While I always felt that Jack was going to be the guy to choose himself for the job, 20% of me was thinking Kate would be the dark horse candidate for it. In life she ran away from seriousness but in the island she became a bit of a person who ran into danger- it would have also been in line with her story arc.
Makes me realize that the writers were just making it up as they went along. They spent so much time on the significance of so many mysteries and in the end, they didn’t have a satisfactory way to wrap them all up. So, they just threw them out and gave us half-baked mysticism to close out the series. It still kept us talking and theorizing, but it’s also quite obvious that they wrote themselves into a corner (or ten) and didn’t have a clue themselves.
@@danielhicks4826Actually when they created the show Jack was supposed to die in the very first episode and Kate was to become the leader of the whole thing.
@@tatum2739 Oh thank God it didn't go that route. Kate is like 100 times better then 99 percent of female leads in most show's these days, just because well obvious reasons people either cant stand or dont give a crap about and think people like me are stupid whatever haha but to me anyways I mean when the characters are written by really obvious not subtle at all activists and hardcore feminists types, good female characters are great obviously when they are written by good writers and not activists that is, but yeah even with that she was still fairly kind of eh at times, she was alright I guess but as a leader absolutely not really glad they didn't go that route The only ones who were cut out to be leaders were Jack and Locke sort of to a smaller degree at times, maybe Ben if he wasn't such a psychopath but he was especially early on so not him yeah just those 2 really. Of course now they would go that route only remove most or all of her good qualities hah.
This made me happy. Knowing that everybody who did did actually die for SOMETHING. And Jacob is right; pretty much everybody he brought to the Island had their life improved. Locke got to walk and got a sense of purpose, Jin and Sun got their marriage repaired, Jack became a believer, Kate got to stop running, Sawyer learned to trust people, etc. Also, Mark Pellegrino is a fantastic actor.
I would be much happier with that explanation if Season 6 was about an alternate universe, as opposed to an "afterlife". It was a nice shift, a look at what could've happened, how the events of the Island actually made things better. \/ To each their own.
Animeality See, I love how they did it because it did what many series fail to do: It got us some serious closure, with nearly every character, living or dead. It just wouldn't have felt as satisfying were the flash-sideways an alternate universe instead of the afterlife.
Animeality It still was in a sense, a look into what could have happened. The afterlife was created for them, by them. In the afterlife the bomb went off and the incident never happened, which means none of the electro magnetic energy escaped and the plane never crashed. So it was a beautiful mixture of both an alternate universe of what they could be and an afterlife where they could improve themselves, realize, come together, let go, and move on.
Animeality Was it ever confirmed that it was "afterlife"? That line about death could be seen as the alternate timeline being independent from the main one as far as time goes.
I wish Jacob had said they were all “lost” instead of flawed. The name of the show has always had that double meaning for me because all the characters are lost literally and personally
When Jack says "This is what I'm supposed to do." I tear up. Throughout the series, people have been saying to Jack "You're not supposed to do this." When he was ringing the freighter in S3, and when he planned to leave the island in S4. There's a great line where John goes "but you're not supposed to go home", to which Jack sharply replies "oh what am I SUPPOSED to do", clearly agitated. The look of relief in his face as he finally realises; this is what he is supposed to do. Breathtaking.
