Lol Lolylol Well he was forced to change because he's lost his power. Je would die if he didn't conform. Well he did probably feel sorry for murdering Locke and Jacob. I feel like he would eventually try to rebuild the others and take the lead again.
Same: I just watched the new Brad Anderson movie. He directed a dozen or so great Fringe episodes that Graham Roland wrote. I IMDB'd Rolands filmography and was shocked to find this Lost Epilogue... I'm only 10 years late
S. L. P. Don’t feel bad. I saw the original series run. I have season 1-4 DVD’s. I clearly need to complete my dvd set. “Husband..., I have an anniversary request....!” ☺️
Ben is an absolutely incredible character and Michael Emerson's portrayal of of him is top notch. I'm so glad he won an Emmy and was recognized for his work on Lost.
Make Vincent the island guardian. He’s been having the time of his life there and he’ll get to be immortal. Plus, he’ll never corrupt anyone, wage war, or reveal the island’s secrets to anyone. It's the perfect solution.
@@gengarvenom1180 ya i hear ya.. i mean im not one to complain about show endings and after finally seeing it.. it wasnt as bad as i thought or what i feel people made it out to be.. but the lead up to it all of season 6 was all over the place and then all the sudden.. eps like the one explaining jacob and the man in black finally at the end out of nowhere when that should have been way in the beginning at some point maybe late season 5 or early season 6 but to just throw it at the end.. it seemed like they just threw it in there as an after thought and were like oh crap we forgot to explain an integral part of the story right at the end it was so out of no where and yet didnt really explain anything we truly wanted to know
I am glad he brought Walter to the island. He was meant to have a bigger role on the show but since the entire 6 years of the show is actually 6 weeks on the island and because the actor was growing he could no longer play a 12 years old so he was let go
I've watched the entire LOST series at least a dozen times start to finish and random episodes many more times. Only today did I find this epilogue. I can't believe it's been nearly TWENTY years since LOST first aired. To this day it's my favorite show.
Only discovered this epilogue today, thanks to Reddit, watching on my phone while my 3 year old watched RU-vid on our TV. Just as it was showing Walt playing Connect 4, my son was watching Blippi, of all things, playing with a giant Connect 4 at the exact same time. Major eerie lost vibes in that moment :D
This makes the Dharma vs Others conflict much more understandable if Dharma was kidnapping and drugging their people, love the depth and closure this epilogue adds to the show, especially with Walt and his connection with the island
Feel very proud of my self for figuring out that they used the Polar bears the move the wheel that Ben moves. You see a polar bear skeleton in a desert found by Charlotte
@@andrefigueiredo4805 you'd be surprised how many people bash the show for "not giving answers", when in reality most of the mysteries were answered, but flew over their heads....
@@usernameRika Honestly I think this show was meant for people to group up and find answers rather than the show telling you everything. Like look at people now with new shows. There are discussion forums every week for an episode that comes out plus people speculating what comes next. The views (and money) are from people wanting answers so they tune in every week.
When Ben told Walt he needed to help his father I think he meant that he needs to help Michael find peace with himself from the sins he's committed (killing Ana Lucia and Libby and betraying his friends)
@@ultravioletpisces3666 Yeah thing is Walt and Michael weren't in the church in the finale so could be a thing maybe where Michael moved on long ago and Walt is maybe the one who takes Hugo's place.
You know I never thought of this! Although, weirdly enough Jacks body (where he "awoken" from after putting the plug back in the heart of the island) was in the exact spot MIBs body was after he went into the cave as well. There is a theory that Jack is the New protector, the security system, on what ACTUALLY WANTS to be there, unlike Barry!
It was done because the series didn't answer 1/100 of all questions it created through six seasons and was heavily criticized for it. With this epilogue, it answered 2/100.
I would have kept these guys on staff. If they're going to continue living on the island, might as well have a regular airdrop of food that can't be found on a tropical island.
I like to think that Ben is closing down only the irrelevant warehouses, this one, for example, could be just for the animals that are already dead anyway
@@sophiejleonard I hope you've been listening to some of the re-watch podcasts. I'm listening to Post Show Recaps and we made it to the last episode this week.
