with a psychopath knows the impossibility of reforming them - they simply don't see any significance in hurting others in pursuit of their own ends - hard to understand, but the feelings are simply not there! This is a deadly trap for women, who are often attracted to the 'bad boy' who can give them an exciting life.
@@Thebookishjamaican No, I'm saying the novel, The Vampyre, which Byron's physician wrote while in the Geneva mansion with Mary (soon to be) Shelly and Byron and the like. He was basing the vampire in it on Byron's behavior, which is where the modern vampire got its seductive yet still destructive behavior from. It wasn't enough for the vampire to kill, it wanted to destroy their lives for fun.
I had to study the poetry of Keats, Byron and Shelley when I was in school. I can barely remember a single line of any of it but the words that always stuck with me were those of my English teacher - “Byron makes the Rolling Stones look luck a bunch of choirboys”.
Ohhh, definitely "rough trade". Not all human complexity is pleasant...I rather miss the colourful term of "rake-hell" for such a personality as Lord Byron's. There's no doubt that the poet was not alone in his nature within the times...but he is certainly the one we'll always remember.
@beatenbytheclown. Yes. I've read some thing's Byron wrote and I dont see the fascination at all! In this story alone there's several different pictures of the guy, but none of them look like the same person!
I didn't know much about him and thought he was a tragic figure persecuted for being gay. He seems to have been a truly shitty human being that by chance was good at writing and happened to be gay.
He was bi. Bi erasure is so popular, even amongst gay, lesbian and trans people. We exist. Not confused, not greedy, not experimenting, not gay, not straight, bi.
@@terryenby2304 Thank you im bi as well and I was like what is this person saying gay when clearly he was having relations with both boys and girls so he was bi. Even with ppl like Freddy Mercury ppl still call him gay and deny his bisexuality since they think we dont exist and that we are either gay or straight in denial smh.
@@akiraasmr3002 see no. Freddie Mercury was not bisexual. He was gay. There are plenty of actually out actually bisexual people who have faced erasure of their identity, Freddie was not one of them. As a bisexual man and someone for whom Freddie is a hyperfixation, stop.
@@AndersWatches stop that you cant decide who is bisexual and who is not you are contributing to the bi erasure esp when Freddie himself said he was bisexual and he loved his ex gf
I'm sorry Simon's reaction to finding out Byron's daughter is Ada Lovelace is gold. So few people know for remember that tid bit. Ada was a genius that comes from her mother's intelligence and her father's creativity. The story about Allegra is interesting. Putting the emotional hit aside because I so cannot deal with that right now. Percy Shelly was the one who visited her? From all that's said about him that feels out of place. Not in a bad way. That said by that point he had lost a child. There was likely some guilt involved there too.
Re: Allegra Byron A lovelier toy sweet Nature never made; A serious, subtle, wild, yet gentle being; Graceful without design, and unforeseeing; With eyes - O speak not of her eyes! which seem Twin mirrors of Italian heaven, yet gleam With such deep meaning as we never see But in the human countenance. - Percy Bysshe Shelly
At least someone showed little bit of empathy for that little girl, this beautiful poem shows to me that he must cared some, at least more that her father. That part about Allegra was heartbreaking.
@@Caelia7 No way - Shelley was just as much the bastard - leaving his first wife and child (the wife killed herself) and then going on to mistreat Mary (Godwin) Shelley. They were both psychopaths - callous with no ability to feel guilt or show remorse. It's not a thinking thing, it's the complete absence of the guilt response, so that they actually do not see why causing hurt to others in the persuit of there desires is significant at all! Psychopaths learn to act well; say what they know will produce the right effect, without feeling anything - as above.
Only Simon Whistler can say the phrase “Byron wasn’t just thinking with his dick.“ and it still sound completely like Sir Aristocratic language 💯 imo 😂
History is full of people who are remembered more benignly because of their accomplishments and fame. While average people might be considered strange, dangerous or even monstrous for their various behaviors, figures such as Byron are seen as "eccentric" or "tortured souls with a dark side". But sometimes we need to see them for what they truly were; weak, soulless assholes without the courage or decency to face the consequences of their actions...
"He is the best known English poet next to Shakespeare." Really? Can anyone quote anything he wrote other than "So We'll Go No More a Roving'" and "She Walks in Beauty" (which is hard to stomach after knowing how he treated women)? Surely the works of Tennyson, Wordsworth, Keats, and Shelly (and Browning too) are more famous than he is now. If it weren't for the Libertine, "Rock Star" life-style, and the heroic Greek-warrior ending, he'd be a second-tier poet.
