Lord Jamar Debates DJ Vlad About His "Top 50 Hip-Hop Groups of All Time" List (Part 16) 

Lol, I was thinking the same thing. Brand Nubians were three exceptional individual Rappers with great production.

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I can't stand Vlad sometime 😂😂😂

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@@amethyst5393 i cant stand him period!

@Stuck in the 90s i don't even think u could say Jamar is racist or prejudice in this situation....cause he's stated b4 that part of HIS criteria is that you have to have a club banger....dont think the beasties ever had a banger, just radio hits. I dont think Jump around by House of Pain got play in any 18 & over nightclubs

Vlad is a fucking fool. This Devil don't know Hip Hop.

S a C tell that to the KKK

Hes pure racist that's his problem he have nightmares about white ppl

rain man 😂😂😂

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needmorebeer35 and.......

needmorebeer35 facts

Its gonna be a funny list to see. It'll be OLD SCHOOL NYC AF! It will also be an education in Hip Hop, and one should take notes, because whether one agrees with Lord Jamar or not, he still has a knowledgable opinion about all things related to Hip Hop.

As it should (except for the no west coast thing)

People want to trash groups like the Migos but there run have surpassed alot of these so called Legendary groups, You can't deny Migos have earned a Legendary spot in Hip hop whether you want to admit to it or not.

@@monroethegreat7539 hell no sir lol

@@fredrickjohnson7711 And thats your opinion and i have mine, Thats like people saying Grandmaster flash or Kool Moe Dee or Melly mell dont deserve there spots in Hip hip, Alot of these pioneers have not had the career that migos had or touched as many people like the Migos have, I respect the old school but you also have to show respect for the New school Era as well

ANDRE MONROE what run nigga?

@@monroethegreat7539 But that's just sales and streams bro. Also Migos don't really talk about anything in their music like that. They just got a cool flow and rhythm to them but I do fucks with them tho.

Bro... They owned the early 90's these kids don't know a mother fuckin thang.

Message Mane And they made perfect video game music too. Definitely top 20.

Facts

Treach.

@@vinceramirez6963 treach was a monster lyrically dude underrated

ActionGenesis yet you’re watching a video about lord jamar expressing his opinions XD

How Vlad got the Beastie Boys above Run DMC? Ultra Magnetic maaaannnnn those dudes were so ahead of their time it’s not funny. Where’s Stetsonic? Vlad is on that BS. I grew up west coast but loved my NYC hip hop. Now I will say this....Jamar keep talking about he’s from the Mecca and he is but don’t be twisted there’s a bunch of Dudes who are into that real Hip Hop in the west.

😂😂 I peeped that too,I had to grab my popcorn

Beastie Boys released better music than Run. More diverse and interesting. That's why.@@SKOTxFREE

NycDrake 7 😂😂😂....exactly

Why,?

Migos are trash

Bro? He didn't even put Rob Bass and DJ Easy Rock on the list?!?!!!

I contorted my face so bad it's stuck like this.

Facts

@@micsmith672 J-Dilla & Madlib!! Not only were the Pharcyde and The Liks 2 dope groups, they introduced to the masses 2 producers who are today known as top producers of all time!! These producers wouldn't f with them if they didn't highly respect them as MC's!

Pharcyde🔥🔥

Facts... and I'm a East coast dude... i still to this day listen to them and Hieroglyphics

Absolutely! Can't keep running awayyyyyyyy! Classic!

JAY WAYY TOO FRESH that’s his top 50 not mine not yours like top 5 nba nhl mlb nfl etc... respect ppl list we don’t know why he likes it like that like any others. But then again that’s why ppl debate 😂🤣🤣

You cant be smh over eightball and mjg if you know anything about Rapp or hip hop or whatever the fuck you want to call it

@@solowest1334 8ball and MJG made some of the coldest albums solo wise and group wise. Comin out hard and On top of the world are masterpieces.

Just says alot about his taste. But we don't come here for his taste anyway just the interviews he brings us.

