Lucifer vs. Satan: Who Really Leads the 7 Sins of Hell!? 

Can’t wait to see how hellvua boss deals with satan in the series

“Looks like you could use some help, from the big boss of Hell himself” Impcut: *Doubt*

3:16 Asmodeus blushes gold, implying he has Gold blood. It could be just artistic depiction but it's weird they didn't give him more yellowish green

Lucifer referred himself as the Boss of Hell, in his song. This is true, but Satan and the other sins definitely still bow down to Lucifer. His angelic power allows him to be the ruler and keeps the other sins from rising against him, especially since he is the most powerful sin!

Even with my own thoughts on when Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss takes place, I can easily believe that Lucifer being a mediator for Heaven and Hell makes since, especially when you consider hellborns being pardoned from the exterminations. He probably can prevent an all-out war between Heaven and Hell right now because he knows how both sides work.

Is just realized all the deadly sin rings make a rainbow together 💀💀💀😭😭😭

I swear if Lucifer doesn’t appear there just gonna make a excuse of why he isn’t present but if he does it would be a interesting crossover

I like the idea that all the seven sins were once originally really powerful angels that decided to leave heaven in pursuit of forming their own kingdom and chasing after their own obsessions/vices

Ozzie isn't bad, he's just drawn that way.

Something to point out, the demon's of Helluva boss always say things "Satan D*mnit" or "Oh dear Satan" rather than using Lucifer in such a tense. Could mean that Satan rules more of Hell than he should and Lucifer is just kinda there

If I had to guess, Satan might be the first Hellborn created from pure hatred.

Haven't watched the vid yet but my theory is luci created the sins as the population of hell grew, so they are like siblings to each other with Satan being the oldest and the leader of the sins (and I think we all know luci's backseat parenting style). Creation order- satan-bel-lev-ozzy-mam-bee

I think vivzie said in a tweet Satan and Leviathan are the more traditional leaders sooo

In truth, I prefer Beelzebub to Lucifer, but Asmodeus is a more pleasant character than Mammon. Asmodeus' charisma and muscular personality allure me, while Beelzebub's empathy and sophistication surprises me.

What’s weird is that the most powerful sins seem to rule over the least powerful hellborn (minus Lucifer as my current theory is that the natives of the pride ring are the ars goetia) Satan rules imps and Bee rules hellhounds.

There's a misconception that Lucifer's authority is delegated by Heaven, but it seems more like Lucifer's authority was established by a show of his natural powers as a fallen Seraphim.

I think Satan would’ve taken the lead while Luci was all in his hidden corner of his world. Satan wouldn’t be the leader in terms of power but he would’ve stepped up, in some way. Either that or they all do their own thing.

Lucifer DEFINITELY leads the Seven Deadly Sins. He has Angelic Powers, to keep Satan himself in check.

From what I heard from Vivzie Satan and Leviathan are both massive traditionalists

1:32 you’re forgetting leviathan, a name also associated with Satan and member of the ORIGINAL unholy trinity.

1:34 unholy trinity? Faith reference?

I feel like Ausmodeus, and Lucifer, would walk into a bar not knowing eachother at all, and just leave best friends!😊 I REALLY want to see Lucifer and Ausmodeus interact with eachother, in sinsmas! Even though it probably won't happen! :(((

Great video.😊

judging by Vivien's statements, the strongest sins are: Lucifer, Satan and Leviathan

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Courtroom Ep is most definitely the one titled Sinsmass so... it's the Christmas episode. The Twink Elsa, Andrealphus is attending so I definitely think Sinsmass is the ep that the Trial will be happening. And because Andrealphus is there, I think he's gonna be trying to publicly shame Stolas for all the damage he's done to his sister.

Guess we'll have to wait & see. also to give you a heads up. The symbols with the seven sins names & Stolas name are actually called Sigil's, not symbols or glyph's.

When I saw the title I was like “LUCIFER IS THE KING OF HELL 0:17 wow…..as some one that has the personality of stolas i don’t take that much offence but wow….

