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This RBP Clip from episode 145 coming Monday, Christian Thibaudeau discusses the differences between low and high volume training.
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@FouadAbiad
@FouadAbiad 2 года назад
A short clip from a great podcast I did with Christian Thibaudeau. The full version will be up Monday!
@decentbutcanbenasty
@decentbutcanbenasty 2 года назад
omg fouad you teaser , i been waitin for the whole thing ever since you brought it up in the last chat .. hey jokes aside .. i know its work for you but thanks for sharing your knowledge cheers bruh
@cyclist5000
@cyclist5000 2 года назад
Awesome! Do you know around what time on Monday?
@sam_moreee
@sam_moreee 2 года назад
Bro you did it 🤩 I wrote to you on IG months ago to reach out to Christian ! I am so hyped for the full podcast 🙌🏼
@GuiltyBystander8
@GuiltyBystander8 2 года назад
Looking forward to it, thanks.
@darrenrandy7358
@darrenrandy7358 2 года назад
Awesome so far! Looking forward to Monday! Enjoy Tampa Pro!
@Tenthirty5
@Tenthirty5 2 года назад
This is exactly what John taught, and his programming is a testament to that. Written in his instructions for so many sets is when you start to slow down, that’s when the growth happens. John’s RPE system is based on how much force you produce. As you slow down or the form breaks down, the RPE increases. That’s why so many of his programs include pyramid style training, and intensity techniques. The Mountain Dog was onto something. Without getting overly technical, his system allows you to achieve progressive overload, mechanical tension and training to failure without keeping a log. When it starts to get tough, is when the work starts. I would love to see more Fouad training videos where you and Hosstile athletes do Mountain Dog training!
@TorAndreKongelf
@TorAndreKongelf 2 года назад
As someone who is obsessed with Johns training programs, I really loved your reply here. I also think he is really on to something I have just not been able to express it in that way.
@Morte_Deus
@Morte_Deus 2 года назад
John who?
@TorAndreKongelf
@TorAndreKongelf 2 года назад
@@Morte_Deus Meadows
@Morte_Deus
@Morte_Deus 2 года назад
@@TorAndreKongelf Fuck, i should have known that...thank you...
@Tenthirty5
@Tenthirty5 Год назад
@@TorAndreKongelf are you going through any of his programs at the moment? I’m revisiting colossus, and am going to start avalanche once I’m through.
@JibbH_
@JibbH_ 2 года назад
I was waiting for so long for this Podcast (can’t wait to listen the full video)! Christian is so passionate and knowledgable about training.
@dakotasonney2142
@dakotasonney2142 2 года назад
Holy shit! Give me more!!! I love the talks with bodybuilders and the bro chats with the boys. But this is what I really wanna hear, experts breaking down science! Thanks Fouad
@RobDosRamos
@RobDosRamos 2 года назад
Now your just teasing Fouad!!! 🤣 Been waiting for this video
@codymenesini5102
@codymenesini5102 2 года назад
I used to train higher volume, 4 sets at a good weight and leave a couple reps in the tank but I recently switched to a top set focused style and my body is responding a lot better. Imo training style really just depends on what your body likes more.
@kyndred-ry5mm
@kyndred-ry5mm 2 года назад
your right i did try low volume ,but hight volume (heavy weights )did best for me
@Giddleor
@Giddleor 2 года назад
Same here! Switched up and now I have less nagging injuries and shoulder pain as well. I love it
@bufflegend
@bufflegend 2 года назад
same. My strength started exploding when I dropped my volume. I also recover better.
@78matt
@78matt 2 года назад
I think what you like most and are able to push yourself the most is what works the best.
@jiachengxu3395
@jiachengxu3395 2 года назад
Probably because you decreased fatigue with less junk volume and recover better between workouts. Then for each subsequent workout you have a fresher/more recovered nervous system which allows for more motor unit recruitment and more fibers experiencing tension. Chris Beardsley and Paul Carter are very good at explaining how mechanical tension and nervous system fatigue governs hypertrophy
@kfcmusicfitness
@kfcmusicfitness 2 года назад
Love when there’s talk on training the most. The most important commonality.
@batotman1
@batotman1 2 года назад
I like his stuff from T Nation. He’s a smart guy. I like cycling those programs.
@peterbonks2973
@peterbonks2973 2 года назад
Have followed TIB army since T-Nation Days. Huge influence in my training.
