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Loudspeaker cables - how do they make a difference? 

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How can a loudspeaker cable change the sound of your loudspeakers? Harley Lovegrove; recording engineer, loudspeaker designer, musician and business man, explains what happens inside a loudspeaker cable and what effect it can have on what you hear. He explains the process of choosing a neutrally balanced loudspeaker cable for the Pearl Acoustics, Sibelius loudspeaker. From the way electrons behave in the conductance of a cable, to balancing the priorities between key component selection to room acoustics and eventual 'fine tuning' with cables.

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@VictorMawhinney
@VictorMawhinney 3 года назад
My own story on hi-fi , for years I went through many many changes in equipment , turntables amplifiers , cables etc , you know the story , until one day i (finally realised) , I am sitting here listening for... (faults ).. (instead)...of listening to the (music) . Just ENJOY THE MUSIC .
@thomastse6228
@thomastse6228 3 года назад
Very true Victor
@paulaj2829
@paulaj2829 3 года назад
Victor.. I think as get older we tend to think that we should not be doing this.. but really we are still living & enjoying our music & ear's.. I'm very much into my HiFi & apart from new Stylus & other little toys which are out there to help us look after our music.. the fun is still the same..
@LA-db9xj
@LA-db9xj 3 года назад
@@paulaj2829 Well said Paul AJ. Until we stop breathing...we should enjoy living!
@hoof2k
@hoof2k 3 года назад
Music is more enjoyable when it is more Hifi, imo. To a certain point at least.
@DandyAudiophile
@DandyAudiophile 3 года назад
You are totally right Victor. I consider myself a budget audiophile. I stopped spending money and started to enjoy music in the equipment I could afford.
@MichelLinschoten
@MichelLinschoten 3 года назад
Rubber sleeve coated with more rubber...so you can imagine you can do long runs. Rubber doesn't insulate against interference. What a crock! Lol, just use speak on, or xlr cheap and far superior. This guy is such a sales guy with subpar knowledge about basic electronics and principles
@iamsometimes6712
@iamsometimes6712 2 года назад
It certainly does not make me want to ever consider any of the speakers he's been involved in 🤣
@antoineparidaens9228
@antoineparidaens9228 3 года назад
everything change the sound your ears ,, your mood ;; your room ;; the way you turn your head ,,, ;; the kind of music ;; the recording ,,, much more than the cables !!!!!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Dear Antoine, I totally agree. As I say, cables are the very last fine tuning. Multi-strand copper is fine for our speakers, we just supply them ready made for anyone that wants them. It’s not magic.
@TheFreakonhell
@TheFreakonhell 3 года назад
It all begins with the way of connect great hardware with each other...
@blobbynobby4619
@blobbynobby4619 3 года назад
the strength of the weed, just sayin like
@Debagio
@Debagio 3 года назад
There's so much snake oil in this area of hi-fi.
@automachinehead
@automachinehead 3 года назад
Preach. It started in the 80's when big corporations learned how stupid people can actually be.
@NNITRED
@NNITRED 3 года назад
@@automachinehead - EXACTLY!
@ProffAndy
@ProffAndy 3 года назад
No surprise that changing the shape of a speaker voice coil changes how a speaker sounds. That does not prove that changing the shape of a speaker cable will change the sound of a system. There's a big difference between the operating characteristics of a voice coil and a speaker cable.
@j.m.w.5064
@j.m.w.5064 3 года назад
@@ProffAndy hm... then again, he didn't change anything about the speaker cable. As I understand, they claim to keep it as simple as possible. I mean, this is a product information but he is not advertising anything snake-oily, or did he?
@kristiantizzard7796
@kristiantizzard7796 3 года назад
This is a question of psychoacoustics rather than engineering. The testing would have needed to take place under blind, controlled conditions to demonstrate anything. Geddes/Lee proved that the already known phenomenon of audiological masking caused distortion of up to 20% in some frequencies to be completely inaudible. Not saying that the design changes did/didn’t make a difference , although it’s counterintuitive as it would mean hearing the a mechanical difference introduced by microscopic fractions of current within the sea of distortion that the worlds best transducers are. Just saying that the laws of human psychology apply to engineers as much as anyone else, and it’s possible to be a highly competent mechanical engineer like Mark Fenlon and be quite unaware of them.
@HandbrakeBiscuit
@HandbrakeBiscuit 3 года назад
Electrons do not bash into each other, in some kind of microscopic Newton's Cradle manner. There is such a thing as electron drift velocity - it's dependent on current and also wire diameter but a typical figure is about a tenth of a millimetre per second. Energy is delivered through a conductive material by dint of an electromagnetic field. A conductive material is that in which such a field can exist. That's how transformers are able to energise a secondary coil (or multiple secondaries) even though the coils are insulated from each other. I don't like being a party pooper, but the information presented here regarding the fundamentals of electricity flow simply isn't correct.
@MoltenJules
@MoltenJules 3 года назад
And it is an AC not a DC signal too which is sent to the speakers.
@HandbrakeBiscuit
@HandbrakeBiscuit 3 года назад
@@MoltenJules Good point, Julian - I hadn't considered that electrons would need to 'unbash' each other as well as bash into each other. I'm not disappointed for me, but for the people who might believe this stuff...
@kamadeva1
@kamadeva1 2 года назад
I guess Paul Drude was an idiot. Thanks keyboard warrior.
@HandbrakeBiscuit
@HandbrakeBiscuit 2 года назад
@@kamadeva1 What, specifically, did Drude say that demonstrates that electrical flow is caused by an electron bashing into the next?
@davidcottrell1308
@davidcottrell1308 7 месяцев назад
of course not...these guys all 'preach' in the same manner......it is as if they have to translate their 'brilliance' into a lower level language for us mere mortals. this guy, and all of the other posers, are full of BS.
@Thomas..Anderson
@Thomas..Anderson 2 года назад
14 minutes and 57 seconds of almost 100% pure bullshit.
@pittbrat7963
@pittbrat7963 3 года назад
I don't have a problem discussing cables at all. I DO have a problem with "experts" telling me ONLY expensive cables are the best...
@peerguy
@peerguy 3 года назад
Here’s a analogy: 1. A tin roof is not going to be as strong as a concrete roof. Apparently a concrete roof costs more. 2. Similarly good quality interconnects and cables cost more than cheap copper?
@rolandrohde
@rolandrohde 3 года назад
As long as the cable is made of Copper and isn't too thin it will sound perfect. A 1€/m cable will sound the same as a 100€/m cable, as long as it fulfills a certain minimum critera.
@Debagio
@Debagio 3 года назад
@@rolandrohde Indeed. I have conducted my own blind test on my hi-fi using Van Damme cable (a good quality, reasonably priced copper cable) and another brand (£12.00 per metre) and I could tell no difference whatsoever.
@peerguy
@peerguy 3 года назад
@I was with your mother totally agree. I was justifying the cost differential between good and bad quality copper. Not debating whether the quality of sound would change significantly to justify the cost.
@sirmalus5153
@sirmalus5153 Год назад
I once tried a set of Siltech speaker cables against a set of DNM ribbon speaker cables. The "upgrade" too the Siltech cables cost a couple of thousand pounds. It sounded rubbish. I went back too the DNM cable, which (then) cost around £40+ a stereo 2m pair. Fortunately the Siltech were on loan, so no money was lost by me. The "problem" was the Siltech cables just didn't suit the amp and speakers I was using, but the cheap DNM cables did. the Amp was an old Rogers A75 (remember them?) and a pair of Spendor SP1 speakers. I have since gone on to a Conrad Johnson MV55 valve amp, a Meridian 808 CD and Spendor S100 speakers. All connected with Van Den Hul interconnects (The Second) and their speaker cables (Revelation) The old DNM cables now don't suit the system, but I still keep them for old times sake. They would however make the current system sound lacking in weight and clarity if used and somewhat bright, but hey ho. It took a lot of money to find better than them in the end. The old Rogers amp still works too.
@josuad6890
@josuad6890 3 года назад
Cables. Do they matter? Yes, of course they do.Without cable, your speaker are just an overpriced paperweight. With cables, they make good sound. Do "expensive" cables matter though? Fuck no. Get a cable from amazon basics and as long as you put those cables reasonably and put a reasonable load into them, they will just sound as good as the "expensive" ones. You say you hear a difference though? Good for you then. Data shows otherwise though, so it's 100% in your head or your previous cable is broken.
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 3 года назад
In some cases expensive cables are just cheap ones wrapped in a fancy jacket.
@philipw7058
@philipw7058 3 года назад
30 years to develop a speaker like that,yea ok good luck with the next one
@ttrrs_o3498
@ttrrs_o3498 3 года назад
Your hilarious!made me laugh
@rationalmartian
@rationalmartian 3 года назад
Like what? Do you even know what it is? Other than a floorstanding loudspeaker of course?
@derekr5327
@derekr5327 3 года назад
@@rationalmartian its a single speaker in a box. No crossover. The driver purchased from outside vendor. So yeah.... 30 years? 😂😂😂
@dudemastermaster8944
@dudemastermaster8944 3 года назад
@@derekr5327 🤦🏻‍♂️
@automachinehead
@automachinehead 3 года назад
@@rationalmartian you believe in $5k cables too, no?
@buskman3286
@buskman3286 10 месяцев назад
Years ago McIntosh used to do 'traveling labs," going from city to city. They would check your old amp if you brought one in. In those labs they would compare various speaker cables and ask listeners to identify when better cables were being used. The listeners did not know which cables were being used. There was no consistency in selecting between cables - from standard 18 gauge zip cord to "audiophile" cables. This proved to me that the whole issue of "better sound" with expensive cables is marketing - if you can't SEE that the expensive cables are being used, you can't "hear" the difference.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 месяцев назад
Hi thanks for your comment. I get your point entirely but I want to add that some manufacturers set out to make cables that sound different (and it’s quite easily done) but I personally prefer to keep things clean and just use plain, good quality multi strand copper.