I’m thinking that for all intents and purposes Lucifer will be the ruler of the sinners while Satan is the ruler of the hellborn. This will allow for a greater split between Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel because Lucifer will only need to appear in Hazbin while Satan and the other sins only appear in Helluva. Lore-wise I think what would make most sense is if Satan were the original ruler of Hell before Lucifer was exiled there and either Lucifer overpowered him or the two tacitly share power. I’m thinking overall it would make some sense for the sins to either all be hellborn or a mix of hellborn and fallen. I could see Bee and Satan being hellborn with both originally ruling over hellhounds and imps respectively, while Azmodius and Mammon I could see being fallen angels. The show seems to be implying the Goetia like Stolas are fallen, due to them only being killed by angelic weapons and since Asmodius design fits in best with the Goetia he would likewise be a fallen Angel. It would also explain why the taboo of Stolas and other Goetia sleeping with Imps doesn’t seem to apply to Bee dating a hellhound, a fallen and an imp would be mixing holy and infernal blood while Bee and hellhounds would both be infernal.

If anyone is going to be a fallen angel, it will be either one of the freaking overlords I mean, could you imagine Carmela‘s best friend being a fallen angel zestJill that would be hilarious or Alistair come on, but personal opinion at least the second or third in command will be a fallen angel. The others will probably be generated through their sin, but have their characteristics based on their personalities like Osmus. He’s a very kind person and is very loving towards his partner and once consent, which shows that he’s more like a inverse of some parts of his sin of lust whereas Valentino just saying that makes me feel sick is the perfect form of the darkest parts of lust

Luci is FROM HEAVEN. It makes sense that he does have stricter moral code

I don’t think Ozzie has those motives, to me it feels like he was like that at the start of hell but has grown out of it, even going more towards love rather than lust, he just had to keep the lust persona for the citizens of hell, the Succubi just keep doing what they are doing because Ozzie doesn’t care enough to stop them. At least in my opinion.

My theory is that Lucifer gave humans free will with good intention, but seeing humans fall into hell and how they behave as sinners disillusioned Lucifer. So, he probably isn’t as attached to the plans of world domination but isn’t doing much to stop them for this reason. Since he isn’t interfering with the plan, Satan is most likely on neutral terms with Lucifer and possibly even respects him because of his strength.

I like to view the sins as the original 6 demons that gave rise to all the other hellborn. Comparable to the diamonds from Steven Universe with Lucifer being equivalent to White Diamond in status as “the original one” from which all the other demons manifested as a result of his actions. (Lucifer=Charlie and Sinners, Satan=Imps, Bee=Hellhounds, Mammon=Clown Demons, Ozzie=Succubi, Leviathan=Sea Demons and Loan Sharks, Belohagor=Candle-heads.)

My theory is Hazbin Hotel and HeeluvaBoss are officially separate IPs and will NEVER have a official crossover. So who cares about Lucifer? He does not exist in HUB universe.

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Hey! Can you do an indie animation video on the Dungeon Flippers pilot that released recently? It’s really well done both concept and animation wise.

I cam see some of the sins being former angels while other ( mammon ) are straight up demons

Feel like Satan may have a general or sheriff personality and maybe some anger issues I did think he'd basically always be in his alternate form because the other demons shift when angry

Who cares? They aren't gonna be in the same room unless WE write a working story.

Today I think it's time we talked about satan

I am voting for Lucifer, He may be an adorable bumbling bee dad, but he kicks more ass then Millie so I think he definitely leads the troop more then Satan

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I find it troubling that you keep using the term corruption without defining what it means. Or clartifying that corruption can be a force for good, if the origonal intent was evil. I think some bias might be leaking through.

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Do hellborns get exterminated too? What if they're also uprising?

The evils of Luci was all around me

This is what I find important what is Lucifer going to be doing with the other sins on sinsmas

its lucifer done

Wait. I always thought Satan AND Lucifer was the same! They're not?!

