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Lord of the Rings - Lady Haleth - Tolkien's "Renowned Amazon." Matt discusses the 1st Age heroine, Lady Haleth, Leader of the Haladin.

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@christianefiorito6684
@christianefiorito6684 3 года назад
Thank you again. I am in the process of re reading all the Tolkien books ( again after almost 40 years( the advantages of a lock down and a chronic rheumatoid disease). Its a lot of fun, but even more following you and some others on youtube to illustrate the depths of the world and all those seemingly small stories, where one only could make a 90 minute great film. Historically interesting in the story of the house of Haleth is the reference to the Celtic population who inhabited the British isles , in pre -Christian times. Many of the Celtic tribes had Matrilinear heritage and their refused to live under Christian rule, did not end with their extinction, but with little pockets of Celts with their own languages and culture in different parts of Europe From Ireland , over Scotland, and Wales to the French territory of Brittany and the Spanish province of Galicia in the North West of Spain, all the regions have Celtic heritage in their peoples cultures and different Celtic languages are spoken there. On the British isles they are known as different forms of Gaelic.The also where the ones with the Druids,, remember Asterix, so even this story fits with the Druedain. Interesting how a so deeply catholic man like Tolkien, describes these folks , who where heretics for the roman catholic church as such a valiant and honorable people and even honors their leadership of women.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
Great point, Christiane! I hadn't thought of the real world parallel, but it certainly fits. I'm reminded of Boudica, for instance.
@dalepride8671
@dalepride8671 4 года назад
Definitely one of the most interesting topics you have done, in my opinion as i had no idea about Haleth. Keep up the great work Matty
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 4 года назад
Dale Pride Thanks so much!
@christianefiorito6684
@christianefiorito6684 3 года назад
Btw. I would love a video about "the gift of men" and what it really means for humanity and why death is termed as a gift from Eru Iluvatar. Since a gift is usually something positive and Tolkien was very precise with words and their meaning ,it would be very interesting to speculate about the positive side of this gift and research what is there in the books and letters.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
As it happens, I do have a "gift of men" video - Voila! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-11XAxi2UE6o.html
@lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312
@lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312 2 года назад
YESH!!! I just saw your video on years of the Lamps and asked if you could talk about Haleth and boom you already did woot woot! You are awesome!
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 2 года назад
Hurray! Happy to oblige! 🙂
@cingvaldson
@cingvaldson 5 лет назад
Hello Matt! Thanks again for the upload. My partner and I look forward to your posts every week. Your analyses are insightful, informative, understandable, and, above all, entertaining. We have a video request. We thoroughly enjoy the friendship Gimli and Legolas developed. Would you go the the entirety of Gimli and Legolas's relationship - from foe to friend to traveling west? Cheers!
@LuluLaRue
@LuluLaRue 5 лет назад
Yup. I would love that. Anything about their friendship later on would be glorious
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 5 лет назад
Jesper P That's a great topic idea! It shall be done! And I really appreciate your kind words.
@cingvaldson
@cingvaldson 5 лет назад
@@DorkLords Fantastic! Thank you, good sir. Looking forward to it.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 5 лет назад
Jesper P Voila! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LT73DFNysMY.html
@bereftspud279
@bereftspud279 5 лет назад
Tolkien developed Elven history way more than Hobbitish or Human history in the legendarium. However he made a weakness in the worldbuilding his strength since all the stories of the Silmarillion are from Elvish perspective, which explains why we don't know where men go after death
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 5 лет назад
poppn Good point - the Edain are mostly defined by their relationship with the elves.
@christianefiorito6684
@christianefiorito6684 3 года назад
I believe this is, because men( and Tolkien was a human) do not really know where they go after death. Tolkien had of course his catholic faith about what will be happening, but he never defined this as lore, for his world, or even talks about it. I think here the allegory vs. applicability thing comes into play. No living man really knows where we are going, unless in faith. So Tolkien gave his readers the freedom to explore, think and believe what give them hope and help in an inevitable situation of certain death of all humans. I think it would be interesting to hear a video from Matt, about the gift of men and what it can mean.
@1977rodi
@1977rodi 8 месяцев назад
Your channel is amazing. I learn so much!
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the kind words, Salvador!
@1977rodi
@1977rodi 3 года назад
Excellent! As always. Did Tolkien universe have witches? I don't know if Beruthiel is one of them. But I don't remember any witches in Tolkiens work.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
Thanks for the compliment! And great question. The term "witch" does come up in Tolkien's mythology (ala the Witch-King). But it's not a common phrase. Eomer calls Galadriel a sorceress; and we are told that Numenoreans practiced the black arts. I think the best quote re witches is about Turin's mother, Morwen. The quote suggests that the term is used by the Easterlings: “But so great was the beauty and majesty of the Lady of Dor-lómin that the Easterlings were afraid, and dared not to lay hands upon her or her household; and they whispered among themselves, saying that she was perilous, and a witch skilled in magic and in league with the Elves.”
