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Lost Lake - Gone but not Forgotten (Sumas Lake) 

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@mreed6050
@mreed6050 2 года назад
This video aged like a fine wine.
@Fempath
@Fempath 2 года назад
Yeah it did. I live like 5 minutes away from this and it’s flooding full again. Full circle ⭕️
@shunin88
@shunin88 2 года назад
"would we dare drain it again?" Timely.
@blairthandi7058
@blairthandi7058 2 года назад
Right. The lake nearly claimed itself again. As an evacuee, I wish all of my evacuees the best, and hope they all can return home soon. Tomorrow. the Abbotsford Police said I can attempt to return to my home. I know there is water in my garage, but not sure about the house yet. God bless all.
@Cj2o
@Cj2o 2 года назад
@@shunin88 - You watch. Government will authorize the draining of Sumas Prairie/Lake yet again, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, the pump station is working overdrive as we speak to do exactly that.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
And according to the flood report just released by ecologists who studied this incident - in about 30 years the flood will happen again and will be 4x as costly.
@raynus1121
@raynus1121 2 года назад
Thank you Mother Nature for reminding us again who's boss.
@fhaedra
@fhaedra 2 года назад
How many among us knew anything about the history of Sumas Lake before this week’s disastrous events and the devastating losses? Nature may be manipulated but she is unconquerable. Such an interesting clip. Thanks, @BricklightFilms. Informative and educational. I’ll watch for the feature.🍂
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
As the director of this film, I grew up in Vancouver. Our cinematographer grew up in the Okanagan. Neither of us had this tid bit of history remotely touched on in class. We do have friends and colleagues who grew up in Abbotsford and they did learn about it, but not as in depth as we are all learning now. They got some select history..... I learned what I know of it from Sumas First Nations workbooks and stories, and the extensive research and interviews collected by Chad Reimer. We filmed this to help fund a larger project so we could share the history with as many people as possible. We have been working on this for a while and only now people are interested....
@TheApacheGreene
@TheApacheGreene 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms hope you are able to continue this story and show the folly of the decisions that are being made to drain it again 😭 Government should be restoring this lake. It would act as a buffer for future flooding. Like the Springbank reservoir in Alberta which was planned after the 2013 floods there. Such shame that politics trump logic and science 😔
@jacobpelzer8958
@jacobpelzer8958 2 года назад
I have lived around ten minutes south of there for around 7 years now and did not know there was ever a lake there
@mscutiebum
@mscutiebum 2 года назад
I had just been talking with my husband about the lake as we live in Abbotsford and own property in Hope. I told him all about it. And the pump station as I had wondered why there were no lakes near by when I moved into the area 20 years ago. So I looked up lakes in Abbotsford and had come across the history. I know it’s heart breaking because of the lost of farms. But when they drained it they would have had loss then as well. I feel it should be a lake As was intended. The area looks beautiful and peaceful filled with water at the end of the mountains.
@jonesey65244
@jonesey65244 2 года назад
This will ALL be blamed on goreBULL warming, and not only will they not learn they cannot CONTROL nature, but will come back in a vengeance even harder to do the impossible. All the while draining your pockets--along with any other of those pesky lakes that get in the way.
@hornet100bhp
@hornet100bhp 2 года назад
Great piece of history. Sorry for all the people that lost everything back there and now.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
There was a massive con draining the lake in the 1920s and that was the loss of a complete and rich community that had lived off that land for hundreds of years.... The Sema:th people were robbed of their culture, food, and land....for helping people..... Now, an established ecosystem created over the last 100 years is flooding.....
@martinkent333
@martinkent333 2 года назад
Living on the low ground is a brilliant idea when it floods. The rich live on the hills.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
That is exactly what the Sema:th did. It was the settlers who wanted the grazing land.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
@@SC-oh9ol it seems like you don't like our content, we are not sure why you are here. Please discontinue discord with this account, we will not accept colonialist history that disregards Indigenous people in this way.
@aspensplace3293
@aspensplace3293 2 года назад
Beautifully done. It is interesting how nature recently protested and readjusted.
@dyannejohnson6184
@dyannejohnson6184 2 года назад
Beautiful film
@zigarten
@zigarten 2 года назад
Interesting as heck
@noahtrudgian6908
@noahtrudgian6908 2 года назад
How accurately done this video is I have to say amazing job. Also Praying those pumps stay on thru the night
@udhay_
@udhay_ 2 года назад
Fuck the pumps
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
Thank you. We put a lot of work into researching before we shot it. I truly hope the pumps are saved to spare the town of the flooding. I hope everybody is safe.
@martenkerkhoff6600
@martenkerkhoff6600 2 года назад
Quick visit from the future, both the pumps and John Conner survived
@dustinjames7572
@dustinjames7572 2 года назад
Not excusing the decision to drain the lake 100 years ago but not really interested in celebrating what would probably be the most contaminated water body in the province now sitting on top of hundreds of farms, flooded manure pits, oil leaking machinery, and rotting carcasses of thousands of dead livestock.
@MyDogmatix
@MyDogmatix 2 года назад
Gross! And very true. Think about all the Geri cans and other toxic chemicals we all have in our houses. All the chemicals the farmers use. Now in this lake. Now heading for the Fraser/Stolo river and the mouth of the Salish Sea. Oh man.
@globalsolidarity55
@globalsolidarity55 2 года назад
Aptly put.
@MrPatvee
@MrPatvee 2 года назад
I'll take it
@jaygray7102
@jaygray7102 3 месяца назад
@@MyDogmatix They cleaned up Britannia Beach and False Creek, marine life returned. Pollution resulting from agriculture can be cleaned up too, not overnight but it's possible.
