Luka Dončić vs. Larry Bird: Is Mavs star a better player than the Celtics legend? | NBA | UNDISPUTED 

Yall sleep paul pierce was that dude😳😳😳😳 He was really dope at kansas😳😳😳

@@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp dont say "Yall" lol dunk contest winner that age too...gen z is sleep tho..which is wild bc when we were young we checked out all the old heads and gave reverence. But theses jokers nowadays have WAY more access but they're the dont give a got damn generation lol..plus they simps for women now lol but 100

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stop comparing luka to bird when you knw jokic is the modern larry bird, lukas game is nothing like bird! and skip saying luka has "no rhythm" is probably one of the dumbest things said in the history of sports media

LUKA WILL BECOME A LEGEND! AND LUKE IS SMARTER THAN EVERYBODY EXCEPT JOKIC!

Oh for sure. Right now, it's Jordan > Bird > Luka > Ant

I hate to say it but Luka may even be better than Bird, not career wise but in talent, Bird couldn't do what Luka is doing

@@JohnnytNatural I think Bird is far more talented naturally. I don't know how old you are but I've been a basketball fan since the mid 70s. Watch some of Bird's passing highlights on RU-vid. His basketball sense is uncanny. I don't know how many 3 point contests he won but I've heard witnesses says they've seen him hit 50 or 60 in a row in practice - in an era when 3 point shooting wasn't a thing yet.

84-85 Jordan. Ahhhhhh 😩

@@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724dang to watch basketball at its apex is 🔥.

Neither one should be compared to all time greats until they win something

​@@spenser6353agreed... But seems that keyshawn hates that Luka is white. Does whatever he can to give him no credit.

Why are you so quick to see race and ppl being racist? Its an insecurity you have that screams of projection of your own racist shadow. Keyshawn does not come across as a racist dude at all. Dude barley if ever even talks about politics. Cmon dude. Stop it. ​@@jeffreybradford9838

@@jeffreybradford9838 that makes no sense bro u can see Ant is trying to be MJ but Bird and Luka are totally different players

@@joechucks1555 not talking about only this discussion. Go look at Key's takes on any discussion about Luka.

He was acting out a script on ESPN. They need clowns to make triggering statements for views

Yeah, I wasn't a fan before, but he's growing on me.

He is the only positive about this show now

"PooGame" Pierce is out of his damn mind!

Bigg facks. I watch when Paul is on here.. hilarious 😂 😃 team Paul..dude be having me rolling 🤣

Well said.

No. It's fun to make comparisons. Joe Louis vs Ali vs Tyson. Hogan vs Nicklaus vs Tiger. Ruth vs Aaron vs Ohtani. Wilt vs Jordan vs Lebron. These make for great barbershop discussions.

They be so bored.

They don’t know how to talk or make high level basketball content so they have no choice but to debate stupid topics

@@Bornclutch62 Correct. They can't discuss play calling, game plans, defensive sets, or anything of the sort. So to fill the hour they have to bait us all to their content by making baseless comparisons.

I wonder if race has anything to do with why they are being compared too tho 😅

Facts ‼️ I saw bird playing the game. His father had him shooting shots over the barn ‼️💯💪🤷

@@sixside7743 i was relatively young when i saw Bird play as well... and it's not even close

And Luka is as well

Larry started out as a Legend. Him and Magic.

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exactly --- Bird was either the best or 2nd best player during his time, versus now/Pooka's era where he's barely one of a good handful... it's a silly comparison

⁠@@thebestever160everyone considers Luka top 3 at the worst, commonly top 2. Why use that argument of all arguments you could have possibly used.

Bird got 67% of all 1st place MVP votes during the 80s

Luka literally got robbed of mvp THIS YEAR 😂😂

Damn I just looked it up. I don't remember him winning it

@@antiguabossy I remember it. Sometimes guys who aren't the favorites to win a contest, tend to be forgotten about. I wonder how many fans remember Desmond Mason winning the slam dunk contest? He is basically an NBA nobody, but he won it one year. Honestly though, I would have to look up when. I don't remember. I know it's been at least 15 years.

@@Amick44 Desmond Mason played for the Bucks when he won the Dunk Contest, right?

@@antiguabossy I thought it was the sonics but I'm not 100% positive.

@@Amick44 yep you're right

when he plays defense, It tends to break down because others have to dip in out of position to help.

He’s still an overrated defender. He plays defense sometimes

@@spenser6353 What?! He’s not overrated as a defender. He’s underrated. All anyone says about his defense is that he sucks, and that narrative sunk in so much that anytime he gets praise for playing genuinely good defense it seems over the top.