"For I have loved thee, ocean. And my joy in youthful sports was ... " yeah, I can quote the works of Byron that lifted my heart to places poetry had never taken me before. He was a man of his time and a word God unequaled to this very day.
He may be one of Britain great poet, but he was also a monster. He died at 36 and this probably saved the lives of many people and who knows to other children. Why removing this poor little girl from her mother to let her die without mercy in a convent.... Thanks for the video, it was really interesting.
He also had a child with his half sister. His legitimate daughter also died at 36. She had her fathers personality , addicted to laudinum and opium. Almost ruined by gambling trying to discover mathematical formulas for gambling. She also did the loose aristocracy bed hoping. So she was similar to her dad without the sexual abuse as a cause. It's a personality trait. Byron was also gonorrhea and syphilis riddled.
I would never assume anyone was spared from sexual abuse. But yes a ravenous ego and a adrenalated mind can certainly be inheritable traits that flourish with substances and money.
She was abused by her mother. And if anything, from what we know, at least Ada wasn't abusive as well. So it's easier for me to feel bad for her and admire her because she was a mathematical genius in an era where women were only viewed as walking uteruses
I was travelling in Turkey, on a bus, and the man next to me saw what I was reading, a biography of Byron. " Ah! Lor Viron! " he said " Enemy of Turks!" Another time, with some Greeks, I was laughing at Byron's dietary habits, dousing his food in vinaigre to keep his weight down. " You really hate the Greeks, don't you!" was the only comment. I learned to steer clear of Byron.
Byron is still remembered as a hero in Greece. Statues and roads bearing his name are everywhere. Even an entire District in Athens is named after him. Thank you for this great video
My favourite thing about Byron. And probably his most redeeming feature is his fight to liberate Greece from the Ottoman empire. I wonder if it ever crossed his mind to liberate his equally oppressed neighbours in Ireland.
@@leonieromanes7265 Well put, and thank you for remembering our history here...unfortunately it seems many english so called liberators failed to see the utter balls up they made in Ireland.
Hey Simon could you do a biographic on Constantine the Great? I always thought that later roman emperors have amazing lives that are worth looking into.
I once did a project on him back in high school. He was pretty much a proto-rock star. He may have been an outright bastard, but then again so is alot of famous historical figures, from Columbus to Mother Theresa. Lord Byron: Pens a great 19th century equivalent of a diss track. Ice Cube and Eminem: We should hang out sometime.
The comparison to 'rock star' fits the bill for many celebrities of old, Liszt made maidens scream and faint, and Lars Laevi Lestadius (a preacher) also, and fans kept cutting bits of his coat as keepsakes. Nothing new under the sun, I guess?
1:40 - Chapter 1 - The limping devil 4:45 - Chapter 2 - Boys & bards 8:10 - Mid roll ads 9:35 - Chapter 3 - The grand tour 13:05 - Chapter 4 - Walking in beauty 17:20 - Chapter 5 - Escape to the continent 20:40 - Chapter 6 - " A grand object"
I immediately had to inform my father, English teacher and lover of all things Byronic, about this video’s existence. Also, gotta love those historical figures who must’ve seen the future and gone out of their way to make sure historians couldn’t call them straight.
@@badmash5190 I sent him and my sister a screenshot within minutes of its upload. I’m sorry, do I know you? It’s just kinda weird you bring up my mom since she’s also an English teacher.
Straight hasn't always been the brag the last 150 yrs make it seem. Sex has always been a strategic tool, if you found yourself attracted to both sexes, all the more power wielding for you.
Buggery was common in English public schools until recently. Read Diana's brother's book about the tortures he endured in his "good" school. Childrearing almost always included child abuse. Sexual abuse is hard to get over. Doesn't fit the modern definition of Bi, does it?
Just to be fair, we shouldn't thank Byron for our favorite Byronic Characters like Heathcliff. The one who gets that award is Lady Caroline Lamb, with her novel Glenarvon, we have to give credit where it's due.
How weird! I'm currently writing a book on Nottinghamshire's Literary heritage. My plan for this evening was to start researching Lord Byron - and up pops this video on my subscriptions list! :)
@@Soniciscool1214 I know he had a contentious relationship with Claire, who may have not made a great mother herself. Perhaps nuns weren't a bad idea, though I'm not sure why the Shelleys didn't play a bigger role (they had lost more than 1 child themselves). Child mortality was pretty bad for all classes at that time, I think, so maybe Allegra wasn't as badly off with the nuns as we'd imagine. I think she did of a fever that was making the rounds then (not an atypical thing).