@tylerbarrett6652
@tylerbarrett6652 3 года назад
I listen to a lot of the LOTR uploads..... from many content creators. I've found in a few places that the descendants of the House of Halleth who went to Numenor actually were accompanied by these Druidain... some of them. And I frequently wonder what the origin story for these Druidain are... and are the ones who go to Numenor also accorded with long life and good health and such? JRRT leaves so many things to our imaginations.... "someone must go in in the telling of the tales". Perhaps there should be some flexibility in these copyright laws... and it goes to the question of ownership vs stewardship I mentioned in another comment.... what are the rules when there is collaborative creation? We still have some work to do in sorting those out, i think.
@bereftspud279
@bereftspud279 5 лет назад
Also, I wonder if Gimli ever revealed his Khuzdul name to Legolas
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 5 лет назад
poppn I'll look it up! I'll add it to the Gimli/Legolas video.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 5 лет назад
poppn Thine wish is my command! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LT73DFNysMY.html
@darklordsauron398
@darklordsauron398 5 лет назад
Nice video sir,next could you create a video about the vampire lady thuringwethil?
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 5 лет назад
Dark Lord Sauron I like it! I mentioned her in my Beren and Luthien video, but i'll make her the focus of a video.
@darklordsauron398
@darklordsauron398 5 лет назад
@@DorkLords thank you prefessor I hope she will be in the next
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 5 лет назад
Dark Lord Sauron Voila! As thou didst request, Dark Lord Sauron: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sXhpdA9TgrQ.html
@dragonhelmofdor-lomin4017
@dragonhelmofdor-lomin4017 3 года назад
Tolkien has been criticized for lacking female characters in his stories, but at least he didn't treat them as Damsels in Distress or overpowered Mary Sues like Rey in Star Wars.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
Researching Galadriel for my video series showed me just how complex that character is.
@dragonhelmofdor-lomin4017
@dragonhelmofdor-lomin4017 3 года назад
@@DorkLords She has far more in common with female characters from Greek and Arthurian legends than she does to any modern Mary Sues.
@timhutzler9441
@timhutzler9441 3 года назад
Would you like to discuss a couple of topics that I have not seen discussed? Feel free to email me, if you are.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
Sounds great! If it's easier, you can write me on twitter @mattreiss.
@timhutzler9441
@timhutzler9441 3 года назад
​@@DorkLords Umm. I don't do Twitter. How about Hangouts or Skype?
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
@@timhutzler9441 No worries - you can email me at matt.reiss@yahoo.com.
@SW-fn7cl
@SW-fn7cl 3 года назад
Great stuff 👏
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
Thanks so much for the kind words, Sam!
@remlenomis
@remlenomis 2 года назад
Does the continuation of the name from the Haladin to the Rohirrim suggest that the latter peoples came from the former house? However, the Rohirrim were blonde, while it was the House of Gador that were blonde in the first age. The House of Beor were dark-haired, so I'd guess (I can't remember) the House of Hald were brown-haired. I agree that the Lady Haleth was an echo of Boudica. A taste for matriarchy survives still in the imagination of we Britons, from Queen Elizabeth I to our current monarch and the Iron Lady herself (the monstrous Thatcher), antithetical to the more macho American mind, as we saw with the failure of the equally monstrous Clinton (H) to beat the least-likely Republican candidate in a history of unlikely Republican Presidents. Another female character you might want to consider, and Tolkien's censorial response to feminism, is Erendis, the wife of Aldarion, King of Numenor. Queen Beruthiel also, another feminist. I don't think Tolkien was as uninterested in women as the pre-pubescent woke-critics of today affirm. His letters to his sons are a mine of wisdom on the relations between the sexes, albeit always from the position that we live in a 'fallen world' (which is Catholics' explanation for why relations between the sexes are such a 'gard-darn' mess, as I believe you Yankies say). Keep up the good work, O Dorklord. May your lore never fade!
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 2 года назад
Hail to thee, Remle! I don't think the Rohirrim were related to the Haladin, though their antagonistic neighbors, the Dunlendings, shared a common ancestry with the Haladin. I've done a video about Beruthiel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MIPo538IGjA.html And I've discussed Erendis at times, but I really should do a video focusing on Erendis and Aldarion - The Mariner's Wife is unique among Tolkien's works - their relationship is really complex. The story feels more grounded, and less mythological.
@Dragonbro91_
@Dragonbro91_ 3 года назад
you realy down played the defense let alone the twin brother oh he died right after the father...
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
Good point - I was focusing on Haleth, but the valiant deaths of her family certainly were the inspiration for her choices throughout the rest of her life.
@Dragonbro91_
@Dragonbro91_ 3 года назад
@@DorkLords ta be fair ive only read half of the unfinished tales so far so i didnt know alot about her future but the twins tale in the silmarilion was so deep for them it just felt like a disservice to the brother.
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
@@Dragonbro91_ True - twins do seem to have special significance in Tolkien's works. All hail Haldar!
@Dragonbro91_
@Dragonbro91_ 3 года назад
@@DorkLords ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qpoc6D6wNfE.html
@DorkLords
@DorkLords 3 года назад
@@Dragonbro91_ I like it - The Fight of the Haladin!
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