Lotus. 

Will I regret giving this a thematic, powerful one word title, instead of something long with a bunch of buzzwords for RU-vid Search Optimization purposes? Place your bets below!

I love the Jeweled Lotus/Doubling Cube interaction because it can be accurately described as "Mana Laundering"

Shoutout to Lion's Eye Diamond, a fixed black lotus that managed to still be super broken~

I know the focus is just on Lotus-named cards, but shoutout to Garth One-Eye masquerading as another Lotus card that you gotta jump through hoops to achieve (similar to the hoop of forcing suspend counters). ✨

Lotus cobra basically makes your fetch lands into lotuses, 2 land drop + the land can tap. 3 mana. I think it's named fairly.

The doubling cube deck makes Jeweled Lotus worth it, I always love seeing decks built around ridiculous edge cases like that.

Lotus and moxes are just so iconic in magic. Each time a new one is spoiled I'm always so excited to see what kind og take has taken on such iconic cards :D

My favorite one is Lost Vale, the flipside of Dowsing Dagger. Weather you consider it a reference to Lotus Vale or not, I think it's criminally underplayed in creature based mid power edh decks.

I think lion's eye diamond deserved an honorable mention

To a Magic fan, the word "lotus" means a lot, to the average person it probably doesn't mean much although "black lotus" has certainly leaked into pop culture.

Would have expected a shoutout to Lion‘s Eye Diamond, as even though it doesn’t literally have „Lotus“ in its name it is a black lotus with some extra rules

My favorite lotus will probably always be the one I opened first: Lotus Petal. It's a fun card that really needs to be reprinted more. Not in standard because it is to strong for that, but it wouldn't be out of place in the next Commander Legends at, say, uncommon.

I would love to see this style of video for all the different moxen! Love your vids Gavin!

It’s cool to watch videos like this from the perspective of a card designer who has access to a lot of information most people don’t.

Could Jeweled lotus have had a requirement of only being used to cast a commander over a certain MV? That would have been narrow and fair, and Still exciting.

Now that we're returning to Phyrexian things soon...and that a Phyrexian found a Mox Opal...can we expect a Phyrexian Lotus soon? 🙂

Absolutely love it when magic references itself. Makes the world feel more real.

Every time I see a video about Lotus, I always wonder about the one sneaky "not lotus but actually lotus," Lion's Eye Diamond. Sure it's not called a lotus, but it sure reads like one in a trenchcoat.

Also gotta shout out to Lion's Eye Diamond too. It may not be a lotus in name but it's closer than Lotus Guardian for sure

Lotus Bloom being an old border promo in Time Spiral Remastered was very nice

Lotus Field is my favorite card, painted by the reason I fell in love with Magic: the legend John Avon.

This was the best episode yet

"Only time will tell" sneaky foreshadowing of timeless lotus

TAMESHI TAMESHI TAMESHI !!! Man o man I was waiting for this! Tameshi lotus bloom was/is the perfect home & place for the card in the current era!

Lotus bloom is so dope, one of those cards you wanna play in every deck but only some decks get to use it.

Great vid Gavin.

Okay that doubling cube deck is amazing

Mox lotus should get a reprint in Unfinity without an acorn. At 15 mana, it's not a big deal to get infinity mana. Sure, you can cheat it in, but there are plenty of 2 card combos that make infinity mana anyways

Mirrored Lotus was insane in one of the Mystery Booster drafts I played. It was a deck that ran Rosheen Meanderer, Daretti, Scrap Savant, Torment of Hailfire, Kaervek's Torch, and Planequake (another neat playtest card). The downside of giving your opponent a lotus isn't that bad when it fuels an extra 3 into an X spell that will kill them the turn you play it.

I always took the back side of Dowsing Dagger/Lost Vale as a reference to Lotus Vale, as both are lands that tap for three mana and the names are very similar. I guess in the family analogy this is the second cousin twice removed.

If Lotus Vale wasn't under a lock and key wording it would be in the top 3 lands ever printed....most likely the best land and almost undebatable.

I love Lotus Bloom. That card is better than most people give it credit. 😏🤞

Nyx Lotus is so good! I love it so much

cool there's another one now, timeless litus in dominaria returns

I love in-game legacies like these. My gf opened a foil Nyx lotus and a normal one in the prerelease kit that I bought for her. I told her if she just gave me the foil one, she wouldn’t have to pay me back. She jokes about me taking her lotus, but her normal one hasn’t moved into a deck years later, so she’s not missing it. But as someone who started with M13, my favorite is gilded lotus. I apparently traded my copy away because I couldn’t find it, so I bought a few so I could run them. I prefer the Dominaria art, but I like my M13 set logo.

Now we need the lotus ring analysis

Cool video!

What an intriguing name for a video. I just need to know more.

I love the lotus, the more the better

Hahaha, "What can a Gleemax cost, Michael?"

Lions eye diamond is so interesting!

