I'm surprised it's not brought up more often. The marriage and court laws are heavily stacked against men and they get destroyed. And with marriages in 50% divorce rates and 80% initiated by women. That's really bad odds to gamble with
@@professionalpookie Narcissist: A person who has excessive interest in or admiration of themselves. The narcissist believes marriage is all about her happiness. She is always right. Nobody else matters. Her interest is 100% her. This is unquestionably narcissism. I'm not your teacher. Go educate yourself. If life isn't easy, she bails, because you married a narcissist who only cares about her own interests. Now you're making me use the definition of the word with the word. Asshole
@@professionalpookie Learn the difference between self love and selfless love. Self love only cares about yourself and your happiness. This is narcissism. Selfless love puts other people first. People with selfless love have healthy marriages. People with self love should never get married. The ancient Greeks had 5 words for love. The term we use for love is a meaningless abstract. It's too vague to mean anything. Explaining things to average people irritates me.
@@anti-validation Experts aren't sure how common NPD is. According to research data, between 0.5% and 5% of people in the U.S. may have it. Between 50% and 75% of cases affect men and people assigned male at birth (AMAB).
Especially when you get told beforehand the reason She cheated and filed for divorce is because she wants to see if she can do life all on her own without help. Then why are you going after tens of thousands of dollars in court that you didn't work for, and even much more future money? Do it on your own like you said.
I am age 49 in the old days our mindset was how can I add value to the relationship. People now approach a relationship with a large checklist and criteria. A sense of entitlement. Western selfish and over enflated egos=disaster.
"Marriage is not a sanctimonious thing. It is paperwork. It's a commitment you make to someone...but if you feel like [breaking the] commitment, you gotta go." ~ Mia Khalifa. Obviously, commitments have a different meaning to modern women than it does to men.
And YOU'RE a woman to give good relationship advice as you've been successful up to now. The option of getting advice from someone like you and someone who's failed isn't even a hard decision.
You know she doesn't mean that. People like that only want the benefits without the journey to get there through merit and genuine love. You know she only wants the traditional of men paying for her, they even admit they just mean that: modern woman, pseudo traditional "a guy must buy me everything".
My problem is not with marriage itself, infact I do like the idea of marriage. My problem is with the divorce though, someone being able to leave at any moment because they feel like it and I’ll be fucked financially (as well as most probably will not see my children as often because women get custody) is what I do not like at all.
Statistically, you won’t be fucked financially UNLESS you make 6 figures and are the primary bread winner. Women are more likely to end up in poverty after a divorce and only 10% of divorced women ever get alimony and around half only get child support. CS would’ve been expenses you would’ve had to cover anyway for your kid. Men also are notorious fir not fighting for custody but when they do, most of the time they end up getting shared custody. Also the last 2 can happen even if you don’t get married so… Women also don’t just up and leave at any moment either. From what I’ve seen, most tried for years and begged the man for YEARS to change. They weren’t get their needs met so they bounced. A lot of these men make the women miserable! I’m not surprised that women leave, can’t just take mistreatment.