@lindamacgregor8039
@lindamacgregor8039 2 года назад
I've always known this. I grew up in Abbotsford. My mom grew up in Clayburn. She and Dad both told us about the draining of Sumas Lake.
@One_Guy
@One_Guy 2 года назад
yes its part of our history. People need to pay more attention to where they live and the history that comes with where they live.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
I grew up in a different area of the valley and never heard a peep about it. I think maybe unifying a curriculum about specific BC history and prior to settlement history for the indigenous peoples would be good. I'm only also learning now about Tsleil-Waututh having their entire village burned down in 1913 to build industrial at false Creek. I would have loved to learn this in school and learn about the "great land reclamation" that settlers felt entitled to. I think I would have been supportive of indigenous history and reconciliation much sooner. Maybe that's why they don't do it....
@One_Guy
@One_Guy 2 года назад
@@amandachristmas9682 would certainly be useful. But it also takes an effort on an individual to show interest in the place they call home and seek out the history that is there. Mill Lake is a great example in Abbotsford as it has placards all around about the history of mill lake and what it was used for in the past before it became a park. also there is a lot of stuff posted on youtube like this but also from the government. there is a 360 degree camera view walking through the barrowtown pump stations showing you the equipment operating and all the rooms etc. The information on our history is there for those who seek it.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
@@One_Guy As a child, especially one who didn't grow up specifically in Abbotsford, I wouldn't have been able to even understand what I didn't know about a neighboring city I had been to maybe only a few times. My mother is from England, and I can tell you she had no idea about it until I told her. Also, as a kid, I had no internet.... that is new and maybe it changes how kids learn now in a way I can't even fathom. Playing devils advocate, I would rather take the position of "most people won't look into Canadian history themselves, let us add it to the curriculum from childhood and hope it sparks a continuous learning opportunity for them" vs "they should be adventurous and figure it out on their own"... It's fantastic you were that person, not all of us are or can be for whatever reason. If we spark the history in children, one would hope they would at least remember it or continue growing their knowledge as adults. And we need to include proper Indigenous history in these lessons so they learn that it wasn't all fur trade, beading, and drum circles (this is my recollection of my lessons on Indigenous history from elementary school and I'm glad I went beyond this)
@JimEatsPlants
@JimEatsPlants 3 года назад
Just finished reading Before We Lost The Lake. Will watch for your film.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 3 года назад
We love that book. It wasn't why we started making this but we definitely read it after we started shooting and were blown away with the extensive knowledge Chad Reimer has learned about the lake. He has created something so special with it. I'm glad you got the opportunity to read it and I hope we can even do half the justice to the story that Chad did.
@hermannityofficial528
@hermannityofficial528 2 года назад
Lol sumas lake has returned new landscape names… Whatcom island, Chililiwack island, Hope island
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
If none of this water receded I presume they would declare it a sea vs a lake at this point. The sheer size of the body of water connects along many rivers to the ocean. I wonder how the Rambo statue is doing on our newfound, and hopefully very temporary Hope Island.
@bmint
@bmint 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms newfound hopeland, actually sounds nice?
@sandratomsons2493
@sandratomsons2493 2 года назад
Thank you for telling the lake's story so beautifully. The only right answer to your question at the end is 'No". No one should be so foolish as to try to lose the lake. We should only rejoice that it has been found, and be thankful into the future.
@sandratomsons2493
@sandratomsons2493 2 года назад
@@shifty7739 Eating locally produced food is only great for the environment when it can be done without destroying the local environment. You seem to be mislead about the non-existence of the lake as well as the value of marshlands.
@sandratomsons2493
@sandratomsons2493 2 года назад
I had to rush away to a Zoom meeting so did not have time to ask whether you have "skin in the game." I am not quite sure what this expression means; but, if having skin in the game means caring a lot about what happens to a lake and its ecosystem then I have a lot of skin in this game.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
It is a lake. Scientifically it is a lake. Please provide us your ecology degree in Limnology. If you can't provide one, your opinion on the lake's designation is moot. We've seen you pop up negatively in a few comments and it's not tolerated. No trolls, name calling, or any other break in terms of service will be allowed. You are one comment away from being banned from our page.
@davea60
@davea60 2 года назад
Amazing and it shows mans impact on on the environment
@balpreetsingh5969
@balpreetsingh5969 2 года назад
Lake is coming back, look what are the 4 most affected areas are.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
It's almost like the original lake may have shown us exactly where it wanted to be.
@balpreetsingh5969
@balpreetsingh5969 2 года назад
@@amandachristmas9682 Exactly
@10lauset
@10lauset 2 года назад
More knowledgeable now. The earth does what it does, this time it's here in BC with this rain. Fukishima, Japan had tsunamis over the course of time and was forgotten until it came again. Nothing stays the same over time...Cheers...
@redditor7548
@redditor7548 2 года назад
Nature is always striving to maintain balance, humans are always causing imbalances and the more imbalance we cause the crazier the swings will be when nature tries to rebalance herself. If we continue down the path of destruction the swings will only get worse and worse until nature has taken care of the human parasites and begins to heal. The audacity we have as humans to believe we can somehow overcome her and escape this inevitability. We have to learn to live in a mutually beneficial relationship with Mother Nature if we are to survive as a species. This flooding is a warning
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
I couldn't agree more
@alexanderewasiuk8342
@alexanderewasiuk8342 2 года назад
It's an amazing feat that this lake returned in one day lol 😆 😄. Love it
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
The lake wants to be there so bad. The entire full force of water would push through the breached dam and flood in 2 days all the way from Chilliwack to Sumas WA. Mother nature is powerful..
@iFortold
@iFortold 2 года назад
@@mhart9279 cheering for people to lose everything they have? What a nice guy...