"Supposed supposed" what does that even mean supposed to do? Because a humain being called jacob said so? Who is jacob to say to people what are they supposed to? To let probably thousands of people murder on the island so that his brother would stay on the island
@@Fbitypeshit All his LIFE, Jack has been the self-sacrificial hero (the flashback to him rescuing a kid from being beaten by bullies, taking the brunt of their abuse on himself). On the Island, he was the one running into the wreckage of Oceanic 815 pulling people out of harms way, reviving Rose, helping Claire, trying to save the marshal, giving his own blood in a futile attempt to save Boone, performing the surgery on Ben (and then using that moment to take power) to save Kate and Sawyer. The Smoke Monster reads people by scanning them. IF the Smoke Monster is a part of the Island, being created by Jacob's brother's consciousness merging with part of the energy of the Island, then reading people is part of the Island's unique power. The Island knows the nature of people...the Island healed John Locke's spine, cured Rose's cancer, made it possible for Jin and Sun to conceive. It gave John and Eko their visions. In that way, the Island knew that Jack was the ultimate self-sacrificing hero. Staying on the Island, becoming the protector, restoring the Island's source was what Jack was supposed to do. Why...because the Island knew Jack's nature and needed such a one as him. Jacob as the Island's protector receives his guidance from the Island much the same as John and Eko did. The Island even sent Vincent (who is staying with Rose and Bernard) to Jack so that he does NOT die alone. The Island also communes with Hurley as he's able to see the disappearing Cabin, and talk with the "ghosts" of people he doesn't even know like Richard's Isabella to help redirect them. The Island gave Desmond flashes to keep Charlie alive until he could warn the others about the freighter people. The Island tried to get Eko to put John back on track in terms of the button to keep the button getting pushed and keep the Island from being discoverable to Widmore and others. The Island I believe allowed Ben to get cancer to try and stop him from manipulating Locke or harming him. So Jack was "supposed" to be the hero. John's death meant the Island needed another selfless hero. This was Jack. That's why Jack felt so broken after leaving the Island. It's about finding your purpose, and a sense of destiny. And Hugo would be the one to take the mantle after Jack because the Island knew what the cost of ending the smoke monster situation would be.
It always annoys me when people say that LOST finished without answering its own questions. They focus too much on the show's ending (which of course takes place AFTER most of the questions have been answered) without realising that this one scene right here gives the viewer about 90% of the show's "purpose"
The thing is that Jacob couldn't just bring somebody to the Island and tell them "anyone wants to be the ruler of this magic place?". He needed his candidates to spend time on the island, to experience it and so realize how special it was, the need to protect it and also so Jacob could see if they were good for the job, which is somethingg that can only be judged with time. Ben was a candidate at some point, but he became selfish, greedy and too unstable, so Jacob didn't chose him.
i think ben became selfish and 'changed' when they brought him inside the temple when they healed him, Richard said it himself that it would change Ben
BUT WHY protect the island, like nothing bad happened to it. All of them wanted to blow up the entire island with a nuke, i seriously doubt that it was part of the plan. So Jacob decided to choose people who wanted to blow everything into pieces?
Of course, he essentially ''became'' Locke , because after the letter Locke sent him he understood him and he was trying to help the island as Locke was trying to.
Well, after his disastrous return to the "Real World" it's kind of impossible NOT to become like Locke. You just accept that your 'normal' life is over and resign yourself to it.
well he start go full during the double jack centric at the end of s3. I remember those spoilers centric. After that bad tattoo episode: "WTF A DOUBLE JACK CENTRIC for a finale episode of a season??" and then they blew our mind like the Sixth sense :p
+Omar Garad if by 'taking responsibility' you mean 'brought countless number of people on the island to die; never told anyone anything; died and then, when there was no other choice, on the brink of death, told people to clean his mess and kill MiB for him' then yes. He clearly did take responsibility for that.
+KlaymenDel Besides living for milennia would have probably evidenced the afterlife, if you knew what the afterlife was, and if it were peaceful, do you think you'd be a little more indiscriminate with people's lives?
Sucks that Kate, Sawyer, Sun and Jin never really felt that the island was important and never saw it as destiny for them being brought there. They didn't really care about it like Hugo, Jack or Locke did.
If you consider the island to be a sentient entity beyond Jacob's machinations then the island punishes you for your sins or eliminates you once your purpose is fulfilled. That is why Kate and Sawyer lost the loves of their lives, and have to return home in grief because they were never grateful towards the island for fixing the problems in their lives, Locke life ended once his purpose to get Jack to believe finished, Sayid Jin and Sun never showed any true belief in the island or what they gained from being there they only seemed to eager to escape hence island judged them unworthy and killed them. Desmond was the only one that fulfilled his duties despite the obstacles, made hard sacrifices and hence was the given the opportunity to return home to be happy. Almost every other character island judged and punished. I think the island was searching for a pure soul like Hurley to be its protector.
We spent so much time wondering what purpose the Island had with the crash survivors, and in the end after literally years of watching Lost, Jacob explains it. I can't describe how I felt when I watched this, but I knew that Lost had something special, something that other shows just don't have. This scene is a masterpiece.
