@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich - I admire your humility but I think that you should give yourself more credit. And, based on the comments left by others viewers of your videos, there are plenty of people who agree with me. My family have subscribed to your channel too. I hope this helps.
Well, little did I know when I walked up Pottergate yesterday passing the strangers cafe I would be watching your next video the day after, another interesting video John, I used to use the strangers cafe a lot, the yard next to it has a sign on the wall explaining it was a place where the strangers lived in the period your video Covers. Thanks John Keep them coming
Personally, I found this a gripping and most illuminating video - for reasons already known to you. Thank you. Well, well - Strangers Hall and all that goes with the name. Under my nose, so to speak, and out in plain view all the time! The parallels with Tudor (and later) London's treatment of their Strangers is striking - and maybe not at all coincidental. The Tudor and Jacobean church in London was relatively liberal too with granting places of worship to them but naturally enough kept them on a very tight chain for organisational and theological reasons; the Laudian establishment in particular, not wanting to encourage home-grown English Puritanism. I am not at all sure that the Restoration London church (let alone the intervening Commonwealth and its Dutch wars) restored their privileges, if at all. With the ousting of the Henrician relic (and ex-Benedictine conservative, I believe) Bishop William Rugge from Norwich c1549, and his replacement by a more pliable Cranmerian trustie, Norwich and East England would doubtless have become increasingly fertile and welcoming ground for Protestantism and hence too for a established continental Protestant presence - but no Anabaptist types, please (LOL)! The demographic weight of the Strangers presence in Norwich's population at that time you detail did surprise me, though. Fascinating. Surprised too that the Dutch connection lasted sooo long...
Thank you so much for your fascinating and interesting reply. I will read it again and again to understand fully the details you have given. Thank you.
This was a very interesting topic - I learnt so much! Thank you for your extensive research into the subject. You found some great pictures to go along with the narrative too.
Great video John - I’ve been really enjoying the heritage month of September enabling me to visit some places in Norwich which are normally inaccessible unfortunately Strangers Hall wasn’t included this year but I’ll keep an eye out for next year - thanks for sharing and hope you’re well 🙂
There's a St Margaret's Plain in (whisper it)..... Ipswich. Were the French-speakers Huguenots? I think St Mary the Less was a Huguenot church; and unfortunately due to its abandonment there's uncertainty over who owns it. A minor point of order, Belgium didn't exist until after the final defeat of Napoleon. The territory probably changed hands multiple times over the centuries. As always, thanks for another fascinating video.
Hi Geoff. Thanks for clarifying that bit about Belgium. I think the people we understand to be the Huguenots fled the country in the 17th century, so a bit later than these strangers. But there may well have been an overlap.
The term Low Countries would have doubtless been used at the time to encompass Flanders and the Netherlands - in use since the early Middle Ages. The Huguenots were primarily French - not all from Northern France. They came en masse to England after their expulsion by Louis XIV in 1685: he did this by revoking an earlier royal Edict of 1598 granting toleration to French Protestants in an attempt to end the post-Reformation 16th Century Wars of Religion there, in France. The Huguenots brought their bourgeois commercial skills and (notably) weaving trade with them to England's benefit.
Really informative thank you. It is interesting that the Strangers influenced the language. I think that the missing ‘s’ remains absent from the Norwich dialect.
Dwile flunking was very popular in Norfolk in the late sixties and early seventies, but it seemed to die out not long after. A pity, as it was great fun to watch and take part. Probably be banned now on H & S grounds now - ! 😁
Another interesting posting John,visiting Strangers Hall when I was a child always made me feel uneasy for some reason! I’ve been quite a few times as an adult and the place is a step back in history,a long overdue revisit is in order! Thank you John.
Another great video John, thank you. I had read that using Dutch as a pejorative (double Dutch, Dutch courage) came to prominence when Britain was at war with that nation at a later date than the Elizabethan Strangers were settling. Much the same happened with French during the Napoleonic wars and during my childhood (at the height of the Troubles) when Irishness was the butt of playground jokes.
Excellent post John. Very interesting. I'd love to know the history of the Dutch/Flemish influence out in the county. What part they played in the shaping of the landscape with their knowledge of drainage. I've noticed a lot of"Dutch end" buildings out and about in Norfolk.
Hi Andrew, I don't know about drainage, but this may be of interest. www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Dutch-In-Norfolk/#:~:text=Norfolk%20received%20a%20huge%20boost,county%2C%20inspired%20by%20Dutch%20styles.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich Thank you for the link John. I thought the drainage that took place around the Broads/Yarmouth, then out into the Fens (Cambridgeshire) was the work of our Dutch and Flemish friends... I will investigate...
This was absolutely fascinating and filled with so many fun facts. I loved the picture of Queen Elizabeth I visiting Norwich. It was very interesting to learn that the term 'Plain" is of Dutch origin and does not appear in other areas of the UK.
After leaving Norwich I’ve lived in the Netherlands for the past 26 years and it never struck me either! The Dutch term is “plein” and famous examples would be Rembrandtplein and Leidseplein in Amsterdam. Here in The Hague one of the most popular squares for eating and drinking, situated right next to the Parliament, is simply known as “Plein”!
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich There are several in Yarmouth and Gorleston too. Seems the Dutch had a great influence on the borough in the past. There was a Dutch Chapel on South Quay.
Great video John - I’ve been really enjoying the heritage month of September enabling me to visit some places in Norwich which are normally inaccessible unfortunately Strangers Hall wasn’t included this year but I’ll keep an eye out for next year - thanks for sharing and hope you’re well 🙂
Great video John - I’ve been really enjoying the heritage month of September enabling me to visit some places in Norwich which are normally inaccessible unfortunately Strangers Hall wasn’t included this year but I’ll keep an eye out for next year - thanks for sharing and hope you’re well 🙂
Great video John - I’ve been really enjoying the heritage month of September enabling me to visit some places in Norwich which are normally inaccessible unfortunately Strangers Hall wasn’t included this year but I’ll keep an eye out for next year - thanks for sharing and hope you’re well 🙂