@Unicorn-ST
@Unicorn-ST 4 месяца назад
I agree. Any decent cable is probably indistinguishable from another decent or even extraordinarily good cable, but a bad cable could ruin the sound. The balance is to get a decent one at a reasonable price.
@MrCristinello
@MrCristinello 3 года назад
The analogy with voltage and speed is incorrect and the electrons do not "bash" into each other.. wtf
@HandbrakeBiscuit
@HandbrakeBiscuit 3 года назад
I agree and have just written a comment to that effect.
@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 3 года назад
Hard to imagine anyone who knows anything about electricity making that statement.
@HandbrakeBiscuit
@HandbrakeBiscuit 3 года назад
@@Scottlp2 It's about as close to reality as saying that petrol engines work by the pistons being pushed by the flatulence of little red demons that live inside and love to drink petrol.
@Richard-bq3ni
@Richard-bq3ni 3 года назад
It is even the opposite. Electron repel eachother since they have all have negative charge. What actually happens: The electrons jump from the shell of one copper atom to the shell of another one where a "hole" has been created because that atom also had an electron that has jumped. The electrons are moving from - to + The "holes" is what we call the current, and move from + to - Cables do have an effect on the current that they are carrying. There is resistance, capacitance and inductance and skin effect. The capacitance and inductance in a normal speaker cable are so low, you can just ignore it for audio frequencies. At most, it will attenuate higher frequencies, but never to the extend that it will be audible. This is an educated guess, I did not take the time to calculate this. The resistance just attenuates the signal, and doesn't change the sound. The volume knob will compensate for this. Skinn effect again can have a very small impact on the highest frequencies, but virtually inaudible. Audioholics have some calculations on their site for sure. Of course a speaker voice coil can change the sound. It is a coil, so a high inductance, and together with the filter, I guess you can create an unwanted resonance frequency.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
@@Richard-bq3ni thank you for this excellent comment. It adds greatly to the quality of the debate. The problem in all these talks is to which level one should explain things. I am not a physicist but I did refer to one. I even contemplated bringing one into the short video but I felt it unnecessary. Your comment has added the value I was looking for. But of course it is very possible that someone will now challenge it.
@privateer0561
@privateer0561 Год назад
Cables...yes. So many arguments. How about the James Randi challenge offering a million bucks if anybody could tell the difference between regular cables and supposed high end/stupidly priced cables (Pear Anjou) No one showed.
@johnwheat5199
@johnwheat5199 3 года назад
Goodness me, this is the most convoluted sales pitch and destruction of cable psychosis, I think I've ever heard. Why not come clean about something many of us know already. That expensive cables sales, for the most part, rely solely on perception. In other words, a psychosomatic correlation, the more you pay, the better they sound. You are flogging cables, fine. Tell us we have wasted our money on expensive cables, fine. Just spit it out. I for one, would appreciate a little less rhetoric, and a little more candour. Far more compelling!
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 3 года назад
People listen with their eyes not their ears.
@engjds
@engjds Год назад
It makes no logical and scientific sense that cables below a certain awg makes any difference to sound, not when cable are in the 100mR per Km, take that over a couple of typical meters and you calculate a power loss far below the threshold of hearing, inductance and capacitance are also insignificant at audio frequencies at low Meter runs. But people are genuinly convinced some sound better, thats the power of suggestion.
@Negatywny2
@Negatywny2 3 года назад
what absurd nonsense, if there are any factcheckers on these sites, then exactly this type of rubbish should be dealt with
@yc-tai
@yc-tai 7 месяцев назад
Very entertaining... High quality OFC cables can reduce your electricity bill.....
@acj2789
@acj2789 Год назад
Saying that electric current actually consists of electrons 'bashing' into each other doesn't explain why electrons don't pour our out of the free end of a wire if you connect the other end to a battery. The reason electrons don't pour out is because there's no difference in electrical 'pressure' along the wire until a complete circuit is made, and the circuit contains a battery (or equivalent). You need the (electrical) pressure gradient along the wire to make the electrons flow, just as the dishwasher hose needs a pressure difference between the ends of the hose to make the water flow. In some ways analogy with water isn't as ridiculous as suggested here, although of course it's imperfect. The electrons in a metal such as copper can be divided into two sorts: ones attached to particular copper atoms, and others that are dissociated from atoms and free to move. The dissociated ones, being mobile on the large scale, carry the current. The dissociated electrons are somewhat like an incompressible liquid in the sense that they don't clump together in particular places (at least, not at the frequencies encountered in audio).
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Thanks for your contribution to this complicated process, much appreciated
@IUsedToBeAPygmy
@IUsedToBeAPygmy 3 года назад
Stop it. You're hurting us. You're hurting science. You're telling people fairytales about speaker cables - any physics professor worth his salt informs people it's about the material (copper) and diameter of the cable, and everything else is snake oil. You are very welcome to do a blind ABX test at my place - or any place you like - with your favorite speaker cables, be they cryogenically frozen, unidirectional, or whatever.. against standard "cheap" copper cable that's at least 2.5mm², using a system with speaker cable lengths suitable for the average listening / living room, in such a room. Next - your Sibelius speaker is a simple quarter-wave loudspeaker using a MarkAudio driver that costs €100 at MAXIMUM across the world. You are charging *over* €3000 euros for a speaker that DIY builders make for around €150 a piece. And you know what? I wouldn't care about that if you'd be honest about it and explained about the craftsmanship, the selection of wood, the selection of interior materials (angel hair plucked from a unicorn during a full moon or whatever), and the driver. But you're not. You're simply not being honest. You're selling a speaker that - with craftsmanship and materials included - costs at maximum €200 to make, for €3000, by telling people fairytales about how long the design took (sure the design of quarter wave took some decades - but YOU didn't do that research! It took YOU only *minutes* to use/copy existing formulas to make your Sibelius!). I don't have any problem with Pearl Acoustics selling their speakers at the price you're selling them at. I have a problem with the *bullshit* you spout to defend your pricing. You don't need that. Really, you don't. You need to be honest with people and tell them about your craftsmanship, selection of materials, and warranty. Tell them that yes, people can DIY these speakers, but it takes a LOT of time to do it right, and a LOT of time and a steep learning curve to make them this beautiful. Stop hurting people by telling them fake stories.
@IUsedToBeAPygmy
@IUsedToBeAPygmy 3 года назад
By the way, here are my own DIY quarter wave, full range speakers using Tang Band 1320SIF drivers - using slate stone (much better than ply/mdf to counter resonances) and leather. Cost me about two days to make, total cost per speaker around 130 euros. (It's the small single-driver floorstanders) i.imgur.com/ehNETzj.jpeg So - given it took me about 16 hours to build these, and 130 euros of materials / tools.. if I'd make an hourly wage of 80 euros, and I'd add a 25% margin on top - these would cost around 1700 euros. And honestly, I think they'd be worth it to anyone not being very handy. Yours are priced way above that, because you have more overhead - running a "real" company, with more employees, that needs to be sustainable over the years. I understand. But the way forward is not by bullshitting people. It's by being honest about everything needed in production. About the materials. About the people that make them. About the company. About the fact that to make beautiful speakers like yours, it takes time and investments and people. Stop the snake oil business.
@ReTr093
@ReTr093 3 года назад
What does the voice coil have to do with the question of whether interconnect cables make a difference? That's clearly a false correlation.
@babablacksheep4234
@babablacksheep4234 3 года назад
he mistook the voice coil change (mechanical shape change, which affects resonance etc) with electrical change. big false correlation. from then on, it was all downhill
@grayaudio8657
@grayaudio8657 3 года назад
Приятель, искал твой комент. С одной стороны,даже хорошо, что в мире полно дураков, готовых платить за маркетинг, просто за дизайн люди не хотят платить, им нужны понты! Действительно, форма катушки важна ибо меняет индукцию. меняется зазор в магните. Именно это важно в дизайне акустики. НО ЭТО НЕ ИМЕЕТ НИКАКОГО отношения к серебрянным кабелям. Всего 2 лайка. нужно принять что мир полон дураков и просто делать на них бабки!
@delstanley1349
@delstanley1349 3 года назад
I think he was only trying to make a general point that seemingly innocuous changes can indeed make a surprisingly and significant difference in changing what was once mundane and ordinary into something superior. Instead of the voice coil example I suppose he could have said he could got better gas mileage when he changed the tread design on his car tires, or simply rotated the tires. Moral of the story or point made, he starts his speaker cable talk. Obviously there is no correlation between tires/gas mileage and interconnects or speaker cables, just making the point that small changes anywhere (tires, voice coils, cables, or whatever) can yield beneficial results. That's my take on what he was saying anyway, and not so much about what tire tread (or a voice coil) has to do directly with speaker cables.
@j.m.w.5064
@j.m.w.5064 3 года назад
He gave an example of how small changes in material and composition can have unexpectedly noticable outcomes. Then he he proceeds to explain that the speaker cables are as simple as possible. He is more or less advertising anti-snake-oil and the people in the comments are like "gotcha - snake oil!"
