Can we appreciate that in the cutscene of meeting Godfrey, we can see that he has the guidance of grace pointing towards the tarnished, showing that he is the tarnished Hoarah Loux and we are the boss in his way.
It's such an epic detail, and also shows that we are puppets of the Greater Will if we listen to the guidance of grace. It doesn't care who takes place as consort, just that someone worthy does. What I don't understand is why the Grace points him to us, yet won't let anyone in until the tree is burned? It seems counterintuitive
@@LSB44446 the exact entity blocking you from entering the tree is actually radagon, as seen by his unique cross pattern rune design on the tree's seal blocking entry. The bigger question is why does Radagon, a devotee of the golden order not follow it's direction and instead choose to block you out?
@@markiekunplays I read this theory that Marika split off the part of her which is unconditionally loyal to the elden ring and that became radagon. That's why radagon tries to repair the ring after Marika destroys it, and when you confront Marika he takes over to fight you. Also explains why he seduced rennala and left her suddenly.
@@ligmafigma9631 yeah but the thing is we know that the greater will itself actually wants us to get there to possibly mend the ring and become elden lord, which means that if radagon was completely loyal to the greater will, he would heed its wishes and allow us in to mend it especially after we had just shown we are worthy after fighting Godfrey, another worthy of becoming elden lord.
@@markiekunplays Its Marika who wants us to become elden lord and and free her from her captivity. That is why all the cool shit is Marika statues and Churches of Marika and guidance of grace. Two fingers, Elden beast etc. has lost contact with greater will, its no longer there doing anything.
Radahn is the most tragic yet wholesome characters in this game. Spent years of his life to learn gravity magic, first to still be able to ride on his horse and as a secondary effect protecting the world from the horrors of the stars. Protecting us and his horse even after his corruption from rot turned him into a monstrous beast, only to lose control of the stars when he falls in battle for the very last time, A beautiful gigachad giving us a new definition of never giving up.
Radahn invaded Lyndell, you know. The most important place in the lands between and failed then started attacking his siblings for great runes which means he valued power over family. Do not think he is innocent for a second.
@@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames not only that but he literally hasn't done ANYTHING to help Renalla and her condition, unlike her two other kids. And even worse? He valued his allegiance to the Golden Order and the Greater Will more than his own family and and the things vital to their faith and dynasty - Renalla and her astrological ancestors were guided by the stars and their movement is quite literally responsible for their fate. So by halting their movement, he pretty much left his family unable to follow their destiny, leading to stagnation. He is just an ignorant, self absorbed, blindly faithful fool that was just lucky enough to be born to two demigods/gods.
The entire family is so tragic, even Marika. She shattered the Elden Ring because she was angered with the Greater Will in the end, and her sending Godfrey away might have already been a sign of that since SHE took his grace, not necessarily the Greater Will. Her first son is murdered, her second and third Omen children were cast out (we don't know if she chose to cast them out or if it was part of the Greater Will and contributed to her anger against it). Radagon, who is part of her regardless of how they started, fell in love and had children, and he had to leave Rennala for Marika, and it's unknown whether either of the two halves of them actually wanted this. Clearly he loved Rennala, even gifted her a Great Rune (which is no small thing since it gives her such power over the world). Marika made their children demigods, whether out of necessity or whether she shared the feelings of love that Radagon had for their children, it's unknown. Then every single one of those demigods fell to ruin too, except maybe Ranni. Rykard for (justifiably) being against the Greater Will, Radahn for fighting his sister FOR the Greater Will. And then you get Miquella and Malenia, both of whom were cursed from the start. Miquella wanted to make a new and fairer world but was kidnapped by his brother Mohg before he could complete his own Haligtree, and Malenia was left alone to rot away. I guess it's not that strange they saw misfortune though. The fact that Radagon made VOWS in the Church of vows to honour Rennala then abandoned her... like the wise turtle pope said, breaking vows can lead to misfortune. And not only did Radagon break his vow to Rennala, before that Marika seems to have broken her vow to Godfrey.