@iFortold
@iFortold 2 года назад
@@mhart9279 Have you thought about all the food that this area provides for people? What would you rather have, a lake, or farmland that feeds untold amounts of people? People manipulate the environment around them in order to live and prosper. Maybe you should stop wearing that suit and go live in a forest without all the wonderful things that progress gave you. But no, you will enjoy all the amenities that are provided for you, while complaining and whining about how cruel human ingenuity is. Maybe you should be angry at politicians that are unwilling to maintain the infrastructure to avoid floods like this instead of "rooting for a lake". Makes you look like a clown.
@blairthandi7058
@blairthandi7058 2 года назад
It was so scary. I stayed up all night watching, slept for 3 hours, woke up, and our property, road, and freeway were buried in about 6 feet of water, so we evacuated by boat. Scariest thing I have ever seen.
@lindamacgregor8039
@lindamacgregor8039 2 года назад
@@blairthandi7058 I'm sorry for your traumatic experience - I can only imagine how fearful it was to see your home inundated so completely.
@MimsicalRenegade
@MimsicalRenegade 2 года назад
Mother Nature Is Speaking To Us
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
I agree. From an article the director wrote almost a year ago: Mother Nature has a way of doing what she wants, and no matter how hard we fight it, one day, the lake will exist again.
@walroth84
@walroth84 3 года назад
What a video. Keep it up!
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 3 года назад
Thank you! We are in development for a feature on this topic. Probably release in 2022
@rockingredpoppy9119
@rockingredpoppy9119 2 года назад
The lake has returned, when will people ever learn. Leave lakes as lakes, its as nature intended.
@tinalaursen8993
@tinalaursen8993 2 года назад
The ideal has been to conquer not cooperate with Mother Nature. It has proven to not be a successful strategy over the long term. Perhaps now the attitudes are changing as the cost to maintain this mindset continues to go up. We shall see.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
I would love to say we will learn from this, but look at New Orleans, Puerto Rico or any other disaster we've had in the last ... even 2 years.... What blows my mind (the director) is that when you look historically, the civilizations that fell, fell due largely to overconsumption of resources. They initially found areas that were very lush and rich with everything they needed, and then overharvested to the point where they changed the eco-climate of the area created natural disasters that wiped them out... drought, flooding, etc... It feels like, and I'm not an expert in this particular field so this is opinion only, all animals including us, have a default system in place to cull our populations when we no longer have the homeostatic balance with our surroundings. I'm going to look into this more and speak to people who are experts in this study to find out more details. Before current day, this was happening to isolated civilizations. I am terrified, but also fascinated to see how it works on a global scale and I'm also terrified and blown away that I'll be living through something like this.
@arsonx1
@arsonx1 2 года назад
My grandma said last time sumas flooded the water reached the seat of the tractor.
@Robynlynn105
@Robynlynn105 2 года назад
48 hours? Well we beat that and the pump is still working...
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
There is a concern it will fail by 1am. Please stay safe.
@rickthebaker9379
@rickthebaker9379 2 года назад
They said 48 hours if the pumps failed.
@KonkaBass
@KonkaBass 3 года назад
This is wild. I had no idea.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 3 года назад
The exact reason we felt compelled to tell the story :)
@wdhewson
@wdhewson 2 года назад
Just the term "Lower" mainland say it all.
@stephanieward3221
@stephanieward3221 2 года назад
❤❤❤
@ojaym9769
@ojaym9769 2 года назад
Never knew the story of Sumas lake in hindsight the early settlers played Russian roulette with all the residents. I wish them well never the less.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Again, it wasn't swamp/marshland. It was a lake and areas of marsh/wetland - but is primarily a lake. Here's a neat link for you to read before you continue posting any more incorrect information. Also - we've managed to destroy the ecosystem in this area in the last 200 years - it was perfectly fine for the 11k years prior to European arrival. books.google.ca/books?hl=en&lr=&id=JGlz_AWQAWIC&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=designating+a+lake+vs+marsh&ots=woVAxwsKQB&sig=r7TRnkWyiBeGT4rBryPBswH61VE&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=designating%20a%20lake%20vs%20marsh&f=false
@cageordie
@cageordie 2 года назад
Well, you certainly called it. And it didn't take 48 hours.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
It didn't fully refill. The entire area, if filled, would be from Chilliwack to Sumas Wa and about 10-20 feet deep in most areas.... We got close, but not fully.
@joyandbuddyschannel
@joyandbuddyschannel 2 года назад
Are this vedio made before the flooding? lake is back! my heart goes out to those victims. Be strong BC the sun will rise again and we will be fine. ❤
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Yes! We made this video back in February 2021. The flooding didn't occur until, now, November 2021. We are watching the unfolding events hoping everybody stays safe and can start rebuilding / returning to their lives soon.
@BackyardProspector
@BackyardProspector 2 года назад
This seems relevant now for some reason... great video
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
It unfortunately does. We truly didn't think our hypothetical scenario of the pumps failing would be seen in our lifetime. Here is hoping those working on the pumps can keep them operational. So far so good...
@blairthandi7058
@blairthandi7058 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms To prevent this from happening, the Americans really need to something about the Nooksack River. If Canada and USA can work together, I am sure something can be done to prevent their waters from spilling over. Barrowtown pump station can easily handle just normal flood water, but if an earthquake or tsunami came, well, then it is all over.
@aamirrizwan2011
@aamirrizwan2011 2 года назад
And the lake came back again , but sadly this time with lot of vengeance. Let lake live again. So others could live too.
@RadGnar
@RadGnar 3 года назад
Beautiful video, thank you.
@AlexSuperTramp-
@AlexSuperTramp- 2 года назад
Shut down barrowtown pumps! Bring the lake back!