@mechantl0up
@mechantl0up Год назад
Audio cables are like homeopathy: Total BS, no basis in science, and rely on placebo - and provide extremely high profits to those making them. Every hobby has something equivalent by which its industry profits from the idiot set of the hobbyists. It’s a human societal thing, it appears.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Hi, I get your point but I hope you watched the video because in it, I make it quite clear that there is nothing special about our cable, it being made from twisted multi-core copper strands, encased in polymer and Rubber, with high quality banana plugs that clamp into the sockets. However, and this is the thing you might not accept, I say that it is relatively easy to design and make a cable that does alter the sound. You just have to use a sheathing that creates a capacitance and / or add some resistance and inductance. This can be done (and is done). We just like to make ‘neutral’ cables that clamp in place and last forever and cost a price reflecting the materials and the time they take to manufacture. I hope this helps?
@Larwiz
@Larwiz 3 года назад
Beautiful intro and outro. That aside, snake oil.
@markovlasic1978
@markovlasic1978 Год назад
the best sounding voice coil is ultra thin copper foil NOT wires. and lower ohms regime at 2ohms or even less, like 1 ohm or more extreme at 0.5 ohms. so, at 2 ohms or less and almost any cable is irrelevant with that patented hifi speakers. over all sound is absolutely amazing with germanium amp
@SuperMiloBass
@SuperMiloBass 3 года назад
I do enjoy hearing the cod science behind justifying ridiculous prices for equipment including cables. So easy to do a scientific comparison and a blind test. These have been done many times and prove there's no difference ( unless you use damaged cables or wet string ). I can't wait to hear his justification for ridiculously priced digital interconnects. The only advice you need is "if you can't hear the difference, don't pay the difference!"
@SuperMiloBass
@SuperMiloBass 3 года назад
@I was with your mother Digital signal cables make a difference? How? It's a digital signal with error correction. It's binary. Many tests have been done PROVING there's no difference. People are being ripped off.
@joeshmoe7967
@joeshmoe7967 3 года назад
@@SuperMiloBass I agree. Other than a total crap cable no difference. I just a $700 USB 2.0 cable, and the reviewer claimed better bass response. Same with copper vs silver for USB cables.
@automachinehead
@automachinehead 3 года назад
You have to use cable risers that only cost 3,000usd to awaken the electrons inside those 10,000usd and then you also have to let it burn in for a couple hundred hours.
@SuperMiloBass
@SuperMiloBass 3 года назад
@@automachinehead I've realised my mistake and am desperately trying to spend my way out of it.
@iBeaver1973
@iBeaver1973 2 года назад
guess you've never had a wagyu hamburger, have you.... 200 bucks. looks like a 1 dollar burger, but it does taste quite a bit better than the 1 dollar burger... this video is a cook explaining a recipe, for your ears. up to us if we try out his recipe ;-)
@think2023
@think2023 3 года назад
Snake oil alert! If you want to understand electricity this is NOT the man to use as a reference!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Thank you Art. You will see my previous reply, hopefully that will explain the situation better.
@think2023
@think2023 3 года назад
@@PearlAcoustics no, I think I read it all. The issue is that of spreading disinformation which these days is a pandemic all it's own and threatening democracy itself. So..please...due diligence then pontification.. the reverse just doesn't work.
@leesanders6490
@leesanders6490 3 года назад
Bull.
@edd2771
@edd2771 Месяц назад
On a double-blind compare basis, they don’t. Certainly not for 95 out of 100 listeners to such a test. And the 5% that do hear a difference will still have difficultly identifying which cable is which, what is “better” or “worse” about the sound from one or the other, nor will they feel strongly enough to justify a price premium of 2/3/4 X in price, assuming the more expensive cable is the one they identify as “better” in the first place. This is just common sense.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment and contribution to the topic
@MONKE12388
@MONKE12388 3 года назад
Shame about the WooWoo, I enjoy listening to the presenter...he is very watchable...
@Aestheticnerdlife
@Aestheticnerdlife Год назад
How come all the companies that sell expensive cables never show any data from industry standard measurement devices. All they do is use audiophile buzz words describing nonsense. Then you have Audioholics that use expensive equipment to test these cables and find differences so small they are imperceivably to human hearing.
@Richard-bq3ni
@Richard-bq3ni 3 года назад
How do we know how electrons move in a cable by using an electron microscope??
@MrMadvoter1
@MrMadvoter1 3 года назад
and the electron microscope is a type of electronic equipment used to examine visually not sure about any ability to make a measurement
@Richard-bq3ni
@Richard-bq3ni 3 года назад
@@MrMadvoter1 Don't worry. I know what an electron microscope does. I have worked with a TEM. It was meant to be cynical 🙂
@iamsometimes6712
@iamsometimes6712 2 года назад
@@Richard-bq3ni It's a special electron microscope. Made with polycaps and oxygen-free silver cables ! The electrons have no choice but to declare their whereabouts to whomever is watching 😂
@damonm3
@damonm3 Год назад
I’d really love to see this guy a/b blind test whatever best cable he thinks exists vs a sub $100 10 awg ofc and just let it lie where it lays or lays where it lie or whatever’s said…
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Hi. Thanks for your comment. This is exactly the point I am making. Our cables are multi-strand copper (hence ‘neutral’). My video is explaining how, technically how cables can sound different. It can be easily demonstrated when using cables that have been deliberately made ‘to sound different’. Just like adding a capacitor or inductor or resistor (or all three) across a loudspeaker you can very easily shape a different sound. you can also do the same by using the materials in the cable to effectively become a capacitor, inductor or resistor, or all three.
@rainerwaansinn
@rainerwaansinn Год назад
In the 30 years that I have been working in the professional audio universe, one thing has become clear to me: the eye hears more than the ear. 🙂 HiFi is also superstition and I like your way of explaining.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Thanks!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
You make an interesting point Rainer. When I am in front of a chamber ensemble, I often listen with my eyes closed. The funny thing is, when a small ensemble group, play together in an acoustically well balanced hall, there is no ‘soundstage’ as such. the sound of the instruments merges together. But with our eyes open, we can see it. What we achieve in recordings, is to create a soundstage that helps us at home ‘see’ the musicians in front of us. Of course it’s an illusion. But it’s an illusion that brings countless hours of joy to me and millions of people all over the world.
@edaten4205
@edaten4205 Год назад
@@PearlAcousticstremendous comment. Perception is turtles all the way down!
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 11 месяцев назад
Dear Rainer! I have heard the same from a Norwegian music producer!
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 месяцев назад
You are totally right! People are psychologically brainwashed!
@peterrichard3706
@peterrichard3706 Год назад
I use 12 ga copper oxygen free. No banana ,s. 25 ft each side. No problem. Can't find 12 ga at any store. Plenty of 14 ga. Stranded wire. I like the idea of better cables but in a pinch, use 14 ga lamp wire. Cheep and abundant. These companies trying to sell you $$$$$$. Wire is B S. IMHO. I mean if u go from 22 ga to 14 ga u should hear a big difference. I'll NEVER part with my 12 ga copper speaker cables.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Indeed, I am not out to sell loudspeaker cables but to say get simple, multi strand, ofc cable. Good connectors are also a big bonus.
@mrboat580
@mrboat580 Год назад
Been in electronics for over 40 years and wire vs SQ has never been an issue for me. I do like the bit that tightens the banana post in the hole. That's actually simply brilliant.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Thanks. I wish I had invented it! 😉
@fizzygurple
@fizzygurple Год назад
Hi Harley, Another very illuminating video, love the domino analogy. Where can one get the locking banana plugs from please?
@tbrown6559
@tbrown6559 8 месяцев назад
Came here for the comments, love them. Didn’t watch the video yet. I will say, when you look inside a tower speaker ( a have the respectable Rega R7), there is about 4 feet of zip cord ( or something similar) that travels from the binding post to the drivers. To think the 8 feet of external speaker wire makes much difference is pretty funny ( unless it’s very thin aluminum or something). But for some reason my friends still looked upon my good quality but fairly inexpensive cables with disdain. So I made my own, dressed up with nice ends, shrink tubing , and braided sleeves. Thinking I finally invested in higher end cables, They swear it made a difference. But it didn’t. Eyes play tricks on our ears.
@farcydebop
@farcydebop Год назад
The misconception about electricity is very well explained in the controversial Veritasium and Science Asylum channels. The Poynting vector equation shows energy is transmitted through the electric and magnetic field from the source, and not in the wires, resulting in the impedance problem with the first transatlantic communication cables, fried up as people thought increasing the voltage would solve noise distortion.
@grahamsmith8122
@grahamsmith8122 Год назад
Having worked in electronics for 40 years, the biggest problem I have to overcome, is getting my ears to work correctly.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
I think you’re not alone!
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 месяцев назад
Very good!
@williamcotton8746
@williamcotton8746 6 месяцев назад
Be careful of anyone trying to sell you something. You are full of it-you decide what the it is. Can't believe you talked 15 minutes about copper wire you can buy anywhere. I'll bet you want hundreds of dollars for your factory made speaker cables. It doesn't matter if the wire has 80 strands or 60 strands, the length of the cable verses the gauge of the cable is what is important. Even the cheapest copper speaker cable you buy these days is oxygen free. There is no better wire for the job it is asked to do. Do a double blind test and all of you intellectual BS will go away.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 6 месяцев назад
Hi, thanks for your comment. I truly appreciate your opinion. When I was growing up, I couldn’t afford good quality HiFi, so I had to make everything myself, or buy second hand. When I was 21, I set up my first company ‘DIY HiFi’ and we sold plans of one of my loudspeaker designs for people to make at home. From that exercise, I learnt that the vast majority of people couldn’t be bothered to make things themselves and wanted to buy off the shelf. I guess you can compare it with cooking a meal at home versus eating out in a restaurant? It’s much cheaper at home and perhaps the ingredients can even be of a higher quality, but you have to know how, and also be bothered. Our cables are hand made (assembled) in Belgium from high quality components. And you’re absolutely right, anyone can go out and buy the necessary copper cable and some connectors (we use special locking ones that are not easy to find, except on line) and then they will need a good quality hex driver, some sharp wire cutters etc. Or, indeed they could pay a few hundred Euros and buy some ready made from us or other on-line stores. By the way, the cable we use is only available via professional retailers and you need to order 1km at a time. But you’re right, other cable will work too.