@Bayram thanks for asking. Keep in mind that The 100 would never have been made if it wasn’t for Lost and Battlestar Gallactica. There’s a lot that’s both similar and different and strengths and weaknesses to both. The way The 100 writes female characters is vastly superior to Lost. Storylines don’t spin their wheels, there isn’t as much plot armour, storylines intersect with others and create new ones. However, Lost takes much more time (albeit too much at times) to flesh people and the world the characters inhabit out than The 100, even though the former has more padding and flab than the latter. I’m approaching the endgame of series two out of seven now. The 100 strikes me as leaner with a stronger story structure. The writers have a guideline, courtesy of Cass Morgan. The 100 is more sci-fi and post-apocalyptic and doesn’t feel so dragged out. Lost has the mystery, the truly bizarre and the towering performances of Emerson and O’Quinn in particular on its side and nothing will ever touch that.
Dont think so, the bird almost is some sort of egypt "demi" Horus, but the writers probably just forgot/dropped the idea to make it even more confusing and just changed it to genetic experiments.
Finished watching it for the second time. All 06 seasons in two weeks binge. You really want to watch this again if you need to fully understand the storyline.
This is awesome, I've never seen this. The one worker with the curly hair is the voice of Darkseid in that Zack Snyder Justice League cut coming out next year
I just finished my binge, so glad they made this now I know what happened to pregnant women...but I wish they would have explained more about Walter's powers
Walt has the ability to manipulate electromagnetism. It's why he can astrally project, why he can make it rain and why he made the bird fly into his window. It's all electromagnetism. Birds use the EM field to fly north, they're living compasses and Walt can manipulate that field into making true north wherever he wants. Its why the island would move too, because its filled with massive amounts of electromagnetic energy. It's why he can throw the knife so precise too, he manipulated the energies to work around the metal and guide it into the tree. Just look up Walt's electro magnetic powers on Google. Like, type that in and you're set.
@@nathanmills335 *Walt has the ability to manipulate electromagnetism.* No, he has not. *It's why he can astrally project,* He cant, and he did not. Where did you see that? *why he can make it rain* Electromagnetism has nothing to do with that. That would be either gravity+thermo dynamics... *and why he made the bird fly into his window.* He did not. His powers is absolute unempathic behaviors. He did not care about the bird, thats why his Stepdad was afraid, he is a psychopath most likely. *It's all electromagnetism.* That has for sure a major role in the show, but has nothing to do with Walt. *Birds use the EM field to fly north, they're living compasses* That has for sure to do with their flying pathes but we dont know exactly everything about it. *and Walt can manipulate that field into making true north wherever he wants.* No he still has not. And your defintion of "true" north is wrong, it is absolutely not true north anymore if it can be anywhere... *Its why the island would move too, because its filled with massive amounts of electromagnetic energy.* The island has strange electromagnetism, that is clear. But there is absolutely 0 evidence and nothing have been told about why electromagnetism would move the island at all. *It's why he can throw the knife so precise too, he manipulated the energies to work around the metal and guide it into the tree.* That is the first time you have a little sense making argument. But its not even close to be of a real conclusion. *Just look up Walt's electro magnetic powers on Google. Like, type that in and you're set.* One can do that, but you would only follow quiet faded and empty pseudo conclusions.
@Melly385 Haha, who tells you that it was Walt... dont laugh and think with using buzzwording like "astralprojecting" you explained and proved anything...
@@Maazitung No, it was the regular food drops as well. Did you notice all of the canned food in the wide shots? Don't forget the granola bars. It would be in Hurley's character to not want to food drops, but it's horrifically irresponsible to stop them when he's building a new community of "others" on the island. What are they supposed to do, hunt boar and eat mangoes? That'll hurt the recruiting numbers significantly. Should have kept the drops coming, and fixed up the barracks. Hurley doesn't need the drops himself anymore, he's immortal, but damn think of your people.