Many creative people fear self reflection. I did, for many years. It was when tragic circumstances beyond my control almost destroyed me that I gave over to the process of healing. Now I see, my pain was a parasite on my creativity. The force of creation is an infinite wellspring, and its source is pure love.
@@Soniciscool1214 ikr? By now, everyone would be peachy keen. Gee, that wasn’t nice, I’m not going to do that! In a couple generations, it’s all gone, eh?
I dated two musicians that sang the most beautiful love songs. They were the biggest a**holes to women. Don't fall for it ladies the poetry has nothing to do with the man.
I could forgive almost anything. But his treatment of his own beautiful little daughter was monstrous. How only syphilis could explain it. I find it difficult to believe that a mind not riddled with mercury voids could do such a thing.
Can we please have a Biographics on Zhuge Liang? I'm constantly reminded of the story he defeated one of the largest armies in China by just sitting at a table and drinking tea in the middle of the street.
Byron's poetry changed my entire concept of literature. I devoured his books as a teen and, at 80, can still today quote much of his poetry. He was a man of his time. Abused and abuser. Tragic for all concerned. But his words vibrate through the ages.
I always remember that part in Jay and Silent Bob, when Eliza Dushku is making fun of Shannon Elizabeth because Jay was kissing her hand like lord fucking Byron.
As far as I understood, financial issues were another cause for his marriage to Annabelle, as suggested and pressured by his friends. He'd been forced to sell his estate recently. Also another issue with the whole Byron and Augusta affair is how much he wanted people to believe he slept with his sister. I suggest reading "His Very Self and Voice: Collected Conversations of Lord Byron" for more information if you haven't! If I'm recalling correctly, he is reported to have said he wanted to make it into a scandal because he loved the story. Another point is Hobhouse's suggestion that Byron was always trying to get people to pay attention to him with fictional stories, such as suggesting to people that he'd murdered someone, etc. It's a fascinating aspect of Byron, how he reveled in that space between reality and fiction, always leaving the truth in question. Another thing to know about Byron is his obsession with Napoleon, especially regarding how Napoleon manipulated his image and made himself into a heroic figure, which Byron imitated. He even took to signing his name "N. B." for Noel Byron after inheriting the name Noel from a relative.
Bonaparte was seen as progressive by several in his time but he was also divisive among those who supported him. As time went by his popularity became less guaranteed. Beethoven removed the dedication of his Eroica symphony when he learned of Bonaparte’s self proclamation as emperor. Until then he had been more in favour. Charismatic (in modern speak populist) leaders can, and do have that effect. European politics from the 1980s onwards has had its fair share of that sort.
Learned about him and studied his Child Harold in school during the communism in Albania . Not a peep about his sexual orientation, only how much he traveled in southern Albania and how much he loved Albanians.
As I get older (having had kids) it’s harder for me to detach the person from their work. “Yeah, I wrote 100 great songs, or won several sport championships, or won multiple acting awards… but I also left a 5 year old alone to die… CELEBRATE ME!” 😐 … no.
Byron heard she was ill and sent a doctor to the convent. Then he heard she was better. Then he heard she died. He had earmarked money for her future dowry. She died surrounded by the nuns who adored her.
He also took part in the Greek revolution or at least tried .. and his death during a siege that it can only be discarded as the " tet offensive " of it's time in a way helped the Greek cause even more , causing a huge wave of international sympathy for the Greek rebels that couldn't be ignored by the superpowers of the time
@@ginnrollins211 my thoughts exactly... which is surprising when you think about some of what that show for its day pulled off. Not risqué or anything but definitely for the older youth to watch only. I know I never would’ve watched it as a kid because I knew better. Too busy enjoying the new anime of the times, Full Metal Alchemist, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach and Kirby: Right back at ya!.