Little misandrist talking points here. Let me correct some of the less than accurate points you made. Women don't end up in poverty because of divorce, they were in poverty before the marriage. They typically were not ambitious to begin with. That's not a marriage problem. Men will end up in poverty after a divorce BECAUSE of divorce, oftentimes. That's the whole point of the OP, not some random stat on poverty continuing. Child support is NOT for expenses you would have covered anyways. You STILL have those, but now the father has to cover the mother's side as well. So if I pay 400 for rent due to two children (I.e., a larger apartment than if I was without kids) I also have to pay for the mother's increased rent. It was a nice try, but splitting the house increases the costs. For example, my ex-wife gets 33% of my income and has the kids get this, TEN percent of the time. If a woman asks how that's possible, she's an idiot! Absolutely blind and stupid. Men lose, period. It is literally hurting my children as it takes from them. Nobody in the legal system cares. The larger question to your point should be WHY men don't FIGHT. Because its a stacked deck, or because the women choose someone that wouldn't fight and doesn't care about the kids. The first is where I fit in, fighting a losing fight. I was just too stupid to realize it and fought. It cost me 60k to fight, a sum most people would never have. I didn't have it and will be paying it back for decades. Ex wife abused my kids, the social investigator she hired sided with ME, the Judge was required by LAW to strip her of custody, and it was ruled 50-50. Literal abuse is okay by a mother, but a father farting wrong would be considered SA and he'd lose the kids fully. And to add insult to injury, she took off and abandoned the kids just like I told the Judge she would. Left state. Deadbeat mothers are not rare anymore, with over 20% of single primary caretakers the fathers (meaning actually single not splitting custody). That's up from 6%. Seems mothers be running from their obligations, and if child support didn't exist it would be far worse. You're not just leaving marriages, you're leaving the kids too. Why be miserable just because you had kids? Why take care of them at all? Your last point is more nuanced. You are not helpless and silly victims. Oftentimes it is just toxic on both sides. Unilateral abuse is most common among lesbians, and in straight marriages women commit it far more against men than vice versa. Those surveys have held the test of time. However, men aren't innocent in these marriages. It is more closer to 50-50 when we talk about who's at fault. Also, when a man tells a woman to change, he's "controlling." When a woman does it she's brave and helpful. No, both of them are badgering and useless. @@melissasimmons3222
@@melissasimmons3222There is a failure of both men and women when it comes to the dissolution of marriages. It does no good to make this a “well men do this…” or “but women do this” gender battle. That agenda based divide is one of the reasons our culture, and relationships, are plummeting. There has to be a mutual understanding of standards, expectations, and commitment from the “outset”. Both parties can not get lazy, complacent, or restrict intimacy. There can be no infidelity or abuse( obviously), and no one splitting because they are “bored”, especially with children. There are far too many breakups for frivolous reasons. These points are where we need to start making progress.
Depends who you marry and where she's going to live. If she's a virgin and go live in a very rural area where nobody divorces, it can work. If you marry in a big city you're just giving all your stuff and future income to someone who will hate you to keep you away after taking your stuff.
@@jamesjonnesThis is pretty delusional tbh. The rural areas aren't any different. They have social media, they have the same culture. This is like when people say "find a church woman" when most modern churches are cosigning feminism and liberalism . Finding a church woman isn't going to save u. Finding a rural woman isn't going to save you. You can find a foreign girl with all the right values.. and all it will take is her to meet one or two friends to undue all that upbrining . Unless you live in a society that culturally enforces morality and shames bad behavior... that women can be brainwashed by culture and friends in a year.
@@TheBasedUchiha The Amish's divorce rate is practically zero. Buy a farm near them or something. Or make a family in a rural area of another country. What are you going to do? Give up on having a family? Be careful or you might win a Darwin Award, just like all those 40-year-old women who delayed having children until the last moment and selected themselves out of the gene poll. The black pill is effeminate, men find real solutions to problems.
Its always been amazing to me how people shun faith in a higher power but trust themselves to create their own moral compass like its any better. Just listen to the lack of accountability of people who are pro-divorce.
Let’s be real here. The only thing women like marriage for is its gold digging abilities and the wedding day. That’s it. Make it impossible for a woman to steal a man’s assets and wealth via divorce and she’s not interested at all. The women who want marriage aren’t even religious and these women also have never once in their life had to refrain from something they wanted to do and commit to something. So how on earth will this suddenly materialise in a marriage. It won’t. They find divorce as easy as closing a Netflix account
The planet is at it's peak of sociopathic behavior. Seems that most are like, "What's best for me." Nobody works things out through tough times or does what is right for the kids. They look at marriage like a mood. "Let me shake this off and start over because I'm not happy in this moment."
Strong word, but it's genuine narcissism. Life is not 100% perfect. Even the best partner or friend you'll have have is not 100% a copy-paste of every single nit picky thing you desire. These people can't fathom that.
@@zenden6564 I’ve been to Asia. Beijing, Quijing, and Shizong. Shizong which is like going back in time and is so poor. Me and my bass player at the time went there with his wife and bout 5 other people as we knew of an orphanage that was in need. Conditions worse than a prison only difference is can open close doors, go outside, etc. kids didn’t understand a word we said without our translator but those children were all smiles. We brought sheets, pillows, med supplies, painted, etc. The people in China were so cool and nice. I wouldn’t mind having an Asian wife though but then again I’m so poor they would be like “no thanks I’m ok” lol.
