While listening to this, I thought of myself. What do I get angry about. I don't really get angry at people. So I switched anger for frustration and cold shoulder/Ignoring others for my own happiness. So I was looking into my brain and heart for moments of my selfishness I guess. I realized, customers. Customers at my retail Job. I ALWAYS have (on a good day) a neutral if not aggravated (bad day) to the point of almost daring a customer to over react so I can throw them out of the building. And I thought about the customers. There is one 70 or so year old fine lady, but she ALWAYS seems mad or aggressive towards me. I almost think it is one of the triggers for me to go into MY state. I need to Agape her. And I just realized this very moment that PROBABLY the reason she always seems angry at me, is because she sees the contempt in me. So I will try tomorrow to form a conversation, I'm sure she has wonderful tales and wisdom to share. Thank you Tim Mackie.
Every time I listen to him, I realize how I have not really understood the Bible. His teaching reveals if you are really committed to the teachings of Christ
@@flashoftruth in humility….if you’re focused on the numbers of denominations and asking which *one* out of the *thousands* (as you correctly illuminate) “understands” Christs teachings best then you’ve already missed it-and I would encourage you to just go read the Gospels and you’ll get your answer The original word later appropriated got a particular theology (catholic/καθολικός katholikos) actually means- “universal” or “whole”…it’s the body of Christ….not a denomination. You will find those who understand His teachings inside and outside of the church…as the Gospels clearly show us you will find that those who recognize Him as Son of God FIRST will often be found outside of those who consider themselves to within the family of God (see first person to recognize Christ -: Son of God in Marks Gospel)..follow Jesus with all of your heart and I promise you that you’ll quickly come to understand who it is and who it is not who knows Christ - Prayers for happy seeking-God Bless
@@davidinstronghold Ah, so there can be Christians from across several denominations that "recognize him" even though many of their core beliefs and values differ?
@@flashoftruth absolutely- healthy disagreement on small issues don’t take away from the core tenants of faith (ie “by this they will know you are my disciples, that you have love for one another”- for one example
Tim, Of all the dozens of teachings of yours I’ve heard, this was hands down the BEST! Of all the sermons I’ve heard on Corinthians 13, this was the most impactful, but down to earth, that I’ve heard. (even if you took us out into orbit for a bit 😉) . I know you stopped preaching to be a prof, but please consider coming back, at least periodically. The world needs you, not just theology students in Portland! (Ok, there’s my black hole for the day!) May God bless you & your family.
This is the passage from Paul was what I read at my father's funeral when I was young. It absolutely speaks to the love of the Father and in this case my father on Earth as well. I dont have kids myself but love when Tim discusses the challenges of a father trying to raise miniature drunken cavemen. It reminds me of the beauty of a father's love. Thank you for all of it.
Ive been listening to this particular sermon on my Echo ( Alexa) through tune in. Was having trouble explaining tin my 14-year-old teen why I love her. She's suffering parent alienation and doesn't trust my love. And Tim's definition hit the nail on the head. Because loving teens at this age is tough people.
Keep pushing I was the exact same way to my mom. I had some terrible moments with her and she continuously showered me with love. Sometimes it had to be tough love! But I love her sooo much and understand all she’s done and appreciate what she’s had to sacrifice for us. God Bless 💛
Yes! Stay the course. My daughter and I went through some tough times (and still do from time to time). Just listen for God and trust that He is working especially when you dont see or feel it. He loves you and you daughter and will always see you through. Also there are likely people who read your comment and are praying for you even though they may not say it😊🙏🏽
I love you Tim, you and your friends like Micheal Heiser & N.T.Wroght. have raught me so much, and I already knew much. I studied scripture daily for at least 2 to 4 hrs everyday for 5- 6 yrs. Just kept reading the major prophets until they started making more and more sense, once in a while I would listen to John MacArthur, boy he is the last great preacher of his kind. But what a teachet!. Would love to meet you someday. Please pray devil has been after me my whole life cause he knows i know the truth.paul
18:58 what love is. 25:27 why I won't get too tired, resent or revert. black holes versus living cells. love from self-regard, human desire, versus inspired love from the source of life. powerful but unstoppably destructive, vs powerful and unstoppably life giving. I have life from a living source, not densely dead weight.
Working in food service in a local church’s diner gives me lots of chances to exercise these love actions. I don’t always do well, but sometimes there comes a beautiful moment where it all clicks. That is Heaven. That is the Garden.
Sometimes Tim, Your hour-long presentations become at least 2 hours long as I rewind to hear your discourse repeated so I can write it for my own reference. The parallels you make ,in this case, to the knowledge of science we have to date, are divine (or maybe divinely inspired? lol). Thank you!