@@pascalecleriediaz3816 @1:44 is my favorite line in this entire scene. "Because you became a mother, but it's just a line of chalk in a cave, Kate. The job is yours if you want it..." To me that felt like a shot at the ppl who over analyze EVERYTHING in Lost while taking shots at it, and expect every detail to be some life changing reveal. Even Kate expected something like that when she asked Jacob why her name was crossed out. But her name written in chalk on a cave wall and crossed out was just THAT, a name written in chalk on a cave wall that got crossed out. lol Brilliant.
@@KoolKeithProductionsthat was more so that they wrote themselves into a corner with all the mysteries and questions they injected into the story and didn’t have a satisfactory way to resolve them, so they just threw it all out.
Jacob: "it's just a line of chalk in a cave. The job is yours if you want it." I love how frank lost can be - though both viewers and characters always overhype and overworship certain elements of the story, at the end of the day, someone tends to boil it down to what it really is (though sometimes they miss the point).
That's what makes little sense: Jacob could have just picked up Locke from season one instead of trying to convert Jack, a process that took 6 seasons.
No I think the island is sentient entity on its own, Jacobs is like a mediator creation of the island carrying out its will. Island really only wanted Hurley because both Jack and Locke or extremes of personality, it is not healthy to only believe in science nor is it sound to just live on faith, you need a balance that was Hurley. Yes I know Jack changed but he was still confused and unsure about lots of things like Locke was when he died they had not changed enough to be worthy to live on to protect the island.@@DarthRushy
Hurley has never been a leader I interpreted that scene as he being confused at how to be in charge, but with Ben helping him we saw Hurley become a great leader. @@DarthRushy
0:20 temple theme, 1:26 no place like home theme, 2:01 across the sea theme, 2:50 jacobs theme, 3:05 jacks 1st theme/survivor's theme. I mean giaccino is straight genius
when jack says, "this is what I'm supposed to do," it just broke my heart. His character arc from season 1 to this moment is just incredible. John Locke would have been proud.
@@jackmayor3574 The lists were made to save people, who were not chosen by Jacob, from the monster. The chosen ones couldn't be killed by the smoke. So, even if Ben did not understand the will of Jacob, he was doing what the guardian of the island wanted : leave the chosen ones alone against the Man in black at the end without the risk he uses the unchosen ones to manipulate or kill the chosen ones in order to leave the island.
Except Jack was originally suppose to die within a few episodes of the show and Kate was going to be the leader of the castaways. Fortunately that idea got scrapped.
@@barbiquearea Same, so glad because I hated Kate's character all the way through. She's incredibly selfish and just a shit person. Very few, if any, redeemable qualities in her.
*"I didn't pluck any of you from a happy existence, you were all flawed"* - Jacob *"They are broken, flawed, abortions"* Lucifer (Same actor) to Gabriel *"Damn right they're flawed.... But a lot of them try, to do better... To forgive."*
"I didn't plug any of you out of a happy existence. You were all flawed. I chose you because you were like me, you were all alone. You were all looking for something that you couldn't find out there. You were all LOST."
it seems to me that Jacob entered Sawyer's life very early on and encouraged him toward his eventual path. Maybe without Jacob, lil' James could've gotten over the death of his parents and had a good life.
"You were all looking for something that you couldn't find out there. You were all LOST." That's why Locke was the best candidate and he was special. He was a sad, lonely man but since his first day on the island he found strenght and his attempts to do the best for the island, when no one believed him, was admirable. He would have been a great replacement for Jacob if MIB didn't get Locke.
giada giada I realized this when I just recently rewatched the show. Locke was special and probably the best candidate from the start of the show. He may have died, but he was able to make Jack a believer, and that was enough to fulfill what he was meant to do. Jack goes from hating Locke to fighting for his beliefs in the end. God I love this show lol
To me, Jack has always fit the archetype of the classic hero. A man searching for significance and purpose, something we can all empathize with. Thumbs up or give me a 'hell yeah' if you agree!
1:49-The “line of chalk” line actually made me choke up. Its like he was acknowledging the supreme importance of motherhood, but then imply the protection of the island is almost as important.
"Is that a question jack?" Always makes me misty eyed. Jacob knew he couldn't just pump Jack full of meaning and purpose, he had to find it in himself.
i really like how you can sense sadness in Jacob's voice when he talks about the monster, because it is his brother, and deep down he still misses and loves him.