@@spenser6353you can’t be overrated if people think you don’t play defense

He literally finished this year over the 80th percentile of defense lol that’s not a shut down defender but pretty good

So true

Gervin did, too. He didn't outrun anyone very often. He shuffled here and there and usually got off a good shot.

I don’t know why people don’t give Paul his props. Luka’s game looks like a mix of Lebron and PP.

@@Udon_Noodle largely cause Boston was mediocre (or worse) for years til Ray and KG arrived.

@@Amick44 has literally nothing to do with the way his game looks

Nah lebron won his first championship at age 28

Jordan and Bird played under the same rules. LeBron played with the defensive 3 second violation, defensive hand checking foul, the flagrant etc... How do you compare an apple to an orange besides the fact that they are both sweet?

The point is not how they won or if they did at all, is the fact that Key never used how much time they took to do it as a factor to diminish their successes, the way he does with Luka

@@duskry6426 Agreed 💯. Keyshawn always seems to be in lala land anyway next to Paul anyway.

he doesn't have to be biased at all --- Pooka first 6 years isn't even close to Bird's

EXACTLY 😂

He is da WORST!!

He had a great zinger at the very end, though!😂

Isn't what they all do? Now you're hating

@@shonda79able I don’t care about the hate, every analyst hates. It’s about being paid to say something and then when you do, it carries less weight than pocket change. It teaches the rest of us to run off at the head with reckless abandon. And then shortly after the fall of western society 😁

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casuals are going to casual

If you think Luka doesn't elevate and make the Mavs better you don't watch the Mavericks play when Luka came into the league his rookie year that's all everyone talked about was Luka and everyone was in awe of him at only 19 years old if the Mavericks don't break that team up for Porzingis they easily make the playoffs and possibly get to the finals then the next 3 years they make the playoffs if Porzingis isn't injured all the time and on his lil tantrum they beat the Clippers both times and who knows not to mention the WCF the 3rd time then they get Kyrie if Luka and Kyrie would of gelled together quicker that's another playoff run but that team was goin downhill fast that's why they tanked so 4 out of 6 years in the playoffs ain't bad when it could of easily been 6 out of 6 Luka can't do it all himself and now he finally has help like bird and all the other greats did so to say he doesn't elevate other players yes he does the difference is they're not great players most of them aren't even good players but now he has that good and great players around him that's why I can't wait for Luka to win it all this year so he can get the respect he deserves this man is a generational player there will never be another player like him he is a game changer and if you don't think Luka is the best player in the league right now that's just what I mean disrespectful not Ant not Shai ain't none of them touchin Luka Doncic when it comes to playing Basketball that boy cold

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They thru away the 79 season on purpose so they could get Bird. Bird did not make them a 60 win team. They also added Parish and McHale. The fact is the only reason they had a bad record was because they wanted to be in the top three for draft choice Not because Bird made them so much better. Unfortunately this lie continues to surface.

Bird's defense is one thing that doesn't get brought up when he's talked about, but you spoke facts!

at luka's age, bird was a sophomore in the NBA

Bird was a way better Athlete than Luka. He was also more. Athletic than the Truth. People say Bird was slow but you have to be an athlete to be on an all defensive team.

​@@saiwaqa2573and won a Championship

@@GuyoftheStars on a stacked team

lol… Magic lol…

Not even close 😂

Harden

​@makhabzaranamane6869 the only right answer Luka is literally a harden who is a little more clutch and more passing oriented compared to harden who was more scoring oriented

Magic wasn’t looking to score as much

What greatness??? What does Luka do that’s blows the fans away???

@@Ljay968first team all nba every year of his career to start

Bro they act like he is 32. And then when corrected on his age they say "well he has played professional since he was 16"... I mean wtf are we doing here the kid is barely 25!

@@Ljay968 damn near average a triple double?? So many nobodies have career years with Luka?? Breaking all time records left and right??

Greatness is associated with champions. Stop the glazing, it's beneath you.

There’s literally videos showing how eerily similar they are. He’s Larry 2.0.

Facts 💯

@@Joeshiesty286then the results should be similar especially in a weaker generation where offense is favored. Until he wins some chips and mvps, you can’t talk

Yeah and Kobe coulda averaged 50

The Celtics don’t win any championship without Parish. Birds first championship was because of MVP Cedric Maxwell in the Finals not Bird who choked in that series. The Celtics only won 30 games before Bird, Mchale and Parish got their was because Auerbach purposely threw away the season so he could get Bird at the 6th draft choice. To sum it up Bird did not miraculously turn the Celtics around they were not a 30 win team to begin and would not have won 60 without the other allstars including Nate Archibald.