I think this the first video I have actually seen musicians! Seen lots of instruments of course. I love the way that music is a response to the preaching and that the preaching generally demands a response. He is a special man.
so deep, so true... this black hole is me... for last 10 days i go thru exactly what Tim mentioned... dreaming how different i should have behave to make my loved ones loved and nurtured. this is so deep, thanks Tim... but Thanks you Jesus for giving your life for my sin and hoping for redemption
This is not to say that if you are abused in a relationship, you need to stay in that relationship with that person. This live also applies to ourselves, in the way of not letting others take away what gifts God has given us.
This was beautifully balanced and I'd like to echo much of this sermon in an upcoming gathering....How do I seek permission or request even a transcript? Thank you
Some very privileged people are just narcissistic and not victims of anything other than themselves. I'm gonna save my pity party for those harmed by them AND PRAY THEY STOP TORTURING OTHERS.
Very convicting. I was given a lot of advice before getting married. The only one I followed was for me to read 1 Corinthian 13 whenever I got upset with Ken and ask myself if I am loving him or myself.
For even more expansion on the subject of agape, I would highly recommend Kierkegaard’s Works of Love. It can be a little dense and seem repetitive (much like John the Apostle), but it’s a life-changer that every Christian should read at least once.
Tim thanks God for what you do, your words have really helped me and even if I speak spanish and I don't have a good english I perfectly understand what you say. I would like to know what do you think about the saturday and the law. I know we can not follow the law and thats why we have grace and mercy but still we should try to follow the law and keep God's commitments. still I would like to know what you think. Thank you God bless you
The title of this video led me to think Tim’s sermon was going to be along the lines of Austin Fischer’s book, Young, Restless, No Longer Reformed. The idea that God’s Love not being like a black hole is a central point in the book. Good sermon anyways.
The depreciation of the defining value over time by culture has twisted the true meaning of love. The original definition Webster gave was to have such a devotion towards someone, some cause or something that one would be willing to die; devoted affection; parental care; devotion towards. Now if you google love you are told it is an intense feeling towards something; great interest or pleasure in something. The concept of self sacrifice & action is entirely removed. This has now become a terminology defined as being wrapped up in being on the receiving end, what pleasure & feelings are given by an outside source. As of today, that is what children, & adults are finding as the definition if they google love. Dear God, please bless us all to keep our faithful books with true definitions, teachings & foundational principles, in Jesus name
Here's how it goes in my house: when my husband and I are being selfish, it goes this way: Him: I want it my way. Me: I want it my way. When we are both thinking of the other one instead of our own selves, it goes this way: Him: Let's do it your way. Me: Let's do it your way. We seem to waste time arguing either way! LOL.
I feel like Tim is on point with alot of what he says but one video I watched with him. He thought it was okay to watch the tv show breaking bad because it is a good character study. This alarms me but he is one of the best preachers ive ever heard.
Well, you could make that argument about a lot of classic literature, including the Bible. How many stories have adultery, even incest or murder and yet we place the Bible on a pedestal as a holy book. While it is, it is full of character studies of people with major flaws, and the results of their flaws. That is one thing the Bible does highlight - major character flaws never result in good things happening - apart from God's intervention. That said, if that show isn't your taste (and it is not mine), don't watch it. But his comment is valid.
DanIscool09 sure, not for entertainment of course. But he had plenty of exposure to the dark side of people hence his teaching on so many topics related to the wickedness in men's hearts. He talked about " this perverse generation" he knew it well. He didn't hide his mind from it because it was dirty like so many Christians do they pretend evil doesn't exist with a head in the spiritual sand mentality. I think that is what Tim was getting at.
I think this is the most humble interaction/rebuttals of RU-vid comments I’ve ever seen... way to go @DanIscool09 and @waterman308 !!!! Way to rep Jesus even though you initially disagreed. I wish more of the world got to see this kind of humility and honoring of one another in our interactions as Jesus followers:)👍🏽👏🏾😊
Can you do a session on what is means to be “In Christ”. How can you get there? How do you KNOW if you’re IN CHRIST? Help us KNOW... Short of Jesus showing up in your bedroom....
Love means "i don't want you to be with other guys but I'm gonna try to have sex with anyone willing and pray you don't find out and cease to be my arm candy cause people will think I'm lame".
I love his teachings. I am curious if he does actually still celebrate easter as resurrection of Yashua? We should all know that Passover is the correct day. I apologise if I come off as a know it all. I'm far from that, but I do that. Is there a way I can email him to have this discussion?
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