@@Prisoner_849That’s a good point, and I think That is where Jack ended up. He came to his faith through science. He embraced his faith after all scientific explanations and rationalizations were exhausted. This is in contrast to Locke, who had a blind faith, which ultimately caused him to be led astray and easily manipulated. He even lost his faith at the first sign of difficulty (the orientation tape from The Pearl), whereas Mr. Eko’s faith was strengthened.
I think the island gave them all a since of purpose. Something that the regular world just couldn't provide. They needed that place as much as it needed them:)
i'd say it gave them purpose more than actually improving their lives. Locke got used, Jack's life purpose was to be a sacrificial lamb, Sawyer lost his one true love. I think it definitely was important, but it also was such a big impact on their lives that it kind of toyed with their minds
Jack became guardian and saved the world He only did this because Locke inspired him. In the end even though he was fighting someone who looked like Locke, he was still on the side of the real Locke, honoring his memory.
Amazing. Anyone who says this season didn't have answers didn't watch. This scene explains the entire show, while Across the Sea and Ab Aeterno explain everything you need to know about the mythology. People will complain about anything. The show is centered around the characters, and the final season closed the book on all of them in the most PERFECT way possible.
I don't think Jacob had to be more descriptive than he was. Whoever became the leader, the island would speak to them and tell them what they need to know. The island has a will of its own. Jacob doesn't pull all the strings. That is something made clear many times.
One of the most powerful scenes in the history of television edit : 2021 I can't forget this scene. Edit 2023 : I chose you because you were like me...you were all alone...you were all looking for something that you couldn't find out there...
Jack's character arc throughout this series may be the single best Hero's Journey and metamorphosis ever in a story. Certainly one of my favorites. I still cry when Jack volunteers. The certainty solidifies and it makes him soooo much more dangerous. Luke Skywalker-esque.
Six seasons of lost and all i ever wanted was for that moment when jacks 'No' this is why im here! I cried at lot of stuff but this was the most powerful and proudest of lost moments ever! Nothing will top lost, its better than football.... there i said it!!!
When Jacob is telling them about their destiny and as to why the Island needs them, it reminds me so much of Locke in the earlier seasons and how he was telling them why this island was so important. The group, especially Jack, comes to realize how Locke was right all along and it's sad to see Locke wasn't there for this moment. Love the music, perfect moment.
Jacob: I don't even know where to start. Hurley: why don't you start with why you brought us to the island. Jacob: yeah, I still don't really know where to start...
“This is why I’m here. This is what I’m supposed to do” “Is that a question Jack?” “No” Jack character arc complete. Love the music this scene is perfection.
"Congratulations Final 4. You have done what all of your fellow candidates could not. You have gone as far as you can go in this game. Tonight you will compete in your final Immunity Challenge..."
I see Lost as a soul project. We were told the story of this particular soul group and how they were able to move on together through their lifetimes. It’s extremely captivating and inspiring. I do believe Lost falls into its own category because of how deep it truly is. There’s reincarnation stuff here too, I can feel the writers know about deep spiritual topics and the more you are educated on those topics (SPIRITUAL NOT RELIGIOUS) The more you enjoy lost!
John Locke's legacy was making Jack a believer in the island and the need to protect it. Locke's death and the events that followed inspired Jack to become protector of the island. LOST really has some of the greatest character arcs in modern television.
For the first time in a long time I've only today watched this scene with different eyes....I've seen it through the eyes of Sawyer and it gave me a whole new consideration for this scene...Jack volunteering always took me out of it because it was, as MIB later says, the obvious choice. But then looking at Sawyer reaction when Jacob asks for a volunteer and after Jack goes in, I realized Saywer was much more of an obvious volunteer than Jack and that's what Sawyer shows in the two times before and after Jacks steps up. Because of course Hurley would have not took it, of course Kate would have not took it. So it was between Jack and Sawyer, and the old Jack, as prone to action as he was, would have just hit the wall of his lack of faith and questioned the idea of a supernatural force at work, of destiny and purpose to the death. Sawyer was still looking at Jack that way, that's why he lower his eyes, thinking "it has to be me", because nobody else would have, and Sawyer, as much of a smartass as he was, never shied away from taking responsabilities if needed. He was about to take it, for much different reasons. Then you look at him staring at Jack volunteering not for the usual eroism, but for a sense of purpose and he for the first time realizes Jack has changed and just took one hell of a burden off him. And, ultimately, he probably saved his life.