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We all know they won't. Instead of buying the land back and helping relocate people they will just spend more than a trillion dollars every 30 years to keep it farm land. And they will do this whether science agrees or not. I'm not sure what it would actually take to get governments to change.... I don't think governments ever have, look at historical cities that have perished - the leaderships greed didn't stop until the city buckled and died... Grim.. sorry, I haven't had my coffee yet.
@chrissilver5935
@chrissilver5935 3 года назад
What a sight to see
@magickennyj
@magickennyj 2 года назад
Kind of prophetic if you think about this topic and the video was done before the flood.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
We created a hypothetical and never expected to see it happen. We've been told about "the big one" for 60 years, none of us expect it to happen in our specific life time ... But a massive flood..... Let's just hope our other developing films aren't prophetic.....
@joyandbuddyschannel
@joyandbuddyschannel 2 года назад
New subscriber here from abbotsford 👋
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Thank you! We will be starting to shoot a longer documentary shortly. We are using this time to finish the planning stages and once it's safe to go back in the area and people have started to settle we will be starting to film! Can't wait to release it! Thank you for the follow!
@joyandbuddyschannel
@joyandbuddyschannel 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms wow! I'll be looking for that thank you so much!!👍🏼
@bentmahon8633
@bentmahon8633 2 года назад
Its baaaaa,aaaack
@vancouver19941
@vancouver19941 2 года назад
It’s back!
@martinkent333
@martinkent333 2 года назад
Duhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jaykhakh
@jaykhakh 3 года назад
Awesome sneak peak! When can we expect the full documentary? I'm a resident of the area :)
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 3 года назад
We are in development! I’ll keep you posted.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
That depends on what happens in the next few days. There will be a video, we are just not sure if it will be about a lake, or the idea of a lake. Please stay safe.
@gragor11
@gragor11 2 года назад
Timely, eh? I'm learning a lot about Sumas Lake today. I noticed that your river and wet land shots all have that yellow scourge in them, as the wetland I live beside does as well. Reed Canary Grass (RCG). That plant sure does like water. It would be sad to recreate the lake and then have RCG take it over.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
I wasn't aware that yellowish grass was an invasive species. I can't find anything online regarding this plant in that area. When things settle down and we go back to shoot the longer documentary, I'll take a look and see if it's still there and see if somebody can't come by and identify it. Thank you.
@thecrowfliescrooked
@thecrowfliescrooked 2 года назад
Correct me if I'm wrong but as it stands the current flood is do to the Nooksack flooding in Washington State and flowing north into the Sumas prairie. Additionally the Barrowtown station is not just a pump but a damn so in the event of a power outage the damn aspect would still function and prevent the Fraser river from flowing into Sumas. As for draining the lake it would have never stood a chance. One way or another it would have been drained eventually and will never return, that's just simple logic.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
May I correct you if you're wrong? This was made a year ago, not last week. This was a hypothetical situation, earthquake, to explain pump failure. It would flood the area in about 48 hours - which is why it's so high on BC Hydros fix list. I'm not even going to get into the ignorance of humanity thinking we can alter our environment as drastically as we do with no consequences for our actions.
@thecrowfliescrooked
@thecrowfliescrooked 2 года назад
@@amandachristmas9682 altering the environment for progress is been around since the dawn of mankind and will continue till the end of our existence.
@thecrowfliescrooked
@thecrowfliescrooked 2 года назад
@@amandachristmas9682 oh and I agree about the pump failure and being a priority but the issue isn't the pump. It's proper infrastructure in Washington State and BC. They've been warned about this situation for over 30 years but the moron's running the show would rather be reactionary and cost to repaid will be in the billions.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
@@thecrowfliescrooked the way in which we currently do it is not sustainable. Millions of Indigenous people lived on this continent for tens of thousands of years and managed to manipulate the environment in a way that left it for generations in the future. In 150 years in Canada - we've altered this landscape so much we are literally killing our environment and ourselves. There will be no resources left to harvest for our economy to function and the water will flood back, taking out all the cities we've built in the flood plains. Our destruction has escalated.
@thecrowfliescrooked
@thecrowfliescrooked 2 года назад
@@amandachristmas9682 The past is the past and nothing will change that nor will it change things going forward. Money, that is the only focus until we are truly fucked, which is coming. It's no surprise we're doomed but until it effects people on a large scale nothing will change. Governments are reactionary and that happens when the flow of cash is interrupted. Watch how fast the Highway number 1 gets repaired after this flood. The quickness of repair won't be for the good of the people, it'll be to keep the cash flow coming.
@Ryder382
@Ryder382 Год назад
👍❤
@lauragrefford1216
@lauragrefford1216 2 года назад
Is the full documentary available now?
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We are in development. We were hoping to shoot it through 2022 and release it later in the year or early 2023. We may be escalating production in light of current events. Our newsletter on our website will keep you posted, or like our page and you will see updates pop up as well.
@CandiceChapple19
@CandiceChapple19 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms 🙏❤️
@mattlopez202
@mattlopez202 2 года назад
whats the song name?
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Music: Flight of the Inner Bird - Sivan Talmor - it's on artlist dot io and may not be available in full form elsewhere.
@zigzag2162
@zigzag2162 2 года назад
100 years later
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
It's uncanny!
@BCS_trenpen
@BCS_trenpen 2 года назад
Hey btw it is November 16th and it is flooding so good luck anyone and stay safe
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
When we made this short, we never thought in a million years it would actually flood.
@hcraretep
@hcraretep 2 года назад
It happened.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Yes, when we did this film last February it hadn't though. ☺️
@DonovanWert
@DonovanWert 2 года назад
Awesome 😎
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Thanks 🤗
@sueroy7503
@sueroy7503 2 года назад
9 months ago,posted then. Intresting,
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We didn't intend for it to be a prophetic video - however, it was inevitable at some point that the flood would happen again - and it's right on time. Every 30 or so years. Drained in 1920, flood in May 1948, flood in Nov 1990, Nov 2021.