@@robertfarrar9564 The level of ignorance on your part is supreme, and your facts are false. Did you do it on purpose? The Celtics won 29 games the year before Bird was introduced, second worst in the league. Then in 79-80 Bird joins the team without Parish, McHale, Dennis Johnson, Ainge or anyone else you want to think of, just him. And what happens? They win a league best 61 games. As for the first chip, Bird didn't choke. Yeah he was gassed in his scoring because of the unbelievable job he did on beating the 76ers down from 3-1. But he still averaged more assists and rebounds than anyone in the series, and wasn't stat hunting. In the game where he made only 8 points, he had 13 rebounds and 10 assists. He only took 11 shots. If he was stat hunting, he would've made at least one more basket and gets a triple-double, and that alone would've gotten him the mvp. In the other game where he scored low, he had 12 rebounds and 7 assists. He was making plays for everyone and playing defense without inflating his scoring numbers. If he wanted to do that, he would've done it. Bird wanted to win, he wasn't interested in looking good. His assists and rebounds were influential, not a choke job. Parish didn't average as many points as Bird. McHale only averaged 4.7 points, so he wasn't much help. Without Parish do they win? No. Without Bird, Parish never becomes a hall of famer, and they don't win any chips. Saying Archibald threw away the season is asinine (look up the definition of asinine). One player can throw away the season for the team? What about the other players? The coach doesn't care? Just one player makes the decision. What about the season before that, where they only won 32 games? Did Archibald throw away two seasons in a row? Bird was drafted in 78, a whole full year before he left college. So why why Archibald throw away a year away for the whole team when they already drafted Bird? Whoever you are, your opinions are equal to lies, and nobody here on this comments section will share your takes, which means, your takes are unpopular because they are wrong

@@leebrandt8597 you Idiot they got rid of 12 players and added 12 new players. They purposely tanked it so they could move up in the draft. Are you really that dumb to believe 1 player did all that when they added 10 new players? Bird was not even MVP in finals his 2nd year? You been fed a fantasy fan boy. I am not saying Bird was not the best player on his team but they added 10 or more players from that 30 win team. How can you turn a 30 win team around if that 30 win team is no longer in existence???? Are you that slow and delusional???

It’s a give and a take man

lol you are Delusional. Bird quick first step 😅😅😅😅😅

@@robertfarrar9564 watch some highlight packages.

You guys hate on Keyshawn even when he’s right. Luka should not be compared to bird. Don’t watch the show it’s that simple

Thank you!!!!!!

these clowns knw it too but they want to make people think luka is unathletic

Hahaha or they are individuals and none of them play alike.

They literally play nothing alike

@@OAT86no dirk is dirk and bird is bird. Y’all just love the skin comparing

I thought he was bullshitting 😂😂

Lying

Yeah.. like super disrespectful! 😮

What's portability?

his portability was elite indeed

That’s a fact. What nobody mentions is the Celtics were not a 30 win team before Bird got there. They purposely threw away the season to get Bird in draft, that was the genius of Auerbach. They became a 60 win team because they now had Bird, McHale and Parish. But the media continues with the lie that Bird was so great he made them a 60 win team but the facts are they were not that bad previously.

Bro Luka has played with more all stars than that

@spiritualatom2535 Bird joined a fully fledged legitimate team that had multiple Hall of Famers, good mix of offensive and defensive players. Lukas teams are absolute trash without him and it shows every time he gets injured. There is zero comparison to the Celtics who were absolutely stacked just like the 80s Lakers.

@@samuelmorse784 no offense but you should research all the players Luka has played with. A lot more all stars and hall of famers than you would think

@@spiritualatom2535 Porzingis clashed with Luka and Brunson was half as good as he is now. Luka's teams are dismal without him this is an incontrovertible fact. They drop off a Cliff when Luka does not play. You're not only denying present reality but the greatness of Bird's teammates.

I have never listened to any of his takes and thought he was making a good point. He sounds like a whiny guy with horrible points

It’s a debate show. Y’all stay hating on Keyshawn. He’s giving his opinion and based on that logic I can show you where Paul and skip do the same thing to other players. The show isn’t for you if his opinion always ends up personal

lol no

stop

, Dirk Nowitzki*

Telling us you don't watch ball without telling us you don't watch ball

Y’all love skin comparing

Your argument is flawed.. By having Curry and Simmons in the same category.. Gen Z

Nice rubbish analogy lmao Simmons is a complete non factor on the most important facet of the game aka SCORING/OFFENSE. Larry was always a major threat offensive threat and was one of the best shooters of all time, but nice try.

Playmaking includes scoring... where tf is simmons scoring

@@Ljay968 I genuinely don't know how can you get the point and miss it at the same time. YES, it's a flawed argument, idiot, same as Pierce's.