@@giada951 no, It would have been between Locke and Sawyer for the same reasons. Locke's death is one of the events that causes Jack to change into what Locke wanted him to be. When Locke meets Jack for the last time, Jack is at his worst, he's broken, angry, addicted and probably knows Locke is right about him needing to go back, but still shuts him down because he can't bring himself to admit it. But that is also the same day he buys his first ticket on a plane hoping to crash. When he finds out Locke is dead Is when he calls Kate for the "we have to go back!". That's the start, and then there's the whole season 5. Locke's death is the biggest influence on Jack going from "man of science" to "man of faith". Jack at the end of season 6 basically is Locke, far more than the man that uses his face.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 I don't think he would have done it "for the island", I think he would have done it because someone had to do it and if it had to be him because nobody else would, he would have stepped up. For Kate, for Hugo, hell even for Jack himself. And for payback for Sayid, Sun and Jin dying too probably, he's the vindictive kind of guy as we well know. Also at this point he's well aware of the absurdity of it all compared to common sense and logic, he literally traveled through time and lived in the 70s and never questioned it, because Sawyer has the "what you see is what it is" kind of approach. Jack was the kind of guy to jump to action at any time in the first saesons, because he had this urge to always "fix" any situation than needed it. But when it was a matter of "faith" and things that are out of ordinary logic, he struggled. As Sayid fixes the computer at the start of Season 2 to insert the numbers in the Swan station Jack is initially ready to let the count go to zero because he doesn't want to believe the idea of a "save the world button" and let alone Locke's concept of them being destined to do it. Locke goes through a hell of an effort to convince him. Jack also doesn't want to admit that Locke moved the Island when it disappears right in front of his eyes and denies it, even though he doesn't have explanations for it, to him it's just an Island and Island can't be "moved" by someone, it's a matter of principle, he's the man of science. What I was saying is I think Sawyer was the one that didn't really realized yet how much Jack had changed at this point. That's because of the placement of Sawyer's close ups in this scene and the way he looks at Jack, but of course I can be wrong and I can be reading too much into it. But I like to think that was the intent.
I actually teared up when Jack said "I'll do it" at that time, I never wanted Jack to die and this confirmed it even more. Still, it's one of my favorite scenes.
If only Locke was alive for this meeting. He would've been thrilled and would have jumped at the chance to become the new protector. Then again, if he was alive, the Man in Black would have never impersonated him and manipulated Ben into killing Jacob, so this new candidate selection meeting would never have happened.
Best show ever, it had everything - drama, romance , mystery , sci-fi, thriller, fantasy..... when will they make anything close to this multi genre masterclass.
Idc how fd my life is. You not just gon kidnap me through crash landing on a magic island to protect it from a evil you created because he didn’t want to stay there in the first place. I wished the ending was eventually the smoke monster wining lol.
He said they needed the island. He chose people who would benefit from being chosen. Locke was healed, rose cure of cancer, Richard got to talk to his wife and say goodbye, hurley learned he wasn't crazy, miles reconciled with his father, Kate escaped death row like Richard. He saved them really. And if he did waste their lives to any extent, the fate of the world was at stake what was he supposed to do? Let the world be destroyed?
This show gains a lot with a rewatch. Many people got angry about being a mother, the illness and their theories on how it affected Claire, or Rousseau, or Kate's name crossed. But in the end it was just that. He needed someone who was willing to sacrifice everyrithing for the taak of protector. A mother, or any other people who had something to live for and care about outside the Island, wasn't valid. Because they had something more important for them than the island, and thus they could be corrupted.
I think it's really interesting how Jacob says they were all chosen because they were flawed, when in season 3 it was stated by Mikhail that they were not on the list because they were "flawed", so I guess sometime between the events of Ab Eterno and season 5, the smoke monster had been posing as Jacob. The man in black represents judgement, while Jacob is all about redemption.
Jacob's lists I think just were instead those who weren't candidates. It excluded Jack, Sayid, Kate, Locke. All candidates. It may have been because actual candidates (those who were touched by Jacob, which Jack, Kate, Sayid and Locke were) were "protected" by Jacob's rules from harm by MIB. So Jacob didn't have to worry about them, however the rest who were on the lists were kidnapped to prevent MIB either killing them or recruiting them.