@@tinnasell4161 it's unknown. Everyone has their own theories and mine have changed over time. They were definitely separate in mind and motivation at certain points, especially because Marika wanted to destroy the Elden Ring and Radagon wanted to repair it. Three major theories are 1) Radagon was separate from Marika until they got married and fused 2) Radagon and Marika have always been the same person and hiding it, but the Greater Will mind controlled one or both of them at certain points (to explain their differences in views) 3) Radagon separated from Marika / was made from her somehow (think Adam and Eve and the rib) and was his own person for a while but when he was called back by the Greater Will he had to re-fuse to her, but because they were so distinct the fusing was imperfect
@@mrrd4444 I imagine it was number three cause Miquella and Malenia can be seen as the IRL effects an incestual breeding can have on children. Miquella=stunted growth and Malenia=weak or non-existent immune system.
@@nenshoufox forgive me if I’m mistaken but I don’t think it was malenia’s immune system that failed, wasn’t whe cursed by an outer god or smth? I’m pretty sure that’s why she wears pure gold armor since pure gold is supposed to stop the meddling of outer gods and that’s why it slowed down the rot spreading through her. Also her 2nd phase wouldn’t be a thing if it was just a disease.
We need a time traveling dlc where we go back and interact with the Lands Between in its prime! Imagine seeing all the demigods in their prime, a live and well Marika and Radagon, Ranni before she left her body, Meeting Godwyn before the assassination, Radahn when he was learning gravity magic for his horse, and having the ability to side with whoever you wanted! Obviously wishful thinking on my part but I just want to see the Lands Between in its prime
That would be amazing, but it always seems that Fromsoftware has their stories take place after some major event, maybe one day we'll get to see a story or even a boss in their prime!
@@ZeeVoke Yeah that’s true, it takes place after everything has happened which is part of the way they feed us lore but man it would be nice to interact with prime lands between and become a part of the lore lol
I dont think that gonna happened,because the world of ER is massive and its gonna take a lot of time and effort in doin so,but that would be pretty cool if that how the dlc turned out.
Yeah, no chance FromSoft would make that kind of game. It'd be even less likely that it'd go well since FromSoft are great at world-building but don't have too much practice and player interactive dialogue. Perhaps something like a telltale spinoff could explore that?
it even says this in his remembrance "Though born one of the graceless Omen, Morgott took it upon himself to become the Erdtree's protector. He loved not in return, for he was never loved, but nevertheless, love it he did." His story's pretty sad ngl
I’d also like the mention that I personally believe Mohg didn’t steal Miquella during the Malenia and Radahn fight. I think she started the fight because she thought Radahn had stolen Miquella. This is why she fights him in the Caelid Dunes because it’s one level above where Miquella is actually being held, in Mohogywn Palace.
In my opinion, Malenia went to Caelid to fight Radahn since he was dangerous to Miquella's plans of a land free of the influence of Outer Gods. Radahn was a huge fanboy of the Golden Order and wanted to become Elden Lord (he even besieged Leyndell) so he had to be eliminated, which also explains why Malenia, an honourable swordswoman, resorted to ultra AIDS to make sure Radahn would either die or become "inactive".
@@filippogrimaldi7228 There is also the fact that Radahn holding the stars in place was interfering with the growth of the haligtree, which seems like the most likely motive to me
@Callus Linde The reason why she's still hanging around the Halligtree, is because she still doesn't know that Miquella isn't actually there and was stolen away to Mohgwyn Palace.
@@filippogrimaldi7228 He was repelled from the Capital by Morgott and returned to his domain. We don't know if he was as devoted to the Golden Order like his father was due to him abandoning Rennala. But he worshipped Godfrey. It makes me wonder how he felt about Godfrey being driven from the Lands Between.
I hate fighting Godfrey. I realize it's necessary to advance the plot but he and his son Morgott are such incredibly sympathetic characters I wish we all could've been bros instead. And that's to say nothing of Radahn....
@@talkingmudcrab718 I KNOW, RIGHT?! Morgott seems like the kinda guy you could reason with. Like, screw becoming Elden Lord. I don't want none of that. I just want to be bros.
Out of everyone in this story Finlay is mad underrated he walked from caelid all the way to the Haligtree (which for us player is the farthest distance to travel) which he walked while carrying malenia and fighting of enemies on the way. Mad respect (you can get him as an spirit summon too)
I just really love how every major boss in this game is a shadow of their former self, with half the Demi-gods driven insane in some way or another. Even Marika and Radagon had a brutal fall from grace. The Lands Between are so ruthless and it’s a big reason I love the lore of this game. Everything feels so tragic.