If women don't want marriage, people aren't going to complain. I just hope women don't complain when men check out. Most women walk this walk until later in life. Look at the Kendra G show. They just had a 60 year old women trying to date. I've seen this several times. I love how women don't need a man, but damn sure won't go to war or fight real crime.
Carli is BEAUTIFUL and well spoken. She looks a lot like Amy Lee. There's a reason she is married. Glad she was able to work out her problems with her man even if she doesn't wear a ring.
Her name is Kyla. NotSoEuradite on RU-vid etc…I watched for her, unfortunately she didn’t get much time to speak, and unfortunately the show focused on Taylor swift
If any of these women really believe in their words and exuded through their actions for being a traditional woman they wouldn't be on this podcast. The game and rules of engagement have changed so as men we gotta move differently.
"not so erudide" (her youtube channel) the girl that went second at 9:50 loves to hear the sound of her voice.. she had a feud with rollo because after she went to fresh and fit, she thought she had won the debate with myron and then started bashing rollo to get clout.. as you can see.. she loves hearing the sound of her voice.. too much blablablabla... talking about marriage like "people dont know what it is anymore", funny.. since women are the ones that divorce the most.. but she wont address that specifically.. which makes her argument useless
It amazes me that everyone has this terrible opinion of marriage. I have been with my wife 31 years,married for 25 of those years. I love her more now than I did when we got married. She is my entire world and I think she feels the same about me. Marriage is beautiful.
They're part of the cause of the trauma children are suffering from. Splitting families, acting in an immature fashion because of their emotions, thinking they'll financially flank men continuously with no repercussions will place our young ladies in a dating deficit.
Lets be equal 1. Women ask men out 2/ Women pay for the first date. 3. Women can pay alimony 4. Women need to sign up for the draft. Equal is Equal. You asked for it, here it is.
I couldn't agree with these divorced ladies more! Get divorced and bag half of their money, do it two to three times again to have enough wealth to continue their hoe phase well into their 40s, and then when they hit the wall face first, they wonder where did they go wrong
And that's the whole problem,no one understands or takes marriage serious anymore,for richer or poor,thru sickness and health,til death do us part,it all meant something good
This problem is solved very easily. Attention Men, stop wifing up these 304s who are divorced and have kids. Within 10 years/one generation this will change.
Funny enough if Divorce laws change to not give out free money to women I think their views on divorce would change drastically. The whole "get divorced before your 30" is to live off the money of your x-husband and his retirement.
Marriage clearly was never meant for poor people at all. If your primary roles as men are to provide financial support and resources, how can you be poor, broke, or even below average, this clearly doesn't make sense..
When they are early 20 its all yes boss babe, get the bag. When they hit mid 30s and they think wow another 30+ years of this dead end job they quickly become bored of work/career and look for a simp who will pick up the slack so they can take a step back from it all.
The more I look at behavior from a perspective of incentives, the more the craziness makes sense. If someone is spouting what you perceive to be nonsense, ask yourself, “What is their [perceived] incentive?”
A man should never marry once he has established himself because any women that comes into his life after he has made something of himself do not deserve half his assets because they were not there with him to struggle and build with him at the beginning. I learned later late in life that women do not want to build or struggle with a man. To women, it is all about them and what they can take. Younger women are “attracted” to “older” men because older men will have more money than those younger men in the same age bracket as these young women.
Marriage has no purpose/foundation without God. You need something robust like religion to help guide you when you and your partner are at each others throats. It acts like a buffer. Without marriage, it is just a business transaction, a merger of assets. Because when divorce happens, all that anyone is concerned with is the division of assets.
My first wife after 4 years came up to me one day straight up to my face said, I want a divorce I’m not religious like you and I love you as a friend then she cheated on me double ouch. My second wife who I’m still with and happy started out religious at the beginning of our marriage then became agnostic, we make it work bc of mutual respect and true love luckily. My successful marriage is a microcosm of what a diverse USA could be, different beliefs but mutual respect and common ground
My first 2 wives had plenty of experience. Divorced first one at 5 years. Divorced second one at one year. Third had none. Still married, 22 years later. You be the judge.