And no gangstarr smh

Migos had more success than boogie down

Hello no

@@lemonpack3368 doesn’t make them niggas better than krs one ffs

U and me both

Blasphemous

No one fucking listens to Rakim

@@illyrianprodigy3518 it's an all time list...so of course sum of the groups dont rap anymore...but if your a TRUE hip hop lover... you do go back and listen and appreciate what the did..its like watching old GREATS....

@Daniel's Opinion ur right...but u telling me RAKIM ain't one of the most influential LYRICISTS of his generation...we dont rave about migos lyrics....we like their new FLOW style and music..for their generation

Nobody even knows who Brand Nubian is. Most people only know Lord Jamar for Vlad TV..

Gabriel Trevino correction nigga you didn’t know about brand Nubian.

@@brandonbrown6476 neither do you nobody listens to no damn Brand Nubian

Brandon Brown in the age of the Internet we gotta do better at doing 10 seconds research before talking on subjects. Leads to dumb opinions in mass 😂 I like jamars idea that the lists should be by gen. Cause there complete snapshots of the culture that vary as time progressed.

George Ruckus you don’t know what I know about! I am a hip hop connoisseur

Rich Harrow that nigga vlad really out here in these streets

Free my nigga vlad on crip

Yal mad at his own opinion, which I dont agree with either but hey it's his opinion idc

TheCrunchySopa Vlad is a joke brah

@@Pewpewpew1991 shit I never said he couldn't have one.. all I'm doing is laughing at it

Migos don’t even chart on my list

Migos ahead of Pete Rock and CL smooth MOP No Ultra Magnetic No Nice and Smooth Vlad is full of shit.

I laughed at you calling him Vlod like UGod.

@@PassportKings 💯😂😂😂

Migos go hard i dont even know who those other people are

@@liltree8382 😴😴😴😴

@@dariusmcbride9792 exactly 😂😂😂

Lil Tree trolling

Funny thing is this guy isn't trolling, he probably has never heard Eric b and Rakim in his life...

Either way the East and the West has the best hiphop.

@@th30ne96 South is very solid

Probably the same names with different order

Yes finally common sense nobody top is same ppl love certain artist more then others so why nobody respect others ppl opinions if so why ask what’s your top whatever. Doesn’t matter if we think it’s corny or not flawed or not that’s are view not his. Mine would have ppl talking yours also etc... no list is perfect

No. We should all agree on a top 50. And cement it somewhere and then we can move on.

2Faded247 Facts 💯

Stop it

Idk about the group but swae lee has been on a lot of hits

No young soldierz on djvlads list????

U a clown ass dude

Black Moon? Smiff n Wessun? Heltah Skeltah? Boot camp? Red and Meth?

@@johnb7053 Ok somebody else noticed at least!! No BCC?! I was disgusted, lol!

MoScO Kidd I’m not listening to his bullshit list again but I’m pretty sure he missed DITC too smh

@@johnb7053 i was bumpin that nocturnal then started bumpin that ogc

He only gave his Top 20..Are any of those Top 20?? Digable Planets? Onyx? I can't see a group with 1 great album being in the Top 20 unless it's The Fugees.

What u expect west side connection diss the whole east coast on their first album.

Think about it . cube wc and mack 10 diss NYC on there first album collaboration .of course he's going to diss the west side connection brah. Do ur homework.

terrible second half 🤣

He's Russian!

We all love the Lox but they wasn't making hits. Cash money and Young Money all around was bigger than the Lox. They should've stayed with Bad Boy.