That's most of the Fromsoft games. Always a consistent thematic of a once great champions and heroes falling to ruin, their dominions crumbled and dilapidated. One exception to this is Bloodborne, which depicts a regular world corrupted by a rotten lust for knowledge, if I've understood the story correctly.
Ranni has blue hair which is distinctively different from both Radagon/Marika and Rennala so I think she might be born from something else entirely, My theory is the Moon itself gave birth to her through Rennala's body which explains why she has a deeper connection with it than anybody.
Some additional lore for ranni: she gives dialogue during her quest saying she’s no longer an empyrean after casting away her body and blaidd was gifted to her by the two fingers as her shadow (just like marika and maliketh) when she abandoned the two fingers blaidd stayed with her and the baleful shadow is an assassin created by the two fingers. Only the three empyreans can succeed marika: ranni, melania, and miquella. Empyreans are chosen vassal by the two fingers. (Ranni also said that)
but then, who is Miquella's and Melania's shadows? or are they both each other shadows? Tho aren't wolves supposed to be shadows? I don't remember any wolves related to them
@@loonzoldick that is a very good question 🤔 wish I had an answer. I don’t remember anything in the game even referencing a shadow for them. Hopefully we get answers lol
@@loonzoldick In my humble opinion I think they left to their own quests before even getting one. For example, Malenia and her sword master and Miquella with the unalloyed gold. There's a mention that Radagon gave Miquella an incantion as a gift, but since it would not anything to cure his sister, Miquella left the Golden Order in search for a cure to his sister. Also, at the cutscene before fighting Morgott he says "all willful traitors", or something like that. Miquella and Malenia are included lol. Wish we could know more
@@loonzoldick I subconsciously feel like since Ranni had to "ascend" to become demi god but the twins were born god's, Rot and Eternal youth maybe possibly the same thing in a sense? Like outer gods beat the greater will to it
The information about Godfrey is a bit unclear imo. It should say that he's always been Hoarah Loux, but took upon the name of Godfrey when he became the First Elden Lord and cast his vengeful animal spirit on his back. Also, the "sparks in his eyes fading" refers to Grace leaving him.
@@thisisfyne it was because he no longer served any purpose, the enemies of the erdtree were defeated. She wanted him and the tarnished to go to a far off land, struggle, and eventually die. You can see at the start Godfrey dead and crucified, but he was resurrected and given back grace just like the player character. So yeah he was most likely was exiled in favor of Radagon after he served his purpose, only returning when he was needed again.
@@Warigami I believe you're thinking of Godwyn- the son of Godfrey and Marika. Godwyn was the one who died in the opening cinematic. In the opening, you can also see Horah Loux among all the tarnished mentioned- which makes sense, since he is the father of all Tarnished, and this was his original name becoming Godfrey. Sir Gideon Ofnir also states "Queen Marika has high hopes for us... that we continue to struggle onto eternity." It's likely that Godfrey already knew that Marika would cast him away temporarily, only to someday return stronger and reclaim the Elden Ring. Either way, Godfrey ends up still being a tool of Marika, as you stated.
@@isaach4296 I am pretty sure he is referring to the tarnished intro at the start of the game (which includes the player character) where 6 individuals were revived through being granted grace, one of which being Horoah Loux shown crucified with a hovering grace nearby, implying he was revived since the others grace-granted tarnished had pretty similar circumstances with the same hovering grace present (like Gideon who was buried).
The name Margit is actually clever imo. Morgott was known as the veiled king, and a cut NPC's dialogue hints that no one actually ever sees their leader Morgott. He was able to freely fight on the frontlines as Margit and it didnt matter if people saw him with that moniker, because no one ever saw Morgott.
Me too. I just figured it's the higher god, the Greater Will, decided to give the middle finger to the other gods in a fit of pique and sent the dominoes rolling which is why Ranni wanted to leave and make her own path.
When Malenia spread her scarlet rot on to Rhadan, the mist spread all of Caelid that's why its rotten and decaying. You can confirm this with and NPC soul beside a grace over looking place.
I don't believe that the Grace "left" Godfrey. Going by some of the things said by Melena, it sound more like Marika took the Grace from him and "banished" him because she knew something was going to happen and she wanted him and his followers to be kind of a back up plan if things in the Lands Between went nuts(which they did).
Just wanted to mention that Rhadhans feet weren’t Rotted away, but instead they were slowly carved away by the amount of time he spent dragging them in the desert.
