Lugia DOMINATES Pokemon Crystal | Solo Challenge 

Everyone knows Bounce is the true flying move.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 source- whoever chose the move set for Gyarados

Used to love using aeroblast playing silver as a kid... raised my lugia to lvl 100 by hand which was an achievement in gen 2 against lvl 40s... had a really chad animation too. Top notch nostalgia

​@@GymLeaderMatt1987so dumb that bounce and fly are both flying type. I feel like maybe a normal type fly could be at least unique

​​@@GymLeaderMatt1987your overlay under enemy stats is messed up especially the last 3 values It's not a programming problem it's the text box on the overlay is clearly bugged on enemy stats Pay attention to the gym battles and ask yourself why does gengar have 66 spec def n magnemite 62 speed?? I am NOT trying to be a little Timmy or Karen but I thought this bug should be brought to your attention

Thanks! I've done an old Mew run and redid it on stream a while ago but I plan on tackling it again in gen 1 one day, but I'm not sure when. For Crystal, I'm just looking for the fastest run. I'm not too into the novelty of single run, record whatever footage you can get, and focus on pumping out content. I like the process of optimization and doing some repetition to plan things out. It's not always perfect but I think a tier list with some thought put into beats the brakes off of one and done strategies that are hit or miss. Sometimes you can miss the entire point of a Pokemon if you just do one run but I digress. I used to use that sort of naming convention and after a while switched to 'how fast' because only gullible little kids question if you can actually beat the game but I find it interesting to see people use it. I guess whatever works for that RU-vid dollar lol. This is just a side hobby so I avoid trends and what not and try to just have fun with it.

You got it!

On one hand, I'm happy Lugia isn't quad-weak to Electric. On the other hand... why isn't it Water type? It's a beast of the sea!

I read in a Japanese interview that they wanted it to be strong and psychic was strong. Water was the original but they didn’t think it was befitting for a legendary to be water/flying or whatever. I think there was a Did You Know gaming about Lugia specifically.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 would it be possible to do a run with Lugia as water/flying or would that be infeasible to code a typing change?

It's easily doable but I'm not sure what it would really acomplish. I find it best to just move on to the next thing. I rarely linger on what ifs or the same run too long. Gotta keep experiencing the next 'mon!

He killed a man in broad daylight!

He killed them in broad daylight.

What was he trying to cover up??? Maybe has something to do with his illegal Dragonites?????? Ask yourself this, how does known crime-boss Giovanni run a Gym when he's barely there? Why doesn't pallet town have a gym despite having the 2 best trainers and the best researcher in Kanto? How did Team Rocket hold Saffron City hostage when their poison/fighting types are weak to Sabrina??? The Pokemon League===Team Rocket. Open your eyes brother. Look what they did with TM28... Look at Lance's Aerodactyl with illegal rock slide... Look at the "volcano" that conveniently wiped out the experimental Pokècrime warfare lab... Look at the radio tower covering up the graves of countless Pokemon... Look at how easy the other Radio Tower was taken over... Look at how similar "Will" is to convicted criminal Lorelei... These people have no problems annhilating Rocket Grunts who know too much. It's wide open for all to see, unless you're in Rock Tunnel.

Trimming down the run made it feel iffy at some point but Earthquake saved it a good bit. That rival was brutal.

Yea Girafarig is interesting. A medium slow choice would be great and I got the Granbull redo as well.

Noice. What kind?

I think I could have made some more cuts. The comments are always helpful after the fact lol.

5 measly PP at the start lol. Gotta go with the struggle.

I think gen 5 is the worse at it. Everything just yells over designed and the fact the box art legendaries can combine for a fusion is just too much imo.

100% agree with this. I hope they go back to a "less is more" style of design in future games, and also having some that look intimidating rather than cute/appealing would be nice too

Yea. It's the guardian of the sea but Nintendo thought 'psychic = strong' back then and I don't blame them.

Thank the LORD that RU-vid translated your comment into English for me

He beamed em!

Perfect, lol.

Yea and I can use it on Snorlax maybe if reflect was up and it hadnt used amnesia yet.

Yea, I enjoy all the runs. I think the middle of the pack ones are my fav but I like them all!

I like it too. I finally automized it a little as I was doing it manually every time I was editing and I'm trying to get faster at it. The real trick to getting better is modeling the run off the world record speedrun, then just repetition. Playing the game a ton and learning different Pokemon help a lot.

Yea I really try to optimize as much as I can over the course of 3 runs usually just to keep things on schedule. I think it's an interesting approach because at least half the Pokemon would look pretty bad if you just did one attempt. I remember the Meganium run. The Rocket Takeover wasn't great!

Crushed the run with it!

Oh yea. And for Surge too!

You'll like the next video!

Yea it's pretty tasty!

You are right

Glad you enjoyed it!

Not the most original but it works!