@@damaged2810 yeah aight the we are the streets album was fucking fire . Stop smoking crack they should be top 15 easy

@@vice2183 no cap that we are the streets album was a fucking problem bro i still can listen to that shit from start to finish today

I can’t wait you already know it’s coming

Godfre interviews shows me that hes unnaturally funny...he try to hard but comedy is subjective..but id rather see out of all the people vlad interviews is tray dee and china mac n boosie

This probably the best one you need cypress hill and run DMC on there also as bonus

@@313khari for sure

@@dhjallumni people forget how dope eightball and mjg was coming out hard was a classic

Bone thugs number 2 all time is wild

My all-time favorite list isn't the same as my all-time best list. There are any number of reasons to like whatever it is that lies outside of the measure of actual greatness. Like maybe your favorite fighter isn't necessarily the greatest fighter. Or a food you think is great might not be considered great by the rest of the world. All these groups are great groups on this top ten. But no, Eightball and MJG were not greater than Run DMC. Mobb Deep was not greater than Public Enemy. UGK is not the third greatest rap group of all time.

No doubt! The whole boot camp click!!!!

Yup he put trash on this list. Blackmoon is top 25 easy, they go in my top 10 maybe even top 5 but that’s just me. Group Home and Onyx belong on the list

SoulTaliban and also Long Island and westchester(where he’s from lol)

Respect to Jamar and the east coast, but NY dudes swear that no one else is relevant in Hip Hop outside of NY.

@@anaturalmusic_1983 facts

Antajuan Garcia That's a damn lie. Niggaz still salty cause NY had their arm cross instead of embracing with a hug in the early stage.

@@anaturalmusic_1983 very true. NYC dudes like him are like - we want you to sound like us and you do we will still hate you - different sounding away from NYCs style sells millions of records, creates a different culture and we will still hate you. Never heard of NYC hip hop stars with the exception of a few giving props to other region's that started thier own style of hip hop. To me that's total butt hurt jealousy. Yet they copy the whole LAs blood and Crip culture and still don't pay homage of where it started.

Man EPMD had some way ahead of the time shit.

They're in my top 5.

Real spit!

Cuddy83 they are real friends you fool

Vlad wants a Migos interview so this is him sucking up

They should not even make it to the list

He didn't say state property 🤔

You old ass niggas be hatin

Lyrically the Lox is better. All around Rae is better.

Fuck that, he had them over 8ball and MJG!!! Those noodle head clowns aren't NOWHERE near those legends.

@@damaged2810 nigga Rae has nothing over the lox.... Stay off the crack bruh

Hell yeah sadat x had the voice

It’s his list. You can make your list

They reminisce so we never forget

1 hit wonder

That boot camp is the only group for me

😂😂😂😂😂😂 right s.m.h

I'm surprised he mentioned digital underground later in the list (considering vlads loves tupac) 😂

Bruh why yall hating lmao Migos will go down in hip hop history as being better than the Onyx. And I'm not a fan of either.

They don't talk about shit though

@@LoLLoL-mm6tt Migos will go down as being more Popular then ONYX which doesnt mean shit

hieroglyphics!!!!

@@irvingdelahoz9390 Soul of mischief was already mentioned. Hiero like Boot camp are much larger than a group.

Above added to my list, good shout

Artifacts fo sho. and DEF SQUAD ALL DAY

Bro he didn't even list Pete Rock and C.L. smooth?! Did he?

Vlad is the biggest fool migos over epmd

That’s what I’m saying

Is two people considered a group or a duo​@@papichulo4925

Hahahah hilarious, how can you even like HipHop without onyx and bootcamp. Vlads such a fucking idiot hahah considering he's like 40 something

@@kingkevboi67 it's his opinion

Not even naughty by nature, X clan, souls of mischief

He snuck them and brand Nubian in at the end 😂😂😂

No CMW or Above the law 🤔

Melvin Wright lets be real cmw was always just mc eiht lol a lot of us didn’t even really know what was going on with cmw because we never saw or heard anyone really speak besides eiht

@@MrKyobeatz they belong in a top 50

Melvin Wright ehhhh idk I would put above the law in there before cmw just cause they have more musical history they shaped ruthless after dre left that wasn’t easy at all cmw did some dope shit but they didn’t really change anything just enhanced what was already out to a higher degree but now that I say that yea I guess top 50

#1

Migos had more hits than probably the whole list combined besides OutKast

You tripping you have to respect how many hits they have and how how much money do you earn since they been in the rap game!