I think most women also view a high body count and a high divorce rate as a red flag. Which makes perfect sense on both sides because it coincides with failed relationships. Simply put mentioning it rather reduces your chances than increase.
What God provides is a deeper level of commitment and understanding of what marriage is for based upon what love is. My husband and I married before God, and it keeps us committed. He looks out for my soul and I look out for his and together we shepherd the souls of our children. That's hard in this society--and working together on that keeps us united in an amazing way (including our children). Married 23 years with 6 kids (all healthy and getting along and the oldest are positively contributing to society including my oldest son who is training to be a priest). It's hard but worth it. Life is only a stepping stone for reaching eternity with God.
From 20-35 we had a mixed gang of both party boys and party girls- A few of the girls were exceptionally attractive, all had good careers (Working in London) and fabulous party animals. Today we are all around 45: Us boys have all moved on and had children with kind natural girls (the opposite of our gang). All the party girls are all still single with a string of failed relationships and still partying (to a less degree) with cats or dogs. All the boys agree… great bunch of girls but you would never get involved with any of them on a relationship level. I genuinely do feel sorry for the girls… missing out on the chance to have children 😢I know a few of them are now questioning whether they should have lived their lives differently ❤
I live in idaho. A few years back an old man came in his house and his wife told him, its over, get out! He got his 45, , 3 shots, got in his favorite chair and called cops. Told them what he did and was to old to work any more ir start over, and no place to go so .. take me away. Im sure it can go both ways. Selfish people shouldnt ever get married, in my opinion.
When they have to work alone for 35 to 40 years to retire then you will understand what marriage is for. Women are literally freeing men. I wonder if the gap between male and female lifespans close.
Personally, I think being in your 20s is the best time of your life even if that time is not a good time because in your 20s you're at the intersection of having the ability, time and money to do what you want. The thing is make good decisions so those choices take you places.
Marriages today are based on all external things , that usually don’t last eg I want your money and clout or I want your youth and beauty so I guess I have to commit to you . ( there is nothing wrong with liking what you see ) marriages that last are based on compatibility : physical , emotional & intellectual , but more importantly you have a soulful connection and unity in your family , loving someone when you want to hate them ( for that moment of reactivity ) wishing you the best single , LTR or married w children
17:08 Her words are music to many good men's ears, but I can't help but wonder if it's her or her wall talking. Has her life choices up until this point been in line with what she's saying now at 33, or has she been partying and sleeping with random Chads throughout her teens, 20s and early 30s? I'm not going to judge her on her looks alone, but these are valid questions for any man considering committing to a long-term, and hopefully lifelong relationship with a woman. Personally, I would never ever commit to a woman with a promiscuous past, a woman who as an OnlyF%ns, or a double digit body count. These are absolute boundaries for me, but if other dudes are willing to literally bet their future on a commitment to a 'high mileage' woman, they're of course free to do so. If you're her guy number 17, what are the odds of that working out in the long run?
At one point during his episode one of the ladies totally said false things about common law marriage. SOS, don’t let people just make things up and saying it is fact.
People seem to forget that marriage is fundamentally about creating and maintaining a family. Most divorces happen because women have a tendancy to emotional immaturity which leads to unfullfilled (delusional or unrealistic) expectations that value themselves more than the family because feminism and society fail to hold them accountable and keep them grounded in reality, while in fact doing the opposite by encouraging them to engage in maladaptive behaviours. A society (or person) which values the individual more than the family is destined to social and cultural (or personal) degeneration.
statistics say that women initiate about 70% of all divorces in the US, for reasons that vary: infidelity by partner, infidelity by self, lack of income (for poorer), (emotional or physical) abuse, alcohol or other drug abuse (by partner),... divorce laws and alimony/custody laws can vary by state and by nation. @15:28 the presence or creation of children (or not) is a big reason for getting/staying married or not, as well as for maintaining sexual relations or not.
"Back in the day, men put in more effort and courted a wemon." True, but back in the day a man picked his wife from a pool of virgin women who were raised and trained to be a wife...
@16:37 A Only Fans girls say she believes in marriage?!?!?.... She wants to be a trophy wife?? A what!?!?!... WTF is happening to my eyes & ears. They are lying to me right now. This is like a puzzle that f*cks up the world's brightest genius head. So you can imagine what it is doing to mine.