I really hate I couldn't talk to Maliketh or Rhadan. Rhadan sounds like he wouldve been pretty chill like Ranni if not for the scarlet rot. And Maliketh just wanted to help his half sister
I'd imagine Rykard was more partial to Ranni growing up, if a tad distant, sharing their distaste for the Greater Will. The quieter, older brother who you manage to always share an interest with. Radahn on the other hand, I would imagine to have been more "close" with Ranni, even if the two lead different lives. The loud and boisterous sibling who you're close with, but differ in many aspects.
Not mentioned in this video Renalla was the queen of the Full Moon, thus the Full Moon in the sky. Ranni was the Dark Moon in the sky, both visible from the last area of Ranni's quest. Ranni's attire was inspired by a sort of mentor when she was younger, and Blaidd is to Ranni as Maliketh is to Marika, a shadow to the Empyrean born under the golden order. One detail not made clear is at what point the sun might be involved with anything, as we see it is even conceptualized and recognized into the game. We see ghosts reference the sun, and even Dung Eater's armor reference the sun in relations to an order he supposedly once believed in, further expressed symbolism in the rings of it in the description.
There is castle Sol which is a whole big reference to the sun. What I find more interesting is how Sellen fits into all of this. Sellen is just another name for Selena - the greek goddess of the moon. In FromSoft games there is nothing like a coincidence.
@@RobOngrui that's actually where the ghost references the sun I mentioned. He mentioned they couldn't block out the sun for Miquella. For whatever reason they might've wanted to. Considering the Haligtree was supposed to be an Erdtree of not the golden order, idk if that implies the sun belongs to the Golden Order or not.
The Sun brings true death. The Frenzied Flame ending is basically the power of the sun conceptualised on earth. If we take Rannis power as the moon, her opposite half, Malenia would be the power of the sun as the Gloam eyed Queen. All her followers, the godskin would use black fire and have fire as their power. Makes sense that the Dung eater references the sun since it has the power to burn everything and is the opposite to the moon. The fact that the Erd tree burns only with the power of the rune of death, there must be some sort of connection there.
I'd say most symbolism with the sun isn't really there is because the Erdtree kinda acts as the sun instead, at least thematically. Irl, most cultures that worship the sun or gods related to the sun worship it in similar ways to the inhabitants of the lands between do for The Erdtree and Marika.
The thing about feeding maliketh the death root is that the death root is the rune of death after the black knives were done with it. It spread out and popped out as deathroot
Falling star beasts are actually weaker versions of astel, or atleast his species. If you take a peek inside the model, you can actually see the same skull astel has slowly growing inside the fallingstar beasts.
Can someone tell me where it's stated that Empyreans are born from a single god? I just thought that Empyreans are chosen by the Greater Will to become Marika's successors.
It says it at some point but I can’t remember tbh.., but my guess is it has more to do with being chosen, and maybe being born of a single god (melenia and miquella were born of a single god in radagon and marika and are empyreans) automatically has you been chosen? Not sure. What I want to know and see is melenia and miquellas shadows, as we have only seen blaidd and maliketh
This is actually quite debated by the community. The description remembrance of the Rot Goddess states "Miquella and Malenia are *both the children of a single god. As such they are both Empyreans, but suffered afflictions from birth. One was cursed with eternal childhood, and the other harbored rot within." Also there is the dialogue from Gowry, Millicents Father that says: "Queen Marika and her King Consort Radagon were blessed with twin demigods, and Malenia was one of them. She was born an Empyrean, carrying the scarlet rot." As Ranni, we know her being the daughter of Radagon and Rennala she can't be an Empyrean, also we don't know the origins behind the other two Empyreans that we know about, Marika and the Dusk Eyed Queen. If you follow the logic behind the description and the dialogue someone may assume they mean *exclusively* people born from one god can be an Empyrean. That isn't stated here. It is only said they are automatically Empyreans *because* they are born from one single god. We know that every Empyrean is chosen by and Outer God (not only the Greater WIll as you've commented) but it doesn't mean that any child can be chosen to become one. The other side of the debate can also argue that Ranni was not Rennala's true daughter but Radagon gave it to her as a 'gift' in the Great Rune of the Unborn and Marika and The Dusk Eyed Queeb were both also somehow born by a single god However it could seem to be quite forced this theory. This is as far as we know and can discuss, there are no much information about it. We have to wait maybe for future DLCs
@@kira6353 Is it possible that the fact that Malenia and Miquella are born from a single god (Marika/Radagon) has nothing to do with being Empyreans at all? The wording of that item description seems like it could mean that having a single godly parent caused them to be born with their afflictions. The whole "children of a single god" thing could be referring to their afflictions, and not to their status as Empyreans.