@46repsol69
@46repsol69 2 года назад
He's one of my fav personal trainers on social media. Can't wait for this one
@bobsingh6985
@bobsingh6985 2 года назад
Didn't even watch it yet! And I already know it's going to be a good podcast💯
@emanuelrodriguez6333
@emanuelrodriguez6333 2 года назад
Excited to learn as much as I can thank you Foaud for these Informative videos. I like it when all the guys can offer different perspectives on training
@yashara2283
@yashara2283 2 года назад
I used to love Christian’s videos and articles on t-nation back in the day. I learned so much from him. Awesome to see him on the pod.
@zxtenn
@zxtenn 2 года назад
Coach Christian has such an amazing way of explaining things, i really enjoy his vids
@joenrs
@joenrs 2 года назад
Looking forward for this interview. Christian is one of the best coaches in the world. I was lucky enough to get to one of his teachings class. The way he explains his immense knowledge makes it easy to understand and apply in the gym. Great pick Fouad💪🏼
@robertwilliams8887
@robertwilliams8887 2 года назад
What I think I get from this short clip - go all the way to failure, recruit all the fibers, then without dropping the weight hold maximal contraction at peak tension in a static hold as long as possible, so each fiber is fully recruited and experiences maximal tension, maybe even fighting it all the way to true eccentric failure when gravity inevitably lowers all the way against your will. Then go cry a little and grow.
@mariofeelfresh
@mariofeelfresh 2 года назад
Can’t wait to see the whole podcast on this one! Fascinating to me!!!
@wally7559
@wally7559 2 года назад
Can’t wait for the full podcast. It will be gold 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@NTsklwjsnejx
@NTsklwjsnejx 2 года назад
Excited for this full podcast. Have been using either John Meadows or Christian's programs for the last several years.
@jiviteshsharma1021
@jiviteshsharma1021 2 года назад
I would personally like to think Fouad did this for me as I just asked him a question about training in the DM's, This was awesome
@bigguylittleshirt1292
@bigguylittleshirt1292 2 года назад
I was so intrigued that I forgot it was a short clip... freaking Fouad, blue balled me 🤣
@MikefromAlabama
@MikefromAlabama 2 года назад
Love the shorter videos that get to the meat of the matter
@rosariodimaio927
@rosariodimaio927 2 года назад
Christian is a cool dude love this guy tanks for bringing him over, ciao Fouad 💯
@mattpitcher7015
@mattpitcher7015 2 года назад
Great question, great answer! I've finally come to the conclusion, for me, is volume is key. Drop the weight and focus on "feel" (squeeze biceps, deep deep knee bend on all the squat variations, squeeze the shoulders together on rows, etc ... now, I'm doing with as heavy as I can go but once I starting having to swing the weight or bounce it, I drop the weight .... all the while trying to add weight over time to get stronger etc).
@cross123ish
@cross123ish 2 года назад
Great Video, you give us all sides of training, the best supplements, great clothing, entertainment, knowledge and lots of laughs…the Best Bodybuilding Podcast.
@baburdilshat587
@baburdilshat587 2 года назад
Just great information! Everyone has their training style and not every training style will work well to everyone
@miamidolphinsfan
@miamidolphinsfan 2 года назад
Thanks Fouad & Coach Thibedeaux...thought provoking for sure.
@Madevilz
@Madevilz 2 года назад
Quality info, cant wait for the full podcast
@orbarak123
@orbarak123 2 года назад
Thank you for the video Fouad ! Love the training topic
@Disneymagic24
@Disneymagic24 2 года назад
i like a combination of working on strength on main compound lifts like squat, bench, deadlift, and military press. and then do hypertrophy stuff after that
@nboss968
@nboss968 8 месяцев назад
Foud has a training style video on that he talks about pyramiding the heavy compound lifts and straight sets for burning out isolation lifts.
@C-24-Brandan
@C-24-Brandan 2 года назад
I like his response to the question, low volume for me never did anything really always have gotten better results doing the high volume type of work outs.
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 2 года назад
I seriously believe ppl are different,but for me it was the opposite,I wasn't really low volume more moderate but focused on heavier weight less volume for a set of 6-10 reps max and got better results,and this was after years of lifting
@C-24-Brandan
@C-24-Brandan 2 года назад
@@willthomas7666 yeah it's all different for each person based on their goals, what they're training for & how they enjoy training so it doesn't become a issue with actually going to get a workout in
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 2 года назад
@@C-24-Brandan yeah I agree.ive seen guys that were huge who trained lower weight more volume and it def. Worked for them,I did it for years and got to a certain point,and then when I did less volume more weight I grew
@C-24-Brandan
@C-24-Brandan 2 года назад
@@willthomas7666 yah there is no right or wrong answer it's individual specific for the most part
@nboss968
@nboss968 8 месяцев назад
The guys on MindPump podcast preach that the best stimulus is whatever your body is not used to, so if you usually train low volume/high intensity switching to high volume will produce greatest short term gains and vice versa.
