Bride Staci brings her mum and her mother-in-law to the appointment but the ladies are really close to ruining the day with their very different opinions. Catch Say Yes to the Dress on TLC - Sky 133, Virgin 162, BT TV 323
my boyfriend is jewish both ethically (he’s half Hebrew) and religious and he has 9 tattoos. this lady is crazy. he’s not like crazy crazy religious but he’s the basic jewish man
I have a baby boy and I hope one day that he will get married. I would never ask to attend my future daughter in laws fitting session. I would probably decline if asked. I definitely want to be there for my son’s tux fittings. It may not be as pretty, but it’s something that I can do with him. He can help me pick out my MOTG dress.
I want my mother in law there when I’m trying out :-) She only has boys and she’s the sweetest woman, so ofc I’ll invite her! I know she would just watch and enjoy the day
I just got two different perspectives from the replies on this comment. I guess in general, it all depends on the circumstances and God help those who have to deal with those crossing the line like this mother in law in the video.
RexSixteen that’s so sweet. I’m lucky that I have a niece and I hope to be asked along to go shopping with her. Having said that, if you as my future daughter in law told me why you wanted me along, I would probably come with you. I would however have the good sense to keep my trap firmly shut!
I thought her mother came off as very mean-spirited. The bride to be understood and was willing to cover her tattoo for the wedding. No one asked her to get rid of her tattoo, just to cover it for the wedding. If she couldn't do that compromise, that marriage is going to be an unhappy one. This bride was smart. She received points from her new family. Regardless of what you think, it's both families, not just the bride's. Something as simple as temporarily covering a tattoo is not the end of the world.
Lori is a real Gem. When she said "Look how you blended your family with this. The strap is for your new family, the strapless is for your family and the veil is for all of us because we Love it." Everyone was in tears. You can say what you want but, culture is important 2022 or not. I think this young lady made a very wise decision for Both Families. Blessings to this new bride and Both her families......xoxoxoxo
Unfortunately I'm going to have to disagree. She is not a Jewish girl and should not be expected to be held up to that religion's standards and culture. You can respect religion and opinion without conforming to it. My fiancè's family is very active Mormon. I'm not wearing their modest dresses and standards of clothing when we get married despite the beliefs and feelings of the family. We are our own unit and we make decisions based on us. It doesn't sound like her fiancé asked her to cover. Laying down these boundaries with parents are essential, especially if they are preparing to raise children together with either family being involved in that process.
Irish heritage my arse! Those are four leaf clovers 🍀 not shamrock ☘️. There is nothing Irish about a four leaf clover! It’s as close to a pickle as a shamrock. If your going to get all indignant about “your” culture you’ve got to do your research.
@@neadmc29 take a hike dude. lots of Americans feel disconnected from their ancestors’ cultures and simply want to find out more about where they come from, which is a source of pride for them. the girl can do what she wants 🤦🏼♀️
@@carolynfranklin1447 Yes and that's not how it works, now you can CHOOSE whether to also be converted into the religion but if she doesnt then it doesnt mean the marriage is void. Shes a Christian.
@@reginakniprode246It's not trampling on others. If it's against your religion, don't do it. But that doesn't mean you can expect others to fit what you deem proper. Sorry, honey, but your opinion isn't as important as you think it is.
@@EclecticallyEccentric Are we at the Honey yet? That was fast. It doesn't look like you can stand the attitude of an old black woman in a wedding dress video. Which gives a pretty accurate picture of your values.
In all fairness, in the First Covenant there is Leviticus 19:28 about the tatoos. Not sure how far that is up for interpretation, nor if there is something similar for Muslims. Nor what to do if you already got inked.
Me either. I completely saved up and paid for my dress. I don't have a high paying job either, but I shoveled what I could away. I got a beautiful dress for just over 1000 and still had money left over for alterations. I couldn't imagine taking out a loan for just a dress. Take out a loan for something worth while, like a car or a home.
Absolutely agree. I've seen brides take out huge loans to pay for a 'fairytale' wedding. If they only knew who much it's not worth it. It's a major mistake and having those repayments draining your new marriage, on top of every other new cost, will often taint the memory of the day. Be smart, save up or budget down.
Fr... Usually what happens on the show is a not-your-wedding problem. But in this case it's a not-your-child problem as well. So what she's religious, the bride isn't and she shouldn't be told what to do as an adult. That tat is so small anyways.