Them being altogether a family shows where GRRM's world building is at. Definitely sounds like something he'd do Loved this, you transitioned so smoothly between each boss as well
Surprisingly, not as much as dark souls. It is actually not very deep, all things considered. Frankly, the only truly deep lore in the game has yet to be covered, and I hope the DLC wraps it up big time. The outer gods being fleshed out more, and the star lore being delved into. Without those two things, there really isn't that much going on apart from a family falling out as they try to go for power (shards) after their "mother/grandmother" shatters the elden ring in a reaction over her son's death. The entire story is just marika having told her kids to do what they want to do, but make sure you do 'something'. Then when one dies, she takes a drastic measure and leaves it up to some kind of fate. Meanwhile, all other outer gods apart from the greater will seem to be absent, at least until you force malenia into phase 2 and is seemingly used as a vessel by one (for no reason?).
It's been puzzling me how Radagon and Merika are the "same person". My best theory is that when Radagon left Rennala and journey to become second lord , the elder beast transferred from Merika to Radagon using him as a new host to safeguard against Merikas soon-to-be emprisonment (presuming the Greater Will had foresight of this) within the Erd tree.... so it's not so much that Merika = Radagon , but more that everything Merika once was (curtesy of the beast/greater will) is now "one with" it's new host Radagon. Thus perhaps could tie the loose end of Radagon leaving Rennala question ...he left because he was destined to become the beasts new host and "marry" (join together/become one with) Merika to fulfill a sort of higher belief prophetic task.
Radagon and Marika are the same entity. Radagon is the embodiment of the the faith of Marika to the Greater Will, Marika would then eventually divide herself into two entities because the golden order needed a champion to fight the Carians. It also makes sense for Marika to shatter the Elden Ring because she started having doubts about the Golden Order. Side note: Malenia and Miquella are born out of selfcest? Lol.
Radahns objective against the stars Is pretty unclear But i think that his father/Marika tasked him to do so, in order to stop the possible Anger of the GW that, we know, shoots meteors and stars against its enemies
i have always interpreted as that either he did it because he could, or that he heard rennala and ranni or ranni and rykard talking about rannis destiny and wanted to impede the age of the stars from happening being that he idolized godfrey
I think this is what it is. Similar to his brother Rykard and sister Ranni, he opposes the golden order. The golden order doesn't tolerate disobedience and punishes it harshly (as evidenced by the crucifixes with screaming burned people aloft, in the same shape as the imprisoning rune that holds Marika in the erdtree and appears to be part of the elden ring). Astel is thought to be one of the punishments dished out to Nokstella for the crime of worshipping the night (which is the same trespass that Rennala made which sparked the battle between her (raya lucaria) and Radagon (golden order)). This makes sense because when you kill Radahn, one of the stars that falls lands directly on top of Nokron (another night worshipping civilization) tearing a hole through Mistwood. Basically, the greater will is tryna throw stars at people and Radahn is protecting them even through his madness, literally so powerful that through madness he is still holding all the stars in place with gravity magic directly opposing the greater will. If he wasn't doing that, we wouldn't stand a chance against him in the fight, he's too stronk but using most of his strength to protecc. Radagon and Rennala made some wild kids, but you already know Ranni is my favorite even tho I really do like Radahn. ;) I still feel like I don't really understand why Malenia was fighting Radahn in the first place, please share if you have an idea.
@@ohokcool doesnt have any sense, nothing implyies even remotely that radhan its agains the greater will Also.astel its not confirmed to be sent by thd greater will, thats the interpretation of lots of people but there is a theory that astel was made by the nox of the nameless eternal city
@@Necrotaku999 I love how you put down his/her theory and promote another that has zero evidence to it, while his/her theory is actually pretty viable.
Only reason beast clergyman is still alive is so that you don't miss out on the incants he gives you. Same thing happens with Yura so you don't miss his quest, you can find Shabriri and Yura simultaneously if you don't do Yura's quest before heading to mountaintop. It's nice that they prioritized not locking people out of content as opposed to strictly adhering to the plot, I never do things in the right order lol.