@BrnRich
@BrnRich 2 года назад
I legit hit play, went back to my work, and right when he got to explaining the explosive stuff, I hear Fouad "THANK FOR WATCHING...", then proceeded to reread the title and be disappointed. Monday cardio session is going to be very informative now.
@javierramirez2437
@javierramirez2437 2 года назад
Great Info!!! Thank You 🙏🏼 Love this Platform 👊🏻🤘🏻
@aberose7405
@aberose7405 2 года назад
I personally like it better in a longer format video
@euuey_euu
@euuey_euu 2 года назад
Fouad I’m loosing gains having to wait until Monday…
@clarkcioccolatino1701
@clarkcioccolatino1701 2 года назад
Thibaudeau has the best knowledge on training
@smeegychee2583
@smeegychee2583 2 года назад
Kinda wish this wasn't clipped up so we could just watch it all the way through
@jessefranckowiak
@jessefranckowiak 2 года назад
Great interview
@cyclist5000
@cyclist5000 2 года назад
Awesome! Do you know around what time Monday?
@JesusGarcia-Digem
@JesusGarcia-Digem 8 месяцев назад
High intensity training all the way!
@BigBoss....
@BigBoss.... 2 года назад
I prefer low volume style due to the time saved and energy saved during a cut.
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 2 года назад
I do to,I literally think all the extra volume is almost pointless,I've tried both methods and found lower volume heavier weight more beneficial
@rajviakaur9604
@rajviakaur9604 Год назад
💯 loved this!
@extremecouponing91
@extremecouponing91 2 года назад
Soooo much science behind volume
@ericjames7819
@ericjames7819 Год назад
This is a matter of right vs wrong. Or, at least better or worse. But you can't find out which is better by debating. Each person should try different forms of training and track their progress. By doing that they can find out what is better. And don't rely on supposed research to give you an answer. And don't make assumptions such as the more advanced you get the more sets you need to do.
@maxilinieum91
@maxilinieum91 2 года назад
Love the pod! Any chance to get big mike on the pod?
@WTFBazda
@WTFBazda 2 года назад
Man, I haven't heard from CT since the T-Nation haydays circa 2009, but I still use his "perfect rep" formula for every workout. It's crazy how as science progresses more and more "bro science" from the golden age greats turns out to be absolutely true; they all knew "when the set gets hard, those are the reps that count."
@RPEpsilon-lc4vm
@RPEpsilon-lc4vm 2 года назад
What formula?
@WTFBazda
@WTFBazda 2 года назад
@@RPEpsilon-lc4vm Basically it started with a philosophy, or maybe more of a thought experiment about how people put a ton of thought and effort into picking their workouts, exercises, set/rep scheme, pre/peri/post nutrition, diet, and so forth, but when it came to the reps themselves they just grip it and rip it. His idea was to focus on each individual rep and try to maximize every part of every rep. Focusing on a slow, controlled eccentric motion, followed by a smooth but immediate transition, and an explosive concentric portion. That's all pretty much common knowledge, and common practice these days among even semi-serious lifters, except for the transition part, which is where I think he really wanted to focus. Everybody knows about eccentric/concentric and how each worked, but his theory was that there was one last place to squeeze out some optimization in the transition between the two. Honestly I don't remember what his reasoning was as far as the mechanics of the muscle and fiber activation and what have you, but the idea was to flip from the stretch to the contraction as immediately as possible. I'm sure I'm doing a terrible job explaining it, but was intriguing, and it's a method I still use virtually every workout. I wonder if they have it archived on T-Nation, or if that site even exists anymore, lol
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 2 года назад
From my experience.i looked my biggest and best with a moderate volume approach,focusing on being as strong as I could for a set of 6-10reps,when I did higher volume less weight I looked smaller.
@Jes1919
@Jes1919 2 года назад
I am 19 years old and have been training for almost 2 years now. I realized low volume is best for me. I go all out on 1 or 2 sets per exercises. I can’t give it my all and recover if I do high volume. A lot would be garbage sets.
@JakeEwing50
@JakeEwing50 2 года назад
I’ve found that volume and slower repetitions is best for me purely because I have less of a chance to get injured. I can use less weight and fatigue my muscles.