Ben in this is the the writers rolling their eyes at us for caring about answers to the 'unnecessary stuff' when we should've only cared about the magic Cork and the good vs evil super battle 🙄
@@kuhpunkt we got more questions then answer bruh, plus the numbers didnt matter, jacob litterly said kate could have the job if she wanted to, i could write you a whole book on u answered questions or the dumb answers of " its a magic island"
Damn i decided today to start watching Lost again, as i have forgotten what even happened. I just remember loving this show as a kid/teen but not understanding much of it. Then again i started watching Lost as it aired when i was 9 until i was 14/15. But man i didn't know there was an epilogue to this show i was just researching wiki reading the finale eps to understand what happened again (clearly i don't remember a thing it seems like i had another ending in my mind) and that's when i saw that there was an extra 10 mins and walt ends up in a mental hospital.
OMG they should do a new serie in a few years, with Walt being the new Jacob, seeing the survivors (Kate, Sawyer, Claire, Aaron, (maybe Jin and Sun’s daughter) and a lot of other people!), having more answers to our questions on the show and other things!
@@burncycle4621 true but they already showed they all died I'd doubt they would make a series about what happened before that especially since it was so long ago
@@deannamay3109 Yeah, they wouldn’t go back and make a show about their lives since we’ve already seen their “happily ever after”. The only one would be Walt, or maybe even Linus, since he had some “things to work out”.
Didn't seem like much severance pay after he said, "I'd say you can do pretty much anything you want". I interpreted as he meant, no need to worry about work. I was expecting a cheque with a ridiculous amount of zeros lol
A makeover from this series is like wanting to repaint Leonardo Da Vinci's masterpiece La Gioconda. It better stay as it is. A sequel with other characters is a much better guess, but maybe it's even better that it ends like this. If we want our sequel we have our imagination and we can imagine what we want.
@Dan S the simple answer of this was "Walter can Time travel" You can see the adult form of Walt along the show . after this ge turn back in time to save mick once
I'm glad they explained why there were some strange findings of animals on the island and why mother's couldn't conceive on the island. I don't believe that was in the original show but maybe they were hinted at
No they explained why random animals were on the island it was because the dharma initiative did weird experiments on them in season 5 it’s explained a bit I think
@@reubenshupe2273 why don't you visit trakt.tv/shows/lost-2004/seasons/0 and check it yourself. I use this website very frequently for such details. (I am not affiliated or compensated anyway in this)
I'm assuming they are going to train him (for many years) for when Hurley dies or retires or whatever, instead of just dropping him into the job like how most of the other got it)
how did the machine know where the island is at all times? couldn't widmore or ben have used that in season 5 to know where to go? instead of doing the whole thing with daniel's mom
Ben says that the machine is receiving automated reports from the Lamp Post station. The Lamp Post station is the room with the pendulum that Eloise Hawking uses in Season 5 to locate the island. In other words, Daniel's Mom and the warehouse guys are working off of the exact same source of information. It can be presumed that Widmore didn't know about the Lamp Post or the pallet drops.
There is no "still" though. Hurley and Ben might have worked on the island for another 1000 years and they still ended up in the church with Jack. They could wait - it makes no difference.
