Low Rider ST vs Harley Davidson Bagger. Which would you pick? 

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Bought my first Harley in January, Lowrider ST. Then traded it in March for the Road Glide ST. I've noticed many things: 1. LRST is not well made by comparison with the RGST (fitment, use of fasteners, bags) 2. RGST is more refined, polished, and far more comfortable (for the rider over 6 feet tall) 3. LRST headlight is weak and scary at night in dark canyons without streetlights 4. RGST dual headlights are superior in the same canyon setting 5. LRST bags can easily fall off if not securely fastened (listen for the click and check the red indicators) 6. RGST bags will NEVER fall off, being fastened securely with two threaded connectors from inside each bag (plus supported by a frame rail) 7. LRST is better suited to the rider who's no taller than 5'10" and even then the windshield does NOT stop buffeting 8. RGST is better suited to the tall rider (as I already stated) and also needs a taller windshield if you want a less turbulent ride 9. LRST is 150 pounds lighter and with the 117 motor will outperform the RGST 10. RGST with identical motor is NOT tuned the same, and pulls differently, more smoothly (seat of the pants analysis) 11. LRST is cramped, even with changes to risers and adding forward controls (the salesman could have told me I was too tall to be comfortable on the LRST) 12. RGST flows better ergonomically, no cramping, and just more comfortable for the taller rider (shorter riders can luxuriate even more) Finally, I spent thousands of extra dollars on the LRST trying to make it into an RGST. My bad. If I'd know in January what I know in March, I'd have gone straight for the Road Glide. It looks better, feels better, is better made with respect to fasteners and fit and finish, as it should be since it's $10k more, plus entertainment, gauges, etc. It's a "real" motorcycle in my opinion. I'd be hard pressed to even want to ride Lowrider today. It was a great introduction to cruiser style motorcycles... coming from Suzuki Hayabusas and Kawasaki ZX-14s the Lowrider was a small step on the stairs to the bigger bike. Your opinion will vary, certainly. To each his or her own. For me... I've outlined my thoughts above. And yes, THE BAGS ON THE LRST ARE NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME. Harley take note. You really blew that one. Get some Leather Pros and replace the OEM bags... before you lose one after a hard pull.

I concur, you are nuts. I would go with the SGS. No contest especially for longer trips. The LRST is a bar hopper in my humble opinion.

Road a cruiser/softail for decades. Switched to a Street Glide last October. Loved the music and navigation, but couldn't get used to the extra 150lbs up front. Traded it in for the Low Rider ST. WOW! Might spring for the sound system next year....but still WOW.

My hubby and I love your channel and appreciate your content! I own both a Road Glide and the low rider ST and they are both wonderful. Have to say for a petite 5'4 lady, even with mods made on both bikes, I do prefer the ST. Lighter, faster, mid-controls and sportier. I do love the infotainment on the 22 road glide and rides super comfy as long as there's no stop and go traffic. Both are great bikes, but the low rider ST is more versatile for me on any road or traffic conditions. With a reach seat and bars, new pegs and shifter, and a mounted Garmin for GPS/audio/calls, you can transform the ST into a baby road glide. Keep up the great videos and safe travels!

You can get aftermarket hand controls … things you might not even dreamed about… GDS Ram mounts and get a GDS docking station for an iPad and handlebar controller.. navigate your iPad .. then put heritage classic floorboards on it… yes they bolt right up_ brake lever and shifter also.. now.. you have everything the bagger has

One of the best comparison videos I've seen. Great job...Traded my Road Glide in on an El Diablo.

Your pick at the end is surprising. Coming from baggers and having the opportunity to ride the ST, the main challenge I had with the Low Rider ST was the mid control pegs. If I would buy one, I'd have to get forward controls put onto it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the bikes. Ride safe Ty. 👊👍🇺🇸

I was just looking at the low rider ST. Glad you posted this . I was at the Grand Rapids, Michigan Harley Shop just south of Hudsonville, Michigan. Really loved that bike in vivid Black. I think you convinced me to go back and get it. Thanks from USA Michigan!