@musiquefrique
@musiquefrique 2 года назад
Paybacks a birch.
@scotthanna46
@scotthanna46 2 года назад
What a narrator’s voice you have
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Thank you! It's always weird to hear your own voice, it's nice to hear this from somebody else. -Amanda
@brianvandorp25
@brianvandorp25 3 года назад
Amazing video! It's so amazing what a man can do when put their mind to something! It's an achievement that could never be accomplished nowadays unfortunately 😕
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
Thanks!
@CAIFAN3
@CAIFAN3 2 года назад
Aztecs, challenge accepted!
@panmic
@panmic 2 года назад
DO NOT attempt to fight with mother nature.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
Yet, collectively, we do. It is so strange.
@t-bonejones3576
@t-bonejones3576 2 года назад
This alone caused the extinction of 80% of the upper Fraser coho and about 30% of lower Fraser sockeye in one swoop. White sturgeon lost prime habitat and green sturgeon may have spawned there as well. Green sturgeon are now only found in rivers around San Francisco bay in California. However it was also the final nail in the coffin for malaria outbreaks in BC. People used to abandon the Capital at New Westminster every summer because of unbearable masses of mosquitos. Draining the lake killed off the species that carried the disease. Was the tradeoff worth it? I dunno
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
Personally, no. Nature has a way of keeping populations level and we've fought hard to have ours explode beyond any reasonable sustainability......
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
None of this is necessary. Please refrain from this sort of dialogue on this channel or you will be deleted. There is enough negativity in this world and this is not the place for it. Nor is blaming foreign countries. We are having a dialogue about Canada, not anywhere else. If you keep this up we will remove your messages.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
Fun story I came across writing a different article about this lake - the Malaria outbreak was only because Europeans brought the disease with them. Prior to that, there was only the annoyance of mosquitos but not the threat of disease from them.
@mariuspaul846
@mariuspaul846 2 года назад
This is where the message of treat the Indigenous People with dignity will be, or else.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We are currently in development of the documentary feature about the same topic, we are diving into the Indigenous story from pre-settler times, how they interacted with the first few minors and explorers came through and the tragic decision made by the settlers to drain away this almost 1000 year old lake. It's devastating what is happening now and it is a mirror for what happened then....
@breezybre2670
@breezybre2670 2 года назад
I'm sure the indigenous are enjoying the dairy, eggs, and meat as well. Not saying the lake should have been drained but don't act liek the only reason not to do it was because of first Nations people.
@spoke63
@spoke63 2 года назад
I don’t eat those items…
@darkenergy410
@darkenergy410 2 года назад
They get paid well
@kevinchavarria6792
@kevinchavarria6792 2 года назад
@@breezybre2670 The indigenous never gave a crap about dairy to begin with many are lactose intolerant btw. These farmlands were meant for a European diet since day 1 which now it got transformed into a modern Western diet.
@dginta7932
@dginta7932 2 года назад
Yup…
@kat-tiesangels5159
@kat-tiesangels5159 2 года назад
MOTHER GIAI'S REDEMPTION!The Creator states it will come back greener than ever as THE NEW EARTH, ADONAI
@fivehigh4718
@fivehigh4718 2 года назад
The lake and ice WILL be back, with humans or without.
@nikosmith6631
@nikosmith6631 2 года назад
Gonna be scary,when the big one hits.....all that farm land will liquefy.......
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
It's true. If left as a lake it would just.....upset the water... With three massive and costly floods so far (40s, 90's, 2021) i wonder how many times they will continue to rebuild. This one has a rough cost estimate of 500 million dollars to repair as it stands now. And that doesn't include the rest of the province. The Coquihalla will be another extremely costly repair....
@nikosmith6631
@nikosmith6631 2 года назад
@@amandachristmas9682 Being on a flood plain,and not being able to put flood insurace on one's property,says alot. I don't understand why people are willing to risk,your investment,home.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
I'm not fully certain either. There are quite a few flood plains in the lower mainland, like the Hatzic / Deroche / Sumas regions that all have high dollar value and a decent amount of residents. And then look at the rest of our current flooding issues, all of these cities and towns being built in low lying valleys along the river. Economically it makes sense for transport and ease of creating a sprawling community vs building on the side of an unreliable mountains edge... But I personally wouldn't take the chance.
@2buellerbelles
@2buellerbelles 2 года назад
the fish biome would not magically come back
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
This particular aquatic biome did house fish in the first place and fish would naturally find a way back to that habitat. However, we have decimated the sturgeon population worldwide. They managed to live in large and healthy populations for about 200 million years, but commercial fishing and human greed has decimated their populations. Our dams are also to blame for sturgeon decline as well as other fish. LUCKILY, biologists are restoring some populations in Mississippi, Missouri and St. Louis rivers but unfortunately exact locations can't be produced since they are scared of poachers. Sturgeon require time to develop - males reach mating maturity at 15yrs and females at 30 - so if that population were to thrive again in the lake, a team of biologists, and Sema:th would have to come together and protect the lake from people. Likely the lake would be closed off to public in a conservation effort. Other fish in the lake like cod, carp , pink salmon etc would naturally come back, or would adapt if introduced.
@conifergreen2
@conifergreen2 2 года назад
Who were these Europeans? They were not Canadians?