Kiraleisha 167 That is a great story & was very intelligent of you to express your values at the beginning. Had you put up with it for awhile & then opposed her, she might have caused a big disruption that could have divided family members! Parenting is similar - you have to start with manners, rules, morals, & values, as soon as it is possible for the child to understand. Parents that are lax for years until there is a major problem in high school, have already lost the battle. It sounds as if you are or are going to be a wonderful mother (if that is what you want).
That bride is so mature for wanting to keep both families happy cause most people would have ignored everyone’s opinions (which is ok) But she decided to make everyone happy what an amazing person
Kk dragon • “I love that the bride’s mother stuck up for her daughter and respected her choice(s).” I agree completely. The tattoo was not done well, but the point is, to the bride, it represents her family’s lineage & culture. It is just as important as the Jewish things that the groom’s family is trying to push on her!
@@starry_yoongs4999 You are way too stupid to be here. I wrote 3 words in my previous comment, I offered no criticism, yet you're telling me to give them a break. So I shouldn't correct them? I'm learning French and would be happy with someone correcting me the way I corrected OP. Stop being a stupid person and grow up. Learning from our mistake is progress, not a hindrance.
It was so phenomenally rude and unnecessary for the MIL to say the tattoo looks like a pickle. What a horrible woman. I hope her son will stick up for his bride during their marriage, otherwise it's going to be a nightmare with that witch in charge.
"I can't do this because of my religion" is religious freedom. "YOU can't do this because of my religion" is rude and infringing on the bride's freedom of religion. Freedom of religion is also freedom FROM religion.
She didn't say that and if the show had anyone there to explain the issue, non-Jewish people would find out that the mother-in-law was actually trying to spare her daughter-in-law from criticism later.
@@juliem.679 The bride clearly just wants to do her thing and not obide to anyone's religious bullshit. Never take shit from people you would never ever ask for advice.
I definitely agree that the mother in-law was being ridiculous with the tattoo, but the fact the bride said, "I'm not picking a dress based upon whether I have a tattoo or not," means so much more. ❤️ Yes, it's covered, but the tattoo isn't important, it's the love between the bride and the groom. And yeah, that sounds cheesy, so what? It's beautiful.
Yes, but she won’t have a good day if all the bride hears is how bad the dress is, getting flack on her wedding dress all day. And whether it’s enjoyable or not, it’s a family dynamic she needs to manage and it’s the consultant’s jobs to make sure she’s happy by making sure they manage her family as well. They achieve letting the woman wear what she wants, and have a good day, by making sure they manage her family’s responses.
@@BarelyNoticeable Of course, which is why the family needs to learn that not everything is about them. If all they are talking about at the wedding is "how bad the dress is", they don't need to come. At the end of the day, loudly complaining about someone else's choices for an event that isn't about you is tacky and disrespectful.
As a bridal consultant, I would have snuffed this fight out in the waiting room by saying, “if covering the tattoo is a requirement, they make make up for that specific purpose. Now let’s move on.”
Lori is truly a magical woman, she always knows how to not only get families to agree but also make the bride feel beautiful & like her wants are more than valid (which a lot of families don’t do).
There’s no reason anyone should have a say in the dress. I mean it’s ridiculous how many mothers and sisters feel so entitled to “their vision” for someone else’s wedding. It just comes off as so narcissistic to think YOUR opinion matters more than what the bride and groom actually want.
My future DIL asked me to come with her when she goes to try on dresses, along with her mom, daughter and future step-daughter. So happy she thought to ask. I just want her to choose a dress that SHE loves and feels great in. She's a wonderful girl.
@@duckyluvsyou335 When I got married, I valued my family's opinion. They might see something I don't, or if I'm between two, knowing which one they think is nicer would help. Because even though the most important is to find a dress that you find beautiful, most brides also care that others find them beautiful as well. (Contrary to what this show portrays, I never had that "this is the one" moment, I made sure to try a ton of dresses and there were many contenders that I was completely in love with). I only brought my mom and my sister though. While I love my friends, their opinion on my wedding dress was not very important to me. I asked my MIL if she wanted to be at my dress appointments but she declined because she didn't want me to feel pressured which I thought was really thoughtful of her :)
@@monkiram If the bride wants her families opinions, that’s great and it’s fine when the family members are polite and respect when the bride loves a dress even if they don’t like it. My point was that families like the ones on this show just make brides feel self conscious, make brides choose dresses they don’t even really want, and so many are just flat out rude and hateful.