Good video. They're different weapons. If I'm on a long trip, my Road Glide is the choice. But for around town and shorter trips I'll take my LRST.

First, I am impressed with how you jumped from one bike to the other well. I love my Road Glide and don't think I could ever change from this touring bike. I love your low rider, but at 5' 11", I feel it will be to short for me, and I will feel cramped. I also love the GPS on my bike and how it will get me hole from wherever I am at the time. I always say ride what you love and love what you ride. Ride Safe

I love my Street Glide, but I am small so the ST looked inviting. However, they made it taller, so the weight difference may not give me any advantage. The company doesn't claim that a tour pak fits, but I have seen some installed. They need to include that if they want people to tour with it. Nothing like a tour pak. Waterproof, lockable, clean and neat. I do want to try out an ST when they become more available.

I've been riding H-D fifty-two years. Everything from choppers in the 70's to Ultra Classics in 2000's. Something was always wrong with the bells and whistles.I'm thinking my next bike will be Lowrider ST with forward controls, floorboards and a tour pak.

I had a 2019 Road glide and was one of the best Harley's I ever had for long trips , also had a 2021 Street glide and I like the looks and how close you have the infotainment compared with the road glide but was the worst over 60mph, a lot buffering and I didn't feel comfortable with the bike, I sold both bikes and I bought the 2022 lowrider ST and I'm the happiest guy on earth, light bike, fast, great looks and comfortable (no like the road glide but really good ) I just need to get the stereo to finally have the perfect Harley for me .

love my 05.U.C. been riding since 70's. when I turn the front wheel the batwing turns. not having the fairing turn freaks me out. love the trunk space, cruise, stero. my wife loves the padded back. she feels safe, has fallen asleep numerous times.

I traded in my 2022 ultra limited for the ST.. few months ago.. so much happier with the riding I do.

Hi from NZ. Just a comment on fitting floorboards to the ST. I just went from a sport glide to the ST. Floorboards were lifechanging on the SG but even with fully adjustable 6 position foot boards it just did not work for me with the st. high mid peg position. Another problem is they are right where the side/jiffy stand is, making it almost impossible to operate. If you are fitting forward controls then go for it. Love the ST though.

Either bike I'd be proud to own , but i agree 👍 I'd definitely take the ST but change the bars & also put floor boards in & two gage instruments on dash & add speaker system & probably slightly jack up the rear suspension, & add a slightly higher wind screen that's clear & not black 😝 Steve from Bundaberg Australia 🇭🇲🕺🍹

i knew you would choose the ST.... so far the best ride from HD... i have one!!! in my case from 883 upgrading to the ST is amazing !!

I dream of owning these bikes.. I will have one in time for sure. I'd probably go low riderST at this point in my life. I aspire to be like you man. Well done 👍 For the record I like both street and road glide cvo models. The new 2023 unveiling blew me away!

Great job comparing and contrasting these two bikes.I'm turned off by the bare bones cockpit of the LRST and the cheesy digital instrumention.I saw an LRST in the showroom in that tobacco fade color which was awesome imo.I wish they would offer a choice of chrome for those of us who aren't fans of the blacked out look.The LRST is EXPENSIVE,for what it is.I'd step up to the road glide for that reason,and get all the things lacking on the LRST.Thanks again for your presentation.Great info.👍👍

I would like to see some reviews of the ST after some long distance touring .

I have a similar stable of bikes: '14 Ultra Limited & '18 Sport Glide. For those who may not know it, the Sport Glide is a Softail (as is the Low Rider ST), but with a small removable "batwing like" fairing & hard side bags. Anyway: the Sport Glide came with forward mounted pegs, which at only 5'8" tall I didn't like. But as it is a Softail frame, I investigated the possibility & ultimately replaced the pegs & the peg mounting brackets with Fatboy mounts & Heritage floorboards. Way different ride & I really like it. If possible on a Low Rider, you would also have to switch out the shifter & rear brake controls, but it may be worth investigating.

At my age I’ll take the ST and in two more years I’ll step up the comfort to the glide. Great job on this Ty!