@nboss968
@nboss968 8 месяцев назад
Injury risk is a huge factor because the most important thing for growth is consistent progressive loading over long periods of time. I tend to have joints that get banged up so protecting my joints is a top priority. But I know some guys whose joints never get sore.
@davidpenwell3432
@davidpenwell3432 Год назад
Add enough weight where if you put full force/explosiveness into the lift it still moves slower bc its heavier. This keeps your reps lower in the 6-8 rep range.. you rest a little longer between sets. Then gradually over time slightly decrease your rest periods while increasing your sets. That will allow you to get more work done in roughly the same amount of time while neurologically being able to recover between heavy sets by gradually reducing rest periods. Then as you cut down and energy is lacking you have to increase your rep range a little towards a cut or show bc youre weaker by that point.
@neosanking1388
@neosanking1388 2 года назад
Great clip.. thanks. Extreme Effort in Gym Lifting Weights for Hypertrophy will Build Muscle.. Add in Proper Nutrition, Supps and time off in Between workouts.. You will Grow.. people in the gym who Doesnt put in Effort and follow up with proper nutrition and diet and supps. will not see any growth.
@bradfordmcdermott2063
@bradfordmcdermott2063 4 месяца назад
Mike Mentzer's heavy duty HIT and doriqns is best any more than the necessary 1 working set till failure is overtraining. Volume is genetics response on steroids due to recovery ability from the steroids. But from my experience even using steroids doing volume like arnold got me no where compared to genetic anomallys like a sam sulek or some pros who blow up from anything. Warms are necessary of course but most importantly is the intensity of contraction and last rep till failure. Cadence 2 seconds concentric and 1 second static flex hold and 4 seconds eccentric 6-10 reps till failure legs would be12-15 reps.
@phatbastard2026
@phatbastard2026 2 года назад
LOL U just confused the world even more! This debate will never end N this clip just proved just about any method would work! The one KEY Point Christian made that everyone should take to heart. N I have been training for 35 years n At age 55 still going strong is this. If it FITS UR PERSONALITY AND MOTIVATES YOUR TRAINING! That was the most powerful statement in this clip and have been preaching that for years. If U don't enjoy it Ur not gonna do it. N U certainly wont put the effort into it either. There truly is NO bad method they can all work n work fairly well. There's pro's n con's to everything If it fits U and U enjoy it. That's your method run with it. PS Fouad Congrats on your success with this site U are a natural. Ur never one sided N U always have something of value to offer the community. Great job man! U and the Rat pack always bring Humor to my training
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 2 года назад
Anyway you could get Mike isreatel on he's really good
@extremecouponing91
@extremecouponing91 2 года назад
As you progress
@JackTse
@JackTse 2 года назад
these are cool. going to the gym with a smile on your face is the bottom line. now to do better in a show, the smile is optional but wouldn't anybody want to smile?
@moshpitjunkie8122
@moshpitjunkie8122 2 года назад
Longer rest periods 100% work for muscle growth. Noticed with me/ clients and friends. Too fast of training hinders growth abd progression in the gym
@holdenmerritt
@holdenmerritt 2 года назад
I’m only here bc of the advertisement from the last podcast
@extremecouponing91
@extremecouponing91 2 года назад
kind of wish that Christian would talked about the misconception of {feeling the burn}😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ChristianMac-f9y
@ChristianMac-f9y 3 месяца назад
The reality is the research DOESNT show statistical difference between so many variables people argue about. Those telling you research supports their arguement often denounce results that aren’t statistically significant if they oppose their view then hang their hat on research that favours their view but isn’t statistically sig. This idea of training the stretch reflex is bonkers - why you would want to stress a protective reflex is assumption it has some kind of translation to performance is silly. You have to train hard - as there’s so much arguement about how close to failure is relevant just chase failure and on days you aren’t feeling 100% leave a few reps in reserve knowing you’ll be fine Match rest to your body’s response. You’ll learn over time and this fluctuates Move with control - doesn’t have to be super slow just ensure you feel the resistance through the full movement of the set As for machines vs free weights. Don’t be afraid to use machines and props/wedges to increase stability safety and ability to load a movement. The function craze is over, it’s a waste of your life and has no relevance period
@nicolausloasari5553
@nicolausloasari5553 2 года назад
Thibs !!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@CryptoSteve007
@CryptoSteve007 2 года назад
I don't count sets, reps, weight or rest periods. I always train super intense, balls to the wall for 45-60 minutes, 5 days a week. Always with good form. I'll leave the gym a lather of sweat. Eat 6 times a day and go to bed by 9pm. Works for me. Peace.