@@Ljay968 ...yes. That's the point. That it's flawed. I genuinely don't understand how can you get it and miss it at the same time.

Larry Bird made others get All stars n 6th mans (cause of the attention he get) Luka has produced nothing but empty stats (who gets better playing w/Luka?? )🎯

Luka’s a great passer

@@marckusduverger9776 sure is but Larry is different his passing on another level

Luka is better scorer.

@@holycow7195 uh no he's not

@@holycow7195 when luka has 3mvps and 2 final mvps holla at me till then Bird is Bird and Luka is Luka...Let the real legend live

keyshawn just racist. He dont like luka. He doesn't even like steph curry because he a light skin

Just say you disagree with him instead of always assuming how he feels

This is just silly argument. The entire league is younger now, the idea you should get brownie points because you came in younger is just silly.

Bro it’s an opinion show. Admit that you don’t agree with everyone and then you will see how you are bias too

Averaging a triple double isnt impressive as it was in 2017

Yeah the resume way better it’s not even close

Bird is just better. MJ was 0-6 against Bird in the playoffs.

Nah the world give credit for avg to them people…

​@@Nobody-pg3qq "them people"?

​@@Rocco1123 he's being racist and like a true racist he's a coward

​@@Rocco1123 he's being r@c!$t and like a true r@c!$t he's a coward

Big time Luka hater, it’s crazy

I can see that

🎵🎤🎼👀👀👀why you always lying 🎤🎵🎼🎵🎤

AntMan is about to show Bricka who the face of the NBA is

@@awesomecoolguy6515 6/24 Game 7 then brags about it

That’s jokic. Stop being a casual.

Same but melo was my number 1 and luka 2

@@edstarlocc I’m from UK just love Melo cuz of all them series wid him and his family over the years growing up seeing him develop

@@alfieb6711so you like him for his acting 😂

@@spenser6353 i like ur mum for acting as well, although some of her movies aren’t exactly PG rated😉

@@alfieb6711 yeah oprahside got me watching lamelo ball and the family from early, its just like how Catlin clark got me and the whole world watching wnba

What??? Stick to baseball

Obvious attempt by some exec somewhere to generate simpleton narratives, when the real narrative (future of the league) is way more interesting.

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I think he was talking more about style rather than level of play

@@alecbigler3987 I get that but Luka is more important to his team than Paul pierce ever was. Pierce is definitely a hall of fame talent but he had Kg,Ray Allen, and Rondo you can even throw in Avery Bradley at the time. Luka has to Score,Play-make,Rebound, and play smart defense at a high level to win. Pierce only had to score that’s all I’m saying.

Bro y’all need to stop. Luka is not better than Paul . I’ve seen both of them play in person

Bro y’all need to stop. Luka is not better than Paul . I’ve seen both of them play in person

@@spiritualatom2535 You’re telling me Luka doesn’t have a huge impact on his team winning games? Luka casually drops 30 point triple doubles and you still think Pierce is better?

No..

exactly --- and it's not even close

@@thebestever160 what are people even comparing him for, luka overrated

@@jesusm2159no Luka is good, he just needs the hardware now.

@Fitkid7672 nope even with rings he is being way overhyped

No roster changes? Let’s not lie now

NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.

NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.

NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.

NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.

Luka is a combination of Larry Bird and Magic. Just do a lil research and you’ll know yourself too.

@@Joeshiesty286 Bird is a combination of Luka and Jokic but superior defender to either and shoots like KD

Luka will give bird 30

@@jeremy95izeSure, on 40% with 6 turnovers and a L

@@tylersouthcott3359 cap, they both shoot 50% for their careers. Luka is the primary ball handler and bird played mostly with his back to the basket. Luka would cook bird but he’s definitely giving up 25 points to bird.

What’s funny

Jokic is a better passer than Luka and Bird is better than Jokic. .

@@bboywolfbird a better passer than jokic?!?!!!!

@@jecotto03 yes, he's a better outlet passer, better off ball passer, better passer out the post, better passer off a shot fake, better in transition... stop it

@@jecotto03 yes --- and Bird played in an era where more defense was allowed & the physicality of the game was at least 2-3 levels higher --- and that's just one aspect of the game (out of many) that Bird was better than both Pooka & Bad Breath Joke

They don’t watch

Larry is a better passer

No it’s not.

Did you watch Larry????

Larry is a better passer, shooter and rebounder

Absolutely not. Prime Larry is the best all around player ever. 28/10/7 on 50/40/90 on an era people actually played D.

Nah bruh u smokin

Yeah, the media is always doing this.

@marckusduverger9776 the man is playing to get to the finals and this show worries about is he better than Larry Bird