It would be cool if they had Miquella in a future dlc I think it has a lot of potential as there is apparently a lot of cut content including multiple questlines
Only issue really being that he would have no goal anymore. Unless his godhood allows him to bring people back from the dead (like his sister). He seemed single minded and did not appear to be altruistic apart from wanting to cure malenia. So unless his goal is to destroy the world in revenge (which would seem out of character), it wouldn't make too much sense to arbitrarily revive a powerful being like that. With that said, I honestly can't think of anything else the DLC could be anyway lol
This is brilliant. You explained everything so efficiently and DIRECT to the point. Other RU-vidrs will throw mountains of unnecessary speech at you, overcomplicating everything..
@@2paktolife Me too. His video was literally just random gibberish for 30+ minutes that explained squat. Just another views desperate channel that one.
What you claimed to be "Malenia's 2nd bloom" wasn't her bloom at all. The armor you pick up adjacent to that flower is the same as Millicent's, and there were several others like Millicent. The bloom prior to Malenia's fight is the bloom of one of these other girls that came prior. Malenia has yet to bloom a third time.
I hope we get to see more of the Outer Gods in whatever Elden Ring DLC comes out. Maybe even encounter and fight them like we did the manifestation of the Greater Will, manifestations of the god of the Frenzied Flame, The Blood Star, God of the Deathbirds, God of the scarlet rot seal, Dark Moon god, maybe even whatever god seems to control the rebirth of certain people within Elden ring.
I’ve been looking for a lore video for a while and I’ve found some that are up to 8 hours long, watched them and still felt like I had no idea what they were talking about. This is by far the best lore video I’ve seen. I just want to know the lore of the characters I’m meeting not hear some wild backstory without giving me an explanation for dummies first. Great video thank you.
Other Games: "You killed their parents. You monster" Player: "Oh no. What have i become? What monster am i?" Destiny and SoulsBorne: "You killed their parents. Here's the location of their siblings" Player: "I will use his father as a weapon to kill him. Maybe his mother as well."
Even though the video is focused on the *bosses,* since it deals so much with Marila's family tree, it seems incomplete without at least a mention of Melina, who straight up calls Marika her mother mother.
You are just wrong about 1 point, Godfrey did not turn to horah loux after he became a tarnished he was horah loux from the beginning and became Godfrey to surpress his wild fighting lust and being able to marry Marika to be Elden lord. He was so strong that even his surpressed form was strong enough to win every battle. After becoming tarnished because there was no one to fight for him anymore and therefore being exiled by Marika and the greater will the fight against our game character is actually the first time that he takes of his Godfrey persona through killing the spirit lion on his back to become his old self horah loux again. That’s also why he is saying thank you to the spirit lion before taking his head off cause he was doing his „job“ for all the years surpressing him.
I'm too cowardly to play From Software games (apart from Bloodbourne, which I haven't yet finished) but I love the lore. So thank you, my friend for supplying excellent videos like this to get my teeth into as, complicated as it may be, I love the depth and intricacies involved and without superb videos as these, I'd simply have no idea what was going on!? So, once again, thank you for your hard work and research that enlighten me fully to what From is doing story wise and the minutae and subtlety of their story telling. Much love ❤
forgive me if im incorrect and misguided but how has no one seemingly mentioned the idea that the albinaurics are potentially just failed products of Rennala's obsession with rebirth? their village is found right next to reya lucaria and albinaurics are all over lakes of liurnia, the girls surrounding her in the boss fight cant walk, much like the first gen albinaurics, surely someones mentioned this and it might already be in the game lore idk
I just now realized that Marika must have ripped into her own body to shatter the ring since it’s inside her.. That explains the massive chunks missing from her chest and stomach area where you can see it. How else would she have broken it? That’s brutal.
Ok it is insane how good this video essay is!! I have watched so many but they are either short individual bits in specific characters which doesn’t help with understanding how they fit into the lore ~ or it’s a dramatic retelling of item descriptions. This is very details from beginning to end and I truly appreciate the work you put into it! I plan to share it everywhere! I look forward to more of these! Maybe about some of the side bosses or NPC’s! ♥️
A vassal is actually someone who owns land for someone else. That’s why the Elden beast is a vassal because it’s holding the land between a for the higher gods
I think we can drop the "born from a single God" part to being an Empyrean. There's plenty of evidence that's not the case and lots of other channels have covered why already. Empyrean just means you have certain qualities about you that causes you to be chosen by your own Two Fingers as a candadite for the next God, and are therefore assigned a shadow and all that other jazz. Furthermore, the bloom near the boss fight with Malenia is NOT one of hers. It's one of Millicent's sisters. Her bloom during the battle is only the 2nd. She leaves behind one like this after you kill her and go back to her boss room, but it's bigger.