When nyx lotus came out I thought it was so cool because of the devotion aspect of it. Plus I started playing magic in the original theros block so theros beyond death was awesome all together for me (:

I play Nyx Lotus in my Klothys Devotion Brawl deck. The only problem it has is that it only helps you cast cards of the color you already have a high devotion for, whereas gilded lotus can ramp you into a different color

I loved that Jeweled Lotus was printed. it’s not game breaking. it speeds the pace of a 4 player format perfectly and it baits your opponents to use their spells rather than hide them for protecting their board state. I’d rather use a slough 1 to 2 drop removal spells.

I recognize that Fester Addams estranged uncle pic! That was when they just moved into the mansion and Debbie was making him where that blonde wig right? God, that was a good movie. We watch it every turkey day.

Man I love jeweled its one of my favorite pet cards it's won me tons of games especially with urza I'm glad 😊 you guys made it thanks

I had the exact same experience with lotus guardian as a kid.

Lotus Dream mana cost: phyrexian black Phyrexian black Enchantment tap: Add 3 mana of any one color. Reveal the top card of your library, you lose life equal to its converted mana cost. Exile that card. RARITY: MYTHIC SET M 30TH

I'd love to see a Jeweled Lotus variant that is specifically for powering out expensive commanders. It might read something like "gives you x mana where x is the mana value of your commander minus 3"

Proposal to get around the Reserved List and help Vintage be more accessible: Ink Lotus {0} Artifact A starting deck cannot contain a card named Ink Lotus and a card named Black Lotus {T}, Sacrifice Ink Lotus: Add {C}{C} and a mana of any color to your mana pool.

it’s like you’ve never bought a banana before! 😂😂😂

Drinking game: take a drink whenever Gavin says "Lotus."

JEWELED LOTUS ITS THE BEST i love it!

Oohh, poor Dowsing Dagger. The unremembered lotus.

Jeweled Lotus contributes to many non-games. CMDR has strayed much further from play what you want and it's due to designs like it.

Well to be fair when hearing "lotus" out of context my mind jumps to space mom

Kinda funny you used Najeela as the example with Jeweled lotus, because I did exactly that in a recent game. Turn 1 Najeela into turn 3 Winota. And because Najeela conveniently makes non-human tokens, I was already getting Winota triggers on turn 3.

I still think Jeweled Lotus was a misstake. If it wasn't as rare as it is, it would to much more non-games. I do find the Doubling Cube / Jeweled Lotus deck hilarious. I always loved the art on Lotus Vale and Lotus Blossom. Sadly they're just too risky to run.

I still want a video on why the allied pain lands don't get reprints yet the enemy ones do.

on Jeweled lotus: "I'm not a fan. it speeds up the format too much". OMG YOU MADE THIS CARD. YOU WERE THE LEAD DESIGNER. YOU WERE TOLD THIS EXACT THING BY JLK BEFORE PRINTING IT

And Lotus Field works great with Strict Proctor in Historic and Explorer! It's nice to have the name still used for powerful mana ramping/cheating to this day.

Im trying to collect all the lotus cards, only missing black, blacker, mox, blossom, guardian and jeweled. All of them are beautiful. Its been hard to build a deck with all the lotus cards i have because they all have different applications and vale or field in an opening hand can be backbreaking in certain circumstances lol. Just glad i have a decent chunk of the lotus legacy to play with!

Im happy that you agree with community about jewelled lotus. I own one and I play cedh but I would have it banned in a second if I could

I have a few thoughts on Lotuses. The most simple being: I need to get some Lotus petals. While Legacy is hard to get into because of the reserved list, Lotus petals are just a nice card to have. One day I hope it sees a reprint beyond Mystery Booster, so more people can enjoy them too. The second is a card you didn't mention here (as it didn't directly tie into lotus theming:) Dowsing Dagger. It was the first rare I ever opened in a booster pack, and its transformation into Lost Vale is a direct callback to Lotus Vale. The reference was lost on me at first, but when I learned about it, I thought it was still cool, if hard to use. Maybe it'll find a home in a lower powered Commander deck. Third: Mox Lotus. Is that a reference to James Cameron's Titanic I see in the artwork? Finally: Lotus is such a powerful imagery, that when I commissioned custom artwork for a playmat, it was one of my characters plucking a petal off a Lotus flower in a swamp, as any MtG player would know exactly what it was evoking.

Good afternoon Gavin. I love the lotuses. But I think charms are still my favorite. Yet the master piece mox opal is my favorite art In MTG. Jeweled lotus is fine I see most use it to get one 1 reduced cost and a tax pay.

i like jeweled lotus because i opened it in my first pack in my draft booster box of commander legends. I am not particularly lucky with boosters so this was a really memorable experience.

My opinion on Jeweled Lotus? It didn't break the format, but too many generically great cards like it can, so I'm glad to hear you say it's not the sort of design you're interested in making more of. If the temptation to make more cards like it should ever arise, please just reprint. While trusted playgroups and venues where people have multiple decks at different power levels helps, I also want to look out for the new-to-Commander LGS experience too.

Ironic saying lotus petal is too risky to make, but then staple a treasure to everything and think it's fine...

Lotus Bloom is really fun in commander

Little disappointing that this wasn't a way to announce a new "Lotus"

I love Lotus Bloom

I'd love a lotus petal reprint, my playset gets a lot of use

The wildest deck I’ve ever seen used Gilded Lotus, Voltaic Key, Memnarch and Tron Lands to steal your board state one card at a time until you found your face being beaten in by your own permanents and, or course, Memnarch himself. I now know what Glissa must have felt like.