Here are some suggestions for another video - all interesting people April Ellison/William Ellison Jr. (1790-1861) - a freed slave from South Carolina who became a successful slaveowner and planter himself before the civil war. Anthony Johnson (1600-1670) - a former indentured servant who became one of the first African American property owners in America and a successful tobacco farmer. Lord Mountbatten (1900-1979) - Prince Philip’s uncle and Queen Elizabeth’s second cousin once removed who was assassinated by the IRA Yukio Mishima (1925-1970) - Japanese poet, author, playwright, actor and nationalist who committed seppuku after a failed attempt to overthrow Japan’s 1947 constitution. Robert Walpole (1676-1745) - British politician who was the first prime minister of Great Britain from 1721 until 1742 under King George I and King George II. Eamon DeValera (1882-1975) - prominent political leader in 20th century Ireland who, after the Irish war of independence from 1919 to 1921, was in the public eye for over forty years from 1922 until his death were he served as head of government (Taoiseach/prime minister) and head of state (president). He was nearly executed in the Easter Rising in 1916 and was key in putting into place the new constitution on 1937. A very prominent Irish figure and one of the most important in Irish history. George Eastman (1854-1932) - American entrepreneur who founded the Eastman Kodak company. He was a pioneer of photography and a major philanthropist. He commit suicide at the age of 77 because of chronic pain from health problems. Emile Zola (1840-1902) - French novelist and journalist who is an early practitioner in the literary genre, naturalism. He was involved in the Dreyfus affair, a political scandal in France. He died in 1902 at the age of 62 from accidental carbon monoxide poisoning. ryoichi sasakawa (1899-1995) - Japanese businessman, politician, sports administrator, philanthropist and was criminal who helped Norman Borlaug with his Green Revolution. Seamus Heaney (1939-2013) - Irish poet, playwright and translator who won the 1995 Nobel prize for literature and wrote a poem about The Tollund Man comparing his cause of death to The Troubles in Northern Ireland. W.B. Yeats (1865-1939) - Irish poet, dramatist and writer with an interest in the occult who helped found the Abbey Theatre and was a senator for the Irish Free State. He is one of the most important historical figures in Irish history. Prince Phillip, The Duke of Edinburgh (1921-2021) - husband and consort to Queen Elizabeth who served in the navy as a young man, serving in the Second World War. He died recently so it would be a good choice. Jordan Belfort (born 1962) - former stockbroker, author, motivational speaker and convicted felon who committed fraud via stock market manipulation. His book was the inspiration behind the film The Wolf of Wall Street starring Leonardo DiCaprio in 2013. Andrew Cunanan (1969-1997) - spree killer responsible for five murders before his suicide via gunshot. His victims include Gianna Versace and Lee Miglin. Lee Miglin (1924-1997) - American business tycoon, real estate developer and philanthropist who was spree killer, Andrew Cunanan’s third murder victim. “The Count of Saint Germain” (1691 or 1712 -died 1784) - European Adventurer who achieved prominence in high society in the 1700’s. His real name is unknown while his background is obscure. He claimed to be the son of Prince Francis II Rakoczi of Transylvania. He was arrested for suspicion of espionage during the Jacobite rebellion but was released without charge. Julia d’Aunigny (1670 or 1673 -died 1707) - 17th century French opera singer who was known for her flamboyant lifestyle. Her father was a secretary to the master of the horse to King Louis XIV. She was a keen sword fighter, cross-dressed and tried to run away with a female lover after killing a man in a duel. She died at the age of 33. Past American presidents, British prime ministers, monarchs and Roman emperors would be good as well.
Just to let you know there is no way that his mother wore a corset while pregnant. Corsets were not invented until the mid-19 century and prior to that women wore stays. Whether corsets or stays they were worn by every woman of every status to do everything including maternity ones. But yeah she couldn’t wear something that hadn’t been invented.
everything in your comment is off a. Stays are actually corsets and are recognized as such. B. even in England at the time it was mainly more aristocratic folk who wore stays. and yeah they probably weren't as bad as most people think but they still did cause some terrible problems. C. Even the term corset didn't come around in the mid 19th century it just became much more popular then.
19 Aπριλη 2024, σαν σημερα συμπληρώνονται ακριβως 200 χρονια απο το θανατο του Λορδου Βυρωνα στο Μεσολόγγι. Ο Βύρωνας εδωσε τη ζωη του για την Ελλαδα, και το ονομα του στη γειτονια του Βυρωνα, στην Αθήνα. Ο Λόρδος Βύρωνας ειναι ο καλύτερος αγγλος ποιητης του 19ου αιώνα.
Humans gotta come up with a format to separate a person from their achievements. When that person is POS. The type of human it takes to leave their 5 year old child alone to die shouldn't be remembered. What they did an how they did it, if important & useful there should be a space for.