The bloom near the boss fight is not from one of Millicent's sisters, they are unable to bloom according to the talisman "Rotten Winged Sword Insignia". It's not completely clear if the third bloom happens when we fight her or not.
@@GiustiNacho the incantation you get from the rememberance states she has bloomed twice. As in the past. Seems clear to me. Even if that's true about it not being Millicent related, the bloom is not Malenia's. She's been sleeping in the exact spot we find her since she was literally carried there unconscious by a Cleanrot Knight immediately after her fight with Radahn during the Shattering War. But it's heavily implied by Gowry that he's helping her (Millicent) and her sisters bloom, and if you finish her quest she says she'd rather die than turn into something she isn't, with further implications that he's done this to one before her.
@@GiustiNacho you find the attire that the valkyries wear inside the flower, the flowers seem to be part of the body, nowhere before its a flower seeing left behind, there is no flower in caelid, malenia demanifest her bloom after using it, malenia's bloom its bigger, while if you finish milicent questline she blooms into a scarlet aeonia the same exact size as the one before malenia bossroom, and malenia its still alive, the incantation description says clearly she has bloomed twice already when she blooms again she will become a true goddess, which implies she is not completely ascended yet and the talisman description its the first time i have heard using it for this argument, i feel that is more metaforical, where are they? they only appear as phantoms invading millicent, but i feel its pretty telling that when mallenia in her second phases uses the phantoms made out of butterflies they are 4 of those phantoms, like the 4 sisters that became valkyries i think gowry intended more for them, like maybe blooming more than once and becoming something similar to malenia, but when they saw they couldnt bloom, they somehow manage to merge and bloom a single scarlet aeonia and got absorbed by the rot it would have more logic that the incantation prhasing its wrong and the flower ignores all previous details that are consistent between all other blooms
@@clfoster82 i find it quite telling that if you come back to where millicent was i dont know after which one of the choices she its gone and there is a scarlet aeonia the exact same size as the one before malenia bossroom
That really annoys me... Why would her rememberance refer to her 3rd bloom not having happened yet, when it has? And I think we can assume the bloom would stay on her body til disappearing. Leaving a flower off her back on the ground makes no sense to me. I think she bloomed during Radahn's fight, and lost conciousness, possibly until we fight her. Then she blooms twice. When she blooms the third time is what I'm afraid of, see as potential DLC, and such. Like Miquella's body, and Mohg stating his Dynasty will rise as he's killed. Scary
Just like to add that I don't believe Malenia has bloomed three times already. I mean, it's a little weird that one of her blooms would just go unnoticed in a side room near her arena, and also, I don't think we can take the "petrified" Scarlet Aeonia as a register of a bloom, since if that was the case, there should be one in Caelid. Considering that thing is what remains when you defeat Malenia, but also when you choose to betray Millicent, I find way more likely to just be another one of Millicent's kin, a Rot Bud, a going-to-be Scarlet Valkyrie, and not the register of Malenia's second bloom.
It’s crazy how the characters are deeply inflicted with rot while on the other hand there’s you curing it with a simple boluses or flame cleanse me lool 😂
Radagon and marika reminds me of the Anima and the animus, separate and opposite in nature yet both related to form the union 'Syzygy' - in astronomy its a conjunction or opposition, especially of the Moon with the Sun.
I don’t think Malenia has hit her 3rd bloom yet. Her 1st bloom ofc, is during her fight with Radahn. Her second bloom is during her fight with us. My belief is that during her second bloom, the traits of the Rot Goddess show up on her body. The bloom outside of her boss room is most likely the bloom of a Valkyrie, like Millicent. This is supported by the fact that if the bloom is much smaller than both the one in our fight with her, and during her fight with Radahn (in the cutscene). This along with the fact that you find the Travelers clothing next to it, which is what both Millicent and her Sisters are wearing, shoes it definitely was not Malenia’s Aeonia outside of her boss room.