@@kuhpunkt *Exactly ~ Anyone who died from Jacob and MIB's Mother, to someone 100,000 years after the events of Season 6 would be in purgatory at the exact same time - plus it goes back to the old adage: when you die, the universe dies ~*
Well, I made my own mini-series to try and explain some loose ends from where this episode ended. Enjoy. ----------------------------------------------- CONTINUATION FROM THE NEW MAN IN CHARGE... Hurley tells Walt he seeks some explanation about the extent of Walt's power. He asks Walt how did he manage to appear to Locke after he left the Island with Michael. Walt asks Hurley what he's talking about. Hurley says he can talk to dead people, and Locke told him that Walt saved his life by appearing to him after he got shot from Ben. Hurley says he knows it was not the smoke monster, because the smoke monster can only impersonate dead people. Walt asks what is the Smoke Monster. Hurley deflects the question and ask Walt to answer his question first. Walt says he has strange dreams since he was a kid. That once he dreamed about that scene and someone called Jacob told him what to tell Locke. Walt says he never knew that was real. Hurley says to him that it was real. Hurley asks him if he had any other strange dreams about events on the island. Walt says he dreamed about Shannon a couple of times when he was a captive of the Others. Hurley asks if anything strange happened to him besides that. Walt says that birds flock to him sometimes. And die. Hurley asks if there's anything else. Walt says no. Hurley tells Walt that he is no more who he used to be. That after some events Walt is not aware of, he can summon dead people on the island to talk to him, anyone but those that had the job before him. Walt asks what is his job. Hurley says that all he needs to know is that it was Jacob's job. And for a short time, Jack's. Hurley said that one evil man that once lived in the island can be summoned, and that man told him that Walt, and just Walt, could visit people that had Hurley's job in the past. Walt says he does not know what to say, that he knows nothing about it. Hurley says sorry to Walt, that the bad man probably lied to him, and asks Ben to send Walt back. As Walt walks away with Ben, he turns around and ask Hurley if he was talking about 'Cecil'. Hurley and Ben gets excited. Hurley says maybe. Walt says he once dreamed with a man called 'Cecil', but he most certainly didn't live in the island, or any island. Walt says Cecil looked very ancient to him, and tried to get information from Walt. Information he did not have. As of saying that, a bird hits a tree and die, catching the attention of Hurley, Walt and Ben.
PART II The camera fades in from the clouds to a portion of land that is obviously a continent, but unidentifiable. As it comes closer, it pans to a city. As it pans to the city, it pans to a plaza. It's an ancient town, probably from the Bronze Age. A very rich and prosperous town. One man is getting water from a well. Other man comes running to him and said in a strange language that Epix found it. The man at the well says, calmly and ironically, that he's very excited. He drops the water and follows the running man, without a hurry. They enter a temple. There's a man with a papyrus called Epix. Epix says, while looking at the papyrus, that he found it. He found the last number. He shows the papyrus to the other men. The man that was at the well (Well Man from now on) says they don't even know the number's effect is real. Epix says it's certainly real. He says that for a long time, man from this land and foreign lands knew that some individual numbers hold some power. Some numbers bring luck, others bring misfortune. 7 is a lucky number. 4 is the opposite. Epix says that people made talismans with those lucky numbers, and avoided the others like plague since the dawn of men. Epix kisses a talisman with a character written in an unidentifiable writing system, supposedly a lucky number. Epix says that, what people before them lacked understanding, is that those numbers could be brought together. And that by being together, they were more powerful and their effect more decisive. The Well Man asks how could Epix know for sure he got the right numbers. Epix says that through extensive traveling and research he found all the candidate numbers that proved efficient, and discarded others that were not. He says he combined the numbers in rows of two and three and saw misfortune and luck happens to people around him as he increased the set, proving that the numbers, when used together, vastly enhance their unique power. The man who previously ran to the Well Man (Running Man from now on) asks how Epix can control luck and misfortune if he uses both bad and good numbers. Epix says that the use of mixed numbers give immense luck to those who use it, and bad luck to others. But only if the set is incomplete. He said that once the set is complete, the numbers give way to their original meaning. The Running Man asks what's the original meaning. Epix responds he doesn't know. That they must find out. The camera than shows a hidden Walt listening to all that was said by those strange, ancient men in an ancient town.
PART III Walt wakes up violently from a dream. He runs to Hurley and Ben, and says he just had a dream. A dream about people talking about some numbers in an ancient town. Hurley and Ben gets excited. Hurley asks what did he see about the numbers. Walt proceeds to explain the dream to Hurley and Ben. Hurley says that it was not a dream. He lived that moment, like he lived the moment with Locke and Shannon. Walt asks what he must do about it. Hurley says he is sure Walt will find out.