Migos suck

@streettalktv Naw bitch its about talent

Brandon WORD! I HEAR you my man 😃✊🏾✊🏾!! I’m LITERALLY JUST a year younger than you , and I REMEMBER WHEN I first started scouring those JOINTS from those points of YESTERdecades around the age of 19,20 and HEARD “Death Blow” from Moe Dee and was like HOLY SHIT 😮😮😶 🤣🤣🤣!

Check out "The Best" and "Rock You"."I Go To Work",too.

"Kool Moe Whack" as Ultra Magnetic MCs called him 🤣😂 only trolling but that's much love mentioning him. This interview shoulda paid homage to so many

That a negative

Damn Right!! Let'em know everybody knows but they act like they don't know! Where they got it from That fly rappin sing song flow the thuggish ruggish Bone Yo!

Bone so underappreciated, been and still spitting 🔥🔥🔥 that people's ears are still playing catch up too, they even was spitting about the Trap before people called it that with Krayzie Bone talking about using soap for dope, only thing they didn't do was brag rap, still my #1 to this day

Top 3 our # 1

More influential than NWA?

First album?Classic.

XClan was super dope!!

Thank u sir

@@mikeb483 Second one too

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simplyrecommended beastie boys always sounded like the knockoff rundmc to me

White men** you racist idiot don’t call men boys

Beastie's had more hits bro .. White boys had more bangers than run&DMC... But why no Whoodini? D12? Vlad trippin

Xeez Nice Nice bangers to who? They 🗑

Thats a collective of groups, not a group. But all of the groups except OGC should be top 50.

Everything Remains Raw Podcast That’s the same thing. A collection of groups BUT during they’re 90s era they and others called Boot Camp Clik as I said a Super Group!! That’s why they were called The Boot Camp Clik that what most people resignated with!!

@@tyronegladde5952 When did you say super group before the last comment? And a collective of groups is not the same thing as a group. That's like saying Native Tongues were a super group! No, they were a collective, a collection of groups. Black Moon, Smif'N'Wessun, Heltah Skeltah & Original Gun Clapperz(and the Beatminerz as producers) all came together and formed Boot Camp Clik. They were all on Duck Down and people called them that back then more often than Boot Camp. I'm not arguing that they aren't a super group, they were. I think Buckshot, Tek, Steele, Ruck & Rock & Starang Wonder could hang with Meth, GZA, GhostFace, Raekwon, Deck & ODB as a 6 on 6 strongest MCs from the crew(hang with, not beat, Wu's top tier are not getting beat by ANY Crews best 6) AND The Beatminerz were almost as prolific as RZA with the beats(Beatminerz are underrated, they had a LOT of bangers) But Top Dog & Louisville Slugga from OGC couldnt even shine the shoes of anyone on the 2nd tier from Wu...Cappadonna, RZA, Masta Killa & U-God. In fact that 2nd tier on WU could probably beat Bootcamp's top 4, but that would be maaaaaaad close. Anyway...what Im saying is I used to checl for EVERYTHING Duckdown released because they were the 2nd beat crew back then from NYC. I do think Dungeon Family was better but thats another story..Dungeon Family came out with a collective album but people dont consider them a group. Same with Bootcamp. Its ok to misspeak, homie. Nobody is winning or losing this commemt thread. Imnjust glad there are more Bootcamp fans out there. RIP SEAN P!!!

Everything Remains Raw Podcast Top Verbal MC from the Wu was RZA, Ghost, Inspectah Deck, Ghost, Cappa, Raekwon , Gza and Killah Priest. Second tier was UGOD, Masta Killah ODB was more a personality then verbally com on fam!!! Your right about Top Dog and Louie Ville But you also had Illa Noyz!! Sean Price, Rockness, Tek Steele , Starang and Illa Noyz would eat up second tier of the Wu land slide . I also checked for EVERYTHING in Bootcamp Clik!! BTJs, Representatives, Rusty Jooks

Everything Remains Raw Podcast We saying the same thing Family Super Group vs Collection of groups Boot Camp Clik, Native Tongues Super Groups/ Collection of groups same thing fam!!! Big yourself up for being a fan of Boot Camp Clik

I feel this, I only wrestle with Bone Thugs or UGK as the top, both equal in my head

Same shit!