And now we know that she also gave birth to Messmer while with Radagon, and Miquella used Mohg as a pawn to get to the Land of Shadows so he could force Radahn’s soul to join him when he ascended to Godhood.
If you watch the intro video and go through Regier’s words, you’ll hear that “the shattering” was the wars that ensued after the ring was shattered. Strange if the to use the same word. But the war shattered the lands between, a war from which no lord arose.
There's remembrances that aren't from family members. The fire giant, Placidusax, Fortissax, Regal Ancestor, Astel, Elden Beast. Then Rennala and Godfrey are only related by marriage, and Maliketh may or may not be her brother of some sort. Also Empyreans don't meed to be born from one god, Ranni is also an Empyrean. The reason they mention being born of one god in Melenian's remembrance is to emphasis that's the reason they were born afflicted, the Japanese translation puts emphasis on that part. The US translation is a bit misleading. Belive the Gloam Eyed Queen was one too
@@bynosaurus4024 "the main theory" in the meantime they state that she's Rykard's and Radhan's sister. The born of one God thing is just to explain why the twins are diseased
1:29 I'm still somewhat conflicted over Ranni's parentage. Mostly because, at least with my exposure to the lore. Miquella and Malenia were empyreans because they were born from 1 god. AKA Radagon and Marika fused together. However Ranni is a empyrean? And the only one among her siblings? Something there seems suspect. EIther Ranni's parentage is in question or there's more to the 'becoming a empyrean' then descending from a singular god.
An empyrean is someone that seems worthy to become a god in the eyes of the greater will it has nothing to do with being born from a single god. With that logic marika could never have been an empyrean
Reason why I’m doubtful is Cus Radahn Ranni and Rykard were always considered demigods with Ranni even being considered an Empyrean. If Radagon was just a random champion like Miriel the turtle pope implied, why were his children considered Demi Gods before he became fused with Marika. Ranni and Radahn especially seem too powerful to just be children of two regular humans.
@@kobragaming9420 The lore explicitly states that the empyreans were "chosen" by the Greater Will/Two Fingers. They didn't start off as demi-gods. I have my own crackpot theory that the "Greater Will" and other Outer Gods are in fact powerful AI that are all vying for control of the Erdtree that is actually some sort of ultra powerful super computer paired with some sort of matter/reality altering machine that everyone is using to power themselves. I am inspired by the Arthur C. Clarke quote: _“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”_
@@talkingmudcrab718 the Erdtree only came to be after the greater will hijacked the crucible so what’s more likely is the crucible is this powerful primordial energy that every outer God is vying for control over and the Erdtree and Elden ring were a way for The greater to impose control over the crucible by stealing it and using its energy to create the Erdtree
@@kobragaming9420 The Erdtree was "built" over something called "The Great Tree." I assume using it asa power source. The Erdtree itself is something that was made and therefore a man made object. Again I think it's highly likely it's some sort of super computer, matter collider, or a combination thereof that produces the "magic" and "deities" we encounter in the game. The Primordial Crucible I think is just a fancy term for biology and natural life. Playing with this Crucible created mutations like Misbegotten, Omens, and Demi-Humans. The stories of the Crucible came first because I believe it is what was necessary for the humans of this world to gain the ability to create the Erdtree. It's also possible that one of the Outer Gods like the Greater Will used the Crucible on humans to enact all of this to begin with.
Do you think the ancestral spirits have a hand in the omens? It’s a far fetch but how many creatures actually have horns like the Minotaur-like enemies we find in nokron?
1:48. while I have no direct PROOF, i think that Radagon and Marika were separate but later, the greater will coerced Radagon into fusing with Marika in order to basically trap her in servitude to the greater will. There's some evidence to suggest Marika was beginning to doubt the greater will's purpose and was attempting to defy it. Not to mention evidence that most of Radagon was basically excised from him, IE his rune, his eyes, etc. to act as reinforcement of the greater will's control. It could also be the reason why he's the one we fight before the Elden beast and not marika, as his body is just a extension of their control and they don't want a tarnished interfering with their 'order'
If you use it in a fight against morgott or Margit it will stun him. That's it's main purpose. The revealing hidden walls is an unintended side effect.
0:26 I don’t know why I find it so funny that his goofy little character sprouts out the Elden Stars and how he fallows it with the free cam is just so funny to me