PART IV Back in the ancient temple, the Well Man asks Epix how does he know that he has the full set of numbers. Epix answers that, because the cycle of luck and misfortune stopped once he changed the meaning of one number, the set must be complete. Epix continues by saying he discovered 8 special numbers. One of those numbers is the number 7, the most potent lucky number, discovered by most civilizations that came before theirs. When he used the number 7 together with all the other numbers, things didn't work. Then he realized that if he dropped the number 7 from the set, it would still appear in it, as the total count of numbers, so he was doing it wrong. The last lucky number is not in the set, it is the quantity of numbers of the set. There are just 7 numbers. The Well Man is still very skeptic, like Hugo's mother when he talked about the numbers. He says to Epix that these are all coincidences, that he does not believe it has any true effect. He says that if the numbers brought bad luck to people around Epix and just good luck to him, how he and the running man didn't get hurt? Epix responded that a lot of people got hurt, but just the ones he really cared about. Running Man and Well Man seemed uncomfortable with that answer. Epix says it doesn't even matter anymore. That now that he has the full set of numbers, the luck and misfortune cycle has ended, and that their quest now is to find the original meaning of the numbers together. Walt then suddenly appears to the three men in the temple. He calmly says he knows the original meaning of the numbers. The ancient men look surprised. The Well Man asks who is he. Walt says that who he is is unimportant. He continues by saying that what's important is that the complete set of numbers mean the ultimate union of luck and misfortune, and that is fate. That once you use the full set, in a way or another, you will be always directed towards an inevitable destiny that is supposed to happen for the first people that discover the numbers, a fate that that is not good or bad, lucky or unlucky, but that it has to happen. Walt says that since those 3 men know the numbers, there's nothing else they can do to escape their fates. Epix says ok to Walt. He says he is ready for his destiny, and asks what he is supposed to do. Walt says they have to travel. He says that wherever they start, if they follow the numbers at their journey, they will end up at the same place, even if they take different paths. That place is their destiny.
PART V Ben is pouring a drink for Hurley and Walt. Ben asks Walt if he noticed that birds flock to him whenever he will have a dream. Walt says he didn't make that correlation, but that it seems right. Walt says says he didn't even notice that those dreams weren't dreams. Walt continues by saying that in his dreams in that ancient world, those people speak an unknown language to him, but while he is there, he can understand what they say. Hurley says that in a dream he spoke Korean with Jin as well. That this can happen. Walt says this is all very confusing. Hurley says that it was very confusing to him when dead people started talking to him as well, but since he is the protector of the island, he now thinks he was always meant to be that way. He continues by saying that Walt dreams are probably meant to be that way too, that it is tied to his role in the Island. Ben asks Walt how he knows what he has to do in those dreams. Walt answers that he doesn't know. That someone always tell him about what he has to do, or say. Walt asks Hurley if he can talk with Michael. Hurley says that his powers changed after he was nominated the protector of the Island. That before it, just dead people started a conversation with him. He says that now, he is the one who starts the conversation. He continues by saying to Walt that since Michael died outside the Island, he can't call his father, but that he talked to Michael shortly before he was nominated. He says to Walt his father helped him save the island, that he was a brave man. Walt seems regretful. Hurley says to Walt that Michael would be proud of him.