@1974UTuber
@1974UTuber 3 года назад
I think the main issue with this video is that you have tried to over explain stuff. What you should have said is this. "We have built the speakers with quality cabling from speakers to rear terminal and designed them to have an overall flat response across the listening sound frequency range" Then added. "No special high end speaker cables are required. Just good quality multi strand copper wire with adequate outer shielding. You can make these yourself or buy them in our store but they are nothing super special" This would have got the point across much better. But thanks anyway for not selling us a bunch of snake oil about high oxygen low carbon gold plated neutron balanced glow in the dark radiation free speaker cables
@tedmingolla2847
@tedmingolla2847 10 месяцев назад
What type of cable were you using that had such a big bump ? I have measured lots of audio cables with some pretty high precision instuments and I have never seen more than a 0.3 db (bump). There are no humans that can hear +/- 0.3db variation. You need no more than good clean copper, anything more is snake oil.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 месяцев назад
Hi Ted, thanks for your question. The bump I refer to was not in the loudspeaker cable but in the actual voice coil of the driver itself. Indeed, most cables do not measure differently (or their difference is almost too small to measure). Hoping this helps?
@jamiermathlin
@jamiermathlin 3 года назад
The water pipe analogy would be the same as having the end of the cable connected to ground, having an open pipe is the same as a grounded cable, if you had a stop on the pipe you would have the same analogy as an open circuit cable ! Unfortunately, you have done little to settle the controversy over speaker cables. large cross-sectional area quality speaker cable (12SWG for example) has little inductance or capacitance, and you cannot compare voice coil dynamics and frequency response to an ultra-low impedance cable. Agreed if you compare bell wire with a good-sized quality cable there will be a difference, but spending more than a few dollars per meter on speaker cable is completely pointless, it's all about impedance, as the inductance and capacitance are negligible. Sorry to disagree with you, but I am an electrical engineer with 35 years of experience and I have also been into high-end audio for 20 years, trust me I have tried all sorts of solutions, and there is little basis in spending 100's dollars on cable, you are wasting your money. the majority of claims I have seen and witnessed rely on the placebo effect. My advice use 16-10SWG (1.6-3.25mm) good quality audio cable priced at 1-2 dollars per meter and you will achieve 99.99% of what you are aiming for. Your pre-stages, DAC's. amplifiers and speakers and room! will have far more impact on the sound that you are producing, than cables ever will !
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Dear Jamie, thank you for your excellent comments. I absolutely agree with you fir the most part. And I hope I don’t give a different opinion. I wanted to emphasis that everything else is more important that the speaker cables and these should be looked at last. I am completely in line with your view on the cables themselves and our cables are not magic, just high quality, thick cables that we sell at a price that reflects the costs of the limited production run, handmade effort that goes into them. But we are often asked what cables do we recommend and we say thick multi-strand. And some people want to know what cables we used during the development process. I was surprised, however, how some proprietary cables changed the sound and I realised that this could have only occurred by them deliberately changing the capacitance, inductance, and or resistance within the cable.
@jamiermathlin
@jamiermathlin 3 года назад
@@PearlAcoustics thank you for taking the time to reply, it would seem that in general, we agree with each other :-) and please do not get me wrong, I like your channel and your commentary, I was just trying to be heplful with my comment. keep up the good work !
@Rene_Christensen
@Rene_Christensen 6 месяцев назад
Cables are well understood via transmission line theory, which are one-dimensionel in nature, although they can include three-dimensional effects implicitly (such as skin effects). For the frequencies involved with audio, the cable lengths are short enough that zero-dimensional lumped models will fully describe the cable just as well as the transmission line model, which greatly simplify things, since only 3-4 components are needed. But people will rather listen, well-knowing which cable is connected, thinking they are not biased at all, and not at all consider that getting up and changing the cable and sitting down in a slighly different position will change the response way more than the cable itself did.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 6 месяцев назад
That’s absolutely true.. the cable effect or better, affect… is only minimal at best and seating positions, or a change of mood etc can have a noticeable difference. At the end of the day, we believe multi strand, good quality copper works just fine. It’s a way to get peace of mind.
@hazexwhatever
@hazexwhatever 3 года назад
A full range driver with no Baffle Step, or Impedance Compensation. I would think with a set up like that, speaker cables would be the least of your worries.
@Zockopa
@Zockopa Год назад
Everbody knows that speakercables and interconnects can change the sound - if you use bad ones. And btw some of those come with a hefty pricetag and a thick book worth of pseudoscience and philosophy. Anyway for the normal home hifi user a 2 x 2,5qmm - 4qmm fine wired coppercable will do just fine as speaker cable. Personaly i had no negative experiences with that in the last bunch of decades.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Absolutely!
@stephenstrings
@stephenstrings 3 года назад
Magic hoo hah .
@caribtor
@caribtor Месяц назад
Interesting, but where is the evidence/documentation that this has ANY influence on the listening experience as experienced by the listener?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Месяц назад
Hi, you raise a good point. As you probably saw in the video was that my conclusion was to use multi-strand copper, because the idea is not to influence the sound. It is really easy for a cable manufacturer to ‘shape’ the sound, if they want to by simply building capacitance into the cable (usually this results in a rolling off of the treble). This can be noticeable but, we only recommend using high quality, multi-strand copper, with good connectors at both ends. It works, it’s not expensive and never needs changing.
@cornwallonline
@cornwallonline 3 года назад
It's a shame the cables have a white rubber insulating core. I find a light blue works best with rubber, especially on a Monday, although sky-blue-pink seems best for PVC covered cable, but it is in short supply, due to Covid 19 and the cold weather in Canada. Looking at the cost of most 'audiofool' cables, it is also cost-effective to braze pound coins together to create a nice, sturdy cable, although they are a trip hazard to small children and giraffe's....(polish your coins first, though, as the skin effect is a real issue at higher frequencies) 😉
@HandbrakeBiscuit
@HandbrakeBiscuit 3 года назад
I suspect this post is not entirely serious, yet I enjoyed it greatly. Don't craze the pound coins together too strongly - they need to move so they can bash into each other and make the electrons move without moving.
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 3 года назад
Check out Peter Belt and his amazing and crazy tweaks.
@iamsometimes6712
@iamsometimes6712 2 года назад
You, Sir, must be jesting. Surely you know that elevating said cables from the ground to avoid the mighty ground effect that demonstrably spinabulates electromagnetic interferences is of utmost importance. I dare say even more important than rubber sheathing in the 1st place ! And don't go for the cheap twice-baked ceramic conical ones that were broken in for less than 200 hours. Those are certainly not Audiophile quality !
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 8 месяцев назад
I dont have a problem admitting my DH Labs speaker cables were more money than the Magenepan LRS. Fortunately my hearing can discern improvements in sound based on years of concert band for one. If your ears cant tell what real music should sound like stick with cheap cables.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for your comment
@savoyradio
@savoyradio 3 года назад
So the reason the sound didn't sound quite right was down to the incorrect design of the speaker coil
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Dear Savoyradio, the coil was fine for what it was designed for. But because we don’t use any crossovers or filters we needed a slight modification for our cabinets.
@assistantto007
@assistantto007 Месяц назад
This is simply a very drawn out advert for pearl speaker cable.. Shame on you
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Месяц назад
Hi, thanks for your comment. I am sorry if it came over that way but we had so many people asking us about cables and what we recommend and why, that I thought it was easiest to explain in a video. I do explain that our cables are just multi-strand copper with good quality connectors, so that is very easy for anyone to go out and make their own. Hope this makes sense?
@radoklose9779
@radoklose9779 2 года назад
Well there you are 10 AWG copper , the sensible choice, given that there has never been any blind test that demonstrated any difference whatsover between cables .
@AudioGuyBrian
@AudioGuyBrian Год назад
I can for sure see the need for large gauge speaker cables and interconnects if you are running long distances. Like your speaker cables need to be on the order of 200 feet long each channel. Same for wattage load. I would not want to push a 2,000 Watt amp at 80% full power down a lamp cord. LOL. It would obviously probably burn up over time.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Absolutely
@paolozak3014
@paolozak3014 3 года назад
my guess is that by changing the shape of the voice coil wire, your driver supplier has improved the efficiency while shifting the RLC characteristics of it, thus changing the inevitable resonance peaks in a way the shrillness between 2 and 4 kHz found itself to be tamed to acceptable levels
@iamsometimes6712
@iamsometimes6712 2 года назад
Most likely. Immediately making an analogy between this and speaker cables at 7:49 is quite a leap...
@starofcctv94
@starofcctv94 Год назад
I'm not sure your story about changing the speaker coil says anything about how cables work. The speaker coils create a magnetic field that directly move the drivers while the cables just carry a signal. It's obvious that making even small changes to the shape of the magnetic field will change the sound of the speaker. You say that silver plated wires sound brighter? How? Are you claiming that silver conducts high frequencies better than copper? Or is it just that silver is brighter visually than copper and there's a boubou/Kiki effect going on. An audio dealer once told me a wooden amplifier rack would sound warmer than a glass one, this seems like similar effect.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Hi thanks for your comment. I have noticed that silver cables make a difference from hard practical experience. I do not know exactly how. Also many cables are given a capacitance that effects their sound. However, the big point I tried to make is that good, multi-strand copper works just fine. And that any difference is way less than changing any other component.