All it would have took was to let Lotus Guardian tap for 3 and people would probably play it in some capacity, especially in commander. People already play Gilded Lotus at 5 CMC because it taps for 3 so a more modern designed Lotus Guardian could work if it also did that and maybe also had vigilance to justify a high CMC dork

I don't play Jeweled Lotus, it's too swingy and just not my style....but when it eventually gets reprinted, can it PLEASE get one of those art cards as well? For a card i don't own, it might be my absolute favorite art in the game, it's ridiculously pretty, and i am planning on collecting the art in different forms. :)

I enjoy jeweled lotus. I play a lot of mediocre high mana value commanders (and not in green) so drawing the lotus is a lot of fun to speed out my Bruna, the Fading Light or whatever. I am not a fan of playing against it in higher power situations though. It certainly adds gas.

Epiphany! I will now go out and acquire a Lotus Guardian! It's perfectly fitting for my Raggadragga deck. It double dips in flavour! @_@

I think "tear this card into pieces" might be the most hated mechanic ever printed. Maybe it's funny to read once, but I would always rather lose the game than destroy my own cards.

i really dont like too much fast mana in casual :( LOVED THE SET, THO

what are your thoughts on the most recent timeless lotus?

Now we just need to wait for the Alchemy Lotus a Arena only card that you remove from your collection each time it is used

The 2 word "cash grab" is a more suitable title

I'm sorta assuming that this was made because we have another lotus card coming out in Dominaria United. Looking forward to it.

Thanks for the video Gavin, I also love the Gilded Lotus and think Nyx is under represented. And, hey, look, I know these comments get read and I think this is healthy feedback. I didn't like 2x2. As an average player, in a rural area with only about 4 LGS in a 30 mile radius of me, I saw no Drafts. My favorite card shop sold out in 1 hour, and was HOPING to be able to get a couple of Collector boxes in a week or two. The "Draft" environment is non-existent. All that's left as far as I'm concerned for this set, is Re-Selling. The secondary market has blitzed the product, and it's going to trickle out over the course of time. I don't have the finances to enjoy a draft of this. The Re-prints that we REALLY needed are all Mythic, and are not really influencing the environment for card prices due to their inherent rarity. The 2X2 release has basically pushed me to decide that Proxies are the healthiest way to buy Magic cards at this point, and I never thought that in the past. And I'm hoping that the Mother Ship can put out products that changes my mind back in the future, but right now it doesn't feel that way. Oh, and please, for the love of Urza, reprint Edgar Markov. Even as just a List entry. He's never going away, so please just make him more affordable? Or I'll just add him to my list of Proxies to have printed.

I wonder if this means we'll be seeing a new Lotus sometime soon... 🤔

Imagine we have a lotus artifact type

I now it was already said, but Dowsing Dagger/Lost Vale may not have Lotus in the name, but it does feel very much like it is just sneaking in there.

I started playing magic again in 2020 after 15 years or so, first pack I opened had a jeweled lotus. Had no idea what commander even was, stuffed it in box and forgot about it. Now that I play commander, I still only ever use it in a deck that has a 6+ cmc commander. I dont think its that earth shattering, the game is so fast these days that if you want to play higher cmc commanders, you almost have to have one if you want to use a deck that actually uses the commander. But my group is otherwise pretty casual, so that might just be me feeling that way.

I know it probably wouldn't have been as resonant or close to the original if this were the case, but, was there any thought given to adding a clause to Jeweled Lotus saying that you could only use the mana on Commanders with a given mana value or greater? Not sure what would have even been a good cut-off point. 4? 5? 6?

haven't yet seen jeweled lotus used to power out a commander super early which didn't end up with that commander catching a removal before that players next turn.

15:22 Jeweled Lotus would 100% be a staple in every deck if it weren't for its insane price tag. It's easily the most broken Lotus printed since the original.

Jeweled Lotus is a fine card. Many games of commander come down to archenemy at some point and it often easier to correct if that advantage is easily identified at the beginning so players can play aground the situation rather than something just as powerful but less obvious like burgeoning turn one. Burgeoning turn one is actually more powerful an that card has been printed in precon decks.

I love jeweled lotus. I've played hundreds of games since it's release and it's never gotten the table killed though it does speed up the game. I actually enjoyed faster games. Between 15 to 30 minutes so I don't mind the speed of the card.

Print Jeweled Lotus more than once and you would see its impact. *Looks at "Commander Legends 2" and snickers*

After watching this, I'm now indolent; though contemptibly dreaming of lack of lotuses.

Lotus bloom Second sunrise deck was my 1st extend format 100% competitive. Still I wish it would be modern legal again.

I have my blacker lotus in the front of my binder, it still has yet to be played ;)

Jewelry lotus should make colorless mana then I doubt anyone would complain about it

me: "oh boy I hope they have good stuff to say about lotus guardian its my favorite!" you: "literally the worst"

"Jeweled Lotus isn't that good. You have to sacrifice it"