I like that we are humane enough to be sickened and disturbed by his treatment of his daughter, unfortunately it is not accurate to posterity nor useful for the betterment of mankind if we do not make our darkness understandable. We need to be able to understand our greatest villains in order to make sure we do not allow for their return in coming generations.
These people are psychopaths, meaning that they are callous, feel no guilt and show no remorse. Some say this is genetic. I think it results from failure to acquire, in childhood the feelings that hold our society together - a bad background, as is the case with Byron and his offspring. The 'achievements' you refer to are questionable: they tend to rest on an ability to say what others are afraid to say, about lust, in poetry, or about politics. We should recognise that this is because they are psychopaths, and question what their message is and it's appeal to basic desires without check.
The fact that the critics attacking him inspired the poetry that would make him famous is honestly rather hilarious. There's a few modern rappers today that became known because of a few well-worded dis tracks.
He may have had bipolar disorder as well as being a narcissist (his awful childhood would have put him at increased risk of narcissism). But he was still responsible for his actions.
When I took British literature in college, I remember that we had to read some of Don Juan that was in our textbook. We also discussed his connection to Mary Shelley. I personally have never been a big fan of poetry but I did understand how he directly and indirectly influenced literature to come.
John de Lancie based his persona of the omnipotent character of Q in Star Trek: TNG, DS9 and Voyager on Lord Byron in that he was “mad, bad and dangerous to know”.
It'd be awesome to see an episode on philosopher and mathematician Bertrand Russell (teacher of Wittgenstein who already has an episode) he's very interesting, won a nobel prize in lit, and was very involved with anti-war movement and politics
Thanks for this. I lived near Newstead Abbey when I was young in the 1950s & '60s, and often visited. For fans of horror, I heartily recommend 'The Stress of her Regard' by Tim Powers, much of which revolves around Byron, Shelley and the others on the continent. It's both brilliant and very, very creepy...
Your reaction to Ada Lovelace being Byron's daughter was, well, adorable! In the film The Bride Of Frankenstein, which starts with that stormy night of telling ghost stories, one of the characters is named after Byron's physician. Dr. Polidori coaxes Victor Frankenstein into creating a mate for his creation. Your writers are top notch!
Thankyou Simon, for recognising the connection of a horrid childhood, to the psychological damage and behaviour of of the adult. I always try to attach this contemplation to any soul who is deemed problematic, violent, severely mentally disturbed. I believe it is rare for anyone to be acting on pure 'evil'. ✌️
How horrible the way he deserted his baby at a convent. I'd never read anything about him like that before. Puts him in an entirely new, &, much less favorable light. As far as people go, it appears he was a callously cruel narcissistic jerk.
The lake behind my house in McLeod County Minnesota is named for him, no idea why. Lake Byron, is "land-locked" private owned farm land except for a Gopher Campfire Club & gun range where my township precinct votes .
1:36 SECONDS. IT TOOK YOU ONE MINUTE AND THIRTY SIX SECONDS BEFORE I HAD TO COMMENT, the way you called him sexually adventurous and hero and villain and the original badboy, I even thought you know after all my time running around being a badboy chasing girls it's high time I learned about my roots and learned about the OG from an OG. Speaking of high time, SMOKE BREAK! (Because I have ADHD so I need a smoke break after 1:36 and this comment lol.)
Unfortunately Lord Byron is English It is incredibly bizarre that Scottish nationalists try to claim England’s Lord Byron. He was Born in London, lived there a few years, then lived in Scotland a few years, including a very short time at Aberdeen grammar school (Which makes it extremely humorous that they have a statue of an adult Byron outside their school when he only spent a short time as a very young child there). The vast majority of his education was in London, Eton and Cambridge. He then returned to his ancestral English home at the young age of 10 to take up his title. He never again returned to Scotland. So to try and claim him as Scottish is very funny. It’s kind of reminiscent of Rod Stewart, JK Rowling and Peter Higgs who are English but pretend to be Scottish when it suits. Pretenders are insulting to true Scots. Additionally ‘Scottish’ culture icons of the haggis and kilt are English Trojan horses designed to covertly oppress real Scottish culture. Haggis is originally from England and the modern kilt invented by an Englishman. The only way to get back to our true culture is to vote for Scottish independence. I implore any true Scot reading this to vote yes in indyref2. It might be difficult for a while after economically but it is essential for the long term preservation of Scotland. Our home.