@kevbeau1295
@kevbeau1295 2 года назад
This. Hard work is the most important part of the journey.
@Morte_Deus
@Morte_Deus 2 года назад
OLD SCHOOL!!!! Hell yea!
@Biggad14412
@Biggad14412 2 года назад
@fouad what if we have a 6 day good workout plan trying to gain mass, but have a stomach pug ..if I’m not taking in a lot of calories intake.. is that hurting me or helping?
@SameerKhan-qu3lx
@SameerKhan-qu3lx 2 года назад
Nice
@hanzyj7021
@hanzyj7021 2 года назад
If I could do PO without my body snapping in half I would. But I can’t so I do high volume
@MIG842
@MIG842 2 года назад
I train, sleep, and eat to failure
@kevbeau1295
@kevbeau1295 2 года назад
What about fucking to failure?
@J.R.__
@J.R.__ 2 года назад
So basically do what works for you with maximal intensity 🙏🏾
@mariyantodorov913
@mariyantodorov913 2 года назад
Dennis James is top !
@arkasarkar2459
@arkasarkar2459 2 года назад
Keep changing from high to low reps to keep ur body confused
@FirstChoiceMechanical-ck9ch
@FirstChoiceMechanical-ck9ch 2 месяца назад
What a flip flopper. He’s on record recently with Joe defranco saying the exact opposite. Not to mention all his articles on “volume being the the number one enemy to the natural trainee”
@extremecouponing91
@extremecouponing91 2 года назад
Bfr training
@nemiw4429
@nemiw4429 2 года назад
Theres a big difference between natty and not. As natty you are better of destroying the muscle with heavy weight, each muscle twice a week. As enhanced you also want to destroy the muscle, but more important increase the bloodflow to the muscle, so each steroid can do its work on the muscle all the time, so the steroid molecules are close to the muscle cell 24/7.
@trenaceandblackmetal5621
@trenaceandblackmetal5621 2 года назад
Literally what are you even talking about?
@danielstacey7785
@danielstacey7785 2 года назад
that's... not how they work...
@nemiw4429
@nemiw4429 2 года назад
I have read plenty of med literature. My cousin is a doctor and we often chat about steroids, peds etc. I know exactly what Iam speaking of. Its not my fault you dont understand it. As a natty there is no "constant flow of steroids to your muscle". So all you need to to is lift frequently, to do actual damage to the muscle and also of course to give him a signal to grow. When using peds your body is full of steroids, so you want the steroid molecules (test, dbol, var, npp, eq, whatever) to circulate as much arround the muscle as possible so they contantly attach to your androgen receptores in the muscle.
@danielstacey7785
@danielstacey7785 2 года назад
@@nemiw4429 First, you don't "destroy" the muscle. You use mechanical tension to create a adaptive response due to the stress on the muscle tissue. Whether natty or not, that is the same. Secondly, muscle wise, nutrients are transported via glycogen, which also helps carry branch chain amino acids broken down from proteins. Nitric oxide is produced in the muscle during workouts for many benefits, one of them being to uptake the glycogen/energy during a workout & therefore protein uptake. Again this is the same whether natty or not. The increased testosterone from taking steroids (whichever one it is) then increases the nitric oxide produced, which allows more of the protein you consumed (and then broken down) to be transported into the muscle, during and post-workout. There's more that happens ofc with neuro-transmitters & DNA signalling but keeping it simple. Thirdly, everything is broken down in your body and processed. You don't have steroids flowing around your body like that, attaching to things. HOWEVER, you do have androgen receptors throughout the body, which if you look into will see is not the same as what you imply.
@nemiw4429
@nemiw4429 2 года назад
@@danielstacey7785 do you think Im gona battle it out with smart words now to appear intelligent in a yt comment. Nobody cares about the details. They are here to train, not to learn for med school. Edit: Of course you have steroids in your blood after they are broken down from the ester.
@extremecouponing91
@extremecouponing91 2 года назад
8 rep all the way to 30
@ryandegroot22
@ryandegroot22 2 года назад
Challenging the muscle is what works. Doesn’t really matter how you get there. Do all the styles and you’re covered. This new idea of "junk volume" is kinda crazy to me. No set is a wasted set if it provides a challenge. You could argue that higher volume is superior simply because it causes a lot more blood to be pushed into the muscles.
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