Love the pun but Snorlax is synonymous with domination in gen 2. I think if it wasn't on Red's team, we'd see these runs be on average 10+ minutes faster lol. The problem with Snorlax like it was in gen 1 is that it goes second every turn in almost every battle and it just adds up over time.

Hopefully not too many! I’m going to rewatch the video sometime. Not completely refreshed lol.

500 times at the video length would take over 10 days to watch. The only thing you've confirmed is that you are awful at math lol.

​@@GymLeaderMatt1987 it was an exaggeration I can watch the video around 40-50 times today

There's an interesting Did You Know Gaming about Lugia's history. Basically, it's not water because they wanted it to be strong and psychic = strong back then but Lugia was created outside the confines of usual Pokemon and it's a good watch. Outside of that, I'm sure it'll be passed very soon but a solid showing no doubt.

Yea without Earthquake it was at least one guaranteed reset. I'm 99% sure Magneton will always go for Thunderwave and it all just adds up so much. It's crazy that it was easily the hardest part of the run by far lol.

The flaw is that Psychic isn't a guaranteed 3 hit. There's over a 30% chance that it's 4 turns but you might be right but it would be about the same, imo. Cutting out the Game Corner might be worth looking into if I ever revisit the run but tanking an extra Blizzard might be the tipping point of resetting.

Also Lugia was great but like its Lugia, surely no box legendary would be worse than some bear you find in a cave.

I bet it’ll be alright but I get the feeling we’ve just scratched the surface on speed. I think Feraligatr and Granbull can still take the top spots back on a redo. Jynx does look improved. I think I’ll start with Kang for Gen 1 Pokémon though, maybe next!

Appreciate that, brother.

Thanks! It was solid for sure but took a bit to get it right.

It was a good one. I think the Scizor redo could do it at level 58 lol.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 i wouldn’t be surprised, steel type means less damage taken for a start. plus Scizors incredible attack stat and movepool are prime for a low level run.

It’s low on the list for redos but hopefully I can stream some crystal in the future. School is a bit hectic but I’ll get the time eventually lol

ah school, now i feel old LMFAO!@@GymLeaderMatt1987

Oh I’m in my 30s but am finishing another degree lol. What I really mean is between being married, other usual adult things, and the weight of full time college, that I find the time when I find it lol.

Appreciate it, brother.

Did you sip it?

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 I did because if I don’t it starts to overflow because it turned to slush in my fridge.

The best kind! Happens around 50 minutes in the freezer.

Same as Seafoam. I learned my lesson by then and had a map.

You got that right!

I'm not at the point for GSC cross gen atm but Palkia will get another shot at Kanto in the future. I think the slow leveling group in general just feels kind of bad and I haven't looked but something like Spacial Rend is never learned at 1.

What's the original Crystal games? Even in Gold/Silver their learnsets are the same and unchanged to the third version. The fun fact is that gen 2 is the only generation they start with those moves.

​@@GymLeaderMatt1987 I mean when you find them at Level 60. Both legendaries don't have their signature moves😂

Glad you enjoyed!

Hell yea, brother.

I think you being the only person to mention it in like a year cements my decision lol.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 😂

It's good!

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 indeed it is. I started my first Python class and I was wondering what language and resources are you using to create your overlay? I want to make on also and I just don’t know where to start. Is there a video that explains it to a degree?

It's vue/html/css for it all. I just kind of picked it up looking through the Parasect race stuff years ago but here's a severely outdated Scott video talking about basics. Personally I use a lot of computing and methods to make stats accurate and they just inflate more as you go up in generations but displaying a value from Gamehook is covered here. vimeo.com/716111075 Remember, this is severely outdated. Outside of the concept and mapper.properties. being how you'd use data in properties, Gamehook is dramatically different in terms of what things are called and how it works. I guess you'd have to copy code from the video to even start but this is a relic of the past and just something I had bookmarked but everything else is just gone. He just packages his overlays into one thing. If you are really desperate, here's a 'race package' from Speedrunner 0218's community race he did last year. A disclaimer is that I have no idea what his code looks like, how complicated it is, or anything of that nature but I think you could just pick apart the index skeleton at bare minimum. Reverse engineering and some lengthy and frustrating ChatGPT conversations took me really far! drive.google.com/file/d/1_dSv5cws8yeECli6s5bpNeBxZLe8PxPL/view

I thought about it while you can learn the stuff from there, I’ll make an unlisted video in the near future going over a base overlay. Expect it to start being in the description in maybe 2-3 weeks and I’ll make a community post about it.

Glad you liked it, brother.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 I usually watch larger channels like chaotic meatball or jrose but lately I've been getting into smaller channels and I've rather enjoyed how much people put into their videos

The difference between passion and a hobby and 'this has been my job for years' lol.

We'll keep up the amazing work. It was actually poketubers that got me back playing the games. Currently doing a run through of emerald. I forgot how much I hated wattson and rival 2 north of slateport.

Wattson is the true wall in Gen 3. I hope to have optimized Emerald runs by the end of the…year maybe lol. Some difficulties with the encoded rom.