@tanyet
@tanyet 3 года назад
Cables are passive. They have no “sound”. If a cable sounds brighter than another it simply means it has less capacitance and is letting more of the signal through. Just get a good quality cable with low capacitance and be done with it. One can find these on the cheap. Who in the world would want to “equalize” with a cable. Considering we have about 5 seconds of audio memory to compare cables, without measurements it is a pointless exercise.
@willemgoudappel5833
@willemgoudappel5833 Год назад
I spoke with some one of the Dutch KEF distributor about witch cable to use with my KEF speakers. He told me that the only thing that is important is the electrical resistance of the cable, you can even use cheap electrical cable. Expensive cabels dont do anything to influence the sound, they are just a waste of money.
@nedward5871
@nedward5871 Год назад
I'd suggest that before spending $300+ on speaker cables, spend the money on acoustically treating the room. Otherwise you're casting pearls before swine as you don't know what you should be hearing. I always am surprised by the money spent on power, speaker and interconnect cables instead of addressing the room acoustics with bass traps, diffusors, etc.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Hi Ned, you’re absolutely right. Our cables ‘won’t make a difference’ unless there’s something wrong with one’s cables and the room is always the first place to start. I hope I make that clear in the video? At best they can only be the finishing touch’ (unless you need some anyway).
@summerforever6736
@summerforever6736 Год назад
I have been using welding cables for my speakers for 30 years works marvelous
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
😀
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 6 месяцев назад
You are so right!
@buzzcrushtrendkill
@buzzcrushtrendkill 2 месяца назад
Do a double blind test between 16guage lamp cord and "magic" high priced audio cables.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 месяца назад
Hi, thanks for your comment. As you probably saw in my conclusion. We recommend straight forward multi-strand copper cables, but there are some high-end cable manufacturers that do bend the sound with their cables, and these can be clearly audible in a very revealing system.
@hobo1452
@hobo1452 3 года назад
Sorry, but 90% of all the hoopla about audiophile cabling is just that, hoopla. Spending $1000 for a 10 foot audiophile speaker cable vs $100 for a well built and properly insulated copper cable won't give you $900 worth of better sound. Your $900 lighter wallet and ego will tell you it does, but physics and metallurgy make the ultimate decision. Something as simple as a $.50 cent clam shell rf choke placed on either the positive or negative lead of each speaker cable will make more of a difference for a hell of a lot less money. Knowledge and common sense are what separates audiophiles from audiophools.
@pennfootball71
@pennfootball71 2 года назад
Depends...tube amps for example like different cables than class D amps or AB sometimes. IT also depends on the speaker...adding jumper cables helps more than the cheap brass bar they use on bi wire terminals. Cables can also tune things and add more excitment or more bass and EQ some things. Synergistic research has a warm sound fuse and a cool sound fuse for some of their cables. These speakerss also do not have crossover networks and PCB boards. It is a pure connection. When you have crossover filters and resistors and capacitors in the mix you might have other issues cables can adjust.
@gavinhall4112
@gavinhall4112 Год назад
Something people forget, is that providing shiny expensive things for the wealthy to spend their money on, is in itself a service. It provides employment and doesn't harm anyone. Luxury goods are not about really about function.
@hobo1452
@hobo1452 Год назад
@@gavinhall4112 Yup. Just like a Rolex watch. A good quartz watch is more accurate, but doesn't make the same statement as the Rolex.
@hobo1452
@hobo1452 Год назад
@@pennfootball71 All true. Having run solid state, hybrid, and pure tube equipment along with both low and high efficiency speakers, I can attest to your point. Cables can definitely make a difference. I draw the line when it comes to actually getting your money's worth on uber expensive cables.
@pennfootball71
@pennfootball71 Год назад
@@hobo1452 for the Money I like Kubala Sosna
@marksonsparks698
@marksonsparks698 7 месяцев назад
Hmm. I can see where your exalted speaker driver designer changing the voice coil can effect an improvement in the output of that driver but I'm still shaking my head about changes in the cable. An analogy might be a violin maker changing some part of the body of the instrument might change its sound but suggesting changing the tuning pegs will change the sound would have me scratching my head.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 7 месяцев назад
Hi, I totally get where you’re coming from. I too was very sceptical. Changing a cable is a bit closer to changing a string, rather than a tuning peg. 😉 But the point I was trying to make is this. Compared with the wire in microphones and loudspeaker drivers, loudspeaker cables are not nearly as critical. Having said that, there are loudspeaker cable manufacturers out there who deliberately make cables that impact the sound. They do this by changing either capacitance, inductance or resistance, or a combination of all three in the cable. It’s easily done. This is why we decided to run with plain, high quality, multi strand copper for our cables. On the basis that it is readily available and people on a budget can easily make their own.
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 5 месяцев назад
i'm convinced . keep in mind i start every video i watch on any subject with the intent to disagree or be insulting , but he crushed my bad attitude in short order with his sensible and lucid presentation .
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! 😅
@MichaelFaughn
@MichaelFaughn 7 месяцев назад
He didn't even get the water pipe analogy correct. In that analogy, voltage is not the speed of flow, it is the water pressure. He goes on to completely miss the fact that a voice coil is an inductor. So, his driver designer actually changed an inductor (part of a motor), which is a far cry from what he tries to describe. This guy is full of beans but at least he isn't perpetuating cable snake oil.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 7 месяцев назад
Hi, thanks for your comment. Indeed, I could have explained the water pipe better, I was only really looking at flow to ground, rather than how I could have explained electricity itself… a missed an opportunity. As for your observation in the inductance of the voice coil, that’s so obvious it’s brilliant. You are the first of all my commenters to have picked this up and after so many years of designing crossovers and step filters, I completely overlooked this because I was focusing on the change in the profile of the wire of the coil itself. Perhaps both is true, who knows? The important thing is the upper mids were significantly improved and my enclosure design was saved and now we have very happy clients, all over the world.
@patrickmeylemans9627
@patrickmeylemans9627 2 года назад
Do all the rest first… if you believe that they make a difference. Dit some tests myself and could not hear any difference between a decent cable and a very expensive one. Experiment with the placement of your speakers, it is free and has way more impact than any cable but a faulty one. Instead of spending much money on cables try some room correction systems like Lyngdorf, will have way more impact like cables too… and above all listen to the music and not to the equipment…
@Dawizbuffy
@Dawizbuffy 2 месяца назад
First is room, second is electric, third is speakers, front end, amp, cables.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing
@PeterEVcharade
@PeterEVcharade Год назад
I believe that speaker cable can make a difference. However, the reason is not the one that most people presume. Usually the difference is quite subtle, which leads to arguments. It can also be inconsistent, which leads to all sorts of mysticism about matching and tuning by ear etc. I suspect that the root cause of all this is in amplifier design and the fact a speaker cable is not simply a low resistance connection between amp and speaker terminals but also adds in some inductance and capacitance that appear across the amplifier terminals along with the speaker load. I once had two amplifiers I was playing around with and I also had two pairs of speakers and two lots of cable. Rather than getting a subtle difference when trying different permutations, I got obvious gross misbehaviour of one amp with one cable that was fine with the other amp and vice-versa. Each amp was obviously distorting with one cable while sounding very good with the other. The differences were opposite and not subtle. This made me believe that in other circumstances there could be real but more subtle differences experienced by people swapping cables around and one person's great cable could be disappointing for another person. One speaker pair was my very good main set only a few meters from the amplifiers in the living room. The other pair were quite a bit further away in another room and quite good but nothing special - the kitchen speakers. I had some ordinary figure 8 lamp flex as the speaker cable for the remote set and I had some fancy, silver-coated, audiophile-branded cable for the shorter run to the main speakers. The figure 8 cable had the two conductors running close and parallel to each for a long distance. This made the cable also a capacitor across the amplifier terminals. One amp was stable into that and the other wasn't. The amp that had a problem with a long run of figure 8 lamp flex was fine with a shorter run of the same stuff. The audiophile cable was completely separate single conductor cables that ran along with quite a bit of separation between them - little capacitance but adding some series inductance (even a straight wire has some inductance). The other amplifier did not like seeing that load but was fine with any amount of figure 8. The fix was quite easy. I put a Zobel network between the speaker terminal and the start of the cable. A zobel is essentially a simple passive crossover such as one might have in a 2-way speaker between tweeter and woofer except that the crossover frequency is set well above 20kHz. The low pass side sends all the audio frequencies to the speaker while the high pass side gives ultrasonic frequencies a simple 8 ohm resistor as the load. The amps sees a more well-behaved load. Many amplifiers have such a network built in but some don't, perhaps to give better looking specs such as very wide bandwidth, well beyond the audio range. A better design, as many have, would be to add this simple network on the output inside the amp, ensure that the amp has a known, designed load at ultrasonic frequencies and it would be more immune to differences of cable or even quirky speaker loads.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Dear Peter, thanks for your contribution to the topic. Much appreciated
@Roosville1
@Roosville1 8 месяцев назад
I don't get the relationship being drawn between a free stading cable and the winding of a magnetic motor, (voive coil) they are apples and hedgehogs. Round conductor windings leaves air gaps, hexagonal wire eliminates gaps, changes the parasitics, this sort of stuff is well known and will effect a wire coil moving at velocity in a huge magnetic field, with the cable, I can't see where there link is.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for your comment, to be honest it was a bit of a diversion in my improvised talk. I was quite shocked, at the time, how so few people knew how electricity was generated, so it was obviously in my mind. I even go into it in more detail in a later talk. This was one of my first.