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Strangely, it wasn't the Canadians partaking in the Gold Rush in the way we think. Hudson's Bay had only set up an outpost in 1843 and was primarily involved in the fur trade. When gold was discovered by James Douglas he sent the samples to San Francisco and in 1857 people from California, Oregon, Australia, Mexico, European countries, and China came over to find their fortunes. 1858 was when BC became a colony under the British Empire. New West became the trading post they would stop at for supplies and provisions. Semá:th Xόtsa (Sumas Lake) was a secondary spot for miners stop before hitting the mountains. Eventually people decided to stay there and farm and set up feed lots for the prospectors work animals...... All of this done, of course, without any consideration for the people who were already living there. If you read a lovely book called "Before We Drain The Lake" by Chad Reimer - he also explains that various Europeans and Americans were surveying the land to create a border and found themselves hiring the Sumas First Nations to help them navigate. We are also currently creating a feature length documentary about the history. Here's a reference to dog more if you're interested.... goldrushtrail.ca/history/
@darkenergy410
@darkenergy410 2 года назад
Was asians also really sucks how everyone just loves to blame europeans for all their woes
@conifergreen2
@conifergreen2 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms Interesting. Thanks for the explanation. Like throughout human history, desperate people do desperate things. I can only imagine how hard life must have been before electricity and motor vehicles and social programs to get people through hard times. Before knowledge of how the world and the universe works. It must have been hard for native peoples too. No eyeglasses, no modern medicine, no steel tools or steel cookware and not even horses. Probably many died young. No wonder wars were fought between different tribes over resources. We are so lucky today with what we have. Not much is said about the suffering and sacrifice that these people must have endured in those days.
@julieschutzenhofer3667
@julieschutzenhofer3667 2 года назад
How was this posted 9 months ago lol??? Wtf
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We made the movie about the history of the area and found out through research what would happen if the pumps failed. BC hydro actually has a specific order in which they repair outages and the Barrowtown pumps are #2 on the list of importance. #1 being hospitals. We thought it was interesting and unfortunately it is now relevant.
@jeeplivion
@jeeplivion 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms ahhhhhh y'all jinxed it 😂😂😅😅
@urbanwarchief
@urbanwarchief 2 года назад
If this could happen to a human pump imagine a nuclear reactor several years from now
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
There are a lot of technologies we have developed to control and manipulate nature, if they fail, the outcome would be unimaginable. We've also had a lot of great successes, however, we are being told right now, under no certain circumstances, we need to change how we interact with our environment.
@urbanwarchief
@urbanwarchief 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms maybe people should listen
@Sinaduel
@Sinaduel 2 года назад
2:40 I guess the answer is yes, yes we would.
@JilSoniaMcDonald
@JilSoniaMcDonald 2 года назад
It was our peoples waterway, our transport route to other First Nations Communities.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
It should still be! We are on the side of the lake and the Sto:lo peoples....
@brianweir9885
@brianweir9885 2 года назад
at the risk of sounding ignorant.... I don't understand your point? once the water was gone there was no other way to travel across that land? Like horses/cars couldn't reach the other communities?
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
@@brianweir9885 I want to start by saying thank you for bringing this up. I see this sentiment a lot and this is written with a tone of patience and knowledge and not from a negative place. The point Jil may have been making (and Jil may correct me if I'm off base) is that for 11k years Sema:th, like other Indigenous people, had developed a system of using this lake and river system as it was. Indigenous people on Turtle Island had vast and complex trade networks built on waterways. This specific lake was a mutually beneficial relationship - it allowed them to travel and eat, and in turn, they didn't over take and the lake continued to flourish which ended up housing vast populations of large animals like elk and bear, smaller animals, massive schools of fish and over 250 well populated bird species. There's a really interesting course I would highly recommend at Indigenous Relations Academy. In the course that is linked at the bottom it teaches that the only reason Indigenous people were seen as a lesser culture was because of the colonized system of "intelligence". This lesser than meant that the newly found communities life and opinions didn't matter to those settling in the area - and their brilliant and rich knowledge of the land was often only used to learn the area and then they were burned or drained out of their land. Here are the two big factors that Europeans used to rank newly "discovered" societies. 1) The Wheel. English colonialists thought you were more primitive if you didn't use the wheel however, FN in the pacific northwest, and quite a few other areas through Colorado and other mountainous and heavily treed areas found using waterways was much more efficient and they didn't have to cut the trees down to create roads. They built the trade routes on the rivers - and because none were artificially dammed by humans there was more of a net across the continent that connected more areas. Wheel here would have been ridiculous. We can't imagine this net now because of all of the re-directing we have done. America almost doesn't have a river that makes it to the ocean. 2) Written language. Indigenous culture is heavily reliant on oral history and it was taken very seriously. Stories were meticulously passed down and it was/is a cherished historical practice. We can't even say our written language is more accurate than oral at this point - it's been written and doctored by those who believe they are the victor. Religious texts have been doctored to suit leadership (King James bible) and all translations are subject to error. It is arrogant to think written history is better than oral history. Anyway - these reasons were main reasons Indigenous people were deemed less than by Europeans. This snowballed into thinking the Indigenous people didn't have any attachment to the land and we can do whatever we wanted. In the case of the Sema:th - their harmonious lifestyle was destroyed when John Lord came in and MOWED the marsh because his foreign cattle didn't take well to the native grass in the area. This changed the landscape and the attitude of settlers who then worked against the land and drained the lake, instead of building on higher ground as the Sema:th did. (there were other people who were catalysts for change but Lord was the biggest cringe in my opinion. He destroyed an entire wetland ecosystem with a lawnmower. Please read Before We Lost The Lake by Chad Reimer if you are interested in learning the other folks) The point is we never should have drained the lake and we never should have treated Indigenous people as less than. It wasn't ours (Europeans/Asian/South American etc) and the Sema:th said no. We didn't' listen because we felt superior and to this day that level of institutional racism still exists. Look at the comments of some people on this video or on the videos of Wet'suwet'en protests. This systemic discrimination leads to the lack of history and importance of the place we now occupy to the Indigenous people who managed it for time immemorial. Here's a link to the course. My employer paid for it (it's part of their training fund, they also highly recommended all of our staff take it for clarity as we work on unceded territory) www.indigenousrelationsacademy.com/collections/training I'm happy to answer any questions you may have about this if you are wanting a respectful dialogue. Full disclosure - as the author - I am the daughter of a British mother and 6th generation Canadian, dad side also European with pastoral connections up until about 1915. I'm learning not only this history to understand better, but also to understand how my family may have had a negative role in some of the lives of Indigenous people. I also work along side several Indigenous communities creating visual content and fighting for land back/rights and the right to be treated as with sovereignty.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
@@shifty7739 I warned you to stop spreading misinformation. You are now unable to communicate on our channel. And for anybody else reading this - you may have open dialogue on our channel if you are at least respectful. Trolls will be hidden from our channel not because we don't like differing opinions, but we do not tolerate full blown misinformation, rude, or harassing comments.
