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Low Head Turbine Testing - Third Attempt 

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Комментарии : 68   
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA 2 года назад
The 90 degree bend makes no sense to me, unless the turbine is at the bottom of a large drop in height. That 90 degree bend is a huge restriction in speed from all that mass, while the whole system needs the speed from the mass of the water to be functional. And it looks as if such a small fan, or blade, or turbine, or whatever it is called, is not nearly sufficient enough to produce enough torque in order to produce any usable energy. But it was well worth the try though. Have you guys ever considered to use an impeller from a water jet or water scooter, or whatever it is called? Those are designed to move large amounts of water real fast, so I assume that a good flow of water can make an impeller move real fast with decent torque as well. It doesn't have to be a new one. Big thumbs up for doing these experiments, I like to watch them.
@AngryArmadillo
@AngryArmadillo 2 года назад
Your thumbnail game is improving rapidly
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
Thank You. I wish I had a clear shot of it though, I was too distracted to think about a thumbnail picture.
@PatrickBaptist
@PatrickBaptist 2 дня назад
@14:37 Well the rock should have stuck to that spinning object according to the doctrine of gravity anyways, damn I guess there isn't any gravity after all and you just proved it lol.
@OpenSourceLowTech
@OpenSourceLowTech 2 года назад
Interesting to see how a scroll case type input will compare with the straight tube design. You will indeed get more of a square power increase with additional head, for the reasons you say; that doubling that also doubles the flow. Those load tester units are kinda cool, I've been using a washing soda variable liquid rheostat and two multimeters, which does essentially exactly the same thing but this is a bit more self contained. Looking them up on eBay tho they seem to be mains powered, how did you manage that by that river?
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
They are 12vdc powered, I just used my small Energizer power station. The DC ports were shutting off after a timeout because I must not have been drawing enough load so that's why I had it plugged into the AC port.
@falessan
@falessan 2 года назад
I've seen a video that has a cage around the entryway up to above the surface of the water to keep fish from going through the turbines. They used a tennis ball inside the cage on the surface that breaks the vortex. Unfortunately, i can't find the video again, but it's a good idea.
@bookbandit
@bookbandit 2 года назад
That video was filmed I think in the Middle East👀👍👍
@falessan
@falessan 2 года назад
I found the video again, and it's from the land to house channel here on yt. Here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V82SVeVXKcA.html
@EcceJack
@EcceJack 2 года назад
@@falessan yeah, I was about yo say that I know Seth (of Land to House) has mentioned that exact setup. I couldn't quite remember if I'd seen one too, mind. Seems like a good idea here, IF you wanted it to be a long-term installation
@kapegede
@kapegede 2 года назад
17:57 It's a DMPPT, a digital* maximum power point tracking. 😂 *Digitus is latin and means "finger".
@linesteppr
@linesteppr Месяц назад
Pretty sure you need a closed pipe with both ends immersed to get the max siphon effect. Just drop a tennis ball near the inlet and it will get sucked into and disrupt the vortex to keep air out. Also, tape the joints that aren't glued to exclude air from entering.
@rossiih1
@rossiih1 2 года назад
Congrats on the Baby! Awesome video as always
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
Thank You.
@atluxity
@atluxity 2 года назад
Congrats on the baby! Thank you for mentioning the Patreon, thats not something you do often enough. :D
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
Sure thing! Your contributions help with buying instrumentation.
@creatorsilat22
@creatorsilat22 2 года назад
Your job is amazing my friend
@smashandburn1
@smashandburn1 2 года назад
Congrats on the baby
@rl3898
@rl3898 2 года назад
I would guess the open tee and the loose joint onto the supply pipe, admit air on the inlet and the vertical outpipe being in the water is an obstruction to the free exhaust of the used water.
@post-MV
@post-MV Месяц назад
You should put the generator on the top of the suction pipe, it will be many times more powerful
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 2 года назад
Lol!! Just enough to compete with my blackberry USB charger adapter... But who cares!!! Free power!