@colderwar
@colderwar 2 года назад
Silver plated copper wire - of a very high quality - is easy to source and not all that expensive, as long as you buy it from a military electronics surplus supplier. Miles of it are used inside every aircraft. I've got a whole reel of it here. But I bought it because it's nice to solder, not because it can have any effect on the sound of a hifi. Audio cables can only have a particular sound if there's something wrong with them, like a bad connection or a grossly underspecifed diameter for the power they are handling - unless you live in a universe where the laws of physics are different to this one - I wonder if that universe is where all the audiophiles live ?
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
"I wonder if that universe is where all the audiophiles live ?" Reality. I've been listening to claims like yours for over 30 years. I'm still waiting for a single credible test to prove people like you are right. If you can't produce anything real, why would anyone believe you?
@fins59
@fins59 Год назад
​@@AT-wl9yq The ridiculous claims come from the woo woo cable manufacturers and gullible people who think that if it's more expensive then it must be better. It's you and peple like you who need to provide credible blind tests to prove that stuff like 'oxygen free' copper cables or unobtainium coated cables sound better than normal multi stranded copper cables of adequate size and this has never been done. Only fools believe the woo woo cable bullshit.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
@@fins59 Lets say you're right and there really is no difference between cables. How would you prove it to me that its all in my head?
@fins59
@fins59 Год назад
@@AT-wl9yq I don't need to prove that it's all in your head, it's up to you to provide the evidence if you believe these claims that exotic expensive speaker cables are better than ordinary multi stranded copper cables of adequate size. It not too much different from people claiming that the Earth is flat, I don't need to prove them wrong, I know it isn't flat, science says it's not flat and most sane people dont believe that rubbish. I don't need to prove the blatantly obvious, it's up to you with your claims about woo woo cables to prove it's not in your head.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Год назад
@@fins59 The reason I'm asking you for proof is because I know for a fact, you can't do it. "I don't need to prove that it's all in your head, it's up to you to provide the evidence if you believe these claims that exotic expensive speaker cables are better than ordinary multi stranded copper cables of adequate size." I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. However, after reading the above, Its clear you don't have a full understanding of the scientific method, especially when it comes to evidence. Its not my fault you don't you don't know these things, its yours. There's so much credible evidence on cables and accessories, you could spend the rest of your life and still not go through it all. Also, I've never made any claims about expensive cables being better, and I never will. Price isn't objective, and it can't tell you anything about a cable. Same thing with "sounds better". Its subjective. Its impossible to prove that something sounds better than something else. Its an opinion. I would suggest you do a little research as to how this all works. That way, you can have more relevant discussions.
@oo131193oo
@oo131193oo 9 месяцев назад
Thats a lot of talking for just saying, that cable do not really matter or differ, just needs some good quality copper with a large diameter and solid terminations that make good contact.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for your neat resume of the video. Indeed it is, but I wanted to take my audience on the journey and explain that it is possible to change the sound of a loudspeaker by designing in attributes into a cable, and therefore some manufacturers do. That does not mean better, per se, and we don’t recommend them.
@hugheffo
@hugheffo 3 года назад
OFC cables are all smoke and mirrors. Normal copper core is 99.99% pure. OFC copper core is 99.995% pure. I defy anybody with run lengths of less than 20ft to tell the difference
@willbrooksy
@willbrooksy 3 года назад
Used to believe the same till recently.... tested my Audeze LCD3’s with my Mojo using standard cables then upgraded to the Norsost 2 cable. Difference was somewhere between the difference of using the standard cable and the Hugo2. Huge difference between the best and standard on a 5ft length for sure!!!
@tomstubbsmusic
@tomstubbsmusic 3 года назад
@@willbrooksy SORRY FOR MY IGNORANCE AND CAPS. Is the shorter the cable the better the sound?
@automachinehead
@automachinehead 3 года назад
@@tomstubbsmusic No he fell for the snake oil scam.
@1974UTuber
@1974UTuber 3 года назад
@@tomstubbsmusic Yes. All cables suffer from 2 main things. 1) Resistance over length of cable 2) Interference from other electrical signals. The shorter the run of cable the better it will all behave for you. This does not just apply to speaker cables
@PG-rr8lb
@PG-rr8lb 3 года назад
There's another problem, first you have to clear your ears - I mean really have them professionally cleaned once in a while - if not you cannot tell the difference. Not kidding.
@pc750-V4
@pc750-V4 Год назад
Nothing like a hifi cable video to bring out the naysayers like moth's to a flame, but I just wish they wouldn't bother and just stayed away but they just can't help it, they have an addiction (and probably a search algorithm to find all the discussions just so they can chip in the usual commentary)
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Thanks for your comment Peter.
@Piano-rk8os
@Piano-rk8os 3 года назад
Countless blindtests showed that good standard cables are not distinguishable from the 1000 € High End Cables... the results were always what would have been the mathematical outcome of guesswork . I bought some thicker copper cables because they do look better :-) That's all.
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 3 года назад
Some people listen with their eyes and not their ears.
@Omegaman1969
@Omegaman1969 Год назад
True, 2.5mm solid copper power cable will be adequate for any home setup.
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 11 месяцев назад
Tests have proved that you are right!
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 11 месяцев назад
​dear David! You are right! Hifi experts and vine experts are the same. They are cowards because they do not dare to take part in blind tests!
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 11 месяцев назад
Finally an intelligent man! I have tormented hifi fanatics by asking why they do not use pure gold!?
@tyroneedge8267
@tyroneedge8267 Год назад
This entire video is native advertising at its most extreme. “It’s about speaker cables”- no it isn’t, it’s about how great your speakers are. Yuck.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Sorry you didn’t like it
@StormCentre88
@StormCentre88 3 года назад
How embarrassing. This dude made a video that implicitly explains all that he doesn't know without him really realizing it. And the subject was speaker cables !!!!
@barrymiller3385
@barrymiller3385 Год назад
Why are you embarrassed? It's never too late to learn! 👍🏻
@StormCentre88
@StormCentre88 Год назад
@@barrymiller3385 I'm not embarrassed. I was commenting on the person that shot/uploaded the video. Anyone with a electrical/electronic engineering background knows that the Hi Fi industries obsession with speaker cables is akin to selling/broadcasting the healing properties of snake oil.
@Bob.martens
@Bob.martens Год назад
Current is NOT electrons bashing. Sorry, Harley.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Indeed. It is hard to know how best to describe electricity. I do believe that I over simplified the topic but I was trying to make a point.
@christopherward5065
@christopherward5065 2 года назад
As you explained, there is a lot of difficulty in reaching a balance between the main variables in a loudspeaker cable that make for a believable sound at the listening position. A lot of what we get out depends on the magnetic field the alternating signal current generates, alternating the positions of the electrons inside the metallic crystals in the wire filaments of the cable. Then, it’s a consideration of how those myriad magnetic fields in each metallic crystal interact with the magnetic fields in adjacent crystals. The magnetic fields do work on each other and together generate a general magnetic field around the wire that moves any nearby electrons too and, according to how any electron was moving when it met the change in its local magnetic field, electron movements can actually be antithetical to transmission of the signal that is modulating the electrons’ positions. The wire ends up as a system where the signal current modulating magnetic fields creates many more magnetic fields which induce many more different currents. The longer the wire gets the more entropic the movements until the modulation is finally masked and the signal is no longer discernible. The system is not at all simple or pure in reality and, only a proportion of the intended signal remains to do useful work at the drive unit, as a magnetic field around the voice coil. The wire is also an aerial and creates part of a tuned circuit that can take radio frequencies back into the amplifier. I like how you addressed the problem by creating a reference cable to act as a known starting position for Sibelius’ neutrality. Cables behave predictably as part of the system they’re in.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 года назад
Thank you for your comment and understanding as to why we wanted to build a reference point. It's appreciated.
@dudemastermaster8944
@dudemastermaster8944 2 года назад
Yes as far as I have learned to date, to really understand why cables do matter, you’d need a degree as a physicist. The only thing to me that matters is though, that it has a tremendous impact on how the system acts and therefor creating the illusion of something sounding „right“ or „real“. Thanks for the infos
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 года назад
@@dudemastermaster8944 you’re welcome!
@PeterEVcharade
@PeterEVcharade Год назад
The 'hydraulic' model gets a bit garbled in the explanation at the beginning. Voltage is analogous to the pressure in a water pipe. It's current that is analogous to the speed of flow of water through the pipe. We even use the same word 'current' for water flow in a river or electricity flowing in a circuit. Analgous to the water spilling out the end of the hose, electrons would travel out the end of the electrical cable if there were a similarly low resistance. The end of the hose is (continuing the analogy) shorted to the kitchen floor. In contrast the power lead is terminated by a very good insulator - a lot of air - so there is no flow. The voltage (pressure) is present but no current.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Dear Peter, very nicely put. Thanks for your contribution
@KingOath
@KingOath 3 года назад
Great video and I mean no disrespect, but changing the shape of the voice coil wire didn’t change the sound in and of itself. The shape determines how much copper will fit into a given space. A winding of round wire will have small gaps where the turns and layers don’t fully occupy the available space. A square wire will pack tightly together. A rectangular or flat ribbon wire wound on its short edge will allow more turns of wire for a given height and diameter, compared to a square wire. These things affect the performance of the coil in different ways when combined with other variables of the design. So he didn’t improve the speaker by changing the shape of the wire, he did it by using a different shaped wire to create a different specification of voice coil, which is an important factor in any design. And I only mention this to educate and demystify the story, not to shit on your great video or to be a smart ass. The more we know the more we can enjoy music!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Dear Marty. You’re absolutely right and perhaps I should have mentioned the mechanical impacts of the change of profile on the performance of the voice coil. However, I have on good authority from a physicist from the university of Leuven, that indeed the profile of a conductor does have an effect on the clustering of electrons within the conductor and can, in itself impact the pattern of conductivity and thus sound. What I believe you and I are both in agreement on, is that the smallest change in a voice coil can have a big impact on sound. If another physicist wants to come back to challenge the profile theory and our empirical evidence, that would be very interesting to hear.