I bought a street bob 114 when I got my riding license. I asked to ride street glide special at HD Lisbon dealership. Let's see how it goes. I like the features of that bagger, but sadly I don't have the financial means to buy it

I never thought I would care anything about having a stereo on a motorcycle, but not that I do I am spoiled and my wife likes listening to music while we ride. I also really like being able to have the trunk. Plenty of storage for traveling and my wife feels very comfortable with it. So I guess I would have to go with a Street Glide with a touring pack. (Mainly because my wife likes to ride with me now.)

St growing on me but have to go street glide

I have the 2023 lowrider st and 2020 Road Glide st both with 475 SS cams love the lower rider st easy to maneuver Handel like a sport bike and fast .

Im on a RK so caint comment on either. Ty it was a very nice presentation and summary of the diferences and the perks each has to offer. Love your content ✨️

ST for me

Definitely the bagger , love my 2019 CVO S/G with the 131 !

Hi great channel very nice mounted ;)

My simple choice was both luckily enough. 2014 street glide for those long highway trips and good cruises with the lady. Then there is the terror 2022 lowrider st. Two different bikes and rides.

ST thats foo show!

Very nice Ty I have a 2005 Kawasaki Vulcan Nomad 1600 and just bought a 2015 Honda Stateline 1300. I love them both it doesn’t matter what you ride just ride.😎

I have a 21 Low Rider S and a 03 Road King Classic. Id go with a bagger. Im more of a touring rider. Both are big bore. 95ci and 128ci

I have a Road Glide CVO 2019 on which I have ridden 40’000 KMS. I recently did a trip to Greece on my 2021 Pan America, about 6500 KMS in 2 weeks. I have to concur, I am in the process of selling my CVO for an ST because my go to bike has become the PA. Maybe the weight, maybe the high KMS, but I have to concur with you. For me it has become too much of an « occasion » to ride the CVO and as you see I ride a lot. (132000 KMS since 2017). For me though I would not even consider the ST if it did not have the 117.

great review! haven’t seen this comparo yet, awesome video

I would go for a Lowrider S, I am not a fan of a fairing. A screen is useful, but I’d rather have a detachable one

U aren’t crazy. Actually a lot of my friends are reverting back to softails from tourers. It’s simply a better choice.

Low rider ST all day for the simple fact that i'm a weekend warrior/ fair weather rider lol.

As far as Street Glides,, the faring is way better on the 2013 and below! I love my 2013 faring, the newer SG’s have a smaller and lower set faring,, I don’t like them!

I got my FXLRST after having my Electra glide for 2 years.. I changed my controls to Forward controls. Don't tell anyone - but I like my Low Rider ST. more than my Electra glide...👍🏻 😆 LOL 👍🏻

I've never ridden the LR ST but based on what I know I'd prefer the bagger.

I'll stick with a Road King. For me, best all around bike. Ride safe

*Amazing. Big lk frd 👍 Thank you so much for share*

Street Glide would be my pick ... it's got floorboards, better dashboard, easy to see dials and front fender has better coverage of the front wheel. But not the Street Glide Special or the Street Glide CVO ... the new Street Glide ST 117 of course (in grey).

Great comparison. Wish the low rider had forwards and a more comfortable position. What towns are you riding through? Absolutely beautiful scenery.

Great vid 👍 I am very excited 2 get my new low rider st this month 😎 Greetings from Munich Germany 🇩🇪🥨🍺

Idono, I need to try out the Low Rider ST. I really like it. But my SGS is so awesome.

You should always have more than one motorcycle, flat tire, dead battery etc, you’re never down. Think about it.

I'm thinking the LRST if i can get the seat about 4 inches later and make it a proper sport tourer ..