I actually personally believe Satan is a fallen Angel in Helluva, and as a Christian myself in Bible its sometimes believed Satan fell at the beginning of Heaven, whereas Lucifer fell at the beginning of Eden lol

I notes somthing. Stop me if I an wrong. But at the party in last hellofa boss episode I saw ever king of demon exsep envy fish demons. What is the hes been with everything from hellhounds to royalty but no envy demons..

isn't it weird that Satan and Lucifer are different characters where as in the bible those are 2 names for the same character. (Also I just noticed, if you look at the scene with Mamon if you look at the table by him you see a small skateboard and a figit spinner)

Can you ask them on how hell as a whole looks like

I believe both shows are in separate universes. Firstly, Satan is the adversary, or the one to oppose god but is never mentioned being demonic. In Christianity Satan was once the angel Lucifer so they are one in the same. Beelzebub is sometimes referred to as the devil but other sources cite him as the devil's lieutenant and a fallen Seraphim that once served under the Archangel Gabriel and was worshipped as the Canaanite god Baal. In the Book of Kings he was worshipped by the Philistines in the city of Ekron as Baʿal zəvuv. The strange titles of Satan also question the relation of Beelzebub to him as I believe Satan has been called the father of lies or prince of lies which spoken quickly can sound like father of flys or prince of flys, with flies being Beelzebub's thing.

I wonder if the fact that hells plans on earth arent bothered by heaven will be revealed to be on purpose, a common criticism of god is why worship a deity that lets horrible things happen, sera seems like the type of leader who would put the quality of winners entering heaven above ethics and would rather let temptation exist so only the "true" winners, who have temptation present and still get in rather than a winner who was shielded from temptation but wouldve sinned if given the opportunity. Because even though we've seen that no one seems to know exactly what gets you into heaven, sera seems to think she knows and might be using that information to make calculated choices about how heaven interferes with the earth. Or shes subconsciously punishing lucifer for giving humans free will by letting that free will damn them to hell and shes gonna do hardly anything to prevent it

In my opinion Lucifer is king of hell in name only we never see him governing hell only Lilith so I think since he was in big depression for several years maybe Santa has become the dirigent of the 6 other circles

I wish to ask the creator of the helluva boss and hazbin hotel

Lucifer leads the 7 deadly sins as he is one of them and the strongest being in hell, and the king who rules over them

I bet Satan is the second most powerful sin behind Lucifer.

Huh. I always thought Lucifer and Satan were supposed to be the same.

I think lucifers stronger but he doesn’t care enough to become the leader of the seven deadly sins.

For the Point that heaven has a Focus on the Sinners and not on the demons. The Idea in head is that the Sinners have more Potential to rise in Power compare to the Demons. Imps, hellhounds and co a much weaker than let's say the Overlords and besides of skill we have never seen that one of the other races get's more powerful by his own. The stronger Demons a far less in number, you have only 72 Goetias plus there children, 7 deadly sins plus there Kids and a few Demons like Lilith, that's not so much. By the Sinners on the other Hand you have as many as there are humans on earth over the ages, and it looks like they all can rise in Power. For the Lucifer/Satan thing i would think that Lucifer is the King of hell, the ruler of Demonkind, but Lucifer is depresst so it is possible that Satan Rules for him bit to the Point that Lucifer is ready to take this Position again. ✌️🐰

“Today I think it’s time we talk about satan” that’s one way of starting a video

I’d like to assume the relationship with Lucifer and Satan is neutral. If Satan really embodies Wrath, maybe he has a more soft and respectful personality when Lucifer is around. If Satan is the Second in Command of Lucifer, he acts legitimately loyal to him due to the title of General of Hell.

I know it's just me but I wanna see someone animate a skit of Satan and lucifer argue exactly from the smiling friends.

I think Lucifer was more busy with making 🦆leading the seven deadly of sins. I do hope we see Lucifer taking his responsibilities as the ruler of hell more seriously in S2. He his now closer with his daughter and more involved with the goal to redeem the sinners, so this could start some character development.

I like to think that Satan is Lucifers right hand man and is sort of the unofficial leader of the sins at least when Lucifer isn't around.

Big theory:Millie used to work for Satan but is chastised for being too weak compared to his other soldiers and the scene with him saying "You are a disgrace!" is referring to her.