@roberthesse5990
@roberthesse5990 3 года назад
@@PearlAcoustics I have just discovered your channel and greatly enjoy your down to earth, sometimes contrarian exposition. Electron “clustering” occurs on an ultra micro scale can be ignored on the scale of speaker cables. At a curent of one mA ca 6 times 10 to the power 12 electrons flow in one milli second, more than enough to average out clustering. None the less you came out right with cables and, yes, the shape of cables can influence speaker behaviors but it does so through inductance and capacitance. Keep up the wonderful videos, Sibelius could put more memorable musical themes in a single movement than most composers in a lifetime.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
@@roberthesse5990 thank you Robert! I couldn’t think of a more suitable composer to name our speakers after!
@davidkosa
@davidkosa 3 года назад
I agree with you in your analysis. I find it a mighty big stretch to extrapolate a voice coil modification all the way to interconnects.
@HandbrakeBiscuit
@HandbrakeBiscuit 3 года назад
Nice job, Marty McFly. I concur completely. ATC, the loudspeaker manufacturer of much renown, quite openly say that they flatten wire in order to get more turns into a given magnet gap and thus make a stronger motor in their speaker driver. They do the flattening themselves on a machine that (I think - but am not sure) they built themselves, so they can get it exactly how they want it.
@jimmythefish
@jimmythefish 10 месяцев назад
If cables really mattered you could show the difference clearly with different cables. That it is a contentious topic still suggests it’s not a big deal.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 месяцев назад
Hi, thanks for your comment. I hope I emphasised that compared with the wire in microphones and loudspeaker drivers that cover high frequencies, loudspeaker cables are not nearly as critical. Having said that, there are loudspeaker cable manufacturers out there deliberately making cables that sound different. They do this by changing either capacitance, inductance or resistance, or a combination of the three. This is why we decided to run with plain, high quality, multi strand copper for our cables. On the basis that it is readily available and people on a budget can easily make their own. Hoping this answers your concern?
@lemigrant
@lemigrant 2 года назад
Once it’s digital, cables do nothing. Once its alanog, any 10$ do the job.
@asadabbasmirza9519
@asadabbasmirza9519 Год назад
Do computers go awry with bad ordinary copper cables in fact silver cables. Don't u feel ashamed . If one starts seeing the language of Hi-fi ,irs all based around love Warm,silky smooth.Adds touch of that silky .... Insert a .....and oh! I couldn't believe. My emotions just .... U walk into the ..... I came ......
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Hi thanks for your comment. Absolutely, you will find all kinds of metals and metal alloys used in all kinds of electronic equipment. Not just copper. In recording studios, we have been using silver plated. Multi strand copper microphone cables for years, especially when matched with certain kinds of microphone. With the birth of conducting polymers we expect these to keep in too, in the coming years. Hoping that helps?
@asadabbasmirza9519
@asadabbasmirza9519 Год назад
@Pearl Acoustics I have read about skin effect . Is Wikipedia the last word. See null test by ethan winer? Who has the brain registration. It takes let's say 20 minutes to change cables or components. Who can pin point these differences. Do recording studios use the NASA technology cables from microphones to recording compressors ,mixers..... Altec compressors r still used by sane people . Do they listen to playback of recording in mixing studios on space age materials. Good strategy to use NASA .... Applo 11 airship... Yes ,without room accoustics no nuances can be noticed. I has Arcam CD player .Added TENT Labs DAC , Lord no change. Still spent more on Cyrus and dedicated Cyrus power supply . Very little which is still doubtful. Power supplies ,clean mains . U think a meter or so of power cable can make a difference ,when from power house to ur transformer then into ur home wiring into the meter of power cable.oops! Bears me. Good amps have built in power supplies with diodes or rectifiers then filters ...no ripples ....clean DC where needed and AC where heeded. Pl.Send me a pair to beat my Altec A7 with 515 B driver 288 compression driver or my ESL 63. Or even my PSB T45 . Leak St20 or Macintosh A123 . It would be great to audition your speakers as I have Jordan JSX 92 tried in different enclosures including one horn by Nelson Pass .
@dailyfrenchie9047
@dailyfrenchie9047 3 года назад
Harley, you are a fantastic ambassador for hi-fi. Thank you for your video series. I just like how you avoid so much of the hyperbole and hype. Also, the aesthetic of your listening room is fantastic. I think that could be a video.... the importance of aesthetics in hi-fi -- almost as contentious as the effect of cables. To me, since my system is in my living room, the aesthetic is very important. To others, they seem to not care as long as it sounds good. However, I do think it makes a difference. To each their own I guess.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Thank you so much for your kind words. For me, having everything neat and tidy is important. I like to be able to relax when listening to music, and that helps. As does an inspirational painting! Keep your suggestions coming for new topics. I will be making some more after the Christmas break, right now we are busy in the factory, making sure to get our customer orders out in time and I am just finishing the mastering of a new double CD of Belgian classical music. The theme tune for my videos will be featured on it!
@asadabbasmirza9519
@asadabbasmirza9519 Год назад
Well , nobody bothers to respond . U r patient of v good demeanour I am always open to varying opinions. Read a lot . Thank u for a response.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
You’re welcome
@miltonfriesen8206
@miltonfriesen8206 Год назад
I have a reasonable quality collection of components and like many, it's tough to get the sound exactly how one prefers it. I have tried a few different brands of interconnects and speaker cables over the years, and with higher end, more sensitive equipment, cables make an obvious difference to the sound due to capacitance, inductance etc that makes components react differently to each other. It's mostly a crap-shoot getting the right mix, but when you do it's certainly night and day and I used to be the guy that laughed at people that praised the cable voodoo. It's more science than fiction, and it's doesn't necessarily take expensive cabling to get the desired effect as I recently found out.
@healthylifestyle3427
@healthylifestyle3427 Год назад
With respect, that makes exactly no sense and has never been proved. So if you did indeed heard difference (which no one ever proved), no engineer (no electric engineer nor sound engineer, no music producer for that matter) could make sense of what you heard and why. So how would someone come up with a 'technology' that is making clear changes in sound quality, if it is impossible to conceive it nor to test it? It really must be magician working at it. Would be interesting to wonder how come audio component are so sensitive that they produce impossible things to measure nor explain but video doesnt have any of those issues. Nor does the equipment at the ER, or in a science lab in a university. Only your speakers for your hears. Wild. Anyway, if you enjoy your speakers, that is all that matter!
@engjds
@engjds Год назад
Makes no logical sense mate, but even showing you mathematical proof I guess you wont believe it, because logic doesnt really come into these arguments, your eyes and belief shapes your perception of what you hear...true fact.
@engjds
@engjds Год назад
@@healthylifestyle3427 Good reply, I think all electrical/electronic engineers that understand ohms law, knows speaker cables are unimportant (as long as you get the right awg), but unfortunately its impossible to convince those that have no interest in engineering. Sound perception, db threshold levels etc are well known and researched, so we know what thresholds people can hear and therefore simple calculations on power loss clearly show its impossible for ANYONE to hear a difference between two 'good enough' cables.
@DH10459
@DH10459 Год назад
Looks like what he is showing in the video is single conductor cab tire, around about 12 AWG
@astolatpere11
@astolatpere11 Год назад
If your hifi system is well made, then so should the cables connecting it all together. Doesn't mean you have to spend a fortune, though. Use sense.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Absolutely agreed.
@TheFilwud
@TheFilwud 3 года назад
Water analogy- diameter of pipe = resistance of cable, smaller pipe = higher resistance. Water pressure differential- voltage, higher pressure difference = higher voltage Speed of water through pipe- amps flowing through a wire. Start the water moving, it starts through the whole pipe even though the water molecules are only moving slowly, they start moving together throughout the pipe, same with electrons, they move slowly but they all start together, well, at the speed of light.
@ozgurinsan
@ozgurinsan 2 года назад
they make no differnece.
@vladishere
@vladishere 3 года назад
Hi-Fi is a hobby and a passion. Engineering is essential part by any means. All the materials have their own fundamental specs and porpoise. Yours approach sir is very clear and honest. From this point we start to differ acceptance and understanding between us, audiophile is a world not meant for many. Apricated.
@PeterEVcharade
@PeterEVcharade Год назад
Only the most audiophile components incorporate porpoise. The cheaper ones often have just ordinary common dolphin products.
@hifijohn
@hifijohn Год назад
Hi-Fi is a hobby and a passion. but audiophile is a mental disorder.
@ivaniuliano170
@ivaniuliano170 11 дней назад
The question of cables is a great mystification! Business only!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 дней назад
Hi, I like to think in our case it is not business only, we encourage people to simply use multi strand copper cable for their loudspeakers. But I agree the topic has been exploited by some
@ivaniuliano170
@ivaniuliano170 9 дней назад
​​@@PearlAcoustics Well, where are the scientific evidence, the measurements...? People's ears are not reliable!
@theprince08853
@theprince08853 3 года назад
You are brave to post this video. I would just say I respectfully disagree and that a functioning cable does not sound different from each other. Also, mechanically changing the shape of the voice coil will affect resonance but isn't really anything to do with cables or conductance. Thanks for the video though and I like your presentation style.