Only thing I would have done different is do a few less of the "flash-sideways" in favor of more Island flashbacks, for more lore. And, I would have perpetuated the idea that whenever MIB takes a deceased person's appearance, that person's soul is trapped on the island. That way, they could have given an even more personal role to Jack in trying to free Locke, furthermore they could have had Locke's spirit take part in the final battle even though he was deceased. Maybe appear to lend one last helping hand somehow.
Look at the series again--from the first season. The Island was a place that was characterized according to Locke and Ben as giving its inhabitants a "second chance;" this was according to Jacob as well, who also wanted a leader to eventually take over. The island didn't initially need saving--not when Jacob was busy recruiting all the wrong people at their own expense (and usually at the cost of their own lives!) In short, Lost's setup didn't correspond to its finale.
Such a powerful moment between jack and jacob! Love the music btw! He finally knows, why he was brought to the island and he accepts his destiny! For me it's also very impressing to see jack's transformation! In season 3 we have a broken jack, who is almost commiting suicide and in the final season he finds himself again!!! (Thanks to John Locke - RIP man ;)! Epic!!! Lost, the greatest series ever!!!
Yes, its amazing the character development and transformation of Jack. He became what he was the antithesis of - what Locke embraced and what he hated. Season 1 and Season 2 Jack had about as much use for destiny as Locke had for the science that couldn't fix his legs.
The best thing about this scene is when hurley asks sawyer whether he can see Jacob and Sawyer nods. The old sawyer would have been ready with a snarky comment like "Of course Tubby" or something. Really shows how far the character has come.
To be fair, having just seen 3 friends die in an assassination attempt that could have killed all of them and which he felt responsible for due to his impatience (following a prolonged 3 year period where he had shown wise and successful leadership before everything turned upside down again), I think snark was the last thing on his mind right then.
@HolyoakeD The only list Ben ever made was the one he gave to Michael. All the rest were from Jacob. From season 5 finale "Richard would give me all those slips of paper, all those lists". The lists were for non candidates, it all fits.
Deep down Jack knew he's going to die sooner or later because he actually wants to die for what happened to Juliet. Now he's relieved that he can die for a reason. Protecting the island.
The 1st time I watched this scene it was extremely frustrating. It was the perfect choice to have Sawyer ask "why does he have to pay for Jacob's mistake". When Jacob says they were all flawed is when I lost it. Everyone is flawed. He was essentially saying his candidates are the most flawed of everyone ( the people with the most sad existence ). They had the right to be left alone & live their lives as they were, without having to worry about risking their lives over a special island. So, he brings them to the island to give them a new life purpose, but if they don't succeed in protecting the island against Jacob's "mistake" monster, they & everyone they love all die? Fuck you Jacob! It's like "who are you to interfere in my life". Outside of this, LOST is the best storytelling of faith, science, & mythology, with phenomenal acting
Sawyers question belies the truth of LIFE itself. We all way for somebody else's mistakes. Generational cycles of abuse produce predators, miscreants and criminals; we as a society pay either directly as victims of crime or indirectly in having to lock our doors, carry mace or pepper spray, look over our shoulder. We pay for the negligence of mechanics who fail to secure a wheel properly and a massive multi-car pile up happens. We pay for a negligent cook who doesn't cook the food thoroughly or wash his/her hands properly and people get sick from eating the food s/he prepared. We all pay for someone else's mistakes in life. ALL the time! Sawyer killed an innocent man thinking him to be the con man (Locke's dad) who duped his mother causing the murder suicide that took his parents. That man paid for Sawyer's mistake.
Not to say Jacobs babbling about free will all the time how he doesn't want to tell people what to do, that they must figure it out themself yet he forced them on the island. He bringed them there. Jacob really annoyed me.
the problem is that they paint jacob as good and he is not really good, he use people as chess pieces letting them all die to protect the island that from the beginning he was told to do it but he never questioned what would happen if he left or He destroyed the island, I think that Jacob was just a dog that followed orders that he was told since he was a child that does not make him good, that alone deserved to die 😷
@northbynw08 For 5 seasons, Jack denied to believe. Everything was hunting him, his dead fathers' ghost, the fact that he didn't believe Locke and he died, the fact that he left his sister behind. He started drinking pills, he became a mess, he became not the Jack that we were used to. And that happened because he needed to believe. And he finally believed. The whole 6th season leads to this point. And that's what makes this scene so emotional. It's his time to redeem himself ;-)
Never said never. Damon Lindelof himself said that someday Disney will bring Lost back. But Lindelof and Cuse don't want to be part of it for the future. It's a franchise. The problem is...we know everything about the island so...what now?