I believe that in Hazbin after Luci’s fall he used the seven concepts of sins (sloth, envy, lust, greed, gluttony, wrath, and pride) to separate Hell in seven sections stalked on top of each other he called rings each one representing one of the seven sins, after that he then used six of the sins (sloth, envy, lust, greed, gluttony, and wrath) to create six powerful demonic beings each embodying one of said sin with the purpose of ruling over the rings that represent their respective sin on Luci’s behalf while using the concept of pride the root of all sin to empower himself to establish his rule over the other sins and all of Hell

I’d say Satan acts as the judge of Hell, Lucifer knows he’s far too emotional to truly handle civil matters so that’s what Satan is there for he’s cold and callus but fair and juste making a decision based on the information and not how feels

I would argue that the Sins are definitely not fallen angels, or at least not all part of Lucifer's followers if they were. Because Ozzie says he's "known Mammon since the beginning of hell". If they were fallen angels fighting for the same cause, surely he would have known Mammon longer, in heaven?

Lucifer may be the leader of Hell, but Satan may be the one who truly understands it.

I think Lucifer is more of a figurehead who doesn't really rule hell and might not be completely aware of the political situation in hell. I think Lilith is more of a ruler than Lucifer and after Lilith disappeared, Satan probably token her place as the new ruler.

I like to see them as arch rivals that will constantly argue over who's the better leader.

If Lucifer makes a fight With Satan in HELLUVA Boss , It would be a pretty good occasion to see Lucifer real full Power

I think part of the reason we are not getting a huge overlap with systems established in HH and HB is due to the shows having to remain so separate. Like you are right, heaven is doing exterminations because they do not want hell getting out of line but are doing virtually nothing from demons hopping to earth to reek havoc? I see this as the shows while supposedly taking place in the same universe due to probably some legal framework can't really acknowledge the lore building of each other. So HB can't really bring up the angels or exorcists much, and HH only seems to act like Pentagram City is the the near some total of hell. Like realistically heaven should be more worried what the other rings are doing, the sinners are just existing, the princes and other demons are actively influencing earth.

I honestly just want one of these guys that REALLY looks like a demon. Yeah, Mammon and Asmod are kinda demony looking, but I want something that I can put next to a balrog and a Gaismagorm and it not look super out of place.

I feel like Lucifer is more like a hands-off ruler at least for the seven years he was depressed.

Oh please, Lucifer is literally the King of Hell. He and Lilith created Hell even though it's one of the biggest mistakes in his life. Satan may be stronger and feared, but I have a feeling Lucifer is more powerful than Satan himself. But we'll see what happens.😅😏😬💦

Lucifer will literally destroy satan he is the king of bell for a reason and he will kill satan if he even tries to fight him

Is this a question anyone actually had? Lucifer is the king of hell. He's at the top of the official ranking chart, which measures both authority and actual power

In th hellaverse lucifer is th supreme ruler of all hell, while th other 6 sins each rule their own ring but all answer to lucifer. Unlike for other sins th inhabitants of th ring of wrath, especially imps, see satan as a god. Th representative for each of th sins are based on a circus act, meant to form a collective circus troupe ruled by lucifer: lucifer represents th ringleader due to being th ruler of th other sins n his ringleader-esque attire, beelzebub represents th animal tamer/animal shows, mammon represents th clown due to his attire n aesthetic as well as being his role in his debut ep, n asmodsus represents th fire performer. Satan most likely will represents th strong man. It has also been stated that th powers angels possess are distinct frm th powers that demons possess, w/ th former inherently holding dominion over th latter. This is why it's lucifer who commands over th other sins, cause even if fallen he still remains an angel n therefore his power is naturally superior to that of th others 6

Me: Waiting for the ultimate cross over

It's obvious that Lucifer is the most powerful of all Seven Deadly Sins. He's both the king of Hell and former Archangel. Also unlike Satan, he has divine powers, thanks to his heavenly origins. I think Satan is second strongest of the Sins.