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
On this channel we deal only with USB-levels of POWER!
@kodavidkoko
@kodavidkoko 2 года назад
Hi Joe, maybe you could try using a funnel at the beginning of the tube?
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
Yes a funnel would help at higher flow rates, the restricted flow due to the turbine isn't enough to benefit from a funnel.
@driverjamescopeland
@driverjamescopeland 5 месяцев назад
Word of advice to your friend... "low head" translates "large format". You're simply not going to make anything even remotely efficient with a 3" or 8" impeller for a low head application. You don't have the pressure required to make up for the density losses of something that small. As your flow closes on the axis, efficiency decreases dramatically. This is why pelton wheels focus on applying the force at the outermost cross-section. With low-head/low-pressure, you don't have the prerequisite pressure to drive such a small cross-section, so you need a design with more working volume. An archimedes screw type impeller is easy to fabricate... but the efficiency is still considerably low. On the flip side, they're low maintenance and can handle a broad range of flow, which is beneficial for these small streams that are subject to huge variations with runoff. As far as homebrew options go... there's no shame in taking a design note from the big guys. Check out GovDeals or some other place where you can find municipal slavage sales, and rob the impeller from a large scale centrifugal pump. Either way... messing around with turbocharger parts for low head applications is a huge waste of time and resources. Even the largest truck turbos have a throat less than 100mm. To find anything larger, you'd have to get into supremely expensive marine chargers... where even trashed salvage units can easily cost upwards of 6 or $7,000 just for the housing.
@laurentoutan9922
@laurentoutan9922 2 года назад
Pour stopper le vortex, j ai vu un système d un. Gars tout bête, il a fait un cylindre en grillage a l entrée tu tuyau d évacuation, qui depace le niveau d eau, puis a mis une ou 2 balles en plastique, dès qu'un vortex s amorçait, la balle était attirée par celui-ci, et stoppait le vortex comme vous l avez fait avec votre main 😉
@scorpio6587
@scorpio6587 2 года назад
I caught those subtle jokes. Good times. Looking forward to the next video with three times as much suck!
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
when dealing with creek water and pipes things can get dirty.
@CoolMusicToMyEars
@CoolMusicToMyEars 5 месяцев назад
I'm looking at a river, to drive power you need to have a wheel with the water flowing underneath then if its wide enough & doesn't pic up rubbish I feel its the best to drive power, you probably need to consider narrowing the water flow to the wheel, anything like that is definitely not a play area for children because of the size of the wheel & power
@zinahe
@zinahe 2 года назад
Here is one for user engagement. Thanks? 😊
@chrisquigley1865
@chrisquigley1865 Год назад
Do u sell the plastic kaplan turbines..??
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 2 года назад
observations. the only thing that does not suck in this turbine design is the pma.
@PKMartin
@PKMartin 2 года назад
New camera/lens? Your piece to camera at the start/end has some 👌 depth of field, I think your last video had it as well.
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
Same camera and lens (a stock EOS M6 mk1) but a different arrangement.
@Logan_Woody
@Logan_Woody 2 года назад
Try a wire produce rack from an old fridge and a tennis ball to kill the vortex
@SpencerLAPower
@SpencerLAPower 2 года назад
Sounds like the bearings are Rusty
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
Yeah they are! Still free spinning though
@ajmalmaad4497
@ajmalmaad4497 2 года назад
Can you randomly tell me how much power in watts can i produce with a height of 20 feet and flow rate is 30 gallons per minute. The distance is long and i have planned to use a petrol generator's dynamo and make a pelton turbine for it.
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
About 50W assuming 50% efficiency.
@ajmalmaad4497
@ajmalmaad4497 2 года назад
@@JoeMalovich i was thinking of 1000 watts.