PART VI Walt asks Hurley why he does not speak with ancient people that lived in the Island to learn more about its past. Hurley says that's because he doesn't know them. He can only call people he knows died in the Island. It's like having a telephone, you still need the number. And that yes, he learned a lot from the dead people of Dharma Initiative. Ben says maybe it's time to tell Walt what they learned about the Island. Walt seems interested. He asks Hurley what did he learn about the numbers. Hurley says to Walt that the numbers were believed to be a sort of equation, called the Valenzetti's Equation. He says that this explanation for the numbers was just a trick. He says that Jacob's original candidate was Enzo Valenzetti, that Jacob trusted him a lot, and that he shared with Enzo the power of the numbers, but didn't reveal the full set. He revealed just 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42, the same set Hurley used. Hurley continues by saying that he learned that Valenzetti used that knowledge to escape the Island, betraying Jacob, and becoming very rich himself. He also learned that Valenzetti tried to give a scientific meaning to the numbers by shoehorning it into an equation, that was later disregarded by the scientific community, and that Jacob promised himself that he would never talk about the numbers again to anyone, ever. Hurley says he also learned that Valenzetti got obsessed in finding the last number, and since the luck cycle gave him almost unlimited resources, he started experimenting. Hurley knows he was the real man behind Dharma Initiative, and used it to seek the number in the Island, since he knew he couldn't get his feet back on the Island again after what he did to Jacob. Walt is paying attention. Hurley continues by saying that for the people inside the Dharma Initiative, it was all about scientific experiments, that nobody in the Island within Dharma knew about Valenzetti's participation, or the real objective of the mission. It all came to an end when Jacob's people, the Others, purged the Dharma Initiative, but not before they accidentally reached an extensive pocket of unstable energy. They didn't know how to stabilize it. They created a mechanism that needed an input that was very hard to calculate. So someone in Dharma Initiative, off the Island, told them to use Valenzetti's equation constants. They blindly used the numbers, and it worked. Nobody understood why those numbers were chosen but Valenzetti himself, that knew the unique power of those numbers when used together. But since it was an incomplete set, the energy pocket was still unstable and needed permanent maintenance . The full set of numbers were needed for that (or any) mechanism to stabilize the pocket of energy completely. Walt then asks Hugo if that was the Hatch. Hurley says yes, until Locke destroyed it. Walt asks how he does know that story if the members of Dharma Initiative themselves didn't know the true objective of the mission. Hurley says that Valenzetti died in the Island. After the Purge, he risked everything by coming to the Island himself and Jacob didn't protect him. The Smoke Monster killed him. Hurley says he learned about this after talking to the dead man that once was the Smoke Monster. Walt asks Hurley if he knows the last number. Hurley says he has no idea.
@@samleen then why can't charles widmore just track these coordinates to find the island😶 and where the hell did they get food supplies and paychek for 20 years is their is no darma initiative
@@shebinps492 I'm pretty sure that widmore was the one paying them. the dharma initiative still exists by a different name. widmore might have gotten wind of it from eloise hawking.
@@samleen but bro widmore saw the killing of all members of darma in island before he was expelled from island and who was paying darma initiate from beginning wtf is darma initiative their is soo many unanswered questions😟
I don't think Charles was paying for them. He didn't know about this warehouse or the pallet drops, and he had no way of finding the island (oh, he tried!) until the hatch implosion that ended season 2. He was obsessed with the Island; if his company was actually funding the island drops, he would have KNOWN. The big thing that the series never really expanded upon was... what was the Hanzo foundation? The company headed by a millionaire that started the Dharma Initiative in the 70s? It's mentioned in the first orientation video, and then we never really hear about them again. Does the foundation still exist? Are they paying for the pallet drops? I think this is one of those those mysteries that falls apart if you look at it too closely. Given Widmore's connections and influence, he SHOULD have been able to track down every little bit of Dharma that was left, discover that drones were sending pallets to the island, and figure out where it was. I don't believe that he was too busy to do so, or forgot about it, or was uninterested.
The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why Walt was just cool with his former kidnapper taking him back to the place he suffered tons of childhood trauma
okay but how did jacob leave the island? who finished installing that wheel to move the island? Why didn't desmond just put that stone back into the hole to turn the light back on? If the MiB didn't exist what was so bad about turning the light off other than the island sinking?
what you mean how did jacob leave the island ? it was never said thet he or anyone jacobs position cant leave island (others cant coz it was under jacobs will) , desmond was almost dead and why he would do that ? he did not care about island situation at all , it was his purpose and he did it
Let the island sink ? And leave all the survivors of 815 like cindy , zack , emma , the remaining hostiles to drown and die ? You do know that there are still dozens of ppl on the island who didnt get out
The thing I always wondered was who was paying these guys? If the dharma initiative was all killed on the island did their HQ not know and thought they were still there and working?
Who funded for all the Dharma inventory - food, clothing etc till this time from 20 yrs. since dharma initiative was gone. Will it be Ben? How the hell has that amount of money since he is an island dweller without a job