@@faitheverard8868 would she be able to get buried there anyway if she's not Jewish? Besides they're getting married in a secular building why would they automatically have to be buried in a Jewish cemetery?
I can say this from experience. If you have a problem with ANYTHING the bride wants DON’T SAY ANYTHING. It’s not YOUR wedding. My mother and family nearly ruined my entire bridal experience from the day I tried on dresses (mother said I looked like a stuffed sausage in casing) to my wedding day when they all thought it was their day instead of mine. Literally didn’t feel like it was my day until I got in the limo with my husband after the ceremony.
Well, you probably DID look like a stuffed sausage in a casing. Do you want a MOTHER who loves you, and cares about how you look? Or polite "yes man" that will tell you what you want to hear.
So proud of Lori. Wow. What a GEM ❤ She doesn't just care about the sale. She actually cares about the well-being of the bride and the groom n their families. Specially on these episode. So proud
@@Wareaglegirl9960 her husband isnt white my love😂 in the black community u dont disrespect our mothers. They wont be allowed to show their faces at any family functions bc EVERYBODY will be talking abt how he allowed his wife to disrespect his mother
@@Wareaglegirl9960 the way yall raise ur kids is completely different. U dont have our culture our morals our struggles etc. A black man and a white man arent the same. U cant act the same way bc its not culturally acceptable.
@@sparklebaby3607just because we don’t have your struggles doesn’t mean we don’t have any and my parents taught us morals and definitely taught us not to be disrespectful to anyone, but if a mother n law is being hateful then the son or daughter needs to step up and talk to them and if they continue then you stand your ground and take up for yourself! That’s not a race thing that’s a human thing. No one should be allowed to disrespect your spouse or in law but no one should continue to take abuse either or let a mother or father n law dictate what you do with your children if they’re being taken care of.
My ex MIL called the preacher and asked what she could provide in the way of food because she didn't think that my mother wouldn't provide enough! Smart preacher, he said to ask my mom. She was Italian and expected sit down meals at weddings. We didn't have that kind of money nor did I want that kind of reception. What she should have been more worried about is making sure her only boy was man enough to be married! He wasn't and 40+ years later still isn't. When it was time to cut the cake, he didn't want to because he 'didn't like cake'. His mom had to come convince him to get up and go do the cake cutting ceremony. It went downhill from there. I wish I knew what kind of MIL to be careful of at that time. I would have never married him.
@@rachelg9873 Her son looked super friendly judging by the photos and the fact the bride is enamoured by him I’m just wondering how he could be her son lmao
I love how she complained about the tattoo and yet had her ears pierced. She literally punctured her skin, "desecrating" her body not just once, but twice.
We don't have to knock the Jewish religion here, the mother in law is at fault. I'm jewish and yes tattoos aren't permitted BUT THE BRIDE ISNT JEWISH. The laws don't apply to her and I honestly think the mother just doesn't like the bride.
THANK YOU! I’m Jewish too and seeing so many people knocking the Jewish religion and culture who don’t know anything about this issue is so frustrating. Especially because there’s a lack of understanding about how Judaism is not equivalent to Christianity (whichever version).
Loved the chosen dress. Such a beautiful bride to be. I really think the softer shade complimented her very fair skin and blonde hair so well. Well done
The Jewish MIL was incredibly rude. As a mom to two sons I felt honored and elated to be included in the wedding dress shopping trips. I loved both bride-to-be’s choices but even if I wouldn’t have, I would have never disrespected THEIR choice of a dress. The second couple taking out a loan for a wedding dress? 😮 I hope they have learned the value of a budget since then 😉
I wonder if the mother in law is making a fuss over the tattoo to cover up her displeasure of him marrying a non Jewish woman. Considering maternal inheritance of Jewishness.
Wow the Mother in law is overstepping. The son obviously knew she had that dang tattoo when he asked her. STACY'S Mom is the MVP for having her daughter's back.
@@PringlesOriginal445 That might be true, but it also seems as if the groom's mother doesn't like the bride because of which she will try to create problems in their married life.