I see this video is 4 months old! I have an 2016 rdkg and a 2021 pan am. I just purchased a 2023 lrdrst. 3 totally different bikes. I've also been riding since 1965! I just have this need for speed. All 3 are quite fast. Stage 4 on my rdkg. 150 hp on the pan am. The st with 117 stock is over 100hp. And 120 lbs lighter than my king! Similar torque numbers as the pan am. Yes go to forward controls on the st and they make mini boards that work great. Put a 2 to 1 S+S exhaust and raise the bars to 12" and you'll be in heaven. The costs difference alone on a new cvo is ridiculous. And do you really need all the electric distractions? I looked at the new road glide trike cvos and with everything it's appeoach 60 grand! But thats just the way things are today. EVO pick ups are at 90 thousand! I have 8000 lb diesel and they start at 72 thousand. Where will it end?

The big deal about the Low Rider ST is the fairing. (the handling) Its a motorcycle, and a well handling machine; everyone agrees. The Low Rider ST fairing has wind-tunnel science behind it. Its goofy looking. But, don't let that fool you. That goofy looking fairing deflects the wind (as Ty says, inside a bubble) so that you are sitting pretty, completely free from buffeting; its amazing, and you have to try it to believe it. As Ty points out, the Street Glide CVO is too fucking heavy; its just not fun. My Heritage Springer Softail (800+ pounds) is as heavy a bike as I'll ever want. Although the tech on the CVO is cool, it pales in comparison to the tech on the Sportster S. And, I want my music in my helmet. The lack of tech on the Low Rider ST is unforgiveable; period, and Harley-Davidson should be ashamed. The Low Rider ST should have the same tech as the Sportster S... in my opinion, they should have put the Revolution Max platform in it also. But, hey, that little itty bitty 2.1 inch digital calculator display (ca. 1970) they call a dash is simply embarrassing. But, if you want a motorcycle that gets out there and handles well, the Low Rider ST is for you. It is a joy to ride, a real pleasure. marcus

Totally agree!!!!!

I will be that guy. If the lowe rider at had symmetrical bags, I wouldn’t consider any other Harley.

Cvo street glide Road glide any day!

Road Glide FTW! lol The Low rider st just doesn't do it for me, especially with those lop sided bags

7k miles 1.5 years? I've only seen a few of your shorts, so not sure where live... I live in Seattle...cold and Rainy drizzle 175 days a year I still put 30k down ( I do tour though) in two years . 7k is a few months for northwest riders. Rain or shine.

I still haven’t heard anything negative about the ST

I like my tunes too much, gotta be the bagger for me, Ty!

ST

Great video. LRST it is!

Just bought one waiting for its delivery heads up anyone who wants one and an audio system, they're on a 18 week backorder

Thanks for this comparison. I'm really struggling between the LRST and RGST. The weight is really noticeable and most of my riding is weekend warrior stuff in the mountains, with an occasional trip a couple times a year. It makes the most sense and doesn't break the bank. I just love the look and feel of the Road Glide going down the road though. With Cycle World's leak about the 2024 CVO Street Glide today I may just go with the LRST for now and keep my eye out for the 2024 bagger ST models. Hoping they get the 122, VVT, USD forks, and radial mounted brakes. That will be a sweet bagger!

Hi new owner low rider st and first bike Harley Davidson. I love this bike . I drove the street glide. my buddies Let me drive their bikes. there is no comparison between the two bikes. talking in stock form. Thx

Streetglide

Interesting video! You have rich man conversations😃

How is it versus the other one when you pack up and go on vacation with them is the ST seller good choice . Can you pack just about as much on the ST as you can the bagger ? Take care . 😎👍

Which one is more comfortable seat for long distance

I ride a scooter. Those Harley's are way too expensive for my budget.

Well I stick with my Roadglide

The lowrider st is like a Fanny pack bike, the street glide is like a man purse and the road glide is one of those metro sexual backpacks for men 🎉

Lowrider st…. Over street glide all day… Because it’s lighter…. Put forward controls on it…

Hello, are you interested in testing products about Harley handguards?

Ive got both. Lol

You shouldn't have let your CVO hear that!

I don't think you're nuts...lol...well...not too far gone...lol. I'd love to hear WHY you made this choice.

Lol. Get s RKS. The real deal

Neither. FXLRS for me

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A dependable bike like a Honda is what I would pick lol