@JilSoniaMcDonald
@JilSoniaMcDonald 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms thank you!!
@verselmao
@verselmao 2 года назад
well i think we're fucked lads
@Christinetish
@Christinetish 2 года назад
Thank you Ray Silver. Just another reminder of all we've done wrong to the earth. Sigh!!
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
What we are capable of doing is making decisions going forward that would make him proud.....
@st-dm5mr
@st-dm5mr 2 года назад
Good effort. Reasonable video but with sad undertones of the usual 2021 mantra of nature lost. There was 606,000 people in BC in 1926 (Stats Canada), most in the Vancouver/Fraser Valley region. Today there is just over 5 million, nearly 3 million in the Vancouver/Fraser Valley. People gotta live. People gotta eat. In the recovery from the current flooding, the agricultural production will return just as it did from the annual flooding around the lake before it was "choked". Some of it may even be better with new sediment and distribution of all the cattle poop. A mention might be in order of the 100,000s of thousands, maybe millions of people who are now provided food from this Lost Lake and surrounding floodplain. Mother Nature is one tough b+^@h. Humans are the delicate flowers she can/does/will drop at any time.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We did make this well before this flood happened. And that tone is prevalent because we truly are running out of time and humanity needs to make some drastic changes to continue existing in any meaningful way. We do need housing, we do need food we *do not* need all of the other luxuries in the way we are consuming them. We are truly wasting our resources and over consuming them on trivial things that are not required for a base standard of living. There is a privilege that goes along with our North American lifestyle that we now collectively think is a right, and it's going to be our demise. Also, if you are listening to the scientists, the area, flooded or not, will contain contaminations for a time to come. There are some "fertilizers" and there are a lot of toxic chemicals, dead animals, and other contaminations that will cause health problems for us, animals and growing our food for some time to come. It never should have been drained in the first place - and now that it is, we've created a different economy around it. We have exploited nature in a way to grow our population in an artificially sustainable way. If we only farmed where the land naturally suited farming, we would grow our population at a more reasonable rate like all other species. Our manipulation has over populated areas that can't sustain our life if nature takes her place back. None of us (biologists, environmentalists, geologists, etc) are saying "let everybody starve", what we are saying is this entire view of life as we know it is unsustainable and these very devastating events will happen more rapidly and with more consequences and damage if we don't find a solution to our overconsumption. Scientists have been trying to get ahead of this for 50 years, and now the water is boiling and we don't know how to climb out of it without the feeling of loss and inconvenience.
@ManiDzn
@ManiDzn 2 года назад
Pump just failed
@Thefreakingwierd1
@Thefreakingwierd1 2 года назад
No not yet ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FM1xwaqtnpg.html
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
I also heard it failed from somebody within the city. I hope it is a trigger response. This will be like nothing you've ever witnessed if it fails.
@SIERRAnBC
@SIERRAnBC 2 года назад
No, all 4 are still running as of an hour & a half ago, if you watch the video link posted below by Thefreakinwierd1. One had a problem earlier & they fixed it.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
@@SIERRAnBC Oh good. I heard the one was puttering about but I didn't know they fixed it. Here's hoping it holds out.
@Fresh84
@Fresh84 2 года назад
I feel like the woman singing is drowning out the narrator
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Thanks for your comment, sorry it took so long to get back to you. We mixed in and used several speaker systems to determine the level and it seems on some random headphones and speakers the music is still loud. We are taking this into consideration for future projects and adding a few more audio tests to our arsenal.
@BcBudGaming
@BcBudGaming 2 года назад
ohh we'll drain it again that's for sure, were gonna drain the shit outta that hole
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
While it seems like we will - the cost will be astronomical. Back in 1920 they spent the equivalent of 20 million to initially build the pumps, and we've been spending about half a million a year since then (adjusted for inflation throughout a century) to keep the land dry. With the repairs to these pumps if they fail, plus the damage to the houses and business from Chilliwack down to the border will be astronomical. The timeline will also be quite substantial since we are also rebuilding the entire infrastructure that has been damaged from Abbotsford to Hope. This is going to be a long haul for sure.
@mrmaphousa4349
@mrmaphousa4349 2 года назад
Perfect farmland, maybe we should ask the dutch if our system compares to theirs?
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
This day and age we should be moving away from the Zuiderzeewerken and Deltawerken (dam systems, land reclamation, water drainage works) and learn how to work with the land we were given instead of against it. When this area floods again, and it will, it will be another trillion dollars to fix. If we work with the land and understand it's natural patterns and resources, we could better utilize the space and be more productive without habitat fragmentation, wiping out entire ecosystems, species populations etc. Even the Dutch member of our crew is all for moving away from the human "progress" of the environment. This isn't saying we want starvation and no jobs. There's a better way to do it and the government and industry sector have been told - in detail - how to pull it off and they won't listen.