Yea the funny thing is that I made a mistake in routing and it could probably save at least a minute or two on the Red fight alone.

He toss that boulder far!

I'm not sure it's faster than Ho-oh but we'll have to see on the redo but I haven't made it there yet. If Lugia is faster, it's because flying gym giving a boost to Aeroblast in the first minutes of the run and things of that nature but I'm not so sure.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Oh, I meant in terms of base speed 😝 Lugia is 110, and Ho-oh is 90.

For speed after Gen 1 it’s just like ‘is it higher than 65-70? Yes? Then it’ll outspeed everything eventually’. Lol. In a solo challenge the difference between like 80 speed and 200 speed is negligible so maybe the allotted stats to other areas will help out!

Being swift is the last thing you need with your problems lol.

That's high praise! Love when someone notices the good planning and experience lol. For T-tar, I'm sure Surf would be the answer but it's hard to say if you'd need more levels but I'm not against using candies when I need to. Magneton was a nightmare without Earthquake though. It made at least 1 reset happen on every test run. I think Youngster Joey has a third team if you keep rematching him that's pretty good! If you never watched the Pokemon Crystal AI tournament, I highly recommend it. It's one of the best Pokemon videos I've ever watched! As for Meganium, you can only go so hard on it lol. Grass is just in a bad spot in Johto and there's not much you can do but even a bad run is fun to watch! Just do your thing! I think the Lugia art comes from a Vivid Voltage set. I was disappointed with the lack of good Lugia poses when I was picking something to draw. Octillery is interesting but it's down in stock in my eyes because of Pokemon Go. I do the PvP battles and once upon a time Octillery got an update and I was thinking it was going to be great but it lost me a lot of points lol. I'll look into it! My current line of thinking is Kangaskhan.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 For T-tar surf could have worked even though,it would take time backtrack to the move deleter and use a other move,so maybe earthquake is the answer for it too.🤔 Only testing can tell if it is a great approach or not. But Magenton is just annoying, because it can make an opening for the Hunter or for the Golbat to make sure you won't attack. I have watched the AI tournament video a while back so I don't remember that much. Maybe it's a great time to rewatch it. Lugia looks great,your drawing looks like an original art😁. That's some awesome job done. I'm warping up Meganium runs today no matter what, because I want to do a run with Sausage right after that. Octillrey is not the best Pokemon but,it is an interesting one , especially with gen 5 giving it the moody ability. Even though sniper is really a good alternative as well. But in gen 2 it an okay water type. Kangskhan is going to dominate gen 2, even though I think that Miltank and Tauros can take it's crown.

Surf is just so important for steel types. You can't really handle them at all without it and EQ is so late in the game to the point where EQ has situational use but it was interesting to see how it all fits together. Yea, Meganium is old news. Get it out and focus on the true prize in life. The sausage. As for Kang. I think it's buff from the special split will push it to the next level but Tauros and it's slow leveling group will hold it back. There's a reason I've been holding off on Tauros for so long. I'm just worried it'll fall really short of where I'd like it to be due to the bad leveling group and really rough start.

@@GymLeaderMatt1987I forgot that Tauros is in the slow level up group. In that case a lot of normal types have the potential to beat it,like Kang. Kangskhan is very straightforward and super intuitive to play with. The problematic aspect of the slow level up group is to deduct some kind of a route that will fit most of them ,that would balance experience and time.😁 Earthquake can help some Pokemon,but in Johto it's barely good for Will and Koga. Sausage can make good use of it , because it's his best move. I'm having a lucky run with Meganium thus far, because of some careful planning,if this one would work I'm done with that, because Sausage is the real deal. Sausage is going to be interesting because I already thought about how to route it out 😁, maybe finally sludge bomb will be useful.

Nice. Is it going to be crystal or legacy? I think one of the best changes in legacy was they renamed it to sausage bomb.

Nice. What kind? Chicken?

Ahaha nah just a coke​@GymLeaderMatt1987

Earthquake makes it go splat.

I think the shortened versions confused you. Spe is speed. Spa/sod is special attack/defense.

Already done that in October lol.

Fire types are GREAT in general 2.

I always try to add it in! Hits that good nostalgia.

Probably not on a complete tier list.

Why would I do an optional, out of the way fight in a run whose goal is to beat the game in the fastest time?

Fair … I just thought that battle might of counted as completing the game

It doesn't. You'll never see it on anyone else's Crystal streams or any speedrun of the game lol. The rival is insignificant 99% of the time in gen 2.

In an interview I saw on Did You Know Gaming, Lugia was supposed to be Water originally but was changed to Psychic because Psychic = strong. Lugia in general is an interesting Pokemon. It was designed by one guy outside of the normal confines of other Pokemon.

That’s up to you and god.

Never heard of that but yea, Deep South, Bible Belt lol.

Sad that no one did, haha but people rarely interact with other comments.

Yea! Mario was Zubat.

Loog-I-Oh