Jacob as a concept and character was so intriguing when they gave us just little glimpses of him. The more he talked and explained, the less interesting I found him.
@StormedRebel Jack was ALWAYS going to be the next guardian though, his number 23 is the only prime number of the 4-8-15-16-23-42 vallenzetti equation.
I think the purpose was two-fold. First, to give a glimpse into the future that would/might have been if the plane had not crashed (even though it was not in fact the future) and second, to allow the characters to finally redeem themselves.
Love how in retrospect you know in those few brief moments Jack reads between all the lines. Whoever volunteers for this job highly likely dies right with the Man in Black. And thus yet another protector will be needed in the aftermath. Hurley is the best for the permanent job, so Jack jumps in and volunteers for the first part.
Does anyone else find it frustrating that Jacob just doesn't explain to them what would be so catastrophic about Smokey leaving? I find it hard to believe that Jack, Hurley and the rest would just take his word for it without any logical reason.
Jared Fladeland True, but Jacob was saying that one of them will have to stay to protect the island, then he says "You have to protect it from HIM" which still doesn't explain why the island is special. I just thought it was unrealistic that they wouldn't demand a solid explanation for what is going on and why one of them needs to take Jacob's place. I understand why it would be bad if the monster escaped, but from the perspective of Jack and the rest, there is no logical reason why this island is so important.
***** Yeah you're right, I was exaggerating when I said Jack volunteers without a good reason. I just mean that you'd think he and the other candidates would demand a proper explanation for what's happening, after all they've gone through.
***** You're right, there were some really well thought out ideas and themes in this show, so I'm not criticising it all as whole, mostly just scenes like this where the realism sort of takes a back seat. That aside, Lost is still a great series.
In truth, they were all candidates for the most important job of all. To protect the Island where there appears to be direct access to the Light (presumably the source of life itself: what else could give near immortality to Jacob and allow him to give it to Richard and spontaneously heal a paralyzed man enabling him to walk again, cure terminal cancer, bring Sayid back from the dead, allow people to communicate with the deceased etc.) that exists everywhere. IF that light goes out there, it goes out everywhere. Whether Jacob tossing his brother whom he could not kill somehow imbued a human consciousness into a pre-existing Smoke monster that functioned as a protective measure, or created the smoke monster...the entity that is the smoke monster can only fulfill its desire to leave the Island...essentially break away from the Light by extinguishing it. It is possible that the Island itself has the ability to "READ" those who come to the Island. This is what the smoke monster does...when it scans people. So it is possible that MiBs can't be killed rule causes his consciousness to transfer into the Island's light causing some part of it to break off and want to "flee" the Island. This then causes the light to diminish. The entity must return to the Light and it must become whole again. So killing the embodiment of MiB's consciousness merged with the Light was necessary to restore things to the way they should have been. Jack had no such "rule" that he couldn't be killed and more over he voluntarily went into the Source...so he would NOT become a smoke monster when the Source is re-ignited. This is all just conjecture.
"I don't really know where to start." Jesus, Jacob is a terrible communicator. After 1000s of years of not filling people in, lots of death, bringing people to the island against his will, and he just can't simply spit it out?
***** I'm not one to sympathize or apologize for villains, but how out of the loop Jacob knowingly kept everyone led to the creation of some major villains (Smokey and Ben).
Jacob wasn't really planning on giving up the job until he finally was killed, which he saw as a Worst case scenario. In the grand-scheme it was only about 2-weeks after he died that he came to them here.
When we finally 'saw' and heard Jacob speak, we realized that he too was human, and just like everyone else on the island: he knew the island was special, but instead knew just a little more on how it functioned through longevity. This is the point, and why not all of the questions were answered by the end of the series.
That's true in a sense, if I had to pick one main character it would be Jack, but the story focuses on Locke a great deal as well as Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Sun, Jin and Sayid. They're the characters that have been in most of the episodes.
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