@@killphaser25 I never said that she is a devil, all I meant was that the mother in-law just didn't care about the bride's feelings but she cared about her "tattoo".
For real! If it’s not coming out of your bank account, suck it up, put a smile on your face, and tell your daughter in law she looks beautiful. Don’t ruin the whole experience for her with your nasty attitude and unnecessary comments.
@@leannegibbs1064 it's possible that her hair could be straight due to a hot comb that's not chemically altered and chemically altered is not the same as desecrating when talking about hair
I think what was interesting, is that the bride just wanted to keep from upsetting her mother-in-law , despite how she herself felt, which is commendable. Because in the end, it’s only one day that she “needed” to cover her tattoo, and she was willing to do it. It’s okay to sacrifice for someone else - she was really doing it for her fiancé, because it would help keep the peace with his family, which is soon to be her family. These shows do like to make it seem more dramatic than it probably was, which keeps it interesting.
I’m An Orthodox Jew and this lady’s issue with the Tattoo is utterly ridiculous . The bride is not Jewish therefore Jewish laws do not apply to her at all.
Did the MIL SAY halachah applied to her? No, but the implication is that Jewish guests at the wedding will see the tattoo if the bride chooses a revealing dress and that MIL doesn't want any remarks or controversy at the wedding over it because (this is my inference because nothing actually got spelled out past this remark of hers once they edited the show) it could reflect badly on her son and her family, in general.
In certain religions, a marriage is a religious ceremony. Sometimes, there are certain dress code requirements that one must meet. If a person can't do that, then that person should not marry someone of that religion.
@@KatieBellino Or just accept that the partner is not the same religion why would you let a religion get in the way of who you love, you love them, have so much in common, are loyal to each other, but no you don't follow my religion so we can't marry
@@luiboots8243 If you are devout in a religion, your statement doesn't work. It just doesn't. "Have so much in common"? No, a religious difference is one of the big deal breakers depending on how different your religions are. Religion, politics, and finances are some of the biggest causes of divorce.
People who focus on "winning," or focus on putting difficult people "in their place," or focus on the anger they feel when dealing with poor communicators....never achieve peace in the family. If you want peace, it takes brains, compassion, patience, and a generous spirit, like this bride has.
Lori & Monte are absolutely an amazing team. Outside of helping the the bride find a dress, they do a mind control over the families that Sigmund Freud could've learned a thing or two. I allow the way their "southern charm" can politely check an entourage, i.e. parents, in-laws, brothers, sisters, cousins & friends. I enjoy watching them because with me being in sales, they have taught me many things
If you have to take out a loan to pay for a dress, honey you’re off on a bad foot in your marriage. Ppl who go into debt for a wedding....I don’t understand.
tabs157 you could also consider eloping! I was going to go the courthouse route until I decided I wanted gorgeous pictures. The dress, “venue” (Joshua Tree National Park), officiant, HMUA, and photographer was all less than $4k. Just make sure to do it how you want it with no added stress from other people or finances 😊
I’m catholic and I don’t ever want a tattoo but if others want them great, it makes them happy and I will say they do look really cool and it’s even cooler that a lot of them have special meanings.
I have several tattoos n later read in scriptures were not supposed to tattoo our bodies...so I understand this mother in law completely and Lori picked thee most beautiful dress n said the most beautiful blessn ovr the dress BLESSINGS to all...CONGRATULATIONS!!!
@@laney8599 that mother in law can easily kill your love, that happened to me. I was told in the end son can find another wife but never another Mother. Good luck to all of them. He has same genes as his dear mama
The important thing is for him to respect his wife. If he does, she won't mind about his mother. But if he takes his mother's side against his wife, that'll be the end.
Everyone needs to stay respectful of each other. Lori, how your staff handled these situation respectfully will help steer the bride and the family also.
"Our religion does not like you to desecrate your body." YOUR EARS ARE PIERCED. Putting a new hole in yourself seems a little more "desecrating" to me than getting drawn on.
@mary truhan I think people need to stfu regarding pushing their views/ values on others. Regarding your comment though, piercings do leave scars even when closed up, so I don't see your point in trying to differentiate them from tattoos.