I think Satan is technically in charge of the sins considering Lucifer doesn't really seem to do any ruling period. Lillith was in charge of the sinners, the goetia seem to be self governing, and the short king never leaves his duck palace. I'm sure he could override Satan's orders if he wanted to, but he's busy with important things to do it

Lucifer may have not lead that hard but at least he will develop how to lead more Character development after beating depression

I don't understand is it Lucifer literally The demon king and leader of his own demon armies in hell plus his demon queen wife alongside with him how is Satan literally the true king of hell I thought Lucifer was the true king of hell because everything mostly starts with Lucifer being the king

I think due to Lucifer being a (Fallen) Seraphim making him overall the most powerful entity in Hell he's granted King status by the demons (Might Makes Right), but due to his indifference to the goings on in Hell, not even caring about the Sinners within his own Ring (Until Charlie convinced him), it left the leadership and enforcement of Hell's laws to Satan who is the next strongest after the royal family.

Remembering the beginning of the Hazbin Hotel, the circle of pride was mainly ruled by Lilith. I really think she's best suited for the role as Queen of the Pride.

Do you think Lucifer and Satan are both related

Lucifer literally calls himself the big boss of hell himself if he's not the leader of the 7 sins than I don't know who is

Hope we see see Lucifer in that episode where there going to have a meeting

Luci isn’t good he allows a genocide to happen and mismanaged his empire allowing it to be as it is. He only appears good because we only see his interaction with friends/family

And we just got a pride day art of most characters in Helluva boss!

I'm sure the rest of the Sins are also fallen angels, since Lucifer is part of this septet and he has performed with them in the circus before. Considering that Vivienne made Lucifer, Satan and Azazel different characters (which was the case in religions initially), I would expect Samael (the main evil in Judaism) to also be a separate villain. Maybe he'll actually be Lucifer's chief assistant for demon affairs. Although, it should be done by Lilith, who breathed life into Hell. But for the last seven years that Lilith has been in Hell, and Lucifer has not been particularly involved in the affairs of Hell, Satan will definitely control the demons. It will be fun if in the future Satan wants to overthrow the melancholy Lucifer in order to rule Hell himself. But then he would also have to deal with Lilith, who would not just leave it like that, returning to Hell. Well, it is clear that Lucifer is the most powerful, because he is the king of Hell. Crimson's words could also be just teasing, because Asmodeus has something to blackmail him with (Fizz and authority). Perhaps, as in the Divine Comedy, the order of the rings in Vivienne shows the severity of the mortal sins, and therefore the power that their demons entail. Those. the rating will be like this: 1) Lucifer (pride). He is the king of hell and is at the very top of the hierarchy. 2) Satan (wrath). In fact, he is the same Devil and absolute evil (in religions). This may have inspired Vivienne to put his ring in second place, plus he is a god to demons (i.e. he created them). It's strange that he doesn't rule Hell. 3) Beelzebub (gluttony). In religions, Beelzebub was the second hand of Satan (Lucifer), which is confirmed by the close relationship between the Bee and Satan (they relate to each other as brother and sister). 4) Mammon (greed)* 5) Asmodeus (lust)* 6) Leviathan (envy). If he represents envy, then perhaps he is also jealous of the strength of his colleagues. 7) Belphegor (sloth). She can be the most harmless, because she is too lazy to even fight. * - it’s strange that Mammon is stronger than Asmodeus, because in myths there was a battle between them, in which Asmodeus won, cruelly torturing Mammon. Maybe Mammon's big money (called souls) was at play here, or Asmodeus is quite peaceful. I don't know...

Based on everything we know about Wrath, Satan wouldn't let Lucifer be called the King of Hell if Lucifer weren't stronger than him. However, I could see Satan following Lilith's orders more than Lucifer's.

He's only presented as a good guy because the show is about his daughter. Imagine if Helluva Boss's main character was Stolas's daughter, it would look a lot different. I guarantee lucifer has his bad side just like anyone else and we just don't really get the opportunity to see the non Charlie caring version of him. Heck even Sera has a evil side and it was just being hidden around Emily, until it accidently started to get shown in the courtroom with Charlie and the rest of the angels present bringing up Sera's sanctioned purges of souls. I don't think their is pure good and pure evil in this shows universe.

Can you do a video of how powerful the Morningstar family may be Lucifer/Lilith/Charlie.