@Pixelplanet5
@Pixelplanet5 2 года назад
@@ajmalmaad4497 just google hydro electric power calculator and you can play around with this by yourself. for 1000W you would need a flow rate of 10 gallons per second at 20 feet or given your flow rate you would need a 360 feet drop
@ajmalmaad4497
@ajmalmaad4497 2 года назад
@@Pixelplanet5 so i checked the flow rate and it is lucky 8 gallons a second. I thought one gallon contans 10 litres but its 3.7 litres in one gallon.
@randylowe7457
@randylowe7457 Год назад
On a low head system, where you have a large capacity of water, and not much head pressure, why not insert a unpowered tessla turbine above the generator. Tessla turbines will power themselves given the flow from the water. And increase volume and pressure.
@larryalexander4833
@larryalexander4833 2 года назад
775 is in my area
@greggv8
@greggv8 2 года назад
Next thing to do is fix the leaks in the blower housing. Looks like there's too much gap between the turbine blades and the outlet hole. For max efficiency in impeller pumps (like for PWCs) they run as tight of tolerances as possible. One company got that down to one or two thousandths of an inch with a plastic wear ring sandwiched between the pump housing halves.
@travishodges5179
@travishodges5179 2 года назад
With the t open at the bottom you are not getting the benefit of siphon effect, which is most of your power
@laurentoutan9922
@laurentoutan9922 2 года назад
5 volt 1ampere, c'est là que l'on se rend compte. Que même un tel consomme tant
@colinhamer6506
@colinhamer6506 2 года назад
why don't you try the super high tech vortex killer 🎾or⚽️balls
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
Didn't think of it at the time but I know what you are talking about.
@siggy1984
@siggy1984 4 месяца назад
I have kids I love kids but I think his mom is calling him lol
@vulcor51
@vulcor51 2 года назад
Wouldn't be a risk of having cavitation downstream the turbine with such a high outflow pipe?
@jeremycrisp4488
@jeremycrisp4488 11 месяцев назад
And then the rock dropped into the pipe shattered a few of the turbine fins.
@colinhamer6506
@colinhamer6506 2 года назад
the style of turbine you have been playing with for some time now is never going to give you the results you are looking for there is allwase going to be a lot of energy lost with any turbine try changing your thoughts to kineticenergy
@8osWeReTheBest
@8osWeReTheBest 2 года назад
Wonderful video of a child playing around ac voltage IN WATER!!! SOOOOOOOOOO SMART!!!!
@creatorsilat22
@creatorsilat22 2 года назад
Hello joe malovich i new friend from indonesia
@thomasvnl
@thomasvnl 2 года назад
Well that bucket certainly was a stupid mistake. Skip to 7:48 right after the bucket gets stuck to avoid wasting your time.
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 2 года назад
My channel is more about the process than the results.
@gerrys6265
@gerrys6265 6 месяцев назад
Thank the good lord for 'fast forward'.....
@ao2528
@ao2528 2 года назад
Keep that kid away from what you are doing, please, and let us concentrate more efficiently.
@sam-rs8wg
@sam-rs8wg 2 года назад
You are the kind of guy who would yell at a kid having fun on a roller coaster. The kid is learning and engaged with his dad and experimenting.
@neloglass
@neloglass 2 года назад
@@sam-rs8wg That kid could get hurt by getting his fingers on those rotating parts. It is one thing for the kid to watch and another thing to constantly getting in the way.
@ao2528
@ao2528 2 года назад
@@sam-rs8wg Yes I am, kid can learn other places, not at YT bothering watchers.
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 4 месяца назад
Isn't it dangerous to have that kid there? He seems very hyper and will touch anything. Never have kids around high voltage and turbines. He even touched the turbine.
@jdvdm1930
@jdvdm1930 2 года назад
Get a job......
@Mike-kr5dn
@Mike-kr5dn 2 года назад
Is this a joke?
@coniferous3132
@coniferous3132 2 года назад
Yes, because hydro power isn't something useful or in demand. This is the essence of engineering and science.
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