@WSS_the_OG
@WSS_the_OG 11 месяцев назад
For anyone who says they don't make a difference, I disagree completely. They make a very noticeable difference to my wallet, and that's an objective I can measure.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 11 месяцев назад
😉
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 11 месяцев назад
In fairness I do not equate ‘expensive’ with better. In fact in my video I expressly say that we chose to use multi-strand copper for our cables.
@robertm8518
@robertm8518 2 года назад
There are four main factors that affect speaker cables: The material of the conductor, Resistance, inductance, capacitance. minimize these as much as possible and you’ll have a great sounding cable. Multi strand OCC Copper sounds wonderful.
@1055Jade
@1055Jade 2 года назад
Youngster in fun king move Young
@landiepete
@landiepete 2 года назад
You missed the dielectric completely. I don't normally wade into this, but since the clip is made by a 'trade specialist' I'm going to. *The* determinig factors for 'transmission of electricity' are Maxwell's equations and the Poynting vector. Understand those and you know why cables matter. For better or worse depends, but matter it does;
@shaolin95
@shaolin95 2 года назад
@@landiepete again a "normal" monoprice cable will measure as good as any of those snake oil cables so stop trying to justify that nonsense.
@iamsometimes6712
@iamsometimes6712 2 года назад
@@landiepete Sure. And the Maxwell equations will also tell you at which frequency the dielectric properties will contribute notably or barely. And this Frequency is... ? Please enlighten us.
@MrsZambezi
@MrsZambezi 2 года назад
@@landiepete All of that is irrelevant at audio frequencies. All that matters is resistance.
@markblevins946
@markblevins946 Год назад
I came across your video series recently and have truly enjoyed your approach to hifi audio. Which may be one area of discussion that carries more opinions than it is possible to count. My background is electronics and I too learned the water pipe model reference as a way to understand the dynamics of current and voltage within a circuit. LOL, I think it all started with how the instructor approached his discussion of Ohm's Law. However, what came soon thereafter was a discussion of the physical properties of wire and current flow (electron vs hole flow anyone?) and two distinct properties stuck with me over all of my years (now 65 of them) and those are that a wire is a component, just as a capacitor, resistor, inductor and that all wire has properties of these three values. Those values become more important with the length of the wire and/or the frequency of the signal being carried by the wire. The deep physics behind your simply elegant explanation lives and breaths. My mind immediately went back to two things that I have always considered with cabling. 1) Strong tight physical connections are critical to performance and safety in high current applications. 2) Surface volume of your cable directly influences (for better or worse) its ability to carry a signal unadulterated. Or at least to the extent possible or necessary. Your in house made cables address both of those core parameters along with the separation of the +/- cables to avoid environmental contamination. Quality of the materials is in my opinion a given, considering your customer base and your personal expectations. Listening to your discussions has brought me back to my wayward youth where I gladly traded nearly all of my cash in the pursuit of my audio Holy Grail. Best of continued success.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Thanks Mark for your good wishes, thanks snd excellent contribution to the topic.
@listeningto8371
@listeningto8371 Год назад
I take it at 2), surface volume is a typo and you meant surface area.
@markblevins946
@markblevins946 Год назад
@@listeningto8371 yes indeed, area is the correct term. I was enjoying a nice pour of my favorite bourbon when listening to the discussion and had liquid on my mind.
@crusoerob8550
@crusoerob8550 Год назад
Sir, why use such a small dia driver in the Sibelius. You must have used a very good quality driver, surely it could have benefitted with a 10 inch driver compared to the microscopic one. It can't be bigger than six inches?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Thank you for your question. Please do not take this the wrong way, but many people confuse the amount of bass with the diameter of a drive cone. In fact, in many ways, the opposite is true. Our loudspeakers are flat at 38hz, which is very low. The bass is fast, accurate, plentyfull and deep. The smaller drive cone does not distort during excursion and can deliver treble, way over 16khz. When we record bass drums or acoustic basses, we use very small diameter microphones. Hopefully one day you will hear a pair and see what we have achieved. Another point of interest can be that many subwoofers use small diameter drive cones… and to excellent effect. Even though we don’t think the Sibelius needs one.
@crusoerob8550
@crusoerob8550 Год назад
@@PearlAcoustics OK, hopefully.
@bng2679
@bng2679 3 года назад
For 40 years of being a audiophile, all I know the best cable is the best match between the connected machine, type of music and the taste of the listener. It was never about price.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Totally aligned. If it works, it works.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
I will tell you a secret... in our listening room we have had quite a few different rca cables, from very expensive (gifts from people wanting reviews to very cheap ones, including ones we bought ourselves, and the ones I like the most are ‘Amazon Basics’ they are very smooth sounding and yet still detailed. I think they were less than 10EUR a pair
@jerrypartington3650
@jerrypartington3650 2 года назад
The type of music cannot possibly affect a cables performance, or any other component in an audio system. The choice of music is subjective and purely in the mind of the listener. A good component or system is by definition capable of achieving accurate reproduction, regardless of the input signal. If a component or system is perceived as being musically inaccurate, it will be with all and any music it reproduces. Subjectively a listener may tolerate this inaccuracy or even be unaware of it, nevertheless the system or component cannot possibly alter it's performance depending on the nature of the signal. A music signal has only three components; Frequency, amplitude and phase, which have absolute values at any given moment, if we imagine an audio system as a measurement device, the potential for error given that these values are constantly changing is clearly enormous.
@ChristopherWoods
@ChristopherWoods Год назад
@@jerrypartington3650 The electrical properties of the conductors may impart some analogue change to the electrical properties of the voltage signal representing the audio frequencies, but I'd in my experience it would seem that at the distances and gauges we're talking about they would be so small as to be undiscernible. If there is a more noticeable change depending on cabling used, something else is going on.
@perkarlsson1217
@perkarlsson1217 5 месяцев назад
would have been nice to see some measurements 0,15 and 30 degrees on the sibelius since it´s not frequencu corrected so how does it take care of the baffle step.
@MrSplit57
@MrSplit57 3 года назад
I’m really enjoing your video. Just a right amount of audiophiliac enthusiasm, competence in what you are talking about and simplicity!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Thank you! Very kind
@LaserPrinterBW
@LaserPrinterBW Год назад
I understand everything. What i dont understand is the ridiculous prices. Their is no explanation for them. Its just grabbing money from people who already invested a lot of money for their system. A 1.5 meter 1000 Euro cable is without the "money grabbing" worth around 20-40 Euro. Just the truth
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
Hi, I totally get your point. Indeed some cables are priced extremely high. However, I would like to point out that our cables are nowhere near that price. Our loudspeaker cables, for 3 metres are 345EUR, and that still is expensive, I know but they are made up of four very thick copper, multi strand independent cables, each with expensive expandable (lockable) connectors on each end, and they are hand assembled here in Belgium. if you take all considerations into account they work out at 28,75 EUR per meter + taxes and postage.
@LaserPrinterBW
@LaserPrinterBW Год назад
@@PearlAcoustics I saw that your prices are more realistic. And i appreciate that you don’t advertise with all the Vodoo. Unfortunately 3m is way to long for my needs.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
@@LaserPrinterBW no problem, all our cables are hand made. If you need something shorter our team will happily help you. I can’t guarantee it will be much cheaper though 😉. Enjoy the music
@joyoffilming9500
@joyoffilming9500 3 года назад
Quite nice video. Love to see that you do not need those ‚multiply woven, multi layer, oxygene-free, silver, blabla,...“ cables. I drive my speakers from a legendary Tannoy TA600 power amp via thick PA-cables from Klotz, connected to the amp via Speakon connectors - all perfect!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 3 года назад
Absolutely! Good enough 😉
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 месяцев назад
Since you are so concerned about cables,why do you not use pure gold?!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 месяцев назад
Hi, see my previous reply. But in addition. In the video you will see that I advocate multi-strand copper. Hope this helps?
@lyntedrockley7295
@lyntedrockley7295 Год назад
They definitely do make a difference. Without them I struggle to hear anything. I suppose one way of eliminating the effects of conductance and resistance of loudspeaker cables is to use a wireless link.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Год назад
😉👍
@GeirRssaak
@GeirRssaak 10 месяцев назад
A good thick copper cable will do the job! If not, gold is the best leader!
@mikecoffee100
@mikecoffee100 Месяц назад
Glad I found this site and Subscribed
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Месяц назад
Welcome. Enjoy what we have
@ReferenceFidelityComponents
@ReferenceFidelityComponents 3 года назад
People forget that a speaker cable is simply part of an overall circuit comprising amp output stage, speaker cable and drive unit (bass is the most demanding load). All you need to know to select the right cable is speaker minimum impedance, crossover design...dcr of bass inductor, damping factor, amp output impedance and damping factor. The latter depends on output impedance and crossover losses. Any cable so capacitative or inductive that it acts as a filter should be avoided. High inductance will roll off the hf and high capacitance can affect amp stability if poorly designed. Most people hearing big differences between cables are really hearing the results of either poorly matched amp and speakers or instability of the amp. Cable geometry in voicecoils matters as it affects motor efficiency hence t&s parameters but this is simply not true of speaker cable...please dont conflate hearing differences in speaker cables with mythical magical electron scale effects...all cable if similar lcr properties will effect the exact same system response...fact. Far too much tosh spoken by people with little to no real understanding of the subject. I've been a loudspeaker engineer for many years and have grown really weary of hearing sales marketing nonsense spoken or printed about cables.
@SuperMiloBass
@SuperMiloBass 3 года назад
a speaker cable is simply an electrical conductor - that's it. Crossover design has nothing to do with it, that's after the cable has delivered the signal.
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