So then destiny's child is a Trio and not a group.

A group is 2 or more, no need for a distinction

The Shaolin Six yeah to me 2 or more is a group

Negative

@@vice2183 they not top 10 but they should've been higher at least top 15 or 20 they dope

8 Ball & MJG real legends.

@@ogmont yeah they dope af fasho

Ehhh. See that's the problem judging other people's lists. I think there a few UNDENIABLE artists that we ALL can agree (The ATCQ, Public Enemy, Run DMC types,etc..) After that it really does come down to the era, region you grew up in..... 8 Ball & MJG is not top 10 to me, not top 20...

NICE N SMOOTH, SMOOTH N NICE, I AM THE BEEF AND IM THE RICE

Bad Meets Evil/D12.

Run over Wu..They were the first to bring hip hop to the mainstream and brought Areosmith back.Wu nor N.W.A. or any group has done that.

Diane V 1) I didn’t change anything. I added another selection. 2) Even if I did edit, so what!! 3) This is MY list. Not yours. And I highly doubt you can teach me ANYTHING about hip hop. Lol.

@ReD ReaVeR fuck u

Outlawz should def be in everyone top 50

Did they really need to be on Hail Mary? I feel like that song only needed 2Pac.

MY NEW TV true

MY NEW TV but they did when hard on hit em up tho

Lmao

Kkkkkkkkkkk time stamp please

He said WC

@@Beastmode_44 It's pronounced "Dub C"

@Bellickeys it would make more sense

Yes

yup

One Deep a fkng Oscar

But u also had to ACTUALLY BE GOOD RAPPERS...they was not

@@phenomfacemob1011 what you mean they weren't? They were good for their time and content, if you comparing three 6 to people like biggie then you not looking at rap right... the whole crunk music, trap rap, beats, all that came from them

Born King Absolutely 🎤🎤🎤🎤 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Soul Brotha#1 Word. Slept on not many talk about this album

Born King I would also add the Mantronixs, Three Times Dope and D. I.T.C. as well!! VLAD didn’t mention any of these groups.

Wtf. No redman and methodman as a group .????..

He looked a lil' salty, but that was to be expected. He kept his composure though.

I promise u he only said that cuz there friends now if jamar wasnt a regular on the showing promise u vlad would have them much lower

Blackstar was a sick project...Ive wanted another Blackstar album for years.

Bodycount ice t's group didn't make the list...

It's Vlad, what did you expect lol.

Facts!!👊🏾🤜🏾🤛🏾💪🏾☝🏾🙏🏾

More facts!👊🏾🤜🏾🤛🏾💪🏾☝🏾🙏🏾

Slum Village, Little Brother

How can he forget about THE LOX!? Wow

They are still groups, not individuals. You could make an argument with Eric B and Rakim, Gang Starr and Pete Rock and CL Smooth where MC's and DJ's, or in CL's case a producer, are paired, but if you are talking groups of MC's then you would have to include OutKast and UGK.

what about WC and the Madd Circle?

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@Milestonecomics Salt N Pepa are pioneers of rap for women. I am a woman. This list is about who MY favorite rap groups are and while I appreciate Gangstarr and Wutang they are not in my top five...

Hell nah 🤦🏾‍♂️ his was just as bad as the billboards, especially for putting Beasty boy's trash ass's in the top ten

SuperSupacoop no liks. no luniz 👎 click

Exactly. Like, "congratulation attention whore"

The Fat Boys should have been on this list. Their debut is one of the greatest rap debuts of all time. They weren't terribly consistent though.

Lol hell naw I would have put Hot Boyz before them

8ball and mjg !