@Mary Truhan idk, my parents pierced my ears when I was like 3 months old and that piercing has never closed. Pretty sure that's part of why they do it so young too
@@pearlobrien5712 jewish people live by the old testament in Leviticus it says that you are not to mark your body. As a Christian I also believe in following this scripture
exactly! No way am I taking a loan out for any aspect of the wedding if I ever get married. I will save and spend the money that I have! I had a cousin who basically had a $15,000 budget... until the credit card got involved and it was over $30,000 by the end. That didn't include the private island for a week in Fiji for the honeymoon or the week after for staying in New Zealand (we're Australian). It took them years to pay it off and now they are separated. No way no how should anyone go down that round!
I came searching for this comment! I couldn’t imagine getting a loan for a dress 🤯 I also can’t imagine spending thousands on a dress or wedding either which is why I eloped. I had a gorgeous dress, “venue” (Joshua Tree National Park), and a photographer all less than $4k
@tamar avrahami for sheer curiosity, does one get to pick and choose what mitzvahs to take on, and which to not consider? From watching a few different Jewish RU-vidrs I was wondering...
@@thekingsdaughter4233 Well, formally you can't choose , But in reality some Jewish people have tattoos and don't eat bakon.. - I am also Jewish so💁- Me as an example- I will never wear a long skirt, but I eat only cosher, doesn't drive on Saturday and so on..
Maybe the problem wasn't about religious? I wanted to have a tattoo long ago and my mother said that I can never do it because it would remind her of the Holocaust... And my family is kinda religious 💁
I hope the groom is prepared to stand up for his future wife when his mom oversteps her boundary because you know its going to happen. If he doesn't this couple will not last.
Wedding preparations can be a difficult time since its the brining together of 2 families. In this case, religious rules and tradition, can determine what the future will be like. Especially when children come into play. Its true its the brides day, but it's their marriage. The middle ground is a good place to start.
He fell in love with her tattoo, he married her with her tattoo, they got babies with the tattoo.....to hell what his mother thinks. For one, it's the two of them getting married, not his mother. I love how her mother said it boldly that she wants to make sure her daughter gets what she wants
AND PLEASE TELL ME WHICH RELIGION they are raising the children in? The BRIDE also KNEW he and his family were JEWISH and SHE SHOULD HAVE found out about that religion, even attended services with him. I think she knew---WHEN you are getting married there are TWO people, A BRIDE AND A GROOM they both have families. BOTH families should be respected if they want it to work. She found the perfect dress, it respects her Groom's family and THE GROOM and started the marriage out on good terms. MARRIAGE IS ALL ABOUT COMPROMISE and if you don't know that then you ae looking at a high chance of divorce. SHE LOOKED GREAT IN THE DRESS AND TWICE AS GOOD TO THE GROOM BECAUSE SHE RESPECTED HIS MOM.
@@bethdavis7812 please finally someone who gets it, they showed the mother too extreme but i get why she did that cause my family has done stuff like that too
@@bethdavis7812 You have no idea what the groom thinks. For all we know, he doesn't a give a fuck and it's only his mum who's so obsessed with what other people do with their own bodies. (There's also no need to abuse all-caps like that.)
@@Ahshshhaha yes it was too done up for television to make the groom's mom look bad when the bride's mom was horrible for not respecting the groom's family. This bride was great at wanting to respect for his jewish side. (and I know I have seen a lower cut dress with straps...that is what I was expecting...and the make-up idea has been good too.)
Jhalak Shishodia Agreed. She has the sweetest soul. I’m glad it all worked out for everyone. Very rare to actually see a kind, warm, beautiful person these days.
The way the mother keeps looking at the mother in law whenever she mentions the tattoo is very funny to me. It's like she is trying her best not to pop off on the mother in law 😂
That tattoo is only the first thing she'll have to compromise on with MIL! She should have stood her ground, because now MIL thinks she's won and she will find another issue and another.
Wait untill they have children and her family wants a baptism/christening or it comes time for them to choose religion. She is going to have problems with how they raise them as far as religion and values.
i know i keep thinking about how she's going to treat her grandkids if they don't follow the Jewish faith to the letter and how many time those kids are probably going to end up being put down by her their whole lives and God if they ever get tattoos it's going to being raining h*llfire
She is going to need to settle this issue with her fiance and his mother BEFORE they get married. It's not just the tattoo and the dress. More issues will pop up over time if they don't settle expectations and boundaries now.