@scottitheyogichef
@scottitheyogichef 2 года назад
I lived in Bellingham 25 years, learned this many years ago. My heart goes out to everyone affected, but kill the pump and let mother nature have it back.
@jeeplivion
@jeeplivion 2 года назад
Oh so you're saying we should have a mini nature genocide continue on?
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
If we don't adjust how we interact with the planet we live on we will continue these "nature genocides" you speak of. Indigenous people lived here for about 25 thousand years, there was about 60 million residents in what we now call North America. They had no problems living within their means with nature and still enjoyed beautiful and richly complex lives. There needs to be a re-connection between humanity and mother earth. Right now we think we can control her, and that is not the case. We are learning the hard way.
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 2 года назад
I imagine it was a mosquito paradise back then.
@sugarebaresnuffy
@sugarebaresnuffy 2 года назад
It was beautiful and serene i am sure. Then white man came and ephed it all up. I say let the lake return
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
If the pumps blow and the place clouds fully back - I agree to keep the lake. It sucks for those farming, however insurance doesn't cover you for flooding when you build on a lake bed (weird I know) .... We lose farm land that never should have existed.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Keep checking back, we are developing a feature length documentary right now.
@christianhamel4862
@christianhamel4862 2 года назад
Mother nature is taking it back,... its a 80km that the world misses just for the benefits of careless about the earth farmers,... you feed the world with shit Lord gives it back, and 2021 Lord on Sumas Lake means alot of his intentions 🙏 to replace his creations,... not just BC but all around the world it's Karmaguedon
@christianhamel4862
@christianhamel4862 2 года назад
I have a completed searches about Sumas Mountain Road and Lakes, just go on my public Facebook page, just letting you know that I am living on Yarrow central road, so every news it is good or bad one's
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
You are right in the middle of it. I hope the situation is starting to at least ease up a bit.
@saratroy
@saratroy 2 года назад
and It is happening again right now 100 times worse.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Precisely! The specifics of Sumas flooding is exactly as the flood models predicted for the area, however, that flood model didn't include the rest of the flood plains in lower BC. This has been described as catastrophic as "the big one" we've all been hearing about our whole lives. Stay safe.
@darkenergy410
@darkenergy410 2 года назад
It wasn't much of a lake very shallow . More of a back water in technical terms
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
A lake is any relatively large body of slowly moving or standing water that occupies an inland basin of appreciable size. Backwater doesn't fully explain it, a backwater is a part of a river not reached by the current, where the water is stagnant. This was definitely a lake.
@pzflo
@pzflo 2 года назад
Borrowed the land for a while
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We are only ever borrowing this land. We do not own it. We should be it's guardian for future generations of humans, animals, and vegetation...
@bedardpelchat
@bedardpelchat 2 года назад
Perhaps if we could have pumped out all the water off the Atlantic ocean all aboard the Titanic might have been saved. This story is of the same level of absurdity. It is really sad to see what's happening now. That calls for a real rethinking of this in light of climate change.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
Your statement is a false equivalency, and while we are all entitled to our own opinions - those of experts in their field outweigh those who aren't. This documentary, and others we work on are vetted through scientists and experts we are working with while we are shooting. Climate change is real, this is not up for debate. If you don't believe it, maybe you aren't a fit for our channel.
@DCSPORTSTER
@DCSPORTSTER 2 года назад
@@BricklightFilms Got news for you climate has been changing since beginning of time and man is not gonna change climate change
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
@@DCSPORTSTER unless you are a scientist who works directly with the various aspects of our climate you are not an expert in this field. Expert's facts and opinions are more heavily weighed than the average Joe. I work directly with people who study this, they live this, they test their hypothesis, they present their findings and generally, by and large, have a better idea than the rest of the general population about what our effects are as humanity on the climate. I'll personally be using their expert knowledge in my articles and scripts.
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
@@darkenergy410 Political science studies politics. I'm talking environmental scientists. There is a difference, and we should be listening to the experts in the field we are looking at. Looking at how our manipulation of nature is affecting future patterns - the branches of Environmental science are Social Sciences, Geosciences, Environmental Chemistry, Ecology, Atmospheric Sciences. Nowhere in there is politics. Our politicians should be listening to the environmental scientists as a whole, and making policies based on the informed recommendations from the professionals. Instead they are listening to industry.....
@cmpunk604
@cmpunk604 2 года назад
What purpose would the lake do that is better than feeding the large amount of people now in the world? This isnt primitive times anymore.....
@amandachristmas9682
@amandachristmas9682 2 года назад
The purpose is, it had existed naturally since the ice age melt and was the home to semath first Nations, as well a large number of species. Not everything exists for us to exploit.
@jeeplivion
@jeeplivion 2 года назад
Oh ya why do you need farms if grocery stores exist 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@wacey7455
@wacey7455 2 года назад
@@jeeplivion you are being sarcastic, but this is how City people actually think.
@jeeplivion
@jeeplivion 2 года назад
@@wacey7455 I live in the city but belong in the woods lol.
@BricklightFilms
@BricklightFilms 2 года назад
We at Bricklight Films live in a city and we don't actually all think this way in the cities. A lot of us are trying to do the right thing and are being roadblocked by government legislation and red tape. Our laws force industry to profit off our natural resources. We are punished for protecting them. Example, if a forestry tenure is transferred from a company to a First Nations community, that First Nations community is bound by law to make profit off the tenure or risk getting heavily fined for not removing the trees and taking a conservation approach. We are stymied by legislation that the people don't have a say in. The big industrial complex and government make these decisions on our behalf and it is very hard to get